Hospital may cash in on private care

Southend Standard: Hospital may cash in on private care Hospital may cash in on private care

SOUTHEND Hospital could start offering private treatment in a bid to shore up its finances, it has emerged.

Trust bosses made the suggestion after hearing there were overspends of £12.3million in 2013/14 and a £4.8million financial black hole in the current annual budget.

The hospital is also facing difficulties making cuts and paying creditors on time.

NHS hospitals can now carry out private care for patients, provided it is strictly kept separate from NHS work. However, Southend has yet to take advantage of this.

Alan Tobias, hospital chairman, said: “There is the issue of private practice income and there are a lot of private practice incentives.

“There are restrictions, but we could look to try to deliver services and make sure this is properly under consideration.

“It does not interfere with NHS delivery, but we are not making use of it at the moment.”

Trust bosses, who need to save £45million over five years, were only able to make £9million out of a planned £10.2million cuts last year.

The hospital’s board of directors heard at the end of the last financial year in March the trust was in deficit by £981,000.

It is having urgent talks with Southend and Castle Point Clinical Commissioning Groups over a funding shortfall for the current year of £4.8million.

The lack of cash means it is often taking around 60 days to pay medical and utility companies for services provided.

James O’Sullivan, finance director, who gave a financial update to the board said: “The issue of income from private practice is something we need to pick up on.”

A trust spokeswoman said no further details could be given on the plans.

She said: “At this stage, this was just an expression of interest by the board in exploring the possibility of gaining a further income from private work.

“No plans have yet been drawn up or assessed for viability.”

However, talk of privatisation has concerned Southend Keep the NHS Public.

Secretary Norman Traub said: “Under the 2012 Health and Social Care Bill an NHS Foundation Trust is entitled to draw up to 50 per cent of its revenue from private practice.

“This is a big concern if Southend is going to go down this line, as if I am a wealthy person from here, or another country where the health service is not as good, I will be able to come to Southend which will encourage wealthy patients to use it.

“So you and I who are on the NHS will go to the bottom, because we are not paying.”

In 2010-11 private practice patients treated within NHS hospitals in England generated a total income of £428million.

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7:52am Wed 7 May 14

Nebs says...

It does not interfere with NHS delivery. Yea, right.
It does not interfere with NHS delivery. Yea, right. Nebs
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8:13am Wed 7 May 14

gingerfox says...

Generally people only want to pay for something they feel is better than the free option. As well as the medical care, they might want easy parking, good food and hotel services, a low infection rate, reliability of service. They might want good availability of nursing staff. Staff who aren't rushed off their feet. Plenty of doctors and night cover.

Thee are a lot of factors necessary to attract private patients
Generally people only want to pay for something they feel is better than the free option. As well as the medical care, they might want easy parking, good food and hotel services, a low infection rate, reliability of service. They might want good availability of nursing staff. Staff who aren't rushed off their feet. Plenty of doctors and night cover. Thee are a lot of factors necessary to attract private patients gingerfox
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9:08am Wed 7 May 14

iain beag says...

Where are they going to get the staff?
Use existing staff?
More forced overtime?
Where are they going to get the staff? Use existing staff? More forced overtime? iain beag
  • Score: 3

9:11am Wed 7 May 14

Happy Chickie says...

gingerfox wrote:
Generally people only want to pay for something they feel is better than the free option. As well as the medical care, they might want easy parking, good food and hotel services, a low infection rate, reliability of service. They might want good availability of nursing staff. Staff who aren't rushed off their feet. Plenty of doctors and night cover.

Thee are a lot of factors necessary to attract private patients
But the NHS isn't free. It is funded by hard working taxpayers.
[quote][p][bold]gingerfox[/bold] wrote: Generally people only want to pay for something they feel is better than the free option. As well as the medical care, they might want easy parking, good food and hotel services, a low infection rate, reliability of service. They might want good availability of nursing staff. Staff who aren't rushed off their feet. Plenty of doctors and night cover. Thee are a lot of factors necessary to attract private patients[/p][/quote]But the NHS isn't free. It is funded by hard working taxpayers. Happy Chickie
  • Score: 5

9:18am Wed 7 May 14

Almeda11 says...

