Southend councillors have given the go-ahead for a controversial seawall in Shoebury

Southend Standard: Seawall wins approval despite opposition Seawall wins approval despite opposition

A CONTROVERSIAL 7ft seawall across Shoebury Common has been approved, despite massive opposition.

Southend councillors have given the go-ahead for the £5million seawall, designed to protect more than 350 homes and businesses in Shoebury.

The decision comes despite 1,744 letters of objection.

The Friends of Shoebury Common had fought the plans for almost two years.

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4:08pm Wed 9 Apr 14

Southend Andy says...

Good news, better now.then when its too late
Good news, better now.then when its too late Southend Andy
  • Score: 10

4:26pm Wed 9 Apr 14

Loosers says...

You don't need to be an engineer to see that the sea frequently comes over the wall at the Chalkwell end of the seafront, and does not at the Shoebury end. Promises of cash from a developer to gain approval to build on a flood plain, and of course an opportunity for SBC to use up the mountain of earth from the Westcliff project, made this outcome inevitable.

Time to put those who have supported this fiasco out of business at the next election. Councillors need to learn that they work for us - the electorate, and to ignore the wishes of the people is arrogance beyond belief. I'm appalled.
You don't need to be an engineer to see that the sea frequently comes over the wall at the Chalkwell end of the seafront, and does not at the Shoebury end. Promises of cash from a developer to gain approval to build on a flood plain, and of course an opportunity for SBC to use up the mountain of earth from the Westcliff project, made this outcome inevitable. Time to put those who have supported this fiasco out of business at the next election. Councillors need to learn that they work for us - the electorate, and to ignore the wishes of the people is arrogance beyond belief. I'm appalled. Loosers
  • Score: 20

4:31pm Wed 9 Apr 14

pembury53 says...

will certainly look an eyesore, glad it's not outside my gaff.....
will certainly look an eyesore, glad it's not outside my gaff..... pembury53
  • Score: 13

4:41pm Wed 9 Apr 14

shoess3 says...

I am in favour of the wall. The only people that will care will be those along the seafront and doubt they really care (they're all raised up quite high anyway)! Apart from that, I don't think it will be an eyesore. It's a grass embankment, not the same as the Canvey walls. Either way, I'd rather money be spent on reducing the risk to Shoebury than at Chalkwell where no houses would be affected.
I am in favour of the wall. The only people that will care will be those along the seafront and doubt they really care (they're all raised up quite high anyway)! Apart from that, I don't think it will be an eyesore. It's a grass embankment, not the same as the Canvey walls. Either way, I'd rather money be spent on reducing the risk to Shoebury than at Chalkwell where no houses would be affected. shoess3
  • Score: 2

4:49pm Wed 9 Apr 14

Cockle says...

Was there ever any doubt as to what the outcome would be?????
Was there ever any doubt as to what the outcome would be????? Cockle
  • Score: 19

4:54pm Wed 9 Apr 14

JH1000 says...

Loosers wrote:
You don't need to be an engineer to see that the sea frequently comes over the wall at the Chalkwell end of the seafront, and does not at the Shoebury end. Promises of cash from a developer to gain approval to build on a flood plain, and of course an opportunity for SBC to use up the mountain of earth from the Westcliff project, made this outcome inevitable. Time to put those who have supported this fiasco out of business at the next election. Councillors need to learn that they work for us - the electorate, and to ignore the wishes of the people is arrogance beyond belief. I'm appalled.
Couldn't agree more...
[quote][p][bold]Loosers[/bold] wrote: You don't need to be an engineer to see that the sea frequently comes over the wall at the Chalkwell end of the seafront, and does not at the Shoebury end. Promises of cash from a developer to gain approval to build on a flood plain, and of course an opportunity for SBC to use up the mountain of earth from the Westcliff project, made this outcome inevitable. Time to put those who have supported this fiasco out of business at the next election. Councillors need to learn that they work for us - the electorate, and to ignore the wishes of the people is arrogance beyond belief. I'm appalled.[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more... JH1000
  • Score: 8

5:21pm Wed 9 Apr 14

John Bull 40 says...

Ask the people in this country who were flooded this year if they would like
a grassy bank between them and the river, guess what the answer would be,
and if you think it could never happen neither did they.
Ask the people in this country who were flooded this year if they would like a grassy bank between them and the river, guess what the answer would be, and if you think it could never happen neither did they. John Bull 40
  • Score: 11

5:50pm Wed 9 Apr 14

Nelly99 says...

Once again the council have listened to the people. And then done exactly what they had planned anyway. (Cuckoo Corner), (Progress Road), (Victoria Circus). There has never been flooding at Shoebury...so let's build a wall there. Hideous, unneccessary, expensive and yet more waste of our money.
What can you do against such stupidity?
Once again the council have listened to the people. And then done exactly what they had planned anyway. (Cuckoo Corner), (Progress Road), (Victoria Circus). There has never been flooding at Shoebury...so let's build a wall there. Hideous, unneccessary, expensive and yet more waste of our money. What can you do against such stupidity? Nelly99
  • Score: 10

7:40pm Wed 9 Apr 14

ThisYear says...

Nelly99 wrote:
Once again the council have listened to the people. And then done exactly what they had planned anyway. (Cuckoo Corner), (Progress Road), (Victoria Circus). There has never been flooding at Shoebury...so let's build a wall there. Hideous, unneccessary, expensive and yet more waste of our money.
What can you do against such stupidity?
Challenge it legally.
[quote][p][bold]Nelly99[/bold] wrote: Once again the council have listened to the people. And then done exactly what they had planned anyway. (Cuckoo Corner), (Progress Road), (Victoria Circus). There has never been flooding at Shoebury...so let's build a wall there. Hideous, unneccessary, expensive and yet more waste of our money. What can you do against such stupidity?[/p][/quote]Challenge it legally. ThisYear
  • Score: 6

10:50pm Wed 9 Apr 14

Joe Clark says...

Thankfully the issue over protecting lives homes and trades won out over the we are not in danger protesters.

more good news is that the lagoon and the indoor play area were also passed but the sealife adventure was delayed somebody moaned about the colour...
Thankfully the issue over protecting lives homes and trades won out over the we are not in danger protesters. more good news is that the lagoon and the indoor play area were also passed but the sealife adventure was delayed somebody moaned about the colour... Joe Clark
  • Score: 3

11:47pm Wed 9 Apr 14

Nowthatsworthknowing says...

Glad to hear it is being built, hope they extend it, all the way to the pier...
Glad to hear it is being built, hope they extend it, all the way to the pier... Nowthatsworthknowing
  • Score: 2

7:07am Thu 10 Apr 14

Happy Chickie says...

Nelly99 wrote:
Once again the council have listened to the people. And then done exactly what they had planned anyway. (Cuckoo Corner), (Progress Road), (Victoria Circus). There has never been flooding at Shoebury...so let's build a wall there. Hideous, unneccessary, expensive and yet more waste of our money.
What can you do against such stupidity?
I wonder if you would say that if your home was flooded.
[quote][p][bold]Nelly99[/bold] wrote: Once again the council have listened to the people. And then done exactly what they had planned anyway. (Cuckoo Corner), (Progress Road), (Victoria Circus). There has never been flooding at Shoebury...so let's build a wall there. Hideous, unneccessary, expensive and yet more waste of our money. What can you do against such stupidity?[/p][/quote]I wonder if you would say that if your home was flooded. Happy Chickie
  • Score: 12

7:20am Thu 10 Apr 14

SARFENDMAN says...

No surprise as an odd-on outcome. As for a PR SBC exercise, it was straight out ot the form book.
No surprise as an odd-on outcome. As for a PR SBC exercise, it was straight out ot the form book. SARFENDMAN
  • Score: -3

9:39am Thu 10 Apr 14

maureen says...

