Boris Island airport plan is panned

Southend Standard: Boris Island airport plan is panned Boris Island airport plan is panned

MORE doubt has been cast on the prospect of the so-called “Boris Island” Thames Estuary airport plan going ahead.

Four official reports have poured cold water on plans for a four-runway airport opposite Southend on the Isle of Grain, favoured by London mayor Boris Johnson.

One of the three reports prepared for the Airports Commission, which is considering how to expand airport capacity in south east England, said: “The challenges are considerable and amount to a significant cost and risk to the taxpayer.”

Another said Heathrow's owners would have to be paid compensation of between £13.5 billion and £21.5 billion as the UK’s airport would have to close.

A third cited possible transport improvement costs associated with the new airport of between £10.1 billion and £17.2 billion.

Southend Council leader Ron Woodley said: “Everyone realises there are substantial obstacles to the scheme.

“We are opposed to the estuary airport because we don’t see any benefit to the town.”

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7:14am Thu 17 Jul 14

The King of Southend says...

Let's hope this is now dead in the water and Heathrow is expanded.
Let's hope this is now dead in the water and Heathrow is expanded. The King of Southend
  • Score: 14

7:16am Thu 17 Jul 14

rodgdodge says...

Would be underwater within 100 years, because of climate change anyway
Would be underwater within 100 years, because of climate change anyway rodgdodge
  • Score: 7

7:38am Thu 17 Jul 14

Speedysnail says...

Never did understand why that buffon wanted to build it there anyway. He is mayor of London, not Kent and Essex
Never did understand why that buffon wanted to build it there anyway. He is mayor of London, not Kent and Essex Speedysnail
  • Score: 16

8:17am Thu 17 Jul 14

Kim Gandy says...

Speedysnail wrote:
Never did understand why that buffon wanted to build it there anyway. He is mayor of London, not Kent and Essex
I always say, of folk who put these sorts of proposals forward, be it airport expansion, new airport, major building project, traveller site.... you want it, you have it on your own doorstep. Simples!
[quote][p][bold]Speedysnail[/bold] wrote: Never did understand why that buffon wanted to build it there anyway. He is mayor of London, not Kent and Essex[/p][/quote]I always say, of folk who put these sorts of proposals forward, be it airport expansion, new airport, major building project, traveller site.... you want it, you have it on your own doorstep. Simples! Kim Gandy
  • Score: 14

9:47am Thu 17 Jul 14

JimmyShoe says...

Why don't they just bridge the railway from the new Southend Airport link across Sutton Shopland and also extend the C2C line onto Foulness and just build the airport on Maplin Sands.

This would theoretically be cheaper as the site plans were green lighted in the late 70's but also included building a massive container port which has since recently been built.

I live in Shoeburyness and would welcome this engineering project, the jobs it would create would be phenomenal.

The Isle of Grain is the wrong place full stop.
Why don't they just bridge the railway from the new Southend Airport link across Sutton Shopland and also extend the C2C line onto Foulness and just build the airport on Maplin Sands. This would theoretically be cheaper as the site plans were green lighted in the late 70's but also included building a massive container port which has since recently been built. I live in Shoeburyness and would welcome this engineering project, the jobs it would create would be phenomenal. The Isle of Grain is the wrong place full stop. JimmyShoe
  • Score: -7

9:49am Thu 17 Jul 14

alarminstaller says...

When you understand the world of politics then you understand .
When you understand the world of politics then you understand . alarminstaller
  • Score: 2

9:50am Thu 17 Jul 14

JimmyShoe says...

Why don't they just fork the Southend Victoria rail link across Sutton Shopland and also extend the C2C line onto Foulness and just build the airport on Maplin Sands.

This would theoretically be cheaper as the site plans were green lighted in the late 70's but also included building a massive container port which has since recently been built further up the Thames.

I live in Shoeburyness and would welcome this engineering project, the jobs it would create would be phenomenal.
Why don't they just fork the Southend Victoria rail link across Sutton Shopland and also extend the C2C line onto Foulness and just build the airport on Maplin Sands. This would theoretically be cheaper as the site plans were green lighted in the late 70's but also included building a massive container port which has since recently been built further up the Thames. I live in Shoeburyness and would welcome this engineering project, the jobs it would create would be phenomenal. JimmyShoe
  • Score: 1

10:52am Thu 17 Jul 14

Nebs says...

JimmyShoe wrote:
Why don't they just fork the Southend Victoria rail link across Sutton Shopland and also extend the C2C line onto Foulness and just build the airport on Maplin Sands.

This would theoretically be cheaper as the site plans were green lighted in the late 70's but also included building a massive container port which has since recently been built further up the Thames.

