Homes site looks like Battle of the Somme: Councillors concern over Hawkwell site

Southend Standard: Drainage concerns – John and Christine Mason with plans for the site in Hawkwell Drainage concerns – John and Christine Mason with plans for the site in Hawkwell

COUNCILLORS say they are concerned a lack of drainage on a new housing development could increase the risk of flooding for neighbouring residents.

The Clements Gate development is being built by David Wilson Homes, at a site in Hawkwell previously known as Christmas Tree Farm.

Independent councillors for Hawkwell West, John and Christine Mason, are concerned over the drainage of the site, which will provide 175 new homes.

The site has been cleared in preparation for building, with a set of drainage pipes to take water away from the site and store it before regulating flow into Hawkwell Brook. The concern is it is not yet connected.

The Masons set up a meeting with the Environment Agency on Monday, following concerns from residents after Hawkwell Brook, which runs alongside the side, burst its banks last August.

Mr Mason said: “The Environment Agency were very surprised to hear the drainage system had not been connected.

“Everybody knows clearing land causes less water to be retained on site and more runs off.

“The cleared land looked like the Somme until recently when they pumped the water off.”

Kathleen Ward, of Thorpe Close, which neighbours the Clements Gate site, said she was worried about the risk of flooding.

She said: “The bottom of our garden has been soggy since last August. Even when we have dry weather, it just doesn’t dry out.

“They have just been moving mud around on the site since August hoping it will drain, but they had to pump it out eventually.”

A spokesman from the Environment Agency said: “We are aware of the ongoing issues at the housing development near Hawkwell Brook.

“Our role has been to advise David Wilson Homes, the local authorities and Anglian Water on the best course of action to resolve the problems.

“We are hoping the work required will be undertaken as soon as possible and we will continue to monitor the situation.”

David Wilson Homes said final permissions will shortly be issued to allow the drain age system to be fully connected.

A spokesman said: “We are working hard to get the permanent drainage system in place for the development.

“In the meantime, there is a temporary drainage system in place which all statutory bodies, including the Environment Agency, are fully aware of and have been consulted on.”

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2:31pm Sun 4 May 14

I care about rayleigh says...

Bound to cause flooding in the area. a few years ago, Crest homes built on a flood plain in Rayleigh, & pparenly put in huge undergroundpipes to drain water away. But many of these houses have suffered subsidence, some are permanently sitting on water, a other,more established houses in the area have recently flooded.
Water will go where it wants.
We should not building on these flood plains.
Bound to cause flooding in the area. a few years ago, Crest homes built on a flood plain in Rayleigh, & pparenly put in huge undergroundpipes to drain water away. But many of these houses have suffered subsidence, some are permanently sitting on water, a other,more established houses in the area have recently flooded. Water will go where it wants. We should not building on these flood plains. I care about rayleigh
  • Score: 9

4:16pm Sun 4 May 14

scrounger‎ says...

The battle of the Somme was one of the largest of World War I, in which more than 1,000,000 men were wounded or killed, making it one of humanity's bloodiest battles, so have some respect for our men.
The battle of the Somme was one of the largest of World War I, in which more than 1,000,000 men were wounded or killed, making it one of humanity's bloodiest battles, so have some respect for our men. scrounger‎
  • Score: 25

5:56pm Sun 4 May 14

Kim Gandy says...

scrounger‎ wrote:
The battle of the Somme was one of the largest of World War I, in which more than 1,000,000 men were wounded or killed, making it one of humanity's bloodiest battles, so have some respect for our men.
I agree entirely with that statement.
[quote][p][bold]scrounger‎[/bold] wrote: The battle of the Somme was one of the largest of World War I, in which more than 1,000,000 men were wounded or killed, making it one of humanity's bloodiest battles, so have some respect for our men.[/p][/quote]I agree entirely with that statement. Kim Gandy
  • Score: 12

6:24pm Sun 4 May 14

the25man says...

Building on a flood plain is OK when done properly. Drainage is the key but this can only be done if the ground is dry enough for the works to be carried out. In this case there was no natural way to drain the land so make a sump hole and pump out.
Canvey is all on a flood plain so it can be done
Building on a flood plain is OK when done properly. Drainage is the key but this can only be done if the ground is dry enough for the works to be carried out. In this case there was no natural way to drain the land so make a sump hole and pump out. Canvey is all on a flood plain so it can be done the25man
  • Score: 6

7:59pm Sun 4 May 14

Nebs says...

