Sinking feeling for new floating restaurant plan

First published in News

PLANNERS look set to sink ambitious proposals for a “floating” restaurant on Southend seafront over fears about its size.

Officers have recommended Southend Council refuse plans to transform the singlestorey KJ’s cafe near the Genting Club, in Western Esplanade, Westcliff, into a modern restaurant that projects out over the foreshore, giving the impression it is floating when the tide is in.

Business leaders hoped the two-storey restaurant would attract more visitors to the area, but officers fear it would block sea views.

However, that view has been criticised by the creators of the modern plans who pointed out other developments are being built along the seafront. Paul Seager, the Southend architect behind the design, said: “We have designed it to keep open views, with glass and sliding doors.

“We have gone to great effort to keep the openness and character.

“If you look at the kiosk there now, it’s an old building and this was an opportunity to bring in an iconic building that would contribute to the regeneration of the seafront.”

He then hit out at the fact other developments were allowed, such as the Thames Estuary Yacht Club, which is putting the finishing touches to a new, two-storey clubhouse just a few hundred metres along Western Esplande.

Mr Seager, of APS Design Associates, added: “We are amazed they could allow the new Thames Estuary Yacht Club clubhouse further up and then refuse this.”

The planned restaurant, the bulk of which would be the existing kiosk, would have a dual-level upper deck, but the upstairs would have no walls or roof to limit its impact.

A side extension would be glazed to maintain picturesque sea views.

Mr Seager, acting on behalf of developer Emmanuel Popat, compared the proposed restaurant to other high-quality seafront buildings, such as the redeveloped Genting Casino and the Toulouse restaurant.

Paul Thompson, chairman of Southend Seafront Traders’ Association, said: “The restaurant looked nice and it would bring more people to the town. It would attract jobs and investment.”

However, not everyone is a fan of the project.

Julian Ware-Lane, Labour councillor for Milton, said: “I have reservations about building anything on the foreshore.

“It’s an interesting building, but I’m not enamoured and if the officers’ opinion is endorsed by the committee I would be happy.”

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11:53am Sat 1 Feb 14

Britanniaman says...

change subject how comes when there is ever anything to do with a mosque or travelers or a Indian looking guy we are not allowed to comment? But when its about a church or a white English guy we are allowed to comment?
change subject how comes when there is ever anything to do with a mosque or travelers or a Indian looking guy we are not allowed to comment? But when its about a church or a white English guy we are allowed to comment? Britanniaman
  • Score: 15

12:11pm Sat 1 Feb 14

Britanniaman says...

OK back to this i agree it should only stay at singlestorey as the owner of adventure island was only given permission to have built his restaurant singlestorey due to the same reasons also if they wanted it two- storey it would of been better if the designers would of thought of digging down would of been cool to look under water through glass windows when tide was in.
OK back to this i agree it should only stay at singlestorey as the owner of adventure island was only given permission to have built his restaurant singlestorey due to the same reasons also if they wanted it two- storey it would of been better if the designers would of thought of digging down would of been cool to look under water through glass windows when tide was in. Britanniaman
  • Score: 5

3:41pm Sat 1 Feb 14

You'dfeelbetterforknowingthat says...

Britanniaman wrote:
change subject how comes when there is ever anything to do with a mosque or travelers or a Indian looking guy we are not allowed to comment? But when its about a church or a white English guy we are allowed to comment?
DoH, Because we are not an ethnic minority.
[quote][p][bold]Britanniaman[/bold] wrote: change subject how comes when there is ever anything to do with a mosque or travelers or a Indian looking guy we are not allowed to comment? But when its about a church or a white English guy we are allowed to comment?[/p][/quote]DoH, Because we are not an ethnic minority. You'dfeelbetterforknowingthat
  • Score: 1

4:07pm Sat 1 Feb 14

Keptquiettillnow says...

What sort of jobs would it attract, more zero hour minimum wage jobs?
What sort of jobs would it attract, more zero hour minimum wage jobs? Keptquiettillnow
  • Score: 6

4:32pm Sat 1 Feb 14

DogsMessInLeigh says...

i think it looks great and would be a good addition to that section of seafront..much better than the old shack there now and the smell of old cooking fat/oil will dissappear too.
not sure about the looking under the water suggestion...that might put you off your food seeing dirty water with allsorts floating in front of you.

so my vote is a Thumbs up for this one, if those tall pointed light columns and concrete city beach are ok then this should be too.
i think it looks great and would be a good addition to that section of seafront..much better than the old shack there now and the smell of old cooking fat/oil will dissappear too. not sure about the looking under the water suggestion...that might put you off your food seeing dirty water with allsorts floating in front of you. so my vote is a Thumbs up for this one, if those tall pointed light columns and concrete city beach are ok then this should be too. DogsMessInLeigh
  • Score: -1

4:33pm Sat 1 Feb 14

tezzason1 says...

I grew up in Southend as a child and emigrated to Australia to improve the bloodline many years ago. I have many happy memories of swimming in the open air pool on the western esplanade.I used Google earth to go down memory lane recently and was horrified to see that it is now an upmarket club and casino. Can someone please explain to me how a prime piece of absolute beachfront public property was allowed to fall into private hands.? . And please don't tell me money was used to fund the indoor heated pool which I tagged as well. Weather proof perhaps but it would not even begin to stack up against the location of the old pool and its open air environment. Very sad to see
I grew up in Southend as a child and emigrated to Australia to improve the bloodline many years ago. I have many happy memories of swimming in the open air pool on the western esplanade.I used Google earth to go down memory lane recently and was horrified to see that it is now an upmarket club and casino. Can someone please explain to me how a prime piece of absolute beachfront public property was allowed to fall into private hands.? . And please don't tell me money was used to fund the indoor heated pool which I tagged as well. Weather proof perhaps but it would not even begin to stack up against the location of the old pool and its open air environment. Very sad to see tezzason1
  • Score: 7

6:15pm Sat 1 Feb 14

jolllyboy says...

Soon it wont be worth going down to the sea because we wont be ble to see it for buildings.
Soon it wont be worth going down to the sea because we wont be ble to see it for buildings. jolllyboy
  • Score: 4

8:01pm Sat 1 Feb 14

DogsMessInLeigh says...

tezzason1 wrote:
I grew up in Southend as a child and emigrated to Australia to improve the bloodline many years ago. I have many happy memories of swimming in the open air pool on the western esplanade.I used Google earth to go down memory lane recently and was horrified to see that it is now an upmarket club and casino. Can someone please explain to me how a prime piece of absolute beachfront public property was allowed to fall into private hands.? . And please don't tell me money was used to fund the indoor heated pool which I tagged as well. Weather proof perhaps but it would not even begin to stack up against the location of the old pool and its open air environment. Very sad to see
The pool went many many moons back, it turned into a nightclub and this lead naturally onto a Casino, open air pools might be great in Oz...but not a cold grey windswept Southend on sea i'm afraid, plus no money in it.
[quote][p][bold]tezzason1[/bold] wrote: I grew up in Southend as a child and emigrated to Australia to improve the bloodline many years ago. I have many happy memories of swimming in the open air pool on the western esplanade.I used Google earth to go down memory lane recently and was horrified to see that it is now an upmarket club and casino. Can someone please explain to me how a prime piece of absolute beachfront public property was allowed to fall into private hands.? . And please don't tell me money was used to fund the indoor heated pool which I tagged as well. Weather proof perhaps but it would not even begin to stack up against the location of the old pool and its open air environment. Very sad to see[/p][/quote]The pool went many many moons back, it turned into a nightclub and this lead naturally onto a Casino, open air pools might be great in Oz...but not a cold grey windswept Southend on sea i'm afraid, plus no money in it. DogsMessInLeigh
  • Score: 0

8:37pm Sat 1 Feb 14

Joe Clark says...

tezzason1 wrote:
I grew up in Southend as a child and emigrated to Australia to improve the bloodline many years ago. I have many happy memories of swimming in the open air pool on the western esplanade.I used Google earth to go down memory lane recently and was horrified to see that it is now an upmarket club and casino. Can someone please explain to me how a prime piece of absolute beachfront public property was allowed to fall into private hands.? . And please don't tell me money was used to fund the indoor heated pool which I tagged as well. Weather proof perhaps but it would not even begin to stack up against the location of the old pool and its open air environment. Very sad to see
May I direct you to this website:

http://www.southendt
imeline.com/dolphina
riums.htm

I would recommend you check out the rest of the site as it is a fascinating site.
[quote][p][bold]tezzason1[/bold] wrote: I grew up in Southend as a child and emigrated to Australia to improve the bloodline many years ago. I have many happy memories of swimming in the open air pool on the western esplanade.I used Google earth to go down memory lane recently and was horrified to see that it is now an upmarket club and casino. Can someone please explain to me how a prime piece of absolute beachfront public property was allowed to fall into private hands.? . And please don't tell me money was used to fund the indoor heated pool which I tagged as well. Weather proof perhaps but it would not even begin to stack up against the location of the old pool and its open air environment. Very sad to see[/p][/quote]May I direct you to this website: http://www.southendt imeline.com/dolphina riums.htm I would recommend you check out the rest of the site as it is a fascinating site. Joe Clark
  • Score: 2

8:43pm Sat 1 Feb 14

Joe Clark says...

jolllyboy wrote:
Soon it wont be worth going down to the sea because we wont be ble to see it for buildings.
At least that way we will not see your miserable mug down there!

Do you seriously believe that the front will be completely developed all the way along so that there are no sea views exist from Shoebury to Leigh.

Please do not forgive me whilst I laugh at you for all eternity.
[quote][p][bold]jolllyboy[/bold] wrote: Soon it wont be worth going down to the sea because we wont be ble to see it for buildings.[/p][/quote]At least that way we will not see your miserable mug down there! Do you seriously believe that the front will be completely developed all the way along so that there are no sea views exist from Shoebury to Leigh. Please do not forgive me whilst I laugh at you for all eternity. Joe Clark
  • Score: -3

8:58pm Sat 1 Feb 14

DogsMessInLeigh says...

Joe Clark wrote:
tezzason1 wrote:
I grew up in Southend as a child and emigrated to Australia to improve the bloodline many years ago. I have many happy memories of swimming in the open air pool on the western esplanade.I used Google earth to go down memory lane recently and was horrified to see that it is now an upmarket club and casino. Can someone please explain to me how a prime piece of absolute beachfront public property was allowed to fall into private hands.? . And please don't tell me money was used to fund the indoor heated pool which I tagged as well. Weather proof perhaps but it would not even begin to stack up against the location of the old pool and its open air environment. Very sad to see
May I direct you to this website:

http://www.southendt

imeline.com/dolphina

riums.htm

I would recommend you check out the rest of the site as it is a fascinating site.
just viewed 35 pics of London Road,
loved this one of the people sitting outside Westcliff Library...now those women have been replaced by drunks..

http://www.southendt
imeline.com/apps/pho
tos/photo?photoid=10
1341737

think i recognized something in almost every photo and knew where each photo was, amazing how much is still around today, London Road looked grand in those days.
[quote][p][bold]Joe Clark[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tezzason1[/bold] wrote: I grew up in Southend as a child and emigrated to Australia to improve the bloodline many years ago. I have many happy memories of swimming in the open air pool on the western esplanade.I used Google earth to go down memory lane recently and was horrified to see that it is now an upmarket club and casino. Can someone please explain to me how a prime piece of absolute beachfront public property was allowed to fall into private hands.? . And please don't tell me money was used to fund the indoor heated pool which I tagged as well. Weather proof perhaps but it would not even begin to stack up against the location of the old pool and its open air environment. Very sad to see[/p][/quote]May I direct you to this website: http://www.southendt imeline.com/dolphina riums.htm I would recommend you check out the rest of the site as it is a fascinating site.[/p][/quote]just viewed 35 pics of London Road, loved this one of the people sitting outside Westcliff Library...now those women have been replaced by drunks.. http://www.southendt imeline.com/apps/pho tos/photo?photoid=10 1341737 think i recognized something in almost every photo and knew where each photo was, amazing how much is still around today, London Road looked grand in those days. DogsMessInLeigh
  • Score: 4

2:58pm Sun 2 Feb 14

tezzason1 says...

DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
Joe Clark wrote:
tezzason1 wrote:
I grew up in Southend as a child and emigrated to Australia to improve the bloodline many years ago. I have many happy memories of swimming in the open air pool on the western esplanade.I used Google earth to go down memory lane recently and was horrified to see that it is now an upmarket club and casino. Can someone please explain to me how a prime piece of absolute beachfront public property was allowed to fall into private hands.? . And please don't tell me money was used to fund the indoor heated pool which I tagged as well. Weather proof perhaps but it would not even begin to stack up against the location of the old pool and its open air environment. Very sad to see
May I direct you to this website:

http://www.southendt


imeline.com/dolphina


riums.htm

I would recommend you check out the rest of the site as it is a fascinating site.
just viewed 35 pics of London Road,
loved this one of the people sitting outside Westcliff Library...now those women have been replaced by drunks..

http://www.southendt

imeline.com/apps/pho

tos/photo?photoid=10

1341737

think i recognized something in almost every photo and knew where each photo was, amazing how much is still around today, London Road looked grand in those days.
For DogsMessInLeigh and Joe Clark. Thank you for your response and I will check out the sites you recommended. Using Google earth highlighted many positive improvements over the years. Especially the upgrade in the vicinity of Pier Hill. Sad to see the small crop farms are gone. But I guess that is progress?As 8 year olds we used to raid the strawberry farm at night and wear dark clothing so if the farmer came out we would be hard to see. Now it is a carpark with a supermarket. I figured it to be a supermarket as Tesco have painted ( I presume paint) a massive big "Tesco" sign on the roof of the complex. Great place to have a sign if you dont want to annoy people with visual pollution.
[quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joe Clark[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tezzason1[/bold] wrote: I grew up in Southend as a child and emigrated to Australia to improve the bloodline many years ago. I have many happy memories of swimming in the open air pool on the western esplanade.I used Google earth to go down memory lane recently and was horrified to see that it is now an upmarket club and casino. Can someone please explain to me how a prime piece of absolute beachfront public property was allowed to fall into private hands.? . And please don't tell me money was used to fund the indoor heated pool which I tagged as well. Weather proof perhaps but it would not even begin to stack up against the location of the old pool and its open air environment. Very sad to see[/p][/quote]May I direct you to this website: http://www.southendt imeline.com/dolphina riums.htm I would recommend you check out the rest of the site as it is a fascinating site.[/p][/quote]just viewed 35 pics of London Road, loved this one of the people sitting outside Westcliff Library...now those women have been replaced by drunks.. http://www.southendt imeline.com/apps/pho tos/photo?photoid=10 1341737 think i recognized something in almost every photo and knew where each photo was, amazing how much is still around today, London Road looked grand in those days.[/p][/quote]For DogsMessInLeigh and Joe Clark. Thank you for your response and I will check out the sites you recommended. Using Google earth highlighted many positive improvements over the years. Especially the upgrade in the vicinity of Pier Hill. Sad to see the small crop farms are gone. But I guess that is progress?As 8 year olds we used to raid the strawberry farm at night and wear dark clothing so if the farmer came out we would be hard to see. Now it is a carpark with a supermarket. I figured it to be a supermarket as Tesco have painted ( I presume paint) a massive big "Tesco" sign on the roof of the complex. Great place to have a sign if you dont want to annoy people with visual pollution. tezzason1
  • Score: 1

8:28am Mon 3 Feb 14

pembury53 says...

tezzason1 wrote:
DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
Joe Clark wrote:
tezzason1 wrote: I grew up in Southend as a child and emigrated to Australia to improve the bloodline many years ago. I have many happy memories of swimming in the open air pool on the western esplanade.I used Google earth to go down memory lane recently and was horrified to see that it is now an upmarket club and casino. Can someone please explain to me how a prime piece of absolute beachfront public property was allowed to fall into private hands.? . And please don't tell me money was used to fund the indoor heated pool which I tagged as well. Weather proof perhaps but it would not even begin to stack up against the location of the old pool and its open air environment. Very sad to see
May I direct you to this website: http://www.southendt imeline.com/dolphina riums.htm I would recommend you check out the rest of the site as it is a fascinating site.
just viewed 35 pics of London Road, loved this one of the people sitting outside Westcliff Library...now those women have been replaced by drunks.. http://www.southendt imeline.com/apps/pho tos/photo?photoid=10 1341737 think i recognized something in almost every photo and knew where each photo was, amazing how much is still around today, London Road looked grand in those days.
For DogsMessInLeigh and Joe Clark. Thank you for your response and I will check out the sites you recommended. Using Google earth highlighted many positive improