Tower block sniper arrested by police

Tower block sniper arrested by police

Tower block sniper arrested by police

First published in Echo News
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A TOWER BLOCK airgun sniper has left a woman needing surgery after shooting her in the back of the head.

The thug has been taking potshots at passers-by after setting up at the window of an apartment in Quantock flats, Chichester Road, Southend.

The culprit fired a series of rounds, embedding one pellet in the head of an unsuspecting 58-year-old woman.

A second victim, a man in his late forties to early fifties, was shot in the shoulder.

A scared passer-by ran into nearby Southend High Street, at about 2pm on Monday, to alert police who were on patrol.

They watched the building to find the trajectory of the shots, before moving in to arrest an 18-year-old man.

He was bailed until March 20 pending further enquiries.

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8:07am Thu 24 Jan 13

Sir Peter Pantsless the 3rd says...

This dole bludging benefit scrounging Jeremy Kyle watching doobie smoking scum shold be charged with attempted murder.

More proof that Southend is not a nice place to live anymore.
This dole bludging benefit scrounging Jeremy Kyle watching doobie smoking scum shold be charged with attempted murder. More proof that Southend is not a nice place to live anymore. Sir Peter Pantsless the 3rd
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8:12am Thu 24 Jan 13

echoforum says...

Sir Peter Pantsless the 3rd wrote:
This dole bludging benefit scrounging Jeremy Kyle watching doobie smoking scum shold be charged with attempted murder.

More proof that Southend is not a nice place to live anymore.
Good words!
I assume this scum will receive just a warning ,keep his weapon and continue to waste valuable oxygen.
[quote][p][bold]Sir Peter Pantsless the 3rd[/bold] wrote: This dole bludging benefit scrounging Jeremy Kyle watching doobie smoking scum shold be charged with attempted murder. More proof that Southend is not a nice place to live anymore.[/p][/quote]Good words! I assume this scum will receive just a warning ,keep his weapon and continue to waste valuable oxygen. echoforum
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8:14am Thu 24 Jan 13

apapa palm says...

and just wait till the bulgarians and romanians are allowed in !!!! Lord help us
and just wait till the bulgarians and romanians are allowed in !!!! Lord help us apapa palm
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8:16am Thu 24 Jan 13

Russ13 says...

Life sentence for attempted murder!

There's no mitigation for his actions, he deliberately set out to cause people harm.
Life sentence for attempted murder! There's no mitigation for his actions, he deliberately set out to cause people harm. Russ13
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8:26am Thu 24 Jan 13

pembury53 says...

Russ13 wrote:
Life sentence for attempted murder! There's no mitigation for his actions, he deliberately set out to cause people harm.
Airgun pellet in the eye, doesn't bare thinking about.......... I await the sentence with interest............
..
[quote][p][bold]Russ13[/bold] wrote: Life sentence for attempted murder! There's no mitigation for his actions, he deliberately set out to cause people harm.[/p][/quote]Airgun pellet in the eye, doesn't bare thinking about.......... I await the sentence with interest............ .. pembury53
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8:26am Thu 24 Jan 13

xenophobia says...

Could everyone stop getting shot!!
Could everyone stop getting shot!! xenophobia
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8:31am Thu 24 Jan 13

JuliaM says...

Should have just tossed the waste of oxygen off the roof of the block...
Should have just tossed the waste of oxygen off the roof of the block... JuliaM
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8:47am Thu 24 Jan 13

Rob777 says...

JuliaM wrote:
Should have just tossed the waste of oxygen off the roof of the block...
After reading Echos headline I suppose you cant be blamed entirely for your stupid comment.

"Tower block sniper arrested by police!!!"

If you read the full story you will see that "He was bailed until March 20 pending further enquiries." This suggests that its very possible they may have the wrong person & certainly to not currently have the evidence to charge him let alone get a conviction in court.

Yet you want to murder him ?
[quote][p][bold]JuliaM[/bold] wrote: Should have just tossed the waste of oxygen off the roof of the block...[/p][/quote]After reading Echos headline I suppose you cant be blamed entirely for your stupid comment. "Tower block sniper arrested by police!!!" If you read the full story you will see that "He was bailed until March 20 pending further enquiries." This suggests that its very possible they may have the wrong person & certainly to not currently have the evidence to charge him let alone get a conviction in court. Yet you want to murder him ? Rob777
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9:22am Thu 24 Jan 13

Shoebury_Cyclist says...

Sir Peter Pantsless the 3rd wrote:
This dole bludging benefit scrounging Jeremy Kyle watching doobie smoking scum shold be charged with attempted murder.

More proof that Southend is not a nice place to live anymore.
I don't see anything in the story that backs up your description. You wouldn't be inventing untruths would you?
[quote][p][bold]Sir Peter Pantsless the 3rd[/bold] wrote: This dole bludging benefit scrounging Jeremy Kyle watching doobie smoking scum shold be charged with attempted murder. More proof that Southend is not a nice place to live anymore.[/p][/quote]I don't see anything in the story that backs up your description. You wouldn't be inventing untruths would you? Shoebury_Cyclist
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9:24am Thu 24 Jan 13

factbeforefiction says...

to add a bit more yes what this person or persons did was terrible and very very stupied
but we all sit on here commenting on these storys acting like non of us have ever done anything wrong in our lifes but most of us if we r honest will have done something bad or nasty to some one else even if u think it was nothing
and as much as i read the echo unfortunatly the reporters do not get ther whole story and of course we read far to much in to the head line i mean tower bloke sniper it makes them sound like a terrorist
to add a bit more yes what this person or persons did was terrible and very very stupied but we all sit on here commenting on these storys acting like non of us have ever done anything wrong in our lifes but most of us if we r honest will have done something bad or nasty to some one else even if u think it was nothing and as much as i read the echo unfortunatly the reporters do not get ther whole story and of course we read far to much in to the head line i mean tower bloke sniper it makes them sound like a terrorist factbeforefiction
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9:28am Thu 24 Jan 13

factbeforefiction says...

what this person did or persons did is terrible
but we all sit here commenting and acting all innocent but im sure if we r honest most of us have done something nasty in our lifes to other pepole or had a brush with the law but we act like butter wouldnt melt
maybe we should wait before we hang pepole because funny enough the police and the press have got it wrong in the past once or twice
i truley hope both victims r ok and yes before u ask i have been shot once and stabbed so yes i do know how it feels .......
what this person did or persons did is terrible but we all sit here commenting and acting all innocent but im sure if we r honest most of us have done something nasty in our lifes to other pepole or had a brush with the law but we act like butter wouldnt melt maybe we should wait before we hang pepole because funny enough the police and the press have got it wrong in the past once or twice i truley hope both victims r ok and yes before u ask i have been shot once and stabbed so yes i do know how it feels ....... factbeforefiction
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9:56am Thu 24 Jan 13

Sir Peter Pantsless the 3rd says...

factbeforefiction wrote:
to add a bit more yes what this person or persons did was terrible and very very stupied
but we all sit on here commenting on these storys acting like non of us have ever done anything wrong in our lifes but most of us if we r honest will have done something bad or nasty to some one else even if u think it was nothing
and as much as i read the echo unfortunatly the reporters do not get ther whole story and of course we read far to much in to the head line i mean tower bloke sniper it makes them sound like a terrorist
Factbeforefiction, sounds to me like..

a) You want to confess to your sins maybe? (we're all friends here, you can trust us, we wont tell anyone)

b) Your making light of what this low life scum bag has done???
[quote][p][bold]factbeforefiction[/bold] wrote: to add a bit more yes what this person or persons did was terrible and very very stupied but we all sit on here commenting on these storys acting like non of us have ever done anything wrong in our lifes but most of us if we r honest will have done something bad or nasty to some one else even if u think it was nothing and as much as i read the echo unfortunatly the reporters do not get ther whole story and of course we read far to much in to the head line i mean tower bloke sniper it makes them sound like a terrorist[/p][/quote]Factbeforefiction, sounds to me like.. a) You want to confess to your sins maybe? (we're all friends here, you can trust us, we wont tell anyone) b) Your making light of what this low life scum bag has done??? Sir Peter Pantsless the 3rd
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10:12am Thu 24 Jan 13

factbeforefiction says...

Sir Peter Pantsless the 3rd wrote:
factbeforefiction wrote: to add a bit more yes what this person or persons did was terrible and very very stupied but we all sit on here commenting on these storys acting like non of us have ever done anything wrong in our lifes but most of us if we r honest will have done something bad or nasty to some one else even if u think it was nothing and as much as i read the echo unfortunatly the reporters do not get ther whole story and of course we read far to much in to the head line i mean tower bloke sniper it makes them sound like a terrorist
Factbeforefiction, sounds to me like.. a) You want to confess to your sins maybe? (we're all friends here, you can trust us, we wont tell anyone) b) Your making light of what this low life scum bag has done???
As I said what they did was terrible
But were u or any of us in the flat when it happened do know for sure the right person was arrested no u dont and nor do I so innocent before proven guilty and yes I've sinned and thank u for the offer of confession
[quote][p][bold]Sir Peter Pantsless the 3rd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]factbeforefiction[/bold] wrote: to add a bit more yes what this person or persons did was terrible and very very stupied but we all sit on here commenting on these storys acting like non of us have ever done anything wrong in our lifes but most of us if we r honest will have done something bad or nasty to some one else even if u think it was nothing and as much as i read the echo unfortunatly the reporters do not get ther whole story and of course we read far to much in to the head line i mean tower bloke sniper it makes them sound like a terrorist[/p][/quote]Factbeforefiction, sounds to me like.. a) You want to confess to your sins maybe? (we're all friends here, you can trust us, we wont tell anyone) b) Your making light of what this low life scum bag has done???[/p][/quote]As I said what they did was terrible But were u or any of us in the flat when it happened do know for sure the right person was arrested no u dont and nor do I so innocent before proven guilty and yes I've sinned and thank u for the offer of confession factbeforefiction
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11:07am Thu 24 Jan 13

Eric Whim says...

have they searched his flat for evidence and maybe turned up a laser pointer?
have they searched his flat for evidence and maybe turned up a laser pointer? Eric Whim
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11:09am Thu 24 Jan 13

Soouthchurch59 says...

Perhaps it would satisfy some to return to the days when he would be arrested, bashed and verballed-up; then slung in jail to await his day in court - for something he may not have done.

He's lucky not to have been shot dead!
Perhaps it would satisfy some to return to the days when he would be arrested, bashed and verballed-up; then slung in jail to await his day in court - for something he may not have done. He's lucky not to have been shot dead! Soouthchurch59
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11:52am Thu 24 Jan 13

Max Impact says...

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:
Sir Peter Pantsless the 3rd wrote:
This dole bludging benefit scrounging Jeremy Kyle watching doobie smoking scum shold be charged with attempted murder.

More proof that Southend is not a nice place to live anymore.
I don't see anything in the story that backs up your description. You wouldn't be inventing untruths would you?
Sheobury, I think Peter is still upset they cancelled Trisha!
[quote][p][bold]Shoebury_Cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sir Peter Pantsless the 3rd[/bold] wrote: This dole bludging benefit scrounging Jeremy Kyle watching doobie smoking scum shold be charged with attempted murder. More proof that Southend is not a nice place to live anymore.[/p][/quote]I don't see anything in the story that backs up your description. You wouldn't be inventing untruths would you?[/p][/quote]Sheobury, I think Peter is still upset they cancelled Trisha! Max Impact
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11:54am Thu 24 Jan 13

factbeforefiction says...

Soouthchurch59 wrote:
Perhaps it would satisfy some to return to the days when he would be arrested, bashed and verballed-up; then slung in jail to await his day in court - for something he may not have done. He's lucky not to have been shot dead!
I agree someone could of been
We r to quick judge and to slow to Listern
[quote][p][bold]Soouthchurch59[/bold] wrote: Perhaps it would satisfy some to return to the days when he would be arrested, bashed and verballed-up; then slung in jail to await his day in court - for something he may not have done. He's lucky not to have been shot dead![/p][/quote]I agree someone could of been We r to quick judge and to slow to Listern factbeforefiction
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11:54am Thu 24 Jan 13

jayman says...

I hope that the.

non-Tory voting, gay, illegal immigrant, father of twelve, benefit scrounging, dope smoking, work shy, gang running, Jeremy kyle watching, plasma/LCD 180" owning, sky subscripting, tracksuit wearing, (anything that I have missed?)

gets life in prison/hung by the neck for every crime that has ever happened, EVER!!!.

or perhaps we should stop acting like sun journalist and ask some deep questions about the reason why! a young man would feel the need to take pot shots at passers by.

I think it has a lot to do with the hopelessness of today becoming disenfranchised by the society they belong to and in becoming so 'detached' they lose the concept of consequence or lose the very concept of those around them and the environment in which they are in.

to add further clarity to the otherwise bizarre right-wing fest of snap opinions and comments.

mindless violence is an all to common problem that requires a receptive and dynamic solution.
I hope that the. non-Tory voting, gay, illegal immigrant, father of twelve, benefit scrounging, dope smoking, work shy, gang running, Jeremy kyle watching, plasma/LCD 180" owning, sky subscripting, tracksuit wearing, (anything that I have missed?) gets life in prison/hung by the neck for every crime that has ever happened, EVER!!!. or perhaps we should stop acting like sun journalist and ask some deep questions about the reason why! a young man would feel the need to take pot shots at passers by. I think it has a lot to do with the hopelessness of today becoming disenfranchised by the society they belong to and in becoming so 'detached' they lose the concept of consequence or lose the very concept of those around them and the environment in which they are in. to add further clarity to the otherwise bizarre right-wing fest of snap opinions and comments. mindless violence is an all to common problem that requires a receptive and dynamic solution. jayman
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12:01pm Thu 24 Jan 13

Eric Whim says...

Max Impact wrote:
Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:
Sir Peter Pantsless the 3rd wrote:
This dole bludging benefit scrounging Jeremy Kyle watching doobie smoking scum shold be charged with attempted murder.

More proof that Southend is not a nice place to live anymore.
I don't see anything in the story that backs up your description. You wouldn't be inventing untruths would you?
Sheobury, I think Peter is still upset they cancelled Trisha!
he's in luck then, they're bringing her back
[quote][p][bold]Max Impact[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoebury_Cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sir Peter Pantsless the 3rd[/bold] wrote: This dole bludging benefit scrounging Jeremy Kyle watching doobie smoking scum shold be charged with attempted murder. More proof that Southend is not a nice place to live anymore.[/p][/quote]I don't see anything in the story that backs up your description. You wouldn't be inventing untruths would you?[/p][/quote]Sheobury, I think Peter is still upset they cancelled Trisha![/p][/quote]he's in luck then, they're bringing her back Eric Whim
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12:18pm Thu 24 Jan 13

Ian P says...

jayman wrote:
I hope that the. non-Tory voting, gay, illegal immigrant, father of twelve, benefit scrounging, dope smoking, work shy, gang running, Jeremy kyle watching, plasma/LCD 180" owning, sky subscripting, tracksuit wearing, (anything that I have missed?) gets life in prison/hung by the neck for every crime that has ever happened, EVER!!!. or perhaps we should stop acting like sun journalist and ask some deep questions about the reason why! a young man would feel the need to take pot shots at passers by. I think it has a lot to do with the hopelessness of today becoming disenfranchised by the society they belong to and in becoming so 'detached' they lose the concept of consequence or lose the very concept of those around them and the environment in which they are in. to add further clarity to the otherwise bizarre right-wing fest of snap opinions and comments. mindless violence is an all to common problem that requires a receptive and dynamic solution.
I think the reason might be much simplier than your theory. He may just have heard the sound of a plane taking off from London Southend Airport and flipped.
[quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: I hope that the. non-Tory voting, gay, illegal immigrant, father of twelve, benefit scrounging, dope smoking, work shy, gang running, Jeremy kyle watching, plasma/LCD 180" owning, sky subscripting, tracksuit wearing, (anything that I have missed?) gets life in prison/hung by the neck for every crime that has ever happened, EVER!!!. or perhaps we should stop acting like sun journalist and ask some deep questions about the reason why! a young man would feel the need to take pot shots at passers by. I think it has a lot to do with the hopelessness of today becoming disenfranchised by the society they belong to and in becoming so 'detached' they lose the concept of consequence or lose the very concept of those around them and the environment in which they are in. to add further clarity to the otherwise bizarre right-wing fest of snap opinions and comments. mindless violence is an all to common problem that requires a receptive and dynamic solution.[/p][/quote]I think the reason might be much simplier than your theory. He may just have heard the sound of a plane taking off from London Southend Airport and flipped. Ian P
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12:20pm Thu 24 Jan 13

Russ13 says...

factbeforefiction wrote:
what this person did or persons did is terrible but we all sit here commenting and acting all innocent but im sure if we r honest most of us have done something nasty in our lifes to other pepole or had a brush with the law but we act like butter wouldnt melt maybe we should wait before we hang pepole because funny enough the police and the press have got it wrong in the past once or twice i truley hope both victims r ok and yes before u ask i have been shot once and stabbed so yes i do know how it feels .......
Are you for real!!!!!

Yes most of us have done things when we were younger that were not right or a little stupid.

Shooting people with an air riffle is waaaaaay beyond something that's not right or a little stupid.

As I said before, once the person that carried out these acts is caught, I hope they are prosecuted for attempted murder and spend many years in jail.

In case you didn't understand the word "mitigation", there is no excuse or reason as to why someone should fire a weapon at another person unless they're soldier, armed police officer or equally qualified/licensed official.
[quote][p][bold]factbeforefiction[/bold] wrote: what this person did or persons did is terrible but we all sit here commenting and acting all innocent but im sure if we r honest most of us have done something nasty in our lifes to other pepole or had a brush with the law but we act like butter wouldnt melt maybe we should wait before we hang pepole because funny enough the police and the press have got it wrong in the past once or twice i truley hope both victims r ok and yes before u ask i have been shot once and stabbed so yes i do know how it feels .......[/p][/quote]Are you for real!!!!! Yes most of us have done things when we were younger that were not right or a little stupid. Shooting people with an air riffle is waaaaaay beyond something that's not right or a little stupid. As I said before, once the person that carried out these acts is caught, I hope they are prosecuted for attempted murder and spend many years in jail. In case you didn't understand the word "mitigation", there is no excuse or reason as to why someone should fire a weapon at another person unless they're soldier, armed police officer or equally qualified/licensed official. Russ13
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12:23pm Thu 24 Jan 13

Rouge9 says...

Rob777 wrote:
JuliaM wrote: Should have just tossed the waste of oxygen off the roof of the block...
After reading Echos headline I suppose you cant be blamed entirely for your stupid comment. "Tower block sniper arrested by police!!!" If you read the full story you will see that "He was bailed until March 20 pending further enquiries." This suggests that its very possible they may have the wrong person & certainly to not currently have the evidence to charge him let alone get a conviction in court. Yet you want to murder him ?
You will find that anyone arrested (and they have reasonable suspicion to charge hence the arrest), then they are bailed, if not the same day then the next. The days of incarceration until trial are passed. Come the trial, or if other evidence comes to light, then they will see if they have the right person.
[quote][p][bold]Rob777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JuliaM[/bold] wrote: Should have just tossed the waste of oxygen off the roof of the block...[/p][/quote]After reading Echos headline I suppose you cant be blamed entirely for your stupid comment. "Tower block sniper arrested by police!!!" If you read the full story you will see that "He was bailed until March 20 pending further enquiries." This suggests that its very possible they may have the wrong person & certainly to not currently have the evidence to charge him let alone get a conviction in court. Yet you want to murder him ?[/p][/quote]You will find that anyone arrested (and they have reasonable suspicion to charge hence the arrest), then they are bailed, if not the same day then the next. The days of incarceration until trial are passed. Come the trial, or if other evidence comes to light, then they will see if they have the right person. Rouge9
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12:25pm Thu 24 Jan 13

JuliaM says...

jayman wrote:
I hope that the. non-Tory voting, gay, illegal immigrant, father of twelve, benefit scrounging, dope smoking, work shy, gang running, Jeremy kyle watching, plasma/LCD 180" owning, sky subscripting, tracksuit wearing, (anything that I have missed?) gets life in prison/hung by the neck for every crime that has ever happened, EVER!!!. or perhaps we should stop acting like sun journalist and ask some deep questions about the reason why! a young man would feel the need to take pot shots at passers by. I think it has a lot to do with the hopelessness of today becoming disenfranchised by the society they belong to and in becoming so 'detached' they lose the concept of consequence or lose the very concept of those around them and the environment in which they are in. to add further clarity to the otherwise bizarre right-wing fest of snap opinions and comments. mindless violence is an all to common problem that requires a receptive and dynamic solution.
I couldn't care less what excuses for his behaviour his publicly-funded defence lawyer will put in his mouth. They simply recycle the usual garbage anyway - unhappy childhood, ADHD, Aspergers, etc, etc, blah blah blah.

Though not a fan of John Major, the most intelligent thing he EVER said was 'We should understand a little less, and condemn a little more...'
[quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: I hope that the. non-Tory voting, gay, illegal immigrant, father of twelve, benefit scrounging, dope smoking, work shy, gang running, Jeremy kyle watching, plasma/LCD 180" owning, sky subscripting, tracksuit wearing, (anything that I have missed?) gets life in prison/hung by the neck for every crime that has ever happened, EVER!!!. or perhaps we should stop acting like sun journalist and ask some deep questions about the reason why! a young man would feel the need to take pot shots at passers by. I think it has a lot to do with the hopelessness of today becoming disenfranchised by the society they belong to and in becoming so 'detached' they lose the concept of consequence or lose the very concept of those around them and the environment in which they are in. to add further clarity to the otherwise bizarre right-wing fest of snap opinions and comments. mindless violence is an all to common problem that requires a receptive and dynamic solution.[/p][/quote]I couldn't care less what excuses for his behaviour his publicly-funded defence lawyer will put in his mouth. They simply recycle the usual garbage anyway - unhappy childhood, ADHD, Aspergers, etc, etc, blah blah blah. Though not a fan of John Major, the most intelligent thing he EVER said was 'We should understand a little less, and condemn a little more...' JuliaM
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12:31pm Thu 24 Jan 13

Essex Medja says...

jayman wrote:
I hope that the.

non-Tory voting, gay, illegal immigrant, father of twelve, benefit scrounging, dope smoking, work shy, gang running, Jeremy kyle watching, plasma/LCD 180" owning, sky subscripting, tracksuit wearing, (anything that I have missed?)

gets life in prison/hung by the neck for every crime that has ever happened, EVER!!!.

or perhaps we should stop acting like sun journalist and ask some deep questions about the reason why! a young man would feel the need to take pot shots at passers by.

I think it has a lot to do with the hopelessness of today becoming disenfranchised by the society they belong to and in becoming so 'detached' they lose the concept of consequence or lose the very concept of those around them and the environment in which they are in.

to add further clarity to the otherwise bizarre right-wing fest of snap opinions and comments.

mindless violence is an all to common problem that requires a receptive and dynamic solution.
Says the trained killer turned social worker who makes jokes about the Titanic.
.
Perhaps the perpetrator is just an evil liitle scrote who doesn't give **** about other people.
[quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: I hope that the. non-Tory voting, gay, illegal immigrant, father of twelve, benefit scrounging, dope smoking, work shy, gang running, Jeremy kyle watching, plasma/LCD 180" owning, sky subscripting, tracksuit wearing, (anything that I have missed?) gets life in prison/hung by the neck for every crime that has ever happened, EVER!!!. or perhaps we should stop acting like sun journalist and ask some deep questions about the reason why! a young man would feel the need to take pot shots at passers by. I think it has a lot to do with the hopelessness of today becoming disenfranchised by the society they belong to and in becoming so 'detached' they lose the concept of consequence or lose the very concept of those around them and the environment in which they are in. to add further clarity to the otherwise bizarre right-wing fest of snap opinions and comments. mindless violence is an all to common problem that requires a receptive and dynamic solution.[/p][/quote]Says the trained killer turned social worker who makes jokes about the Titanic. . Perhaps the perpetrator is just an evil liitle scrote who doesn't give **** about other people. Essex Medja
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12:33pm Thu 24 Jan 13

jayman says...

Ian P wrote:
jayman wrote:
I hope that the. non-Tory voting, gay, illegal immigrant, father of twelve, benefit scrounging, dope smoking, work shy, gang running, Jeremy kyle watching, plasma/LCD 180" owning, sky subscripting, tracksuit wearing, (anything that I have missed?) gets life in prison/hung by the neck for every crime that has ever happened, EVER!!!. or perhaps we should stop acting like sun journalist and ask some deep questions about the reason why! a young man would feel the need to take pot shots at passers by. I think it has a lot to do with the hopelessness of today becoming disenfranchised by the society they belong to and in becoming so 'detached' they lose the concept of consequence or lose the very concept of those around them and the environment in which they are in. to add further clarity to the otherwise bizarre right-wing fest of snap opinions and comments. mindless violence is an all to common problem that requires a receptive and dynamic solution.
I think the reason might be much simplier than your theory. He may just have heard the sound of a plane taking off from London Southend Airport and flipped.
what an eloquent and well thought out response.

I am astounded by deeply analytical approach to the subject matter to which is can see you have spent a great amount of painstaking time over.

I admire the thought provoking imagery and the emphatic, descriptive style in which you have conveyed your wealth of understanding which has been delivered well within the context of your reply.

thank you.
[quote][p][bold]Ian P[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: I hope that the. non-Tory voting, gay, illegal immigrant, father of twelve, benefit scrounging, dope smoking, work shy, gang running, Jeremy kyle watching, plasma/LCD 180" owning, sky subscripting, tracksuit wearing, (anything that I have missed?) gets life in prison/hung by the neck for every crime that has ever happened, EVER!!!. or perhaps we should stop acting like sun journalist and ask some deep questions about the reason why! a young man would feel the need to take pot shots at passers by. I think it has a lot to do with the hopelessness of today becoming disenfranchised by the society they belong to and in becoming so 'detached' they lose the concept of consequence or lose the very concept of those around them and the environment in which they are in. to add further clarity to the otherwise bizarre right-wing fest of snap opinions and comments. mindless violence is an all to common problem that requires a receptive and dynamic solution.[/p][/quote]I think the reason might be much simplier than your theory. He may just have heard the sound of a plane taking off from London Southend Airport and flipped.[/p][/quote]what an eloquent and well thought out response. I am astounded by deeply analytical approach to the subject matter to which is can see you have spent a great amount of painstaking time over. I admire the thought provoking imagery and the emphatic, descriptive style in which you have conveyed your wealth of understanding which has been delivered well within the context of your reply. thank you. jayman
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12:42pm Thu 24 Jan 13

jayman says...

Essex Medja wrote:
jayman wrote:
I hope that the.

non-Tory voting, gay, illegal immigrant, father of twelve, benefit scrounging, dope smoking, work shy, gang running, Jeremy kyle watching, plasma/LCD 180" owning, sky subscripting, tracksuit wearing, (anything that I have missed?)

gets life in prison/hung by the neck for every crime that has ever happened, EVER!!!.

or perhaps we should stop acting like sun journalist and ask some deep questions about the reason why! a young man would feel the need to take pot shots at passers by.

I think it has a lot to do with the hopelessness of today becoming disenfranchised by the society they belong to and in becoming so 'detached' they lose the concept of consequence or lose the very concept of those around them and the environment in which they are in.

to add further clarity to the otherwise bizarre right-wing fest of snap opinions and comments.

mindless violence is an all to common problem that requires a receptive and dynamic solution.
Says the trained killer turned social worker who makes jokes about the Titanic.
.
Perhaps the perpetrator is just an evil liitle scrote who doesn't give **** about other people.
1) the titanic sinking. a tragedy that occurred in the middle of the Atlantic over a hundred years ago.

2) A present day act of random violence to which is all too common throughout western societies and the UK as a whole. An event which directly affects/has effected the lives of those in the proximity to where I live which is occurring in the here and now.

please try to add clarity as to why 1 and 2 are in any way connected.

in addition I'm not a social worker, though I do work in mental health..
[quote][p][bold]Essex Medja[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: I hope that the. non-Tory voting, gay, illegal immigrant, father of twelve, benefit scrounging, dope smoking, work shy, gang running, Jeremy kyle watching, plasma/LCD 180" owning, sky subscripting, tracksuit wearing, (anything that I have missed?) gets life in prison/hung by the neck for every crime that has ever happened, EVER!!!. or perhaps we should stop acting like sun journalist and ask some deep questions about the reason why! a young man would feel the need to take pot shots at passers by. I think it has a lot to do with the hopelessness of today becoming disenfranchised by the society they belong to and in becoming so 'detached' they lose the concept of consequence or lose the very concept of those around them and the environment in which they are in. to add further clarity to the otherwise bizarre right-wing fest of snap opinions and comments. mindless violence is an all to common problem that requires a receptive and dynamic solution.[/p][/quote]Says the trained killer turned social worker who makes jokes about the Titanic. . Perhaps the perpetrator is just an evil liitle scrote who doesn't give **** about other people.[/p][/quote]1) the titanic sinking. a tragedy that occurred in the middle of the Atlantic over a hundred years ago. 2) A present day act of random violence to which is all too common throughout western societies and the UK as a whole. An event which directly affects/has effected the lives of those in the proximity to where I live which is occurring in the here and now. please try to add clarity as to why 1 and 2 are in any way connected. in addition I'm not a social worker, though I do work in mental health.. jayman
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12:42pm Thu 24 Jan 13

factbeforefiction says...

JuliaM wrote:
jayman wrote: I hope that the. non-Tory voting, gay, illegal immigrant, father of twelve, benefit scrounging, dope smoking, work shy, gang running, Jeremy kyle watching, plasma/LCD 180" owning, sky subscripting, tracksuit wearing, (anything that I have missed?) gets life in prison/hung by the neck for every crime that has ever happened, EVER!!!. or perhaps we should stop acting like sun journalist and ask some deep questions about the reason why! a young man would feel the need to take pot shots at passers by. I think it has a lot to do with the hopelessness of today becoming disenfranchised by the society they belong to and in becoming so 'detached' they lose the concept of consequence or lose the very concept of those around them and the environment in which they are in. to add further clarity to the otherwise bizarre right-wing fest of snap opinions and comments. mindless violence is an all to common problem that requires a receptive and dynamic solution.
I couldn't care less what excuses for his behaviour his publicly-funded defence lawyer will put in his mouth. They simply recycle the usual garbage anyway - unhappy childhood, ADHD, Aspergers, etc, etc, blah blah blah. Though not a fan of John Major, the most intelligent thing he EVER said was 'We should understand a little less, and condemn a little more...'
If u have a child or adult with ADHD or other mental health issues then I understand your comment but if u dont and god forbid u ever do plz try to be a little more understanding coz until u have lived with and cared for a person with these issues u cant even begin to understand
[quote][p][bold]JuliaM[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: I hope that the. non-Tory voting, gay, illegal immigrant, father of twelve, benefit scrounging, dope smoking, work shy, gang running, Jeremy kyle watching, plasma/LCD 180" owning, sky subscripting, tracksuit wearing, (anything that I have missed?) gets life in prison/hung by the neck for every crime that has ever happened, EVER!!!. or perhaps we should stop acting like sun journalist and ask some deep questions about the reason why! a young man would feel the need to take pot shots at passers by. I think it has a lot to do with the hopelessness of today becoming disenfranchised by the society they belong to and in becoming so 'detached' they lose the concept of consequence or lose the very concept of those around them and the environment in which they are in. to add further clarity to the otherwise bizarre right-wing fest of snap opinions and comments. mindless violence is an all to common problem that requires a receptive and dynamic solution.[/p][/quote]I couldn't care less what excuses for his behaviour his publicly-funded defence lawyer will put in his mouth. They simply recycle the usual garbage anyway - unhappy childhood, ADHD, Aspergers, etc, etc, blah blah blah. Though not a fan of John Major, the most intelligent thing he EVER said was 'We should understand a little less, and condemn a little more...'[/p][/quote]If u have a child or adult with ADHD or other mental health issues then I understand your comment but if u dont and god forbid u ever do plz try to be a little more understanding coz until u have lived with and cared for a person with these issues u cant even begin to understand factbeforefiction
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12:47pm Thu 24 Jan 13

smiffy1980 says...

JuliaM wrote:
jayman wrote: I hope that the. non-Tory voting, gay, illegal immigrant, father of twelve, benefit scrounging, dope smoking, work shy, gang running, Jeremy kyle watching, plasma/LCD 180" owning, sky subscripting, tracksuit wearing, (anything that I have missed?) gets life in prison/hung by the neck for every crime that has ever happened, EVER!!!. or perhaps we should stop acting like sun journalist and ask some deep questions about the reason why! a young man would feel the need to take pot shots at passers by. I think it has a lot to do with the hopelessness of today becoming disenfranchised by the society they belong to and in becoming so 'detached' they lose the concept of consequence or lose the very concept of those around them and the environment in which they are in. to add further clarity to the otherwise bizarre right-wing fest of snap opinions and comments. mindless violence is an all to common problem that requires a receptive and dynamic solution.
I couldn't care less what excuses for his behaviour his publicly-funded defence lawyer will put in his mouth. They simply recycle the usual garbage anyway - unhappy childhood, ADHD, Aspergers, etc, etc, blah blah blah. Though not a fan of John Major, the most intelligent thing he EVER said was 'We should understand a little less, and condemn a little more...'
you truely are an idiot and clearly have no understanding of conditions such as ADHD or Aspergers, or you would not of commented as you did.

Your comments aside, the person responsible for this should either be jailed for a long period or be given the medical help/sectioned for the good of the public.
[quote][p][bold]JuliaM[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: I hope that the. non-Tory voting, gay, illegal immigrant, father of twelve, benefit scrounging, dope smoking, work shy, gang running, Jeremy kyle watching, plasma/LCD 180" owning, sky subscripting, tracksuit wearing, (anything that I have missed?) gets life in prison/hung by the neck for every crime that has ever happened, EVER!!!. or perhaps we should stop acting like sun journalist and ask some deep questions about the reason why! a young man would feel the need to take pot shots at passers by. I think it has a lot to do with the hopelessness of today becoming disenfranchised by the society they belong to and in becoming so 'detached' they lose the concept of consequence or lose the very concept of those around them and the environment in which they are in. to add further clarity to the otherwise bizarre right-wing fest of snap opinions and comments. mindless violence is an all to common problem that requires a receptive and dynamic solution.[/p][/quote]I couldn't care less what excuses for his behaviour his publicly-funded defence lawyer will put in his mouth. They simply recycle the usual garbage anyway - unhappy childhood, ADHD, Aspergers, etc, etc, blah blah blah. Though not a fan of John Major, the most intelligent thing he EVER said was 'We should understand a little less, and condemn a little more...'[/p][/quote]you truely are an idiot and clearly have no understanding of conditions such as ADHD or Aspergers, or you would not of commented as you did. Your comments aside, the person responsible for this should either be jailed for a long period or be given the medical help/sectioned for the good of the public. smiffy1980
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12:54pm Thu 24 Jan 13

jayman says...

JuliaM wrote:
jayman wrote:
I hope that the. non-Tory voting, gay, illegal immigrant, father of twelve, benefit scrounging, dope smoking, work shy, gang running, Jeremy kyle watching, plasma/LCD 180" owning, sky subscripting, tracksuit wearing, (anything that I have missed?) gets life in prison/hung by the neck for every crime that has ever happened, EVER!!!. or perhaps we should stop acting like sun journalist and ask some deep questions about the reason why! a young man would feel the need to take pot shots at passers by. I think it has a lot to do with the hopelessness of today becoming disenfranchised by the society they belong to and in becoming so 'detached' they lose the concept of consequence or lose the very concept of those around them and the environment in which they are in. to add further clarity to the otherwise bizarre right-wing fest of snap opinions and comments. mindless violence is an all to common problem that requires a receptive and dynamic solution.
I couldn't care less what excuses for his behaviour his publicly-funded defence lawyer will put in his mouth. They simply recycle the usual garbage anyway - unhappy childhood, ADHD, Aspergers, etc, etc, blah blah blah.

Though not a fan of John Major, the most intelligent thing he EVER said was 'We should understand a little less, and condemn a little more...'
well, i wish you well on your voyage of 'understanding less and condemning more'

Just be advised that in doing so your world will become smaller, your actions will be less sophisticated. In being so entrenched in the practice of condemnation 'to focus a great deal of time and effort in the practice of hate' you will in turn be condemned for your actions and you or the ideology that you support which facilitates the act of condemnation, will become a greater and more absolute horror!..
[quote][p][bold]JuliaM[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: I hope that the. non-Tory voting, gay, illegal immigrant, father of twelve, benefit scrounging, dope smoking, work shy, gang running, Jeremy kyle watching, plasma/LCD 180" owning, sky subscripting, tracksuit wearing, (anything that I have missed?) gets life in prison/hung by the neck for every crime that has ever happened, EVER!!!. or perhaps we should stop acting like sun journalist and ask some deep questions about the reason why! a young man would feel the need to take pot shots at passers by. I think it has a lot to do with the hopelessness of today becoming disenfranchised by the society they belong to and in becoming so 'detached' they lose the concept of consequence or lose the very concept of those around them and the environment in which they are in. to add further clarity to the otherwise bizarre right-wing fest of snap opinions and comments. mindless violence is an all to common problem that requires a receptive and dynamic solution.[/p][/quote]I couldn't care less what excuses for his behaviour his publicly-funded defence lawyer will put in his mouth. They simply recycle the usual garbage anyway - unhappy childhood, ADHD, Aspergers, etc, etc, blah blah blah. Though not a fan of John Major, the most intelligent thing he EVER said was 'We should understand a little less, and condemn a little more...'[/p][/quote]well, i wish you well on your voyage of 'understanding less and condemning more' Just be advised that in doing so your world will become smaller, your actions will be less sophisticated. In being so entrenched in the practice of condemnation 'to focus a great deal of time and effort in the practice of hate' you will in turn be condemned for your actions and you or the ideology that you support which facilitates the act of condemnation, will become a greater and more absolute horror!.. jayman
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12:58pm Thu 24 Jan 13

Shoebury_Cyclist says...

Eric Whim wrote:
have they searched his flat for evidence and maybe turned up a laser pointer?
Or perhaps, oh I dunno, an air rifle?
[quote][p][bold]Eric Whim[/bold] wrote: have they searched his flat for evidence and maybe turned up a laser pointer?[/p][/quote]Or perhaps, oh I dunno, an air rifle? Shoebury_Cyclist
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1:00pm Thu 24 Jan 13

Shoebury_Cyclist says...

JuliaM wrote:
jayman wrote:
I hope that the. non-Tory voting, gay, illegal immigrant, father of twelve, benefit scrounging, dope smoking, work shy, gang running, Jeremy kyle watching, plasma/LCD 180" owning, sky subscripting, tracksuit wearing, (anything that I have missed?) gets life in prison/hung by the neck for every crime that has ever happened, EVER!!!. or perhaps we should stop acting like sun journalist and ask some deep questions about the reason why! a young man would feel the need to take pot shots at passers by. I think it has a lot to do with the hopelessness of today becoming disenfranchised by the society they belong to and in becoming so 'detached' they lose the concept of consequence or lose the very concept of those around them and the environment in which they are in. to add further clarity to the otherwise bizarre right-wing fest of snap opinions and comments. mindless violence is an all to common problem that requires a receptive and dynamic solution.
I couldn't care less what excuses for his behaviour his publicly-funded defence lawyer will put in his mouth. They simply recycle the usual garbage anyway - unhappy childhood, ADHD, Aspergers, etc, etc, blah blah blah.

Though not a fan of John Major, the most intelligent thing he EVER said was 'We should understand a little less, and condemn a little more...'
Hmm… http://searchingeyes
.files.wordpress.com
/2012/05/4254856_700
b_v11.jpg
[quote][p][bold]JuliaM[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: I hope that the. non-Tory voting, gay, illegal immigrant, father of twelve, benefit scrounging, dope smoking, work shy, gang running, Jeremy kyle watching, plasma/LCD 180" owning, sky subscripting, tracksuit wearing, (anything that I have missed?) gets life in prison/hung by the neck for every crime that has ever happened, EVER!!!. or perhaps we should stop acting like sun journalist and ask some deep questions about the reason why! a young man would feel the need to take pot shots at passers by. I think it has a lot to do with the hopelessness of today becoming disenfranchised by the society they belong to and in becoming so 'detached' they lose the concept of consequence or lose the very concept of those around them and the environment in which they are in. to add further clarity to the otherwise bizarre right-wing fest of snap opinions and comments. mindless violence is an all to common problem that requires a receptive and dynamic solution.[/p][/quote]I couldn't care less what excuses for his behaviour his publicly-funded defence lawyer will put in his mouth. They simply recycle the usual garbage anyway - unhappy childhood, ADHD, Aspergers, etc, etc, blah blah blah. Though not a fan of John Major, the most intelligent thing he EVER said was 'We should understand a little less, and condemn a little more...'[/p][/quote]Hmm… http://searchingeyes .files.wordpress.com /2012/05/4254856_700 b_v11.jpg Shoebury_Cyclist
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1:04pm Thu 24 Jan 13

RobertFS says...

factbeforefiction wrote:
Soouthchurch59 wrote: Perhaps it would satisfy some to return to the days when he would be arrested, bashed and verballed-up; then slung in jail to await his day in court - for something he may not have done. He's lucky not to have been shot dead!
I agree someone could of been We r to quick judge and to slow to Listern
Have you tried putting this in english?
[quote][p][bold]factbeforefiction[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Soouthchurch59[/bold] wrote: Perhaps it would satisfy some to return to the days when he would be arrested, bashed and verballed-up; then slung in jail to await his day in court - for something he may not have done. He's lucky not to have been shot dead![/p][/quote]I agree someone could of been We r to quick judge and to slow to Listern[/p][/quote]Have you tried putting this in english? RobertFS
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1:05pm Thu 24 Jan 13

Alekhine says...

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:
Eric Whim wrote: have they searched his flat for evidence and maybe turned up a laser pointer?
Or perhaps, oh I dunno, an air rifle?
Or an X-box gears of war (sniper edition).
[quote][p][bold]Shoebury_Cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eric Whim[/bold] wrote: have they searched his flat for evidence and maybe turned up a laser pointer?[/p][/quote]Or perhaps, oh I dunno, an air rifle?[/p][/quote]Or an X-box gears of war (sniper edition). Alekhine
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1:13pm Thu 24 Jan 13

Essex Medja says...

jayman wrote:
Essex Medja wrote:
jayman wrote:
I hope that the.

non-Tory voting, gay, illegal immigrant, father of twelve, benefit scrounging, dope smoking, work shy, gang running, Jeremy kyle watching, plasma/LCD 180" owning, sky subscripting, tracksuit wearing, (anything that I have missed?)

gets life in prison/hung by the neck for every crime that has ever happened, EVER!!!.

or perhaps we should stop acting like sun journalist and ask some deep questions about the reason why! a young man would feel the need to take pot shots at passers by.

I think it has a lot to do with the hopelessness of today becoming disenfranchised by the society they belong to and in becoming so 'detached' they lose the concept of consequence or lose the very concept of those around them and the environment in which they are in.

to add further clarity to the otherwise bizarre right-wing fest of snap opinions and comments.

mindless violence is an all to common problem that requires a receptive and dynamic solution.
Says the trained killer turned social worker who makes jokes about the Titanic.
.
Perhaps the perpetrator is just an evil liitle scrote who doesn't give **** about other people.
1) the titanic sinking. a tragedy that occurred in the middle of the Atlantic over a hundred years ago.

2) A present day act of random violence to which is all too common throughout western societies and the UK as a whole. An event which directly affects/has effected the lives of those in the proximity to where I live which is occurring in the here and now.

please try to add clarity as to why 1 and 2 are in any way connected.

in addition I'm not a social worker, though I do work in mental health..
In a previous post you showed a lack of respect for human life. You now are trying to justify why this scrote has a similar mindeset which he has put into action.
[quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Essex Medja[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: I hope that the. non-Tory voting, gay, illegal immigrant, father of twelve, benefit scrounging, dope smoking, work shy, gang running, Jeremy kyle watching, plasma/LCD 180" owning, sky subscripting, tracksuit wearing, (anything that I have missed?) gets life in prison/hung by the neck for every crime that has ever happened, EVER!!!. or perhaps we should stop acting like sun journalist and ask some deep questions about the reason why! a young man would feel the need to take pot shots at passers by. I think it has a lot to do with the hopelessness of today becoming disenfranchised by the society they belong to and in becoming so 'detached' they lose the concept of consequence or lose the very concept of those around them and the environment in which they are in. to add further clarity to the otherwise bizarre right-wing fest of snap opinions and comments. mindless violence is an all to common problem that requires a receptive and dynamic solution.[/p][/quote]Says the trained killer turned social worker who makes jokes about the Titanic. . Perhaps the perpetrator is just an evil liitle scrote who doesn't give **** about other people.[/p][/quote]1) the titanic sinking. a tragedy that occurred in the middle of the Atlantic over a hundred years ago. 2) A present day act of random violence to which is all too common throughout western societies and the UK as a whole. An event which directly affects/has effected the lives of those in the proximity to where I live which is occurring in the here and now. please try to add clarity as to why 1 and 2 are in any way connected. in addition I'm not a social worker, though I do work in mental health..[/p][/quote]In a previous post you showed a lack of respect for human life. You now are trying to justify why this scrote has a similar mindeset which he has put into action. Essex Medja
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1:14pm Thu 24 Jan 13

jayman says...

JuliaM wrote:
jayman wrote:
I hope that the. non-Tory voting, gay, illegal immigrant, father of twelve, benefit scrounging, dope smoking, work shy, gang running, Jeremy kyle watching, plasma/LCD 180" owning, sky subscripting, tracksuit wearing, (anything that I have missed?) gets life in prison/hung by the neck for every crime that has ever happened, EVER!!!. or perhaps we should stop acting like sun journalist and ask some deep questions about the reason why! a young man would feel the need to take pot shots at passers by. I think it has a lot to do with the hopelessness of today becoming disenfranchised by the society they belong to and in becoming so 'detached' they lose the concept of consequence or lose the very concept of those around them and the environment in which they are in. to add further clarity to the otherwise bizarre right-wing fest of snap opinions and comments. mindless violence is an all to common problem that requires a receptive and dynamic solution.
I couldn't care less what excuses for his behaviour his publicly-funded defence lawyer will put in his mouth. They simply recycle the usual garbage anyway - unhappy childhood, ADHD, Aspergers, etc, etc, blah blah blah.

Though not a fan of John Major, the most intelligent thing he EVER said was 'We should understand a little less, and condemn a little more...'
i think JuliaM is a massive right wing/Tory sycophant with an internet connection and a ton of awful views and opinions.

http://thylacosmilus
.blogspot.co.uk/

she feeds off the energy that you produce in 'common sense based' fare minded comments and replies..
[quote][p][bold]JuliaM[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: I hope that the. non-Tory voting, gay, illegal immigrant, father of twelve, benefit scrounging, dope smoking, work shy, gang running, Jeremy kyle watching, plasma/LCD 180" owning, sky subscripting, tracksuit wearing, (anything that I have missed?) gets life in prison/hung by the neck for every crime that has ever happened, EVER!!!. or perhaps we should stop acting like sun journalist and ask some deep questions about the reason why! a young man would feel the need to take pot shots at passers by. I think it has a lot to do with the hopelessness of today becoming disenfranchised by the society they belong to and in becoming so 'detached' they lose the concept of consequence or lose the very concept of those around them and the environment in which they are in. to add further clarity to the otherwise bizarre right-wing fest of snap opinions and comments. mindless violence is an all to common problem that requires a receptive and dynamic solution.[/p][/quote]I couldn't care less what excuses for his behaviour his publicly-funded defence lawyer will put in his mouth. They simply recycle the usual garbage anyway - unhappy childhood, ADHD, Aspergers, etc, etc, blah blah blah. Though not a fan of John Major, the most intelligent thing he EVER said was 'We should understand a little less, and condemn a little more...'[/p][/quote]i think JuliaM is a massive right wing/Tory sycophant with an internet connection and a ton of awful views and opinions. http://thylacosmilus .blogspot.co.uk/ she feeds off the energy that you produce in 'common sense based' fare minded comments and replies.. jayman
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1:22pm Thu 24 Jan 13

jayman says...

Essex Medja wrote:
jayman wrote:
Essex Medja wrote:
jayman wrote:
I hope that the.

non-Tory voting, gay, illegal immigrant, father of twelve, benefit scrounging, dope smoking, work shy, gang running, Jeremy kyle watching, plasma/LCD 180" owning, sky subscripting, tracksuit wearing, (anything that I have missed?)

gets life in prison/hung by the neck for every crime that has ever happened, EVER!!!.

or perhaps we should stop acting like sun journalist and ask some deep questions about the reason why! a young man would feel the need to take pot shots at passers by.

I think it has a lot to do with the hopelessness of today becoming disenfranchised by the society they belong to and in becoming so 'detached' they lose the concept of consequence or lose the very concept of those around them and the environment in which they are in.

to add further clarity to the otherwise bizarre right-wing fest of snap opinions and comments.

mindless violence is an all to common problem that requires a receptive and dynamic solution.
Says the trained killer turned social worker who makes jokes about the Titanic.
.
Perhaps the perpetrator is just an evil liitle scrote who doesn't give **** about other people.
1) the titanic sinking. a tragedy that occurred in the middle of the Atlantic over a hundred years ago.

2) A present day act of random violence to which is all too common throughout western societies and the UK as a whole. An event which directly affects/has effected the lives of those in the proximity to where I live which is occurring in the here and now.

please try to add clarity as to why 1 and 2 are in any way connected.

in addition I'm not a social worker, though I do work in mental health..
In a previous post you showed a lack of respect for human life. You now are trying to justify why this scrote has a similar mindeset which he has put into action.
no I did not, and no I'm not.

if you actually took the time to understand satire and humour you would have the opinion that the account I gave of the titanic sinking was purposefully 'historically incorrect' and i did not mention the sinking of the titanic I only mentioned the ship as a devise to describe what Southends closed Tory Cabinet are doing to the town.

and I am in no way defending the actions of the individual who is accused of shooting passers by. I am merely considering the wider social decay of our country and asking people to think about this is a broader context.
[quote][p][bold]Essex Medja[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Essex Medja[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: I hope that the. non-Tory voting, gay, illegal immigrant, father of twelve, benefit scrounging, dope smoking, work shy, gang running, Jeremy kyle watching, plasma/LCD 180" owning, sky subscripting, tracksuit wearing, (anything that I have missed?) gets life in prison/hung by the neck for every crime that has ever happened, EVER!!!. or perhaps we should stop acting like sun journalist and ask some deep questions about the reason why! a young man would feel the need to take pot shots at passers by. I think it has a lot to do with the hopelessness of today becoming disenfranchised by the society they belong to and in becoming so 'detached' they lose the concept of consequence or lose the very concept of those around them and the environment in which they are in. to add further clarity to the otherwise bizarre right-wing fest of snap opinions and comments. mindless violence is an all to common problem that requires a receptive and dynamic solution.[/p][/quote]Says the trained killer turned social worker who makes jokes about the Titanic. . Perhaps the perpetrator is just an evil liitle scrote who doesn't give **** about other people.[/p][/quote]1) the titanic sinking. a tragedy that occurred in the middle of the Atlantic over a hundred years ago. 2) A present day act of random violence to which is all too common throughout western societies and the UK as a whole. An event which directly affects/has effected the lives of those in the proximity to where I live which is occurring in the here and now. please try to add clarity as to why 1 and 2 are in any way connected. in addition I'm not a social worker, though I do work in mental health..[/p][/quote]In a previous post you showed a lack of respect for human life. You now are trying to justify why this scrote has a similar mindeset which he has put into action.[/p][/quote]no I did not, and no I'm not. if you actually took the time to understand satire and humour you would have the opinion that the account I gave of the titanic sinking was purposefully 'historically incorrect' and i did not mention the sinking of the titanic I only mentioned the ship as a devise to describe what Southends closed Tory Cabinet are doing to the town. and I am in no way defending the actions of the individual who is accused of shooting passers by. I am merely considering the wider social decay of our country and asking people to think about this is a broader context. jayman
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1:42pm Thu 24 Jan 13

Sir Peter Pantsless the 3rd says...

I am in shock how many people here seam to be making excuses for this evil scumbag.
.
It makes me wonder what other atrocities, acts of evil, etc you people sympathise with???
.
People like you are the reason this country's society is failing.
.
What he did was wrong and he must be punished to the full extent of the law (no doubt a £5 victim surcharge and 3 hours communtiy service)
I am in shock how many people here seam to be making excuses for this evil scumbag. . It makes me wonder what other atrocities, acts of evil, etc you people sympathise with??? . People like you are the reason this country's society is failing. . What he did was wrong and he must be punished to the full extent of the law (no doubt a £5 victim surcharge and 3 hours communtiy service) Sir Peter Pantsless the 3rd
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1:55pm Thu 24 Jan 13

Rob777 says...

Rouge9 wrote:
Rob777 wrote:
JuliaM wrote: Should have just tossed the waste of oxygen off the roof of the block...
After reading Echos headline I suppose you cant be blamed entirely for your stupid comment. "Tower block sniper arrested by police!!!" If you read the full story you will see that "He was bailed until March 20 pending further enquiries." This suggests that its very possible they may have the wrong person & certainly to not currently have the evidence to charge him let alone get a conviction in court. Yet you want to murder him ?
You will find that anyone arrested (and they have reasonable suspicion to charge hence the arrest), then they are bailed, if not the same day then the next. The days of incarceration until trial are passed. Come the trial, or if other evidence comes to light, then they will see if they have the right person.
Sorry Rouge but you may be missing the point,

"He was bailed until March 20 pending further enquiries"

There quite simple is no trail due at the moment.

Which basically states (I admit not clearly) that he has NOT been charged, they have bailed him in the hope that they can find evidence strong enough to charge him in the mean time OR they have the wrong guy and dont want to lose face so are going to drag it out until March & then quietly press no charges.

Also there is still incarceration until trail its called remand. & in many cases especially for instance in the interests of "public safety" the suspect will be remanded. I would like to think that a "Tower block snipper" would be deemed a danger to the public and therefore be remanded if a) the story have not been blow out of proportion by the echo or b) they have evidence that he was the guilty man.
[quote][p][bold]Rouge9[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rob777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JuliaM[/bold] wrote: Should have just tossed the waste of oxygen off the roof of the block...[/p][/quote]After reading Echos headline I suppose you cant be blamed entirely for your stupid comment. "Tower block sniper arrested by police!!!" If you read the full story you will see that "He was bailed until March 20 pending further enquiries." This suggests that its very possible they may have the wrong person & certainly to not currently have the evidence to charge him let alone get a conviction in court. Yet you want to murder him ?[/p][/quote]You will find that anyone arrested (and they have reasonable suspicion to charge hence the arrest), then they are bailed, if not the same day then the next. The days of incarceration until trial are passed. Come the trial, or if other evidence comes to light, then they will see if they have the right person.[/p][/quote]Sorry Rouge but you may be missing the point, "He was bailed until March 20 pending further enquiries" There quite simple is no trail due at the moment. Which basically states (I admit not clearly) that he has NOT been charged, they have bailed him in the hope that they can find evidence strong enough to charge him in the mean time OR they have the wrong guy and dont want to lose face so are going to drag it out until March & then quietly press no charges. Also there is still incarceration until trail its called remand. & in many cases especially for instance in the interests of "public safety" the suspect will be remanded. I would like to think that a "Tower block snipper" would be deemed a danger to the public and therefore be remanded if a) the story have not been blow out of proportion by the echo or b) they have evidence that he was the guilty man. Rob777
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2:00pm Thu 24 Jan 13

factbeforefiction says...

Sir Peter Pantsless the 3rd wrote:
I am in shock how many people here seam to be making excuses for this evil scumbag. . It makes me wonder what other atrocities, acts of evil, etc you people sympathise with??? . People like you are the reason this country's society is failing. . What he did was wrong and he must be punished to the full extent of the law (no doubt a £5 victim surcharge and 3 hours communtiy service)
I dont think anyone is saying what happened is ok or. Who did it should not be punished I think and hope that what we r saying is that non of us know the whole story and that we should with hold judgement .if I remember there was a lady a few Christmases ago who was murdered and the police arreseted her landlords and because he looked a bit different everyone said he had to be guilty and he was ripped to pieces by the press and the public and then it turns out he had nothing to do with it ..and what dont help with society today is the public who judge every thing and every one by what they read and what they hear or by the colour of skin or because someone isdifferent. Maybe some people should get out of there little Bubble and get some understanding
[quote][p][bold]Sir Peter Pantsless the 3rd[/bold] wrote: I am in shock how many people here seam to be making excuses for this evil scumbag. . It makes me wonder what other atrocities, acts of evil, etc you people sympathise with??? . People like you are the reason this country's society is failing. . What he did was wrong and he must be punished to the full extent of the law (no doubt a £5 victim surcharge and 3 hours communtiy service)[/p][/quote]I dont think anyone is saying what happened is ok or. Who did it should not be punished I think and hope that what we r saying is that non of us know the whole story and that we should with hold judgement .if I remember there was a lady a few Christmases ago who was murdered and the police arreseted her landlords and because he looked a bit different everyone said he had to be guilty and he was ripped to pieces by the press and the public and then it turns out he had nothing to do with it ..and what dont help with society today is the public who judge every thing and every one by what they read and what they hear or by the colour of skin or because someone isdifferent. Maybe some people should get out of there little Bubble and get some understanding factbeforefiction
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2:03pm Thu 24 Jan 13

TherealIndiana says...

factbeforefiction wrote:
to add a bit more yes what this person or persons did was terrible and very very stupied
but we all sit on here commenting on these storys acting like non of us have ever done anything wrong in our lifes but most of us if we r honest will have done something bad or nasty to some one else even if u think it was nothing
and as much as i read the echo unfortunatly the reporters do not get ther whole story and of course we read far to much in to the head line i mean tower bloke sniper it makes them sound like a terrorist
I believe the main crime commited here is spelling and grammar!

This 'sniper' in the tower block is just a patsy, the shots were clearly coming from the grassy knoll!
[quote][p][bold]factbeforefiction[/bold] wrote: to add a bit more yes what this person or persons did was terrible and very very stupied but we all sit on here commenting on these storys acting like non of us have ever done anything wrong in our lifes but most of us if we r honest will have done something bad or nasty to some one else even if u think it was nothing and as much as i read the echo unfortunatly the reporters do not get ther whole story and of course we read far to much in to the head line i mean tower bloke sniper it makes them sound like a terrorist[/p][/quote]I believe the main crime commited here is spelling and grammar! This 'sniper' in the tower block is just a patsy, the shots were clearly coming from the grassy knoll! TherealIndiana
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2:04pm Thu 24 Jan 13

Shoebury_Cyclist says...

Sir Peter Pantsless the 3rd wrote:
I am in shock how many people here seam to be making excuses for this evil scumbag.
.
It makes me wonder what other atrocities, acts of evil, etc you people sympathise with???
.
People like you are the reason this country's society is failing.
.
What he did was wrong and he must be punished to the full extent of the law (no doubt a £5 victim surcharge and 3 hours communtiy service)
What would you say about a person who killed someone and was fined only £35?
[quote][p][bold]Sir Peter Pantsless the 3rd[/bold] wrote: I am in shock how many people here seam to be making excuses for this evil scumbag. . It makes me wonder what other atrocities, acts of evil, etc you people sympathise with??? . People like you are the reason this country's society is failing. . What he did was wrong and he must be punished to the full extent of the law (no doubt a £5 victim surcharge and 3 hours communtiy service)[/p][/quote]What would you say about a person who killed someone and was fined only £35? Shoebury_Cyclist
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2:19pm Thu 24 Jan 13

factbeforefiction says...

TherealIndiana wrote:
factbeforefiction wrote: to add a bit more yes what this person or persons did was terrible and very very stupied but we all sit on here commenting on these storys acting like non of us have ever done anything wrong in our lifes but most of us if we r honest will have done something bad or nasty to some one else even if u think it was nothing and as much as i read the echo unfortunatly the reporters do not get ther whole story and of course we read far to much in to the head line i mean tower bloke sniper it makes them sound like a terrorist
I believe the main crime commited here is spelling and grammar! This 'sniper' in the tower block is just a patsy, the shots were clearly coming from the grassy knoll!
U will have to excuse my spelling and gramner as I I'm dyslexic so my apologies
[quote][p][bold]TherealIndiana[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]factbeforefiction[/bold] wrote: to add a bit more yes what this person or persons did was terrible and very very stupied but we all sit on here commenting on these storys acting like non of us have ever done anything wrong in our lifes but most of us if we r honest will have done something bad or nasty to some one else even if u think it was nothing and as much as i read the echo unfortunatly the reporters do not get ther whole story and of course we read far to much in to the head line i mean tower bloke sniper it makes them sound like a terrorist[/p][/quote]I believe the main crime commited here is spelling and grammar! This 'sniper' in the tower block is just a patsy, the shots were clearly coming from the grassy knoll![/p][/quote]U will have to excuse my spelling and gramner as I I'm dyslexic so my apologies factbeforefiction
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4:11pm Thu 24 Jan 13

pussycats says...

Nice one Indiana but the nearest grassy knoll is in Sheobury!
Nice one Indiana but the nearest grassy knoll is in Sheobury! pussycats
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5:23pm Thu 24 Jan 13

halojump says...

lets hope the council can evict if this person if found guilty for anti social behaviour. Who ever it was should be made fully aware that using such a weapon can trigger many responses, including deployment of armed police who could if they felt threatend use lethal force. Some people here seem to feel to carry the idea that an air rifle is a toy, which is entirely wrong as its appearance usally coupled with a telescopic sight is enough to cause distress or alarm to members of the public. It was clear the idiot was aiming for peoples heads hence the shot to a shoulder and to someones head, with that in mind the charge could be attempted murder and should at least generate a 5 year min sentance. What ever the reason be it a learning disability, disfunctional family, or even the excuse of not enough to do it should be classed as a violent act and not a prank.
lets hope the council can evict if this person if found guilty for anti social behaviour. Who ever it was should be made fully aware that using such a weapon can trigger many responses, including deployment of armed police who could if they felt threatend use lethal force. Some people here seem to feel to carry the idea that an air rifle is a toy, which is entirely wrong as its appearance usally coupled with a telescopic sight is enough to cause distress or alarm to members of the public. It was clear the idiot was aiming for peoples heads hence the shot to a shoulder and to someones head, with that in mind the charge could be attempted murder and should at least generate a 5 year min sentance. What ever the reason be it a learning disability, disfunctional family, or even the excuse of not enough to do it should be classed as a violent act and not a prank. halojump
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7:17pm Thu 24 Jan 13

BinDipper says...

If they've got the right man, and if they haven't they subsequently get the right man, they need to throw the book at him. He was shooting at people with a gun. That is a pretty serious offence in anybody's book.

There have been very few occasions of death from airgun pellets but people have lost an eye. There is no room for understanding here. HE needs to UNDERSTAND that it's WRONG! A clear message should be sent to anybody else contemplating doing this for larks that it is wrong and will be severely punished.
If they've got the right man, and if they haven't they subsequently get the right man, they need to throw the book at him. He was shooting at people with a gun. That is a pretty serious offence in anybody's book. There have been very few occasions of death from airgun pellets but people have lost an eye. There is no room for understanding here. HE needs to UNDERSTAND that it's WRONG! A clear message should be sent to anybody else contemplating doing this for larks that it is wrong and will be severely punished. BinDipper
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8:31pm Thu 24 Jan 13

jayman says...

BinDipper wrote:
If they've got the right man, and if they haven't they subsequently get the right man, they need to throw the book at him. He was shooting at people with a gun. That is a pretty serious offence in anybody's book.

There have been very few occasions of death from airgun pellets but people have lost an eye. There is no room for understanding here. HE needs to UNDERSTAND that it's WRONG! A clear message should be sent to anybody else contemplating doing this for larks that it is wrong and will be severely punished.
Our prisons are full! our criminal justice system is woefully underfunded and our police are at breaking point.

what would you have. sling everyone in prison to send out a 'clear message'

the only outcome of this would be a sun headline.

"LAGS COST UK BILLIONS TO LOCK UP"

Then there would be an outrage by the right wing. Then they would all blame Europe for 'human rights' namby pamby.

consider this.

america has one of the largest prison populations in the world and has the death penalty in some states yet still has acts of mass violence on a greater scale then we have in this country.

and like america we have an unequal society in terms of wealth and opportunity.

here is a good example. one from a local prospective.

enjoy :)

http://www.bbc.co.uk
/news/special/educat
ion/school_tables/se
condary/12/html/eng_
maths_882.stm?compar
e=
[quote][p][bold]BinDipper[/bold] wrote: If they've got the right man, and if they haven't they subsequently get the right man, they need to throw the book at him. He was shooting at people with a gun. That is a pretty serious offence in anybody's book. There have been very few occasions of death from airgun pellets but people have lost an eye. There is no room for understanding here. HE needs to UNDERSTAND that it's WRONG! A clear message should be sent to anybody else contemplating doing this for larks that it is wrong and will be severely punished.[/p][/quote]Our prisons are full! our criminal justice system is woefully underfunded and our police are at breaking point. what would you have. sling everyone in prison to send out a 'clear message' the only outcome of this would be a sun headline. "LAGS COST UK BILLIONS TO LOCK UP" Then there would be an outrage by the right wing. Then they would all blame Europe for 'human rights' namby pamby. consider this. america has one of the largest prison populations in the world and has the death penalty in some states yet still has acts of mass violence on a greater scale then we have in this country. and like america we have an unequal society in terms of wealth and opportunity. here is a good example. one from a local prospective. enjoy :) http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/special/educat ion/school_tables/se condary/12/html/eng_ maths_882.stm?compar e= jayman
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10:15pm Thu 24 Jan 13

BinDipper says...

jayman wrote:
BinDipper wrote:
If they've got the right man, and if they haven't they subsequently get the right man, they need to throw the book at him. He was shooting at people with a gun. That is a pretty serious offence in anybody's book.

There have been very few occasions of death from airgun pellets but people have lost an eye. There is no room for understanding here. HE needs to UNDERSTAND that it's WRONG! A clear message should be sent to anybody else contemplating doing this for larks that it is wrong and will be severely punished.
Our prisons are full! our criminal justice system is woefully underfunded and our police are at breaking point.

what would you have. sling everyone in prison to send out a 'clear message'

the only outcome of this would be a sun headline.

"LAGS COST UK BILLIONS TO LOCK UP"

Then there would be an outrage by the right wing. Then they would all blame Europe for 'human rights' namby pamby.

consider this.

america has one of the largest prison populations in the world and has the death penalty in some states yet still has acts of mass violence on a greater scale then we have in this country.

and like america we have an unequal society in terms of wealth and opportunity.

here is a good example. one from a local prospective.

enjoy :)

http://www.bbc.co.uk

/news/special/educat

ion/school_tables/se

condary/12/html/eng_

maths_882.stm?compar

e=
And what would you do? Fine him £50 and make him do 20 hours community service? You plonker, Rodney.
[quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BinDipper[/bold] wrote: If they've got the right man, and if they haven't they subsequently get the right man, they need to throw the book at him. He was shooting at people with a gun. That is a pretty serious offence in anybody's book. There have been very few occasions of death from airgun pellets but people have lost an eye. There is no room for understanding here. HE needs to UNDERSTAND that it's WRONG! A clear message should be sent to anybody else contemplating doing this for larks that it is wrong and will be severely punished.[/p][/quote]Our prisons are full! our criminal justice system is woefully underfunded and our police are at breaking point. what would you have. sling everyone in prison to send out a 'clear message' the only outcome of this would be a sun headline. "LAGS COST UK BILLIONS TO LOCK UP" Then there would be an outrage by the right wing. Then they would all blame Europe for 'human rights' namby pamby. consider this. america has one of the largest prison populations in the world and has the death penalty in some states yet still has acts of mass violence on a greater scale then we have in this country. and like america we have an unequal society in terms of wealth and opportunity. here is a good example. one from a local prospective. enjoy :) http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/special/educat ion/school_tables/se condary/12/html/eng_ maths_882.stm?compar e=[/p][/quote]And what would you do? Fine him £50 and make him do 20 hours community service? You plonker, Rodney. BinDipper
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10:44pm Thu 24 Jan 13

asbo. just the truth says...

it's quantocks....quel surprise.
let's bulldoze smack towers and re-home the fine upstanding residents next to jayman and shoebury clownski
it's quantocks....quel surprise. let's bulldoze smack towers and re-home the fine upstanding residents next to jayman and shoebury clownski asbo. just the truth
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10:48pm Thu 24 Jan 13

whataday says...

jayman wrote:
I hope that the.

non-Tory voting, gay, illegal immigrant, father of twelve, benefit scrounging, dope smoking, work shy, gang running, Jeremy kyle watching, plasma/LCD 180" owning, sky subscripting, tracksuit wearing, (anything that I have missed?)

gets life in prison/hung by the neck for every crime that has ever happened, EVER!!!.

or perhaps we should stop acting like sun journalist and ask some deep questions about the reason why! a young man would feel the need to take pot shots at passers by.

I think it has a lot to do with the hopelessness of today becoming disenfranchised by the society they belong to and in becoming so 'detached' they lose the concept of consequence or lose the very concept of those around them and the environment in which they are in.

to add further clarity to the otherwise bizarre right-wing fest of snap opinions and comments.

mindless violence is an all to common problem that requires a receptive and dynamic solution.
Or it could be that he's and irresponsible, disrespectful little git
[quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: I hope that the. non-Tory voting, gay, illegal immigrant, father of twelve, benefit scrounging, dope smoking, work shy, gang running, Jeremy kyle watching, plasma/LCD 180" owning, sky subscripting, tracksuit wearing, (anything that I have missed?) gets life in prison/hung by the neck for every crime that has ever happened, EVER!!!. or perhaps we should stop acting like sun journalist and ask some deep questions about the reason why! a young man would feel the need to take pot shots at passers by. I think it has a lot to do with the hopelessness of today becoming disenfranchised by the society they belong to and in becoming so 'detached' they lose the concept of consequence or lose the very concept of those around them and the environment in which they are in. to add further clarity to the otherwise bizarre right-wing fest of snap opinions and comments. mindless violence is an all to common problem that requires a receptive and dynamic solution.[/p][/quote]Or it could be that he's and irresponsible, disrespectful little git whataday
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10:54pm Thu 24 Jan 13

asbo. just the truth says...

a scrote outbreak. vitriol in the community will be wetting her knickers eh shoebury clownski buck buck buck?
a scrote outbreak. vitriol in the community will be wetting her knickers eh shoebury clownski buck buck buck? asbo. just the truth
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11:01pm Thu 24 Jan 13

asbo. just the truth says...

jayman, got any tips for committing crimes and then blaming them on hand wringing, waste of tax payer funds, bindly left wing, chip carrying nutters?
jayman, got any tips for committing crimes and then blaming them on hand wringing, waste of tax payer funds, bindly left wing, chip carrying nutters? asbo. just the truth
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11:03pm Thu 24 Jan 13

asbo. just the truth says...

blindly
blindly asbo. just the truth
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11:46pm Thu 24 Jan 13

jayman says...

asbo. just the truth wrote:
it's quantocks....quel surprise.
let's bulldoze smack towers and re-home the fine upstanding residents next to jayman and shoebury clownski
thanks for that asbo, now if you give the computer back to your mum or dad. I will respond to them.

try to think about the subject matter without displaying every prejudice and unfounded and hopelessly inward opinion that has the unique ability to dismiss itself. Thus saving me the time in highlight its lack of content and notable worth at great length.
[quote][p][bold]asbo. just the truth[/bold] wrote: it's quantocks....quel surprise. let's bulldoze smack towers and re-home the fine upstanding residents next to jayman and shoebury clownski[/p][/quote]thanks for that asbo, now if you give the computer back to your mum or dad. I will respond to them. try to think about the subject matter without displaying every prejudice and unfounded and hopelessly inward opinion that has the unique ability to dismiss itself. Thus saving me the time in highlight its lack of content and notable worth at great length. jayman
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12:07am Fri 25 Jan 13

asbo. just the truth says...

jayman, clueless as ever and as ever the victim. you should be convicted for your hand wringing crimes. care to share a 6'x8' box with the smackhead shooter?
jayman, clueless as ever and as ever the victim. you should be convicted for your hand wringing crimes. care to share a 6'x8' box with the smackhead shooter? asbo. just the truth
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6:19am Fri 25 Jan 13

Essex Medja says...

jayman wrote:
"...I think it has a lot to do with the hopelessness of today becoming disenfranchised by the society they belong to and in becoming so 'detached' they lose the concept of consequence or lose the very concept of those around them and the environment in which they are in...
.
Mindless violence is an all to common problem that requires a receptive and dynamic solution...."
.
1. Have you been reading the Social Workers Weekly again?
2. Remind me why we have invaded Afghanistan and Iraq and are killing their civilians..
.
I am happy to clarify if you yet agin fail to grasp the connection with the scrote in question who has not been taught the normal values of society. That is you are only allowed to shot people when the Government says you can.
jayman wrote: "...I think it has a lot to do with the hopelessness of today becoming disenfranchised by the society they belong to and in becoming so 'detached' they lose the concept of consequence or lose the very concept of those around them and the environment in which they are in... . Mindless violence is an all to common problem that requires a receptive and dynamic solution...." . 1. Have you been reading the Social Workers Weekly again? 2. Remind me why we have invaded Afghanistan and Iraq and are killing their civilians.. . I am happy to clarify if you yet agin fail to grasp the connection with the scrote in question who has not been taught the normal values of society. That is you are only allowed to shot people when the Government says you can. Essex Medja
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7:48am Fri 25 Jan 13

factbeforefiction says...

If u all only new what I do and Jo before u ask I wasn't in the flat .but I know altot more than than the rest of you .so plz before carry on ripping the man who was arrested apart and hanging him before you know the truth .just keep this in mind maybe he was in wring place at wrong time and maybe he is to afraid to say what really happened
If u all only new what I do and Jo before u ask I wasn't in the flat .but I know altot more than than the rest of you .so plz before carry on ripping the man who was arrested apart and hanging him before you know the truth .just keep this in mind maybe he was in wring place at wrong time and maybe he is to afraid to say what really happened factbeforefiction
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7:50am Fri 25 Jan 13

factbeforefiction says...

That's wrong place not wring before my spelling gets questioned
That's wrong place not wring before my spelling gets questioned factbeforefiction
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7:54am Fri 25 Jan 13

TherealIndiana says...

factbeforefiction wrote:
TherealIndiana wrote:
factbeforefiction wrote: to add a bit more yes what this person or persons did was terrible and very very stupied but we all sit on here commenting on these storys acting like non of us have ever done anything wrong in our lifes but most of us if we r honest will have done something bad or nasty to some one else even if u think it was nothing and as much as i read the echo unfortunatly the reporters do not get ther whole story and of course we read far to much in to the head line i mean tower bloke sniper it makes them sound like a terrorist
I believe the main crime commited here is spelling and grammar! This 'sniper' in the tower block is just a patsy, the shots were clearly coming from the grassy knoll!
U will have to excuse my spelling and gramner as I I'm dyslexic so my apologies
Theres a great new invention for the dyslexic, it's called spell check....
[quote][p][bold]factbeforefiction[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TherealIndiana[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]factbeforefiction[/bold] wrote: to add a bit more yes what this person or persons did was terrible and very very stupied but we all sit on here commenting on these storys acting like non of us have ever done anything wrong in our lifes but most of us if we r honest will have done something bad or nasty to some one else even if u think it was nothing and as much as i read the echo unfortunatly the reporters do not get ther whole story and of course we read far to much in to the head line i mean tower bloke sniper it makes them sound like a terrorist[/p][/quote]I believe the main crime commited here is spelling and grammar! This 'sniper' in the tower block is just a patsy, the shots were clearly coming from the grassy knoll![/p][/quote]U will have to excuse my spelling and gramner as I I'm dyslexic so my apologies[/p][/quote]Theres a great new invention for the dyslexic, it's called spell check.... TherealIndiana
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8:23am Fri 25 Jan 13

OMPITA [UK] says...

Whether or not the person arrested and subsequently bailed pending further enquiries is eventually convicted remains to be seen.

However the headline published by the Standard seems to make it very clear that in the opinion of the newspaper he is guilty. The words ‘Tower block sniper arrested by police’ leave no doubt whatsoever that the editor is declaring to the readership that the arrested person is the sniper.

I don’t think that will be very helpful to the prosecution at any future trial as the defence will no doubt claim that virtually every member of the jury who may have seen it will already be prejudiced against the defendant.

It just beggars belief that the headline didn’t include the word ‘suspected’.

Indeed this is a classic example of the point that ‘factbeforefiction
’ was making in his 2.00 pm submission on 24th January.

I think a little more circumspection within the journalistic team is called for.
Whether or not the person arrested and subsequently bailed pending further enquiries is eventually convicted remains to be seen. However the headline published by the Standard seems to make it very clear that in the opinion of the newspaper he is guilty. The words ‘Tower block sniper arrested by police’ leave no doubt whatsoever that the editor is declaring to the readership that the arrested person is the sniper. I don’t think that will be very helpful to the prosecution at any future trial as the defence will no doubt claim that virtually every member of the jury who may have seen it will already be prejudiced against the defendant. It just beggars belief that the headline didn’t include the word ‘suspected’. Indeed this is a classic example of the point that ‘factbeforefiction ’ was making in his 2.00 pm submission on 24th January. I think a little more circumspection within the journalistic team is called for. OMPITA [UK]
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9:14am Fri 25 Jan 13

jayman says...

Essex Medja wrote:
jayman wrote:
"...I think it has a lot to do with the hopelessness of today becoming disenfranchised by the society they belong to and in becoming so 'detached' they lose the concept of consequence or lose the very concept of those around them and the environment in which they are in...
.
Mindless violence is an all to common problem that requires a receptive and dynamic solution...."
.
1. Have you been reading the Social Workers Weekly again?
2. Remind me why we have invaded Afghanistan and Iraq and are killing their civilians..
.
I am happy to clarify if you yet agin fail to grasp the connection with the scrote in question who has not been taught the normal values of society. That is you are only allowed to shot people when the Government says you can.
1) as i stated before. I am not a social worker!

2) you will have to ask a politician that question.

under the armed forces act 2006 it would have been a criminal act if I refused to carry out my duty and follow orders unless I had good grounds to conscientiously object to the deployment, in which case I would have been sent to Colchester MCTC (military prison) regardless. I would have grounds to refuse to follow an order if i was given a specific order which was 'illegal' under the Geneva convention or was not within the sanctioned 'rules of engagement'

I suggest you try to do a little research prior to a pitiful attempt at stigmatising me. You should know better, you work in PR after all..

(see what I did there) :)
[quote][p][bold]Essex Medja[/bold] wrote: jayman wrote: "...I think it has a lot to do with the hopelessness of today becoming disenfranchised by the society they belong to and in becoming so 'detached' they lose the concept of consequence or lose the very concept of those around them and the environment in which they are in... . Mindless violence is an all to common problem that requires a receptive and dynamic solution...." . 1. Have you been reading the Social Workers Weekly again? 2. Remind me why we have invaded Afghanistan and Iraq and are killing their civilians.. . I am happy to clarify if you yet agin fail to grasp the connection with the scrote in question who has not been taught the normal values of society. That is you are only allowed to shot people when the Government says you can.[/p][/quote]1) as i stated before. I am not a social worker! 2) you will have to ask a politician that question. under the armed forces act 2006 it would have been a criminal act if I refused to carry out my duty and follow orders unless I had good grounds to conscientiously object to the deployment, in which case I would have been sent to Colchester MCTC (military prison) regardless. I would have grounds to refuse to follow an order if i was given a specific order which was 'illegal' under the Geneva convention or was not within the sanctioned 'rules of engagement' I suggest you try to do a little research prior to a pitiful attempt at stigmatising me. You should know better, you work in PR after all.. (see what I did there) :) jayman
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11:02am Fri 25 Jan 13

Alekhine says...

Jayman says...

"under the armed forces act 2006 it would have been a criminal act if I refused to carry out my duty and follow orders unless I had good grounds to conscientiously object to the deployment, in which case I would have been sent to Colchester MCTC (military prison) regardless. I would have grounds to refuse to follow an order if i was given a specific order which was 'illegal' under the Geneva convention or was not within the sanctioned 'rules of engagement'
--

What is the difference between this and "you are only allowed to shoot people when the Government says you can."?
Jayman says... "under the armed forces act 2006 it would have been a criminal act if I refused to carry out my duty and follow orders unless I had good grounds to conscientiously object to the deployment, in which case I would have been sent to Colchester MCTC (military prison) regardless. I would have grounds to refuse to follow an order if i was given a specific order which was 'illegal' under the Geneva convention or was not within the sanctioned 'rules of engagement' -- What is the difference between this and "you are only allowed to shoot people when the Government says you can."? Alekhine
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12:51pm Fri 25 Jan 13

stopmoaning1 says...

TherealIndiana wrote:
factbeforefiction wrote:
TherealIndiana wrote:
factbeforefiction wrote: to add a bit more yes what this person or persons did was terrible and very very stupied but we all sit on here commenting on these storys acting like non of us have ever done anything wrong in our lifes but most of us if we r honest will have done something bad or nasty to some one else even if u think it was nothing and as much as i read the echo unfortunatly the reporters do not get ther whole story and of course we read far to much in to the head line i mean tower bloke sniper it makes them sound like a terrorist
I believe the main crime commited here is spelling and grammar! This 'sniper' in the tower block is just a patsy, the shots were clearly coming from the grassy knoll!
U will have to excuse my spelling and gramner as I I'm dyslexic so my apologies
Theres a great new invention for the dyslexic, it's called spell check....
Imbecile, dyslexia has MANY forms, not just spelling. Glad you were able to add such substance to the debate
[quote][p][bold]TherealIndiana[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]factbeforefiction[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TherealIndiana[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]factbeforefiction[/bold] wrote: to add a bit more yes what this person or persons did was terrible and very very stupied but we all sit on here commenting on these storys acting like non of us have ever done anything wrong in our lifes but most of us if we r honest will have done something bad or nasty to some one else even if u think it was nothing and as much as i read the echo unfortunatly the reporters do not get ther whole story and of course we read far to much in to the head line i mean tower bloke sniper it makes them sound like a terrorist[/p][/quote]I believe the main crime commited here is spelling and grammar! This 'sniper' in the tower block is just a patsy, the shots were clearly coming from the grassy knoll![/p][/quote]U will have to excuse my spelling and gramner as I I'm dyslexic so my apologies[/p][/quote]Theres a great new invention for the dyslexic, it's called spell check....[/p][/quote]Imbecile, dyslexia has MANY forms, not just spelling. Glad you were able to add such substance to the debate stopmoaning1
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1:19pm Fri 25 Jan 13

Rouge9 says...

Rob777 wrote:
Rouge9 wrote:
Rob777 wrote:
JuliaM wrote: Should have just tossed the waste of oxygen off the roof of the block...
After reading Echos headline I suppose you cant be blamed entirely for your stupid comment. "Tower block sniper arrested by police!!!" If you read the full story you will see that "He was bailed until March 20 pending further enquiries." This suggests that its very possible they may have the wrong person & certainly to not currently have the evidence to charge him let alone get a conviction in court. Yet you want to murder him ?
You will find that anyone arrested (and they have reasonable suspicion to charge hence the arrest), then they are bailed, if not the same day then the next. The days of incarceration until trial are passed. Come the trial, or if other evidence comes to light, then they will see if they have the right person.
Sorry Rouge but you may be missing the point, "He was bailed until March 20 pending further enquiries" There quite simple is no trail due at the moment. Which basically states (I admit not clearly) that he has NOT been charged, they have bailed him in the hope that they can find evidence strong enough to charge him in the mean time OR they have the wrong guy and dont want to lose face so are going to drag it out until March & then quietly press no charges. Also there is still incarceration until trail its called remand. & in many cases especially for instance in the interests of "public safety" the suspect will be remanded. I would like to think that a "Tower block snipper" would be deemed a danger to the public and therefore be remanded if a) the story have not been blow out of proportion by the echo or b) they have evidence that he was the guilty man.
Rob, apologies for misunderstanding, however, you can't be bailed unless you've been arrested and charged. I presume charged under a firearms offence and then bailed pending further enquiries.
CPS will then go through the process of gathering full evidence in order to see if a trial is needed (and against whom) Come March 20th, a court date will be set or he'll be released.
Yes there is remand, I've always believed that to be for those thought to be a risk to themselves/others (yes I realsise he was firing a pellet gun at people) or a flight risk, they obviosly see him not to be a problem.

Don't forget this is the Echo, so not expecting the full accurate unbiased facts to be reported ;)
[quote][p][bold]Rob777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rouge9[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rob777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JuliaM[/bold] wrote: Should have just tossed the waste of oxygen off the roof of the block...[/p][/quote]After reading Echos headline I suppose you cant be blamed entirely for your stupid comment. "Tower block sniper arrested by police!!!" If you read the full story you will see that "He was bailed until March 20 pending further enquiries." This suggests that its very possible they may have the wrong person & certainly to not currently have the evidence to charge him let alone get a conviction in court. Yet you want to murder him ?[/p][/quote]You will find that anyone arrested (and they have reasonable suspicion to charge hence the arrest), then they are bailed, if not the same day then the next. The days of incarceration until trial are passed. Come the trial, or if other evidence comes to light, then they will see if they have the right person.[/p][/quote]Sorry Rouge but you may be missing the point, "He was bailed until March 20 pending further enquiries" There quite simple is no trail due at the moment. Which basically states (I admit not clearly) that he has NOT been charged, they have bailed him in the hope that they can find evidence strong enough to charge him in the mean time OR they have the wrong guy and dont want to lose face so are going to drag it out until March & then quietly press no charges. Also there is still incarceration until trail its called remand. & in many cases especially for instance in the interests of "public safety" the suspect will be remanded. I would like to think that a "Tower block snipper" would be deemed a danger to the public and therefore be remanded if a) the story have not been blow out of proportion by the echo or b) they have evidence that he was the guilty man.[/p][/quote]Rob, apologies for misunderstanding, however, you can't be bailed unless you've been arrested and charged. I presume charged under a firearms offence and then bailed pending further enquiries. CPS will then go through the process of gathering full evidence in order to see if a trial is needed (and against whom) Come March 20th, a court date will be set or he'll be released. Yes there is remand, I've always believed that to be for those thought to be a risk to themselves/others (yes I realsise he was firing a pellet gun at people) or a flight risk, they obviosly see him not to be a problem. Don't forget this is the Echo, so not expecting the full accurate unbiased facts to be reported ;) Rouge9
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1:29pm Fri 25 Jan 13

andy:) says...

apapa palm wrote:
and just wait till the bulgarians and romanians are allowed in !!!! Lord help us
Will they be shooting at people ?. The chances are the guy in this story is white British, but of course that doesnt fit with many peoples prejudices.
[quote][p][bold]apapa palm[/bold] wrote: and just wait till the bulgarians and romanians are allowed in !!!! Lord help us[/p][/quote]Will they be shooting at people ?. The chances are the guy in this story is white British, but of course that doesnt fit with many peoples prejudices. andy:)
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2:24pm Fri 25 Jan 13

jayman says...

Alekhine wrote:
Jayman says...

"under the armed forces act 2006 it would have been a criminal act if I refused to carry out my duty and follow orders unless I had good grounds to conscientiously object to the deployment, in which case I would have been sent to Colchester MCTC (military prison) regardless. I would have grounds to refuse to follow an order if i was given a specific order which was 'illegal' under the Geneva convention or was not within the sanctioned 'rules of engagement'
--

What is the difference between this and "you are only allowed to shoot people when the Government says you can."?
no government can 'order' anyone to shoot!

it is the soldiers responsibility to 'decide' whether or not to open fire.

the only thing the government provide is 'rules of engagement' If the rules of engagement are not lawful by international conventions, it is the soldiers responsibility to refuse to follow them.

this distinguishes the difference between a thug/killer and a professional soldier..
[quote][p][bold]Alekhine[/bold] wrote: Jayman says... "under the armed forces act 2006 it would have been a criminal act if I refused to carry out my duty and follow orders unless I had good grounds to conscientiously object to the deployment, in which case I would have been sent to Colchester MCTC (military prison) regardless. I would have grounds to refuse to follow an order if i was given a specific order which was 'illegal' under the Geneva convention or was not within the sanctioned 'rules of engagement' -- What is the difference between this and "you are only allowed to shoot people when the Government says you can."?[/p][/quote]no government can 'order' anyone to shoot! it is the soldiers responsibility to 'decide' whether or not to open fire. the only thing the government provide is 'rules of engagement' If the rules of engagement are not lawful by international conventions, it is the soldiers responsibility to refuse to follow them. this distinguishes the difference between a thug/killer and a professional soldier.. jayman
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2:44pm Fri 25 Jan 13

TherealIndiana says...

stopmoaning1 wrote:
TherealIndiana wrote:
factbeforefiction wrote:
TherealIndiana wrote:
factbeforefiction wrote: to add a bit more yes what this person or persons did was terrible and very very stupied but we all sit on here commenting on these storys acting like non of us have ever done anything wrong in our lifes but most of us if we r honest will have done something bad or nasty to some one else even if u think it was nothing and as much as i read the echo unfortunatly the reporters do not get ther whole story and of course we read far to much in to the head line i mean tower bloke sniper it makes them sound like a terrorist
I believe the main crime commited here is spelling and grammar! This 'sniper' in the tower block is just a patsy, the shots were clearly coming from the grassy knoll!
U will have to excuse my spelling and gramner as I I'm dyslexic so my apologies
Theres a great new invention for the dyslexic, it's called spell check....
Imbecile, dyslexia has MANY forms, not just spelling. Glad you were able to add such substance to the debate
I heartily concurr, I have several colleagues who suffer from dyslexia and I check the reports which they have written. I have never found at any point one of my colleagues using 'text speak' in any context, as opposed to incorrect spelling or phrasing.
[quote][p][bold]stopmoaning1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TherealIndiana[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]factbeforefiction[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TherealIndiana[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]factbeforefiction[/bold] wrote: to add a bit more yes what this person or persons did was terrible and very very stupied but we all sit on here commenting on these storys acting like non of us have ever done anything wrong in our lifes but most of us if we r honest will have done something bad or nasty to some one else even if u think it was nothing and as much as i read the echo unfortunatly the reporters do not get ther whole story and of course we read far to much in to the head line i mean tower bloke sniper it makes them sound like a terrorist[/p][/quote]I believe the main crime commited here is spelling and grammar! This 'sniper' in the tower block is just a patsy, the shots were clearly coming from the grassy knoll![/p][/quote]U will have to excuse my spelling and gramner as I I'm dyslexic so my apologies[/p][/quote]Theres a great new invention for the dyslexic, it's called spell check....[/p][/quote]Imbecile, dyslexia has MANY forms, not just spelling. Glad you were able to add such substance to the debate[/p][/quote]I heartily concurr, I have several colleagues who suffer from dyslexia and I check the reports which they have written. I have never found at any point one of my colleagues using 'text speak' in any context, as opposed to incorrect spelling or phrasing. TherealIndiana
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6:15pm Fri 25 Jan 13

halojump says...

Essex Medja wrote:
jayman wrote: "...I think it has a lot to do with the hopelessness of today becoming disenfranchised by the society they belong to and in becoming so 'detached' they lose the concept of consequence or lose the very concept of those around them and the environment in which they are in... . Mindless violence is an all to common problem that requires a receptive and dynamic solution...." . 1. Have you been reading the Social Workers Weekly again? 2. Remind me why we have invaded Afghanistan and Iraq and are killing their civilians.. . I am happy to clarify if you yet agin fail to grasp the connection with the scrote in question who has not been taught the normal values of society. That is you are only allowed to shot people when the Government says you can.
we have gone to iraq and afghanstan as part of a multi national force to prevent terrorist acts being carried out on our soil. Taking the fight directly to these organisations and their supporting goverments means we preserve life on our soil and can continue about our day to day life. The acts of ISAF are not mindless violence but planned actions which are carried out by soldiers who are accountable for their action. Acts against civilians are investigated and if criminal those responsible held accountable. NO soldier in the british army takes pride or enjoyment from innocents being hurt or killed and know that they are there to protect such people. You seem to have a problem grasping the use of armed forces and beleive that a kid with an air rifle taking shots in a street whilst there is no threat to him is the same.
[quote][p][bold]Essex Medja[/bold] wrote: jayman wrote: "...I think it has a lot to do with the hopelessness of today becoming disenfranchised by the society they belong to and in becoming so 'detached' they lose the concept of consequence or lose the very concept of those around them and the environment in which they are in... . Mindless violence is an all to common problem that requires a receptive and dynamic solution...." . 1. Have you been reading the Social Workers Weekly again? 2. Remind me why we have invaded Afghanistan and Iraq and are killing their civilians.. . I am happy to clarify if you yet agin fail to grasp the connection with the scrote in question who has not been taught the normal values of society. That is you are only allowed to shot people when the Government says you can.[/p][/quote]we have gone to iraq and afghanstan as part of a multi national force to prevent terrorist acts being carried out on our soil. Taking the fight directly to these organisations and their supporting goverments means we preserve life on our soil and can continue about our day to day life. The acts of ISAF are not mindless violence but planned actions which are carried out by soldiers who are accountable for their action. Acts against civilians are investigated and if criminal those responsible held accountable. NO soldier in the british army takes pride or enjoyment from innocents being hurt or killed and know that they are there to protect such people. You seem to have a problem grasping the use of armed forces and beleive that a kid with an air rifle taking shots in a street whilst there is no threat to him is the same. halojump
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6:22pm Fri 25 Jan 13

factbeforefiction says...

TherealIndiana wrote:
stopmoaning1 wrote:
TherealIndiana wrote:
factbeforefiction wrote:
TherealIndiana wrote:
factbeforefiction wrote: to add a bit more yes what this person or persons did was terrible and very very stupied but we all sit on here commenting on these storys acting like non of us have ever done anything wrong in our lifes but most of us if we r honest will have done something bad or nasty to some one else even if u think it was nothing and as much as i read the echo unfortunatly the reporters do not get ther whole story and of course we read far to much in to the head line i mean tower bloke sniper it makes them sound like a terrorist
I believe the main crime commited here is spelling and grammar! This 'sniper' in the tower block is just a patsy, the shots were clearly coming from the grassy knoll!
U will have to excuse my spelling and gramner as I I'm dyslexic so my apologies
Theres a great new invention for the dyslexic, it's called spell check....
Imbecile, dyslexia has MANY forms, not just spelling. Glad you were able to add such substance to the debate
I heartily concurr, I have several colleagues who suffer from dyslexia and I check the reports which they have written. I have never found at any point one of my colleagues using 'text speak' in any context, as opposed to incorrect spelling or phrasing.
Why is it the moment someone mentions having a learning difficulty these always someone to judge u and make it sound like u playing on it
[quote][p][bold]TherealIndiana[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stopmoaning1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TherealIndiana[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]factbeforefiction[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TherealIndiana[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]factbeforefiction[/bold] wrote: to add a bit more yes what this person or persons did was terrible and very very stupied but we all sit on here commenting on these storys acting like non of us have ever done anything wrong in our lifes but most of us if we r honest will have done something bad or nasty to some one else even if u think it was nothing and as much as i read the echo unfortunatly the reporters do not get ther whole story and of course we read far to much in to the head line i mean tower bloke sniper it makes them sound like a terrorist[/p][/quote]I believe the main crime commited here is spelling and grammar! This 'sniper' in the tower block is just a patsy, the shots were clearly coming from the grassy knoll![/p][/quote]U will have to excuse my spelling and gramner as I I'm dyslexic so my apologies[/p][/quote]Theres a great new invention for the dyslexic, it's called spell check....[/p][/quote]Imbecile, dyslexia has MANY forms, not just spelling. Glad you were able to add such substance to the debate[/p][/quote]I heartily concurr, I have several colleagues who suffer from dyslexia and I check the reports which they have written. I have never found at any point one of my colleagues using 'text speak' in any context, as opposed to incorrect spelling or phrasing.[/p][/quote]Why is it the moment someone mentions having a learning difficulty these always someone to judge u and make it sound like u playing on it factbeforefiction
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6:46pm Fri 25 Jan 13

Soouthchurch59 says...

Mocking those with dyslexia Isn't big and isn't fanny!
Mocking those with dyslexia Isn't big and isn't fanny! Soouthchurch59
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11:01am Sat 26 Jan 13

stopmoaning1 says...

TherealIndiana wrote:
factbeforefiction wrote:
TherealIndiana wrote:
factbeforefiction wrote: to add a bit more yes what this person or persons did was terrible and very very stupied but we all sit on here commenting on these storys acting like non of us have ever done anything wrong in our lifes but most of us if we r honest will have done something bad or nasty to some one else even if u think it was nothing and as much as i read the echo unfortunatly the reporters do not get ther whole story and of course we read far to much in to the head line i mean tower bloke sniper it makes them sound like a terrorist
I believe the main crime commited here is spelling and grammar! This 'sniper' in the tower block is just a patsy, the shots were clearly coming from the grassy knoll!
U will have to excuse my spelling and gramner as I I'm dyslexic so my apologies
Theres a great new invention for the dyslexic, it's called spell check....
Looks like you could have done with spell check yourself.
Your first word is an abbreviation of ‘there is’ and requires an apostrophe.
It should be There’s rather than as you have written - Theres
[quote][p][bold]TherealIndiana[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]factbeforefiction[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TherealIndiana[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]factbeforefiction[/bold] wrote: to add a bit more yes what this person or persons did was terrible and very very stupied but we all sit on here commenting on these storys acting like non of us have ever done anything wrong in our lifes but most of us if we r honest will have done something bad or nasty to some one else even if u think it was nothing and as much as i read the echo unfortunatly the reporters do not get ther whole story and of course we read far to much in to the head line i mean tower bloke sniper it makes them sound like a terrorist[/p][/quote]I believe the main crime commited here is spelling and grammar! This 'sniper' in the tower block is just a patsy, the shots were clearly coming from the grassy knoll![/p][/quote]U will have to excuse my spelling and gramner as I I'm dyslexic so my apologies[/p][/quote]Theres a great new invention for the dyslexic, it's called spell check....[/p][/quote]Looks like you could have done with spell check yourself. Your first word is an abbreviation of ‘there is’ and requires an apostrophe. It should be There’s rather than as you have written - Theres stopmoaning1
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12:46pm Sat 26 Jan 13

OMPITA [UK] says...

说得好。

令人欣慰的是
到谁懂英语的
说得好。 令人欣慰的是 到谁懂英语的 OMPITA [UK]
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8:34pm Sat 26 Jan 13

psorias says...

factbeforefiction wrote:
to add a bit more yes what this person or persons did was terrible and very very stupied
but we all sit on here commenting on these storys acting like non of us have ever done anything wrong in our lifes but most of us if we r honest will have done something bad or nasty to some one else even if u think it was nothing
and as much as i read the echo unfortunatly the reporters do not get ther whole story and of course we read far to much in to the head line i mean tower bloke sniper it makes them sound like a terrorist
Speak for yourself I Have never crossed the law as an adult. As a child I stole a black jack from the corner shop, bunked off school and played knock down ginger on april fools - You sound like you live in Southend where all this crime is about lately - Do you know all the culprits for all the stories the Echo has published ? Perhaps that is why you think it normal to shoot people in the head. Perhaps he was neglected of holidays as a child. We should send him on holiday then should we? You paying?
[quote][p][bold]factbeforefiction[/bold] wrote: to add a bit more yes what this person or persons did was terrible and very very stupied but we all sit on here commenting on these storys acting like non of us have ever done anything wrong in our lifes but most of us if we r honest will have done something bad or nasty to some one else even if u think it was nothing and as much as i read the echo unfortunatly the reporters do not get ther whole story and of course we read far to much in to the head line i mean tower bloke sniper it makes them sound like a terrorist[/p][/quote]Speak for yourself I Have never crossed the law as an adult. As a child I stole a black jack from the corner shop, bunked off school and played knock down ginger on april fools - You sound like you live in Southend where all this crime is about lately - Do you know all the culprits for all the stories the Echo has published ? Perhaps that is why you think it normal to shoot people in the head. Perhaps he was neglected of holidays as a child. We should send him on holiday then should we? You paying? psorias
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3:09am Sun 27 Jan 13

echoforum says...

psorias wrote:
factbeforefiction wrote:
to add a bit more yes what this person or persons did was terrible and very very stupied
but we all sit on here commenting on these storys acting like non of us have ever done anything wrong in our lifes but most of us if we r honest will have done something bad or nasty to some one else even if u think it was nothing
and as much as i read the echo unfortunatly the reporters do not get ther whole story and of course we read far to much in to the head line i mean tower bloke sniper it makes them sound like a terrorist
Speak for yourself I Have never crossed the law as an adult. As a child I stole a black jack from the corner shop, bunked off school and played knock down ginger on april fools - You sound like you live in Southend where all this crime is about lately - Do you know all the culprits for all the stories the Echo has published ? Perhaps that is why you think it normal to shoot people in the head. Perhaps he was neglected of holidays as a child. We should send him on holiday then should we? You paying?
We have a choice as a society 'pat him on the back' and send him on nice holidays or come down so heavy that scum thinks twice.
Airgunning is just about as anti-social and dangerous as it gets and unless there is a heavy price to pay for your actions then we'll end up with copy-cat morons enjoying their pastimes in the knowledge that the aint no punishment.
[quote][p][bold]psorias[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]factbeforefiction[/bold] wrote: to add a bit more yes what this person or persons did was terrible and very very stupied but we all sit on here commenting on these storys acting like non of us have ever done anything wrong in our lifes but most of us if we r honest will have done something bad or nasty to some one else even if u think it was nothing and as much as i read the echo unfortunatly the reporters do not get ther whole story and of course we read far to much in to the head line i mean tower bloke sniper it makes them sound like a terrorist[/p][/quote]Speak for yourself I Have never crossed the law as an adult. As a child I stole a black jack from the corner shop, bunked off school and played knock down ginger on april fools - You sound like you live in Southend where all this crime is about lately - Do you know all the culprits for all the stories the Echo has published ? Perhaps that is why you think it normal to shoot people in the head. Perhaps he was neglected of holidays as a child. We should send him on holiday then should we? You paying?[/p][/quote]We have a choice as a society 'pat him on the back' and send him on nice holidays or come down so heavy that scum thinks twice. Airgunning is just about as anti-social and dangerous as it gets and unless there is a heavy price to pay for your actions then we'll end up with copy-cat morons enjoying their pastimes in the knowledge that the aint no punishment. echoforum
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11:07am Sun 27 Jan 13

thatsmypoint says...

Rouge9 wrote:
Rob777 wrote:
Rouge9 wrote:
Rob777 wrote:
JuliaM wrote: Should have just tossed the waste of oxygen off the roof of the block...
After reading Echos headline I suppose you cant be blamed entirely for your stupid comment. "Tower block sniper arrested by police!!!" If you read the full story you will see that "He was bailed until March 20 pending further enquiries." This suggests that its very possible they may have the wrong person & certainly to not currently have the evidence to charge him let alone get a conviction in court. Yet you want to murder him ?
You will find that anyone arrested (and they have reasonable suspicion to charge hence the arrest), then they are bailed, if not the same day then the next. The days of incarceration until trial are passed. Come the trial, or if other evidence comes to light, then they will see if they have the right person.
Sorry Rouge but you may be missing the point, "He was bailed until March 20 pending further enquiries" There quite simple is no trail due at the moment. Which basically states (I admit not clearly) that he has NOT been charged, they have bailed him in the hope that they can find evidence strong enough to charge him in the mean time OR they have the wrong guy and dont want to lose face so are going to drag it out until March & then quietly press no charges. Also there is still incarceration until trail its called remand. & in many cases especially for instance in the interests of "public safety" the suspect will be remanded. I would like to think that a "Tower block snipper" would be deemed a danger to the public and therefore be remanded if a) the story have not been blow out of proportion by the echo or b) they have evidence that he was the guilty man.
Rob, apologies for misunderstanding, however, you can't be bailed unless you've been arrested and charged. I presume charged under a firearms offence and then bailed pending further enquiries.
CPS will then go through the process of gathering full evidence in order to see if a trial is needed (and against whom) Come March 20th, a court date will be set or he'll be released.
Yes there is remand, I've always believed that to be for those thought to be a risk to themselves/others (yes I realsise he was firing a pellet gun at people) or a flight risk, they obviosly see him not to be a problem.

Don't forget this is the Echo, so not expecting the full accurate unbiased facts to be reported ;)
You can be bailed without being charged...

"There are, therefore, principally two common types of bail: firstly when the defendant is bailed without charge, the police will allow the defendant to leave the police station, usually under certain restrictions or conditions, and the defendant will be given a bail return date to return to the police station.

During the period in which the defendant is on bail, the police will carry out their investigations and then decide if the defendant will be charged when he returns for the bail return date"
[quote][p][bold]Rouge9[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rob777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rouge9[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rob777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JuliaM[/bold] wrote: Should have just tossed the waste of oxygen off the roof of the block...[/p][/quote]After reading Echos headline I suppose you cant be blamed entirely for your stupid comment. "Tower block sniper arrested by police!!!" If you read the full story you will see that "He was bailed until March 20 pending further enquiries." This suggests that its very possible they may have the wrong person & certainly to not currently have the evidence to charge him let alone get a conviction in court. Yet you want to murder him ?[/p][/quote]You will find that anyone arrested (and they have reasonable suspicion to charge hence the arrest), then they are bailed, if not the same day then the next. The days of incarceration until trial are passed. Come the trial, or if other evidence comes to light, then they will see if they have the right person.[/p][/quote]Sorry Rouge but you may be missing the point, "He was bailed until March 20 pending further enquiries" There quite simple is no trail due at the moment. Which basically states (I admit not clearly) that he has NOT been charged, they have bailed him in the hope that they can find evidence strong enough to charge him in the mean time OR they have the wrong guy and dont want to lose face so are going to drag it out until March & then quietly press no charges. Also there is still incarceration until trail its called remand. & in many cases especially for instance in the interests of "public safety" the suspect will be remanded. I would like to think that a "Tower block snipper" would be deemed a danger to the public and therefore be remanded if a) the story have not been blow out of proportion by the echo or b) they have evidence that he was the guilty man.[/p][/quote]Rob, apologies for misunderstanding, however, you can't be bailed unless you've been arrested and charged. I presume charged under a firearms offence and then bailed pending further enquiries. CPS will then go through the process of gathering full evidence in order to see if a trial is needed (and against whom) Come March 20th, a court date will be set or he'll be released. Yes there is remand, I've always believed that to be for those thought to be a risk to themselves/others (yes I realsise he was firing a pellet gun at people) or a flight risk, they obviosly see him not to be a problem. Don't forget this is the Echo, so not expecting the full accurate unbiased facts to be reported ;)[/p][/quote]You can be bailed without being charged... "There are, therefore, principally two common types of bail: firstly when the defendant is bailed without charge, the police will allow the defendant to leave the police station, usually under certain restrictions or conditions, and the defendant will be given a bail return date to return to the police station. During the period in which the defendant is on bail, the police will carry out their investigations and then decide if the defendant will be charged when he returns for the bail return date" thatsmypoint
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8:21pm Sun 27 Jan 13

factbeforefiction says...

psorias wrote:
factbeforefiction wrote:
to add a bit more yes what this person or persons did was terrible and very very stupied
but we all sit on here commenting on these storys acting like non of us have ever done anything wrong in our lifes but most of us if we r honest will have done something bad or nasty to some one else even if u think it was nothing
and as much as i read the echo unfortunatly the reporters do not get ther whole story and of course we read far to much in to the head line i mean tower bloke sniper it makes them sound like a terrorist
Speak for yourself I Have never crossed the law as an adult. As a child I stole a black jack from the corner shop, bunked off school and played knock down ginger on april fools - You sound like you live in Southend where all this crime is about lately - Do you know all the culprits for all the stories the Echo has published ? Perhaps that is why you think it normal to shoot people in the head. Perhaps he was neglected of holidays as a child. We should send him on holiday then should we? You paying?
Right not once have I said it is normal and yesI live in Southend .all I was saying is that the public think they r judge jury and executioner from just reading one story . The person who shoot the poor lady should be punished but u me and the rest of us on here dont know for sure and to be honest nor do the police hence the man was bailed so the police can get as much evidence so they can charge the right person
[quote][p][bold]psorias[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]factbeforefiction[/bold] wrote: to add a bit more yes what this person or persons did was terrible and very very stupied but we all sit on here commenting on these storys acting like non of us have ever done anything wrong in our lifes but most of us if we r honest will have done something bad or nasty to some one else even if u think it was nothing and as much as i read the echo unfortunatly the reporters do not get ther whole story and of course we read far to much in to the head line i mean tower bloke sniper it makes them sound like a terrorist[/p][/quote]Speak for yourself I Have never crossed the law as an adult. As a child I stole a black jack from the corner shop, bunked off school and played knock down ginger on april fools - You sound like you live in Southend where all this crime is about lately - Do you know all the culprits for all the stories the Echo has published ? Perhaps that is why you think it normal to shoot people in the head. Perhaps he was neglected of holidays as a child. We should send him on holiday then should we? You paying?[/p][/quote]Right not once have I said it is normal and yesI live in Southend .all I was saying is that the public think they r judge jury and executioner from just reading one story . The person who shoot the poor lady should be punished but u me and the rest of us on here dont know for sure and to be honest nor do the police hence the man was bailed so the police can get as much evidence so they can charge the right person factbeforefiction
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8:55pm Sun 27 Jan 13

asbo. just the truth says...

has any crime been committed here except for that against the english language on this thread?
exam results and literacy are 2 trains passing in the night.
has any crime been committed here except for that against the english language on this thread? exam results and literacy are 2 trains passing in the night. asbo. just the truth
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9:28pm Sun 27 Jan 13

OMPITA [UK] says...

asbo. just the truth wrote:
has any crime been committed here except for that against the english language on this thread?
exam results and literacy are 2 trains passing in the night.
Good Grief!

With all this talk of ‘quantocks....quel surprise’; ‘shoebury clownski buck buck buck’ and ‘bindly left wing, chip carrying nutters’ I didn’t think that this was an English language forum.

That’s English with an upper case E by the way.

Forgive me, I thought I had stumbled onto Planet Zog.

గ్లాస్ హౌసెస్ నివసిం
ే ప్రజలు మస్ట్ నెవెర్ రాళ్ళు త్రో !!
[quote][p][bold]asbo. just the truth[/bold] wrote: has any crime been committed here except for that against the english language on this thread? exam results and literacy are 2 trains passing in the night.[/p][/quote]Good Grief! With all this talk of ‘quantocks....quel surprise’; ‘shoebury clownski buck buck buck’ and ‘bindly left wing, chip carrying nutters’ I didn’t think that this was an English language forum. That’s English with an upper case E by the way. Forgive me, I thought I had stumbled onto Planet Zog. గ్లాస్ హౌసెస్ నివసిం ే ప్రజలు మస్ట్ నెవెర్ రాళ్ళు త్రో !! OMPITA [UK]
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10:28pm Sun 27 Jan 13

asbo. just the truth says...

praise the lord for the gift of irony
(and literacy)
praise the lord for the gift of irony (and literacy) asbo. just the truth
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11:26pm Mon 28 Jan 13

Natter says...

Soouthchurch59 wrote:
Mocking those with dyslexia Isn't big and isn't fanny!
Sorry but this made me laugh out loud !
[quote][p][bold]Soouthchurch59[/bold] wrote: Mocking those with dyslexia Isn't big and isn't fanny![/p][/quote]Sorry but this made me laugh out loud ! Natter
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11:33pm Mon 28 Jan 13

Natter says...

So this person has been a sniper on a tower block with an air rifle ! If this was America we would all be seeing it live on CNN, but gratefully it is not so our local red top reports it as if the guy is O.J Simpson.

Just like to say the person who is responsible should be treated the same as any firearm offenders, if it means a prison sentence then he will learn a valuable lesson on ...... Er, how to become more of a criminal !

Way da go U.K !!!!! (purposely spelt incorrectly English and grammar police)
So this person has been a sniper on a tower block with an air rifle ! If this was America we would all be seeing it live on CNN, but gratefully it is not so our local red top reports it as if the guy is O.J Simpson. Just like to say the person who is responsible should be treated the same as any firearm offenders, if it means a prison sentence then he will learn a valuable lesson on ...... Er, how to become more of a criminal ! Way da go U.K !!!!! (purposely spelt incorrectly English and grammar police) Natter
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