gingerfox wrote:
Generally people only want to pay for something they feel is better than the free option. As well as the medical care, they might want easy parking, good food and hotel services, a low infection rate, reliability of service. They might want good availability of nursing staff. Staff who aren't rushed off their feet. Plenty of doctors and night cover. Thee are a lot of factors necessary to attract private patients
l completely agree withn your comment. lf people have to pay more, often a lot more they will expect better treatments, low or no waiting times and all the rest.
But, actually the nhs is not " free" we pay for it through out national insurance and taxes, and judging from the horror stories in the Echo recently, ie mum bled to death while UNsupervised paramedics waited FORTY minutes before beginning to even start the ambulance, plus nationwide stories, ie, Stafford Hospital, they are not always getting the treatment they should.
[quote][p][bold]gingerfox[/bold] wrote: Generally people only want to pay for something they feel is better than the free option. As well as the medical care, they might want easy parking, good food and hotel services, a low infection rate, reliability of service. They might want good availability of nursing staff. Staff who aren't rushed off their feet. Plenty of doctors and night cover. Thee are a lot of factors necessary to attract private patients[/p][/quote]l completely agree withn your comment. lf people have to pay more, often a lot more they will expect better treatments, low or no waiting times and all the rest. But, actually the nhs is not " free" we pay for it through out national insurance and taxes, and judging from the horror stories in the Echo recently, ie mum bled to death while UNsupervised paramedics waited FORTY minutes before beginning to even start the ambulance, plus nationwide stories, ie, Stafford Hospital, they are not always getting the treatment they should. Almeda11
  • Score: 2

10:02am Wed 7 May 14

pembury53 says...

Almeda11 wrote:
gingerfox wrote: Generally people only want to pay for something they feel is better than the free option. As well as the medical care, they might want easy parking, good food and hotel services, a low infection rate, reliability of service. They might want good availability of nursing staff. Staff who aren't rushed off their feet. Plenty of doctors and night cover. Thee are a lot of factors necessary to attract private patients
l completely agree withn your comment. lf people have to pay more, often a lot more they will expect better treatments, low or no waiting times and all the rest. But, actually the nhs is not " free" we pay for it through out national insurance and taxes, and judging from the horror stories in the Echo recently, ie mum bled to death while UNsupervised paramedics waited FORTY minutes before beginning to even start the ambulance, plus nationwide stories, ie, Stafford Hospital, they are not always getting the treatment they should.
it's completely free for non english, paying no tax or NI
[quote][p][bold]Almeda11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gingerfox[/bold] wrote: Generally people only want to pay for something they feel is better than the free option. As well as the medical care, they might want easy parking, good food and hotel services, a low infection rate, reliability of service. They might want good availability of nursing staff. Staff who aren't rushed off their feet. Plenty of doctors and night cover. Thee are a lot of factors necessary to attract private patients[/p][/quote]l completely agree withn your comment. lf people have to pay more, often a lot more they will expect better treatments, low or no waiting times and all the rest. But, actually the nhs is not " free" we pay for it through out national insurance and taxes, and judging from the horror stories in the Echo recently, ie mum bled to death while UNsupervised paramedics waited FORTY minutes before beginning to even start the ambulance, plus nationwide stories, ie, Stafford Hospital, they are not always getting the treatment they should.[/p][/quote]it's completely free for non english, paying no tax or NI pembury53
  • Score: 3

4:21pm Wed 7 May 14

runwellian says...

gingerfox wrote:
Generally people only want to pay for something they feel is better than the free option. As well as the medical care, they might want easy parking, good food and hotel services, a low infection rate, reliability of service. They might want good availability of nursing staff. Staff who aren't rushed off their feet. Plenty of doctors and night cover.

Thee are a lot of factors necessary to attract private patients
Wrong ... I have many issues re hospital care and enquired about having an invasive test done privately at Southend hospital.

I was told the facilities / food would be exactly the same, the ward environment the same as for NHS patients, the same consultant who I presume gets paid privately but for using hospital facilities, the only benefit being is that I had more choice re when my procedure would be carried out.

I went to Harley Street and had the procedure done in the best of surroundings and the best of care!

Coughing up cash does not guarantee better care or facilities! Why should NHS nurses give better care to private patients on the same ward as NHS patients who struggle to get a decent cup of their famous stewed luke warm tea?
[quote][p][bold]gingerfox[/bold] wrote: Generally people only want to pay for something they feel is better than the free option. As well as the medical care, they might want easy parking, good food and hotel services, a low infection rate, reliability of service. They might want good availability of nursing staff. Staff who aren't rushed off their feet. Plenty of doctors and night cover. Thee are a lot of factors necessary to attract private patients[/p][/quote]Wrong ... I have many issues re hospital care and enquired about having an invasive test done privately at Southend hospital. I was told the facilities / food would be exactly the same, the ward environment the same as for NHS patients, the same consultant who I presume gets paid privately but for using hospital facilities, the only benefit being is that I had more choice re when my procedure would be carried out. I went to Harley Street and had the procedure done in the best of surroundings and the best of care! Coughing up cash does not guarantee better care or facilities! Why should NHS nurses give better care to private patients on the same ward as NHS patients who struggle to get a decent cup of their famous stewed luke warm tea? runwellian
  • Score: 1