Nelly99 wrote:
Once again the council have listened to the people. And then done exactly what they had planned anyway. (Cuckoo Corner), (Progress Road), (Victoria Circus). There has never been flooding at Shoebury...so let's build a wall there. Hideous, unneccessary, expensive and yet more waste of our money.
What can you do against such stupidity?
STOP voting for the present controllers.. we do still have a choice on who we want to vote for
[quote][p][bold]Nelly99[/bold] wrote: Once again the council have listened to the people. And then done exactly what they had planned anyway. (Cuckoo Corner), (Progress Road), (Victoria Circus). There has never been flooding at Shoebury...so let's build a wall there. Hideous, unneccessary, expensive and yet more waste of our money. What can you do against such stupidity?[/p][/quote]STOP voting for the present controllers.. we do still have a choice on who we want to vote for maureen
  • Score: 6

10:08am Thu 10 Apr 14

Nelly99 says...

Happy Chickie wrote:
Nelly99 wrote: Once again the council have listened to the people. And then done exactly what they had planned anyway. (Cuckoo Corner), (Progress Road), (Victoria Circus). There has never been flooding at Shoebury...so let's build a wall there. Hideous, unneccessary, expensive and yet more waste of our money. What can you do against such stupidity?
I wonder if you would say that if your home was flooded.
Well Chickie there is no evidence that the area where they are proposing the wall has ever flooded. The nearest houses are 30 feet above the sea wall level at Thorpe Bay Gdns, Leitrim, Lodwick etc. No danger of flooding there.
Whilst I have the greatest sympathy for people who had their houses flooded in the summer I think if you buy a house in a flood risk area there is always that possibility.
[quote][p][bold]Happy Chickie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nelly99[/bold] wrote: Once again the council have listened to the people. And then done exactly what they had planned anyway. (Cuckoo Corner), (Progress Road), (Victoria Circus). There has never been flooding at Shoebury...so let's build a wall there. Hideous, unneccessary, expensive and yet more waste of our money. What can you do against such stupidity?[/p][/quote]I wonder if you would say that if your home was flooded.[/p][/quote]Well Chickie there is no evidence that the area where they are proposing the wall has ever flooded. The nearest houses are 30 feet above the sea wall level at Thorpe Bay Gdns, Leitrim, Lodwick etc. No danger of flooding there. Whilst I have the greatest sympathy for people who had their houses flooded in the summer I think if you buy a house in a flood risk area there is always that possibility. Nelly99
  • Score: 6

10:10am Thu 10 Apr 14

Nelly99 says...

maureen wrote:
Nelly99 wrote: Once again the council have listened to the people. And then done exactly what they had planned anyway. (Cuckoo Corner), (Progress Road), (Victoria Circus). There has never been flooding at Shoebury...so let's build a wall there. Hideous, unneccessary, expensive and yet more waste of our money. What can you do against such stupidity?
STOP voting for the present controllers.. we do still have a choice on who we want to vote for
Sadly Maureen whoever you vote for the government,(Council) always get in!
They are all as bad as each other.
[quote][p][bold]maureen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nelly99[/bold] wrote: Once again the council have listened to the people. And then done exactly what they had planned anyway. (Cuckoo Corner), (Progress Road), (Victoria Circus). There has never been flooding at Shoebury...so let's build a wall there. Hideous, unneccessary, expensive and yet more waste of our money. What can you do against such stupidity?[/p][/quote]STOP voting for the present controllers.. we do still have a choice on who we want to vote for[/p][/quote]Sadly Maureen whoever you vote for the government,(Council) always get in! They are all as bad as each other. Nelly99
  • Score: -1

1:12pm Thu 10 Apr 14

Shoebury Shrimper says...

Good news that this scheme was passed for approval. It has been so irritating listening to the ramblings of "Friends of Shoebury Common" who never showed any concern for those of us who live in the flood risk area. They were just interested in the views from their above sea level homes and the feelings of a handful of beach hut owners.Looking at the objections from FOSC on the Council's website it can be seen that over 90% of them do not even live in the at risk area! Their scaremongering has been to no avail. The wall will not affect those of us who regularly enjoy walking the promenade. The wall will be behind the beach huts on what is just a car park! The objectors would be quite happy to let flooding happen, have they not heard of climate change?
Good news that this scheme was passed for approval. It has been so irritating listening to the ramblings of "Friends of Shoebury Common" who never showed any concern for those of us who live in the flood risk area. They were just interested in the views from their above sea level homes and the feelings of a handful of beach hut owners.Looking at the objections from FOSC on the Council's website it can be seen that over 90% of them do not even live in the at risk area! Their scaremongering has been to no avail. The wall will not affect those of us who regularly enjoy walking the promenade. The wall will be behind the beach huts on what is just a car park! The objectors would be quite happy to let flooding happen, have they not heard of climate change? Shoebury Shrimper
  • Score: 3

1:38pm Thu 10 Apr 14

Nowthatsworthknowing says...

Shoebury Shrimper wrote:
Good news that this scheme was passed for approval. It has been so irritating listening to the ramblings of "Friends of Shoebury Common" who never showed any concern for those of us who live in the flood risk area. They were just interested in the views from their above sea level homes and the feelings of a handful of beach hut owners.Looking at the objections from FOSC on the Council's website it can be seen that over 90% of them do not even live in the at risk area! Their scaremongering has been to no avail. The wall will not affect those of us who regularly enjoy walking the promenade. The wall will be behind the beach huts on what is just a car park! The objectors would be quite happy to let flooding happen, have they not heard of climate change?
Two poorly written sign makers, looking for a new project, any offers welcome...
[quote][p][bold]Shoebury Shrimper[/bold] wrote: Good news that this scheme was passed for approval. It has been so irritating listening to the ramblings of "Friends of Shoebury Common" who never showed any concern for those of us who live in the flood risk area. They were just interested in the views from their above sea level homes and the feelings of a handful of beach hut owners.Looking at the objections from FOSC on the Council's website it can be seen that over 90% of them do not even live in the at risk area! Their scaremongering has been to no avail. The wall will not affect those of us who regularly enjoy walking the promenade. The wall will be behind the beach huts on what is just a car park! The objectors would be quite happy to let flooding happen, have they not heard of climate change?[/p][/quote]Two poorly written sign makers, looking for a new project, any offers welcome... Nowthatsworthknowing
  • Score: -1

1:40pm Thu 10 Apr 14

Nowthatsworthknowing says...

Nelly99 wrote:
maureen wrote:
Nelly99 wrote: Once again the council have listened to the people. And then done exactly what they had planned anyway. (Cuckoo Corner), (Progress Road), (Victoria Circus). There has never been flooding at Shoebury...so let's build a wall there. Hideous, unneccessary, expensive and yet more waste of our money. What can you do against such stupidity?
STOP voting for the present controllers.. we do still have a choice on who we want to vote for
Sadly Maureen whoever you vote for the government,(Council) always get in!
They are all as bad as each other.
You stand for election numbnuts, and bring along a utopia of wealthy living..
[quote][p][bold]Nelly99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]maureen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nelly99[/bold] wrote: Once again the council have listened to the people. And then done exactly what they had planned anyway. (Cuckoo Corner), (Progress Road), (Victoria Circus). There has never been flooding at Shoebury...so let's build a wall there. Hideous, unneccessary, expensive and yet more waste of our money. What can you do against such stupidity?[/p][/quote]STOP voting for the present controllers.. we do still have a choice on who we want to vote for[/p][/quote]Sadly Maureen whoever you vote for the government,(Council) always get in! They are all as bad as each other.[/p][/quote]You stand for election numbnuts, and bring along a utopia of wealthy living.. Nowthatsworthknowing
  • Score: 1

1:42pm Thu 10 Apr 14

Nowthatsworthknowing says...

pembury53 wrote:
will certainly look an eyesore, glad it's not outside my gaff.....
Shoebury has always been the parson's nose of South East Essex..
[quote][p][bold]pembury53[/bold] wrote: will certainly look an eyesore, glad it's not outside my gaff.....[/p][/quote]Shoebury has always been the parson's nose of South East Essex.. Nowthatsworthknowing
  • Score: -5

2:07pm Thu 10 Apr 14

Joe Clark says...

