Boss of garden centre calls for drains to be cleared in Crays Hill

Boss of garden centre calls for drains to be cleared in Crays Hill

Boss of garden centre calls for drains to be cleared in Crays Hill

First published in Echo News by

A FAMILY run garden centre which has been open for 26 years say trade is being hit because the persistent flooding in Crays Hill.

The Elms Nursery which is based in Harding Elms Road, has three generations of the Lever family running it, and say the drains on the road are so badly maintained grass is growing out of them and they are totally blocked by mud and silt.

Dave Lever, 70, runs the business with his son Jason and his daughter Danielle, 19, and they say everytime it rains their trade is badly hit because the flooding puts people off visiting the centre.

Dave said: “The flooding is getting to be beyond a joke and everytime we report it to the council the road ends up looking like swimming pool.

“The roads are so low lying and with the drains totally blocked it has got nowhere to go except surround the garden centre and it makes us look like we are on an island.

“The drains are filled with mud and there is even grass growing out of some of them which floods the road. The water floods our carpark and it puts people off coming in.

“We have not been as busy as we should be because we have not been able to put out all our Christmas plants out because of the flood water. We just want something done to sort this out.” I

It was not just Crays Hill hit by surface water flooding because of the heavy rain on Thursday- roads near Barleylands in Billericay were also badly hit and the subway on Broadmayne in Basildon town centre was also flooded.

David Mcpherson-Davies, chairman of Ramsden Crays Parish Council, said: “I have been speaking to Essex County Council for a couple of years and our complaints just fall on deaf ears.

“The situation is ridiculous and they really just need to be cleared out because no water can drain down them at all. It is so bad you can even see the grass growing the drains.”

A spokesman for Essex County Council added: "We are aware that recent heavy rainfall in some areas has caused some flooding issues and will investigate individual issues as and when we are alerted to them to establish why surface water is not draining away.

"We have not received any reports specifically about Hardings Elms Road however we will visit this site as a matter of urgency to try and identify the root of the problem here and will liaise with the landowner, Environment Agency and/or Anglian Water as necessary to establish who is responsible."

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11:01am Mon 24 Dec 12

EthanEdwards says...

I suggest he tells the council it's possibly a mild inconvenince for our 'non' travelling friends.
Then the Council will be falling over themselves to throw as much as possible of our money at the problem.
I suggest he tells the council it's possibly a mild inconvenince for our 'non' travelling friends. Then the Council will be falling over themselves to throw as much as possible of our money at the problem. EthanEdwards
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11:34am Mon 24 Dec 12

Brunning999 says...

This guy really needs all the help he can get, attracting anyone brave enough to go near that area is hard enough.
This guy really needs all the help he can get, attracting anyone brave enough to go near that area is hard enough. Brunning999
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12:27pm Mon 24 Dec 12

Eric Whim says...

the day they clear those drains will probably be the day they've found a few nice green fields to build more houses on nearby
the day they clear those drains will probably be the day they've found a few nice green fields to build more houses on nearby Eric Whim
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1:01pm Tue 25 Dec 12

Carnabackable says...

Remember this area is not a residential one, and thus cannot expect the same high service, perhaps this peat seller could contribute a little more
Remember this area is not a residential one, and thus cannot expect the same high service, perhaps this peat seller could contribute a little more Carnabackable
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11:37pm Tue 25 Dec 12

essexlady says...

Carnabackable says...
1:01pm Tue 25 Dec 12
Remember this area is not a residential one, and thus cannot expect the same high service, perhaps this peat seller could contribute a little more========

Nonsense. There are several houses in Harding Elms Road, plus the Belvedere. Elms Nursery and and all the rest pay RATES, and are entitled to proper services. Also the road is a public road and when flooded can be impassable and I know as I drive along it every day. And for your information Elms Nursery is a business and would pay higher commercial rates.

I guess you are probably not a rate payer or you would understand.
Carnabackable says... 1:01pm Tue 25 Dec 12 Remember this area is not a residential one, and thus cannot expect the same high service, perhaps this peat seller could contribute a little more======== Nonsense. There are several houses in Harding Elms Road, plus the Belvedere. Elms Nursery and and all the rest pay RATES, and are entitled to proper services. Also the road is a public road and when flooded can be impassable and I know as I drive along it every day. And for your information Elms Nursery is a business and would pay higher commercial rates. I guess you are probably not a rate payer or you would understand. essexlady
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11:52pm Wed 26 Dec 12

Lastlaugh... says...

EthanEdwards wrote:
I suggest he tells the council it's possibly a mild inconvenince for our 'non' travelling friends.
Then the Council will be falling over themselves to throw as much as possible of our money at the problem.
Are you suggesting the council, led by Beach Ball head, would discriminate against people given the epithet Travellers?
[quote][p][bold]EthanEdwards[/bold] wrote: I suggest he tells the council it's possibly a mild inconvenince for our 'non' travelling friends. Then the Council will be falling over themselves to throw as much as possible of our money at the problem.[/p][/quote]Are you suggesting the council, led by Beach Ball head, would discriminate against people given the epithet Travellers? Lastlaugh...
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1:13am Thu 27 Dec 12

EthanEdwards says...

Dear finalgiggle, EXACTLY the opposite. You'll continue to receive you preferential treatment with us legitimate council tax payers cash librally hosed into your undeserving maw. Do hope thats clear enough for you.

Keep playing your race card dear boy.
Dear finalgiggle, EXACTLY the opposite. You'll continue to receive you preferential treatment with us legitimate council tax payers cash librally hosed into your undeserving maw. Do hope thats clear enough for you. Keep playing your race card dear boy. EthanEdwards
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1:39am Thu 27 Dec 12

Lastlaugh... says...

EthanEdwards wrote:
Dear finalgiggle, EXACTLY the opposite. You'll continue to receive you preferential treatment with us legitimate council tax payers cash librally hosed into your undeserving maw. Do hope thats clear enough for you.

Keep playing your race card dear boy.
Oh hate filled fool.."preferential treatment"

Are you as warped as to suggest the £23,000.000+ spent to ousted people from their home's was spent to benefit them?

Or that the next millions spent to continue the 'benefit' will be spent to better the beleaguered people?

The people of the defunct site were themselves council tax payers too. Do you disbelieve the council when they say that?

How is council tac delivered to the people you malign in your disgusting hate?

You are certainly very sick of mind and that must be clear to all.
[quote][p][bold]EthanEdwards[/bold] wrote: Dear finalgiggle, EXACTLY the opposite. You'll continue to receive you preferential treatment with us legitimate council tax payers cash librally hosed into your undeserving maw. Do hope thats clear enough for you. Keep playing your race card dear boy.[/p][/quote]Oh hate filled fool.."preferential treatment" Are you as warped as to suggest the £23,000.000+ spent to ousted people from their home's was spent to benefit them? Or that the next millions spent to continue the 'benefit' will be spent to better the beleaguered people? The people of the defunct site were themselves council tax payers too. Do you disbelieve the council when they say that? How is council tac delivered to the people you malign in your disgusting hate? You are certainly very sick of mind and that must be clear to all. Lastlaugh...
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1:40am Thu 27 Dec 12

Lastlaugh... says...

*tax*
*tax* Lastlaugh...
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1:13pm Fri 28 Dec 12

EthanEdwards says...

Dear finaldribble. My major beef is with the council that treats you lot with such largesse. That and the total lack of self respect of 'serial payout claimants' from any community.

Example. You get provided free of charge, a door to door minibus service to to take your small 'benefit claimants' to school, irrespective of the fact that you plainly do not meet the same criteria that the settled community do. ie living 3 miles or more from school.

Preferential treatment.

Second example - you are to be just given land and a grant to build with. I await your examples of where any ANY settled person is just given free public land and free cash.

Preferential treatment.


So there's my two examples.
Do feel free to let me know IF I have the FACTS incorrect or provide your examples.

So what council tax band did an illegal structure fall into then? Proof of payment please.