10:07pm Wed 7 May 14

Almeda11 says...

pembury53 wrote:
Almeda11 wrote:
gingerfox wrote: Generally people only want to pay for something they feel is better than the free option. As well as the medical care, they might want easy parking, good food and hotel services, a low infection rate, reliability of service. They might want good availability of nursing staff. Staff who aren't rushed off their feet. Plenty of doctors and night cover. Thee are a lot of factors necessary to attract private patients
l completely agree withn your comment. lf people have to pay more, often a lot more they will expect better treatments, low or no waiting times and all the rest. But, actually the nhs is not " free" we pay for it through out national insurance and taxes, and judging from the horror stories in the Echo recently, ie mum bled to death while UNsupervised paramedics waited FORTY minutes before beginning to even start the ambulance, plus nationwide stories, ie, Stafford Hospital, they are not always getting the treatment they should.
it's completely free for non english, paying no tax or NI
You made this same point last time. The facts are that ANYONE who is working in this country, be they british born or immigrants, and is paying tax and national insurance, is, in effect, paying for the services of the nhs, they are NOT free, as another person on here has also pointed out.
[quote][p][bold]pembury53[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Almeda11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gingerfox[/bold] wrote: Generally people only want to pay for something they feel is better than the free option. As well as the medical care, they might want easy parking, good food and hotel services, a low infection rate, reliability of service. They might want good availability of nursing staff. Staff who aren't rushed off their feet. Plenty of doctors and night cover. Thee are a lot of factors necessary to attract private patients[/p][/quote]l completely agree withn your comment. lf people have to pay more, often a lot more they will expect better treatments, low or no waiting times and all the rest. But, actually the nhs is not " free" we pay for it through out national insurance and taxes, and judging from the horror stories in the Echo recently, ie mum bled to death while UNsupervised paramedics waited FORTY minutes before beginning to even start the ambulance, plus nationwide stories, ie, Stafford Hospital, they are not always getting the treatment they should.[/p][/quote]it's completely free for non english, paying no tax or NI[/p][/quote]You made this same point last time. The facts are that ANYONE who is working in this country, be they british born or immigrants, and is paying tax and national insurance, is, in effect, paying for the services of the nhs, they are NOT free, as another person on here has also pointed out. Almeda11
  • Score: 1

10:11pm Wed 7 May 14

Almeda11 says...

pembury53 wrote:
Almeda11 wrote:
gingerfox wrote: Generally people only want to pay for something they feel is better than the free option. As well as the medical care, they might want easy parking, good food and hotel services, a low infection rate, reliability of service. They might want good availability of nursing staff. Staff who aren't rushed off their feet. Plenty of doctors and night cover. Thee are a lot of factors necessary to attract private patients
l completely agree withn your comment. lf people have to pay more, often a lot more they will expect better treatments, low or no waiting times and all the rest. But, actually the nhs is not " free" we pay for it through out national insurance and taxes, and judging from the horror stories in the Echo recently, ie mum bled to death while UNsupervised paramedics waited FORTY minutes before beginning to even start the ambulance, plus nationwide stories, ie, Stafford Hospital, they are not always getting the treatment they should.
it's completely free for non english, paying no tax or NI
ps, it`s also completely free for non working ENGLISH people, l am referring to working people, as l`m sure you know.
[quote][p][bold]pembury53[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Almeda11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gingerfox[/bold] wrote: Generally people only want to pay for something they feel is better than the free option. As well as the medical care, they might want easy parking, good food and hotel services, a low infection rate, reliability of service. They might want good availability of nursing staff. Staff who aren't rushed off their feet. Plenty of doctors and night cover. Thee are a lot of factors necessary to attract private patients[/p][/quote]l completely agree withn your comment. lf people have to pay more, often a lot more they will expect better treatments, low or no waiting times and all the rest. But, actually the nhs is not " free" we pay for it through out national insurance and taxes, and judging from the horror stories in the Echo recently, ie mum bled to death while UNsupervised paramedics waited FORTY minutes before beginning to even start the ambulance, plus nationwide stories, ie, Stafford Hospital, they are not always getting the treatment they should.[/p][/quote]it's completely free for non english, paying no tax or NI[/p][/quote]ps, it`s also completely free for non working ENGLISH people, l am referring to working people, as l`m sure you know. Almeda11
  • Score: 1

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