Shoebury Shrimper wrote:
Good news that this scheme was passed for approval. It has been so irritating listening to the ramblings of "Friends of Shoebury Common" who never showed any concern for those of us who live in the flood risk area. They were just interested in the views from their above sea level homes and the feelings of a handful of beach hut owners.Looking at the objections from FOSC on the Council's website it can be seen that over 90% of them do not even live in the at risk area! Their scaremongering has been to no avail. The wall will not affect those of us who regularly enjoy walking the promenade. The wall will be behind the beach huts on what is just a car park! The objectors would be quite happy to let flooding happen, have they not heard of climate change?
Well said,

The vast majority of the anti's do NOT live in the risk area, the only people that should really have a say is those at risk not somebody that lives miles away.

It is almost as if people would rather protect the view than peoples lives, what a shallow line of thought.

Planning law on an issue like this is first and foremost the protection of life NOT the protection of the view, the wall will only be seen between the beach huts 99.9% of people will be looking out too sea so that view will not change, why people say the view will be lost I don't know, yes the café might loose a bit of its view but once again a view is NOT protected in planning law, it is impossible for such an application as this to be refused on the grounds of the view.

Why is it that the majority of the time the protested only say wall this wall that wall the other and very rarely state the from the road and public foot path you will see a lush green bank...
[quote][p][bold]Shoebury Shrimper[/bold] wrote: Good news that this scheme was passed for approval. It has been so irritating listening to the ramblings of "Friends of Shoebury Common" who never showed any concern for those of us who live in the flood risk area. They were just interested in the views from their above sea level homes and the feelings of a handful of beach hut owners.Looking at the objections from FOSC on the Council's website it can be seen that over 90% of them do not even live in the at risk area! Their scaremongering has been to no avail. The wall will not affect those of us who regularly enjoy walking the promenade. The wall will be behind the beach huts on what is just a car park! The objectors would be quite happy to let flooding happen, have they not heard of climate change?[/p][/quote]Well said, The vast majority of the anti's do NOT live in the risk area, the only people that should really have a say is those at risk not somebody that lives miles away. It is almost as if people would rather protect the view than peoples lives, what a shallow line of thought. Planning law on an issue like this is first and foremost the protection of life NOT the protection of the view, the wall will only be seen between the beach huts 99.9% of people will be looking out too sea so that view will not change, why people say the view will be lost I don't know, yes the café might loose a bit of its view but once again a view is NOT protected in planning law, it is impossible for such an application as this to be refused on the grounds of the view. Why is it that the majority of the time the protested only say wall this wall that wall the other and very rarely state the from the road and public foot path you will see a lush green bank... Joe Clark
  • Score: 5

2:36pm Thu 10 Apr 14

Nelly99 says...

Nowthatsworthknowing wrote:
Nelly99 wrote:
maureen wrote:
Nelly99 wrote: Once again the council have listened to the people. And then done exactly what they had planned anyway. (Cuckoo Corner), (Progress Road), (Victoria Circus). There has never been flooding at Shoebury...so let's build a wall there. Hideous, unneccessary, expensive and yet more waste of our money. What can you do against such stupidity?
STOP voting for the present controllers.. we do still have a choice on who we want to vote for
Sadly Maureen whoever you vote for the government,(Council) always get in! They are all as bad as each other.
You stand for election numbnuts, and bring along a utopia of wealthy living..
Carnac...the voice of reason!
[quote][p][bold]Nowthatsworthknowing[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nelly99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]maureen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nelly99[/bold] wrote: Once again the council have listened to the people. And then done exactly what they had planned anyway. (Cuckoo Corner), (Progress Road), (Victoria Circus). There has never been flooding at Shoebury...so let's build a wall there. Hideous, unneccessary, expensive and yet more waste of our money. What can you do against such stupidity?[/p][/quote]STOP voting for the present controllers.. we do still have a choice on who we want to vote for[/p][/quote]Sadly Maureen whoever you vote for the government,(Council) always get in! They are all as bad as each other.[/p][/quote]You stand for election numbnuts, and bring along a utopia of wealthy living..[/p][/quote]Carnac...the voice of reason! Nelly99
  • Score: 4

3:23pm Thu 10 Apr 14

carnmountyouknowitmakessense says...

Nowthatsworthknowing wrote:
pembury53 wrote:
will certainly look an eyesore, glad it's not outside my gaff.....
Shoebury has always been the parson's nose of South East Essex..
Lol fantastic, the description of Shoebury is also funny
[quote][p][bold]Nowthatsworthknowing[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pembury53[/bold] wrote: will certainly look an eyesore, glad it's not outside my gaff.....[/p][/quote]Shoebury has always been the parson's nose of South East Essex..[/p][/quote]Lol fantastic, the description of Shoebury is also funny carnmountyouknowitmakessense
  • Score: -2

3:25pm Thu 10 Apr 14

carnmountyouknowitmakessense says...

Seriously though, I rather think this sea wall will be extended, once the climatic changes reach epidemic proportions, but at least this new wall will be the foundation for further longer, and higher walls, as the need arises,no pun intended...
Seriously though, I rather think this sea wall will be extended, once the climatic changes reach epidemic proportions, but at least this new wall will be the foundation for further longer, and higher walls, as the need arises,no pun intended... carnmountyouknowitmakessense
  • Score: 0

4:48pm Thu 10 Apr 14

gordonbennet says...

Shoebury Shrimper wrote:
Good news that this scheme was passed for approval. It has been so irritating listening to the ramblings of "Friends of Shoebury Common" who never showed any concern for those of us who live in the flood risk area. They were just interested in the views from their above sea level homes and the feelings of a handful of beach hut owners.Looking at the objections from FOSC on the Council's website it can be seen that over 90% of them do not even live in the at risk area! Their scaremongering has been to no avail. The wall will not affect those of us who regularly enjoy walking the promenade. The wall will be behind the beach huts on what is just a car park! The objectors would be quite happy to let flooding happen, have they not heard of climate change?
Not sure which area of Shoebury you live in, but none of the existing properties appear to be at risk according to the council's map, apart from maybe the Shorehouse pub. Those properties most at risk are not yet built. If the sea were ever to overtop the wall, the road and common may flood, but that's because it is a flood plain. The sandy soil of the common acts as natural drainage, unlike the London clay that the council are proposing to use to build up the level of the common. And the wall continues to the west far beyond the common, stretching past the yacht club, to half-way along Thorpe Bay gardens, so yes it will affect us when we're walking along the promenade.
[quote][p][bold]Shoebury Shrimper[/bold] wrote: Good news that this scheme was passed for approval. It has been so irritating listening to the ramblings of "Friends of Shoebury Common" who never showed any concern for those of us who live in the flood risk area. They were just interested in the views from their above sea level homes and the feelings of a handful of beach hut owners.Looking at the objections from FOSC on the Council's website it can be seen that over 90% of them do not even live in the at risk area! Their scaremongering has been to no avail. The wall will not affect those of us who regularly enjoy walking the promenade. The wall will be behind the beach huts on what is just a car park! The objectors would be quite happy to let flooding happen, have they not heard of climate change?[/p][/quote]Not sure which area of Shoebury you live in, but none of the existing properties appear to be at risk according to the council's map, apart from maybe the Shorehouse pub. Those properties most at risk are not yet built. If the sea were ever to overtop the wall, the road and common may flood, but that's because it is a flood plain. The sandy soil of the common acts as natural drainage, unlike the London clay that the council are proposing to use to build up the level of the common. And the wall continues to the west far beyond the common, stretching past the yacht club, to half-way along Thorpe Bay gardens, so yes it will affect us when we're walking along the promenade. gordonbennet
  • Score: 1

9:12pm Fri 11 Apr 14

shoess3 says...

Nowthatsworthknowing wrote:
pembury53 wrote:
will certainly look an eyesore, glad it's not outside my gaff.....
Shoebury has always been the parson's nose of South East Essex..
Not anymore, whether you like it or not. The houses around there are probably worth 10 times that of your Essex hole!
[quote][p][bold]Nowthatsworthknowing[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pembury53[/bold] wrote: will certainly look an eyesore, glad it's not outside my gaff.....[/p][/quote]Shoebury has always been the parson's nose of South East Essex..[/p][/quote]Not anymore, whether you like it or not. The houses around there are probably worth 10 times that of your Essex hole! shoess3
  • Score: 4

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