Do keep playing the poor victim card...see this...it's the worlds smallest violin and it's playing just for you old sport.
Dear finaldribble. My major beef is with the council that treats you lot with such largesse. That and the total lack of self respect of 'serial payout claimants' from any community. Example. You get provided free of charge, a door to door minibus service to to take your small 'benefit claimants' to school, irrespective of the fact that you plainly do not meet the same criteria that the settled community do. ie living 3 miles or more from school. Preferential treatment. Second example - you are to be just given land and a grant to build with. I await your examples of where any ANY settled person is just given free public land and free cash. Preferential treatment. So there's my two examples. Do feel free to let me know IF I have the FACTS incorrect or provide your examples. So what council tax band did an illegal structure fall into then? Proof of payment please. Do keep playing the poor victim card...see this...it's the worlds smallest violin and it's playing just for you old sport. EthanEdwards
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8:51pm Fri 28 Dec 12

Lastlaugh... says...

EthanEdwards wrote:
Dear finaldribble. My major beef is with the council that treats you lot with such largesse. That and the total lack of self respect of 'serial payout claimants' from any community.

Example. You get provided free of charge, a door to door minibus service to to take your small 'benefit claimants' to school, irrespective of the fact that you plainly do not meet the same criteria that the settled community do. ie living 3 miles or more from school.

Preferential treatment.

Second example - you are to be just given land and a grant to build with. I await your examples of where any ANY settled person is just given free public land and free cash.

Preferential treatment.


So there's my two examples.
Do feel free to let me know IF I have the FACTS incorrect or provide your examples.

So what council tax band did an illegal structure fall into then? Proof of payment please.

Do keep playing the poor victim card...see this...it's the worlds smallest violin and it's playing just for you old sport.
Dear quibbling Fool. If there wasn't a necessity for the minibus and if there wasn't a policy in place to provide then it wouldn't be provided!

Have you taken this and any other beef up with the council or just moaned and groaned like an old manure splattered barn door? If not why not?

Have you any proof that there is such a thing as 'serial payout claimants' in any community or is this just Daily Fail gibberish?
Have you any evidence that people who are claimants are not entitled to be such?
Or is it your opinion no one should be entitled or only certain people.

If this is the case shouldn't you be standing for some sort of office to bring this about instead of moaning and groaning like a etc etc

Who is being given land and a grant?
I think you have a simplistic view of what is occurring and really dont understand anything to any degree about the issue!

On saying that a land swop was suggested by the Dale Farm people.. which would of saved £23,000,000+ But Mr Beach Ball wasn't interested in that. Who's to blame for that?

As for what council tax was payable..thats information for you to ask for from the council. If you go back in the papers archives you will see the council stating council tax was payable and paid by the residents..are you suggesting the council is lying? If so take them up on it rather than moaning and groaning like a...etc etc.

No one is claiming anything but you..and you dont seems to know your elbow from your answers! LOL.
[quote][p][bold]EthanEdwards[/bold] wrote: Dear finaldribble. My major beef is with the council that treats you lot with such largesse. That and the total lack of self respect of 'serial payout claimants' from any community. Example. You get provided free of charge, a door to door minibus service to to take your small 'benefit claimants' to school, irrespective of the fact that you plainly do not meet the same criteria that the settled community do. ie living 3 miles or more from school. Preferential treatment. Second example - you are to be just given land and a grant to build with. I await your examples of where any ANY settled person is just given free public land and free cash. Preferential treatment. So there's my two examples. Do feel free to let me know IF I have the FACTS incorrect or provide your examples. So what council tax band did an illegal structure fall into then? Proof of payment please. Do keep playing the poor victim card...see this...it's the worlds smallest violin and it's playing just for you old sport.[/p][/quote]Dear quibbling Fool. If there wasn't a necessity for the minibus and if there wasn't a policy in place to provide then it wouldn't be provided! Have you taken this and any other beef up with the council or just moaned and groaned like an old manure splattered barn door? If not why not? Have you any proof that there is such a thing as 'serial payout claimants' in any community or is this just Daily Fail gibberish? Have you any evidence that people who are claimants are not entitled to be such? Or is it your opinion no one should be entitled or only certain people. If this is the case shouldn't you be standing for some sort of office to bring this about instead of moaning and groaning like a etc etc Who is being given land and a grant? I think you have a simplistic view of what is occurring and really dont understand anything to any degree about the issue! On saying that a land swop was suggested by the Dale Farm people.. which would of saved £23,000,000+ But Mr Beach Ball wasn't interested in that. Who's to blame for that? As for what council tax was payable..thats information for you to ask for from the council. If you go back in the papers archives you will see the council stating council tax was payable and paid by the residents..are you suggesting the council is lying? If so take them up on it rather than moaning and groaning like a...etc etc. No one is claiming anything but you..and you dont seems to know your elbow from your answers! LOL. Lastlaugh...
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12:57am Sat 29 Dec 12