I live in Shoeburyness and would welcome this engineering project, the jobs it would create would be phenomenal.
Great idea. Also, if the runways were parallel to the one at Southend Airport then there would be no need for that to close.
[quote][p][bold]JimmyShoe[/bold] wrote: Why don't they just fork the Southend Victoria rail link across Sutton Shopland and also extend the C2C line onto Foulness and just build the airport on Maplin Sands. This would theoretically be cheaper as the site plans were green lighted in the late 70's but also included building a massive container port which has since recently been built further up the Thames. I live in Shoeburyness and would welcome this engineering project, the jobs it would create would be phenomenal.[/p][/quote]Great idea. Also, if the runways were parallel to the one at Southend Airport then there would be no need for that to close. Nebs
  • Score: 6

11:27am Thu 17 Jul 14

VeteranOfMany says...

rodgdodge wrote:
Would be underwater within 100 years, because of climate change anyway
Within a hundred years, we wont be using conventional jet propelled aeroplanes
[quote][p][bold]rodgdodge[/bold] wrote: Would be underwater within 100 years, because of climate change anyway[/p][/quote]Within a hundred years, we wont be using conventional jet propelled aeroplanes VeteranOfMany
  • Score: 2

11:36am Thu 17 Jul 14

JimmyShoe says...

Nebs wrote:
JimmyShoe wrote:
Why don't they just fork the Southend Victoria rail link across Sutton Shopland and also extend the C2C line onto Foulness and just build the airport on Maplin Sands.

This would theoretically be cheaper as the site plans were green lighted in the late 70's but also included building a massive container port which has since recently been built further up the Thames.

I live in Shoeburyness and would welcome this engineering project, the jobs it would create would be phenomenal.
Great idea. Also, if the runways were parallel to the one at Southend Airport then there would be no need for that to close.
Exactly and the forked track would double as an instant shuttle service from Maplin International to European flights at Southend - Come on Boris sort it out and table this instead and re-open the plans from the 70's!
[quote][p][bold]Nebs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JimmyShoe[/bold] wrote: Why don't they just fork the Southend Victoria rail link across Sutton Shopland and also extend the C2C line onto Foulness and just build the airport on Maplin Sands. This would theoretically be cheaper as the site plans were green lighted in the late 70's but also included building a massive container port which has since recently been built further up the Thames. I live in Shoeburyness and would welcome this engineering project, the jobs it would create would be phenomenal.[/p][/quote]Great idea. Also, if the runways were parallel to the one at Southend Airport then there would be no need for that to close.[/p][/quote]Exactly and the forked track would double as an instant shuttle service from Maplin International to European flights at Southend - Come on Boris sort it out and table this instead and re-open the plans from the 70's! JimmyShoe
  • Score: 6

12:37pm Thu 17 Jul 14

jayman says...

I was once asked what I thought of democracy and free markets in this country. I responded with, "I think they are both good ideas and we should start as soon as possible".
I was once asked what I thought of democracy and free markets in this country. I responded with, "I think they are both good ideas and we should start as soon as possible". jayman
  • Score: -6

12:38pm Thu 17 Jul 14

emcee says...

Trouble with this country, we no longer have the bottle to invest financially or have the inclination to catch up with the rest of the world, let alone be at the forefront of progress..
The reason why the "developing" world is just that is because they are not afraid to spend money or worry about who likes it or doesn't like it. What these countries do is speculate and invest, regardless of cost, creating long term prosperity, and thse countries are growing prosperous at an alarming rate.
This country of ours became great and prosperous through hard work, investment and by being inovative. However, when you are at the top of your game you have to invest vast amounts, both financially and socially, to stay there. This country has become afraid to do so and, I am afraid, it is this generation's great grandchildren who will suffer.
Trouble with this country, we no longer have the bottle to invest financially or have the inclination to catch up with the rest of the world, let alone be at the forefront of progress.. The reason why the "developing" world is just that is because they are not afraid to spend money or worry about who likes it or doesn't like it. What these countries do is speculate and invest, regardless of cost, creating long term prosperity, and thse countries are growing prosperous at an alarming rate. This country of ours became great and prosperous through hard work, investment and by being inovative. However, when you are at the top of your game you have to invest vast amounts, both financially and socially, to stay there. This country has become afraid to do so and, I am afraid, it is this generation's great grandchildren who will suffer. emcee
  • Score: 6

12:40pm Thu 17 Jul 14

News Bunny says...

That same dodgy photo/image being used again I see.

The one that makes it look five times bigger than Canvey.

To be that size would make it ten times bigger than Heathrow.
That same dodgy photo/image being used again I see. The one that makes it look five times bigger than Canvey. To be that size would make it ten times bigger than Heathrow. News Bunny
  • Score: 6

12:49pm Thu 17 Jul 14

emcee says...