There would have been a flood risk assessment prior to permission being given to build. If the area floods due to the new builds then sue the insurers of whoever did the flood risk assessment.
There would have been a flood risk assessment prior to permission being given to build. If the area floods due to the new builds then sue the insurers of whoever did the flood risk assessment. Nebs
  • Score: 5

8:05pm Sun 4 May 14

InTheKnowOk says...

Do me a favour .. DON'T compare this site to the Battle Of The Somme ... I lost family members in that War and couldn't imagine the horrors that they went through ...
Do me a favour .. DON'T compare this site to the Battle Of The Somme ... I lost family members in that War and couldn't imagine the horrors that they went through ... InTheKnowOk
  • Score: 14

9:06pm Sun 4 May 14

sesibollox says...

InTheKnowOk wrote:
Do me a favour .. DON'T compare this site to the Battle Of The Somme ... I lost family members in that War and couldn't imagine the horrors that they went through ...
You must be old...
[quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: Do me a favour .. DON'T compare this site to the Battle Of The Somme ... I lost family members in that War and couldn't imagine the horrors that they went through ...[/p][/quote]You must be old... sesibollox
  • Score: -13

9:29pm Sun 4 May 14

the25man says...

sesibollox wrote:
InTheKnowOk wrote:
Do me a favour .. DON'T compare this site to the Battle Of The Somme ... I lost family members in that War and couldn't imagine the horrors that they went through ...
You must be old...
What a silly comment have you no grand parents or great grand parents.
Think before you make such comments
[quote][p][bold]sesibollox[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: Do me a favour .. DON'T compare this site to the Battle Of The Somme ... I lost family members in that War and couldn't imagine the horrors that they went through ...[/p][/quote]You must be old...[/p][/quote]What a silly comment have you no grand parents or great grand parents. Think before you make such comments the25man
  • Score: 9

9:39pm Sun 4 May 14

ThisYear says...

InTheKnowOk wrote:
Do me a favour .. DON'T compare this site to the Battle Of The Somme ... I lost family members in that War and couldn't imagine the horrors that they went through ...
I too lost family members on the Somme and I think Mr Mason is a total idiot for making such a comparison.

He should apologise for his insensitivity.
[quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: Do me a favour .. DON'T compare this site to the Battle Of The Somme ... I lost family members in that War and couldn't imagine the horrors that they went through ...[/p][/quote]I too lost family members on the Somme and I think Mr Mason is a total idiot for making such a comparison. He should apologise for his insensitivity. ThisYear
  • Score: 6

10:12pm Sun 4 May 14

InTheKnowOk says...

sesibollox wrote:
InTheKnowOk wrote:
Do me a favour .. DON'T compare this site to the Battle Of The Somme ... I lost family members in that War and couldn't imagine the horrors that they went through ...
You must be old...
You numpty..
[quote][p][bold]sesibollox[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: Do me a favour .. DON'T compare this site to the Battle Of The Somme ... I lost family members in that War and couldn't imagine the horrors that they went through ...[/p][/quote]You must be old...[/p][/quote]You numpty.. InTheKnowOk
  • Score: 3

10:14pm Sun 4 May 14

InTheKnowOk says...

ThisYear wrote:
InTheKnowOk wrote:
Do me a favour .. DON'T compare this site to the Battle Of The Somme ... I lost family members in that War and couldn't imagine the horrors that they went through ...
I too lost family members on the Somme and I think Mr Mason is a total idiot for making such a comparison.

He should apologise for his insensitivity.
That's something we agree on then!
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: Do me a favour .. DON'T compare this site to the Battle Of The Somme ... I lost family members in that War and couldn't imagine the horrors that they went through ...[/p][/quote]I too lost family members on the Somme and I think Mr Mason is a total idiot for making such a comparison. He should apologise for his insensitivity.[/p][/quote]That's something we agree on then! InTheKnowOk
  • Score: 3

8:45am Mon 5 May 14

sesibollox says...

InTheKnowOk wrote:
sesibollox wrote:
InTheKnowOk wrote:
Do me a favour .. DON'T compare this site to the Battle Of The Somme ... I lost family members in that War and couldn't imagine the horrors that they went through ...
You must be old...
You numpty..
Moron, to jump on the "I want some sympathy wagon" the saying it resembles the Somme has been a common phrase for years, just because it's the 100th anniversary, shows the dimwit attributes, of those who complain, saying its disrespectful.
[quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sesibollox[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: Do me a favour .. DON'T compare this site to the Battle Of The Somme ... I lost family members in that War and couldn't imagine the horrors that they went through ...[/p][/quote]You must be old...[/p][/quote]You numpty..[/p][/quote]Moron, to jump on the "I want some sympathy wagon" the saying it resembles the Somme has been a common phrase for years, just because it's the 100th anniversary, shows the dimwit attributes, of those who complain, saying its disrespectful. sesibollox
  • Score: -4

8:53am Mon 5 May 14

sesibollox says...

ThisYear wrote:
InTheKnowOk wrote:
Do me a favour .. DON'T compare this site to the Battle Of The Somme ... I lost family members in that War and couldn't imagine the horrors that they went through ...
I too lost family members on the Somme and I think Mr Mason is a total idiot for making such a comparison.

He should apologise for his insensitivity.
The battle of the Somme, was in 1916, 98 years ago, if you feel you're still in bereavement may I suggest you seek some medical help...
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: Do me a favour .. DON'T compare this site to the Battle Of The Somme ... I lost family members in that War and couldn't imagine the horrors that they went through ...[/p][/quote]I too lost family members on the Somme and I think Mr Mason is a total idiot for making such a comparison. He should apologise for his insensitivity.[/p][/quote]The battle of the Somme, was in 1916, 98 years ago, if you feel you're still in bereavement may I suggest you seek some medical help... sesibollox
  • Score: -1

12:47pm Mon 5 May 14

carnmountyouknowitmakessense says...

A white feather to you all you conchi's
A white feather to you all you conchi's carnmountyouknowitmakessense
  • Score: 0

12:49pm Mon 5 May 14

carnmountyouknowitmakessense says...

Now get your webbing blancoed and some Kiwi on those boots, use the button stick, and get fell in, and together we'll Pack up our troubles.
Now get your webbing blancoed and some Kiwi on those boots, use the button stick, and get fell in, and together we'll Pack up our troubles. carnmountyouknowitmakessense
  • Score: 0

5:08pm Mon 5 May 14

poortaxpayer says...

Shock horror - building site looks like building site - Hold that front page!
Shock horror - building site looks like building site - Hold that front page! poortaxpayer
  • Score: 7

6:41pm Mon 5 May 14

abd123 says...

If this was a flood plain then building and draining the area is not a good idea. Flood plains hold water until natural drainage can take the water away. Streams and rivers only have a limited capacity and if water than would been slowly released into them now have that water rushing through large pipes then flooding downstream will occur.
If this was a flood plain then building and draining the area is not a good idea. Flood plains hold water until natural drainage can take the water away. Streams and rivers only have a limited capacity and if water than would been slowly released into them now have that water rushing through large pipes then flooding downstream will occur. abd123
  • Score: 2

7:00pm Mon 5 May 14

ThisYear says...

sesibollox wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
InTheKnowOk wrote:
Do me a favour .. DON'T compare this site to the Battle Of The Somme ... I lost family members in that War and couldn't imagine the horrors that they went through ...
I too lost family members on the Somme and I think Mr Mason is a total idiot for making such a comparison.

He should apologise for his insensitivity.
The battle of the Somme, was in 1916, 98 years ago, if you feel you're still in bereavement may I suggest you seek some medical help...
'If' I did feel that way then I might consider your advice...There is no time limit on respect for relatives who have died.
[quote][p][bold]sesibollox[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: Do me a favour .. DON'T compare this site to the Battle Of The Somme ... I lost family members in that War and couldn't imagine the horrors that they went through ...[/p][/quote]I too lost family members on the Somme and I think Mr Mason is a total idiot for making such a comparison. He should apologise for his insensitivity.[/p][/quote]The battle of the Somme, was in 1916, 98 years ago, if you feel you're still in bereavement may I suggest you seek some medical help...[/p][/quote]'If' I did feel that way then I might consider your advice...There is no time limit on respect for relatives who have died. ThisYear
  • Score: 3

7:17pm Mon 5 May 14

carnmountyouknowitmakessense says...

My Grandfather fought at both the Somme as well as Pachendale, yet I show no disrespect, when I agree to the BBC news reporting Glastonbury resembled the Somme during a past washed out festival.
My Grandfather fought at both the Somme as well as Pachendale, yet I show no disrespect, when I agree to the BBC news reporting Glastonbury resembled the Somme during a past washed out festival. carnmountyouknowitmakessense
  • Score: -2

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