Kim Gandy says...

Oh I can't IMAGINE why he should have a problem with drains. As for Last Laugh above, I DID stand for "some sort of office" a few times when I lived in Crays Hill but the apathetics who live there kept voting in the same old same old. Stop defending the indefensible. I was a governor in that school and I KNOW what went on rather better than you do, so I'd pipe down if I were you.
Oh I can't IMAGINE why he should have a problem with drains. As for Last Laugh above, I DID stand for "some sort of office" a few times when I lived in Crays Hill but the apathetics who live there kept voting in the same old same old. Stop defending the indefensible. I was a governor in that school and I KNOW what went on rather better than you do, so I'd pipe down if I were you. Kim Gandy
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3:02pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Lastlaugh... says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
Oh I can't IMAGINE why he should have a problem with drains. As for Last Laugh above, I DID stand for "some sort of office" a few times when I lived in Crays Hill but the apathetics who live there kept voting in the same old same old. Stop defending the indefensible. I was a governor in that school and I KNOW what went on rather better than you do, so I'd pipe down if I were you.
It would seem they dispersed with your services on both occasions!

Of course if people didn't vote for you then thats more a reflection on YOU not them. They cant all be wrong can they?

Just because you find something indefensible it doesn't mean others do..perhaps this attitude of yours is why you no longer hold any sort of office at all.

The school is there employing people and with governors and parents who are dedicated to it and its pupils! The fact that you are not part of it probably accounts fo the good relations between staff, governors and parents.

Certain attitudes are so out of date!
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: Oh I can't IMAGINE why he should have a problem with drains. As for Last Laugh above, I DID stand for "some sort of office" a few times when I lived in Crays Hill but the apathetics who live there kept voting in the same old same old. Stop defending the indefensible. I was a governor in that school and I KNOW what went on rather better than you do, so I'd pipe down if I were you.[/p][/quote]It would seem they dispersed with your services on both occasions! Of course if people didn't vote for you then thats more a reflection on YOU not them. They cant all be wrong can they? Just because you find something indefensible it doesn't mean others do..perhaps this attitude of yours is why you no longer hold any sort of office at all. The school is there employing people and with governors and parents who are dedicated to it and its pupils! The fact that you are not part of it probably accounts fo the good relations between staff, governors and parents. Certain attitudes are so out of date! Lastlaugh...
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10:03pm Sat 29 Dec 12

EthanEdwards says...

Makes my day knowing just how upset the simple truth makes finaldribble. Well get used to it dribbly since your racist rantings are hilarious.
Makes my day knowing just how upset the simple truth makes finaldribble. Well get used to it dribbly since your racist rantings are hilarious. EthanEdwards
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9:39pm Fri 4 Jan 13

Lastlaugh... says...

EthanEdwards wrote:
Makes my day knowing just how upset the simple truth makes finaldribble. Well get used to it dribbly since your racist rantings are hilarious.
Oh what a strange moron you are...you post bull, demand its truth and then make racist accusations when all your pots are based on your hatred of another community..you are without a doubt one main road sicko..as mentioned.. so 2011...as in out of date!
[quote][p][bold]EthanEdwards[/bold] wrote: Makes my day knowing just how upset the simple truth makes finaldribble. Well get used to it dribbly since your racist rantings are hilarious.[/p][/quote]Oh what a strange moron you are...you post bull, demand its truth and then make racist accusations when all your pots are based on your hatred of another community..you are without a doubt one main road sicko..as mentioned.. so 2011...as in out of date! Lastlaugh...
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