Quote Council Leader, Ron Woodley: “We are opposed to the estuary airport because we don’t see any benefit to the town.”
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This remark stinks of acute ignorance.
This airport, regardless of where they put it, or any expansion to an existing one, has nothing to do with Southend. It is a national issue, not a local one. Why should it benefit a single town?
It is this sort of attitude from councils (councillors) up and down the country that causes progress and investment to fail, to the detriment of the whole country. Why should progress be haulted just because it does "suit" a handfull of citizens?
Quote Council Leader, Ron Woodley: “We are opposed to the estuary airport because we don’t see any benefit to the town.” - This remark stinks of acute ignorance. This airport, regardless of where they put it, or any expansion to an existing one, has nothing to do with Southend. It is a national issue, not a local one. Why should it benefit a single town? It is this sort of attitude from councils (councillors) up and down the country that causes progress and investment to fail, to the detriment of the whole country. Why should progress be haulted just because it does "suit" a handfull of citizens? emcee
  • Score: 3

4:10pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Nebs says...

emcee wrote:
Quote Council Leader, Ron Woodley: “We are opposed to the estuary airport because we don’t see any benefit to the town.”
-
This remark stinks of acute ignorance.
This airport, regardless of where they put it, or any expansion to an existing one, has nothing to do with Southend. It is a national issue, not a local one. Why should it benefit a single town?
It is this sort of attitude from councils (councillors) up and down the country that causes progress and investment to fail, to the detriment of the whole country. Why should progress be haulted just because it does "suit" a handfull of citizens?
If the bridge or tunnel went from Canvey or Shoebury then there would be a great benefit to the town.
[quote][p][bold]emcee[/bold] wrote: Quote Council Leader, Ron Woodley: “We are opposed to the estuary airport because we don’t see any benefit to the town.” - This remark stinks of acute ignorance. This airport, regardless of where they put it, or any expansion to an existing one, has nothing to do with Southend. It is a national issue, not a local one. Why should it benefit a single town? It is this sort of attitude from councils (councillors) up and down the country that causes progress and investment to fail, to the detriment of the whole country. Why should progress be haulted just because it does "suit" a handfull of citizens?[/p][/quote]If the bridge or tunnel went from Canvey or Shoebury then there would be a great benefit to the town. Nebs
  • Score: 4

8:07pm Thu 17 Jul 14

RichardAC says...

was never going to happen. It would leave west london and the Thames corridor without an airport as Heathrow would close. Massive compensation and maximum inconvenience not forgetting the thousands of west londoners who relie on it for jobs. The biggest fib was if the Victorians were to build an airport they'd build it to the East. Like hell they would. They's build it where the population was. The idea should have been put to sleep years ago.
was never going to happen. It would leave west london and the Thames corridor without an airport as Heathrow would close. Massive compensation and maximum inconvenience not forgetting the thousands of west londoners who relie on it for jobs. The biggest fib was if the Victorians were to build an airport they'd build it to the East. Like hell they would. They's build it where the population was. The idea should have been put to sleep years ago. RichardAC
  • Score: 3

11:55pm Thu 17 Jul 14

jayman says...

RichardAC wrote:
was never going to happen. It would leave west london and the Thames corridor without an airport as Heathrow would close. Massive compensation and maximum inconvenience not forgetting the thousands of west londoners who relie on it for jobs. The biggest fib was if the Victorians were to build an airport they'd build it to the East. Like hell they would. They's build it where the population was. The idea should have been put to sleep years ago.
nope. the Victorians would build infrastructure and towns would pop up round it. Problem is, we have a rip-off, over inflated and over priced economy that commands equally negative and corrupt planning system and construction sector. Fact of the matter is, we need new and bold infrastructure, but we sure as hell ain't going to get it with a system as cooked and bent as the one we have.
[quote][p][bold]RichardAC[/bold] wrote: was never going to happen. It would leave west london and the Thames corridor without an airport as Heathrow would close. Massive compensation and maximum inconvenience not forgetting the thousands of west londoners who relie on it for jobs. The biggest fib was if the Victorians were to build an airport they'd build it to the East. Like hell they would. They's build it where the population was. The idea should have been put to sleep years ago.[/p][/quote]nope. the Victorians would build infrastructure and towns would pop up round it. Problem is, we have a rip-off, over inflated and over priced economy that commands equally negative and corrupt planning system and construction sector. Fact of the matter is, we need new and bold infrastructure, but we sure as hell ain't going to get it with a system as cooked and bent as the one we have. jayman
  • Score: 1

10:42am Fri 18 Jul 14

RichardAC says...

jayman wrote:
RichardAC wrote:
was never going to happen. It would leave west london and the Thames corridor without an airport as Heathrow would close. Massive compensation and maximum inconvenience not forgetting the thousands of west londoners who relie on it for jobs. The biggest fib was if the Victorians were to build an airport they'd build it to the East. Like hell they would. They's build it where the population was. The idea should have been put to sleep years ago.
nope. the Victorians would build infrastructure and towns would pop up round it. Problem is, we have a rip-off, over inflated and over priced economy that commands equally negative and corrupt planning system and construction sector. Fact of the matter is, we need new and bold infrastructure, but we sure as hell ain't going to get it with a system as cooked and bent as the one we have.
Jayman you really are on another planet. Do you actually know anything about anything? You're just sore because it does not mean the end of Southend airport and your sad obsession with local Tories.
[quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RichardAC[/bold] wrote: was never going to happen. It would leave west london and the Thames corridor without an airport as Heathrow would close. Massive compensation and maximum inconvenience not forgetting the thousands of west londoners who relie on it for jobs. The biggest fib was if the Victorians were to build an airport they'd build it to the East. Like hell they would. They's build it where the population was. The idea should have been put to sleep years ago.[/p][/quote]nope. the Victorians would build infrastructure and towns would pop up round it. Problem is, we have a rip-off, over inflated and over priced economy that commands equally negative and corrupt planning system and construction sector. Fact of the matter is, we need new and bold infrastructure, but we sure as hell ain't going to get it with a system as cooked and bent as the one we have.[/p][/quote]Jayman you really are on another planet. Do you actually know anything about anything? You're just sore because it does not mean the end of Southend airport and your sad obsession with local Tories. RichardAC
  • Score: 0

11:24am Fri 18 Jul 14

jayman says...

RichardAC wrote:
jayman wrote:
RichardAC wrote:
was never going to happen. It would leave west london and the Thames corridor without an airport as Heathrow would close. Massive compensation and maximum inconvenience not forgetting the thousands of west londoners who relie on it for jobs. The biggest fib was if the Victorians were to build an airport they'd build it to the East. Like hell they would. They's build it where the population was. The idea should have been put to sleep years ago.
nope. the Victorians would build infrastructure and towns would pop up round it. Problem is, we have a rip-off, over inflated and over priced economy that commands equally negative and corrupt planning system and construction sector. Fact of the matter is, we need new and bold infrastructure, but we sure as hell ain't going to get it with a system as cooked and bent as the one we have.
Jayman you really are on another planet. Do you actually know anything about anything? You're just sore because it does not mean the end of Southend airport and your sad obsession with local Tories.
Richard are you nothing more than a sycophantic plain spotter who has never applied basic common sense or a reasoned opinion or view into any action or comment to do with anything presented before you by the invested interests of commercial or political powers. You're the kind of guy that believes that there is a monopoly of truth or opinion and that this monopoly is held by businesses or political entities. Sorry to burst your bubble Richard but im just a man with an opinion who understands the difference between being 'critical' and being 'oppositional' and i hold the belief that if individuals choose to do neither or choose not to pay 'attention' then we will soon end up in a socially unbearable and powerless position.

also. I would not describe the Tories as a party! I would describe them as a network or franchise of detestable a-holes who pillage the things that belong to us all. Once again, this is my opinion.
[quote][p][bold]RichardAC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RichardAC[/bold] wrote: was never going to happen. It would leave west london and the Thames corridor without an airport as Heathrow would close. Massive compensation and maximum inconvenience not forgetting the thousands of west londoners who relie on it for jobs. The biggest fib was if the Victorians were to build an airport they'd build it to the East. Like hell they would. They's build it where the population was. The idea should have been put to sleep years ago.[/p][/quote]nope. the Victorians would build infrastructure and towns would pop up round it. Problem is, we have a rip-off, over inflated and over priced economy that commands equally negative and corrupt planning system and construction sector. Fact of the matter is, we need new and bold infrastructure, but we sure as hell ain't going to get it with a system as cooked and bent as the one we have.[/p][/quote]Jayman you really are on another planet. Do you actually know anything about anything? You're just sore because it does not mean the end of Southend airport and your sad obsession with local Tories.[/p][/quote]Richard are you nothing more than a sycophantic plain spotter who has never applied basic common sense or a reasoned opinion or view into any action or comment to do with anything presented before you by the invested interests of commercial or political powers. You're the kind of guy that believes that there is a monopoly of truth or opinion and that this monopoly is held by businesses or political entities. Sorry to burst your bubble Richard but im just a man with an opinion who understands the difference between being 'critical' and being 'oppositional' and i hold the belief that if individuals choose to do neither or choose not to pay 'attention' then we will soon end up in a socially unbearable and powerless position. also. I would not describe the Tories as a party! I would describe them as a network or franchise of detestable a-holes who pillage the things that belong to us all. Once again, this is my opinion. jayman
  • Score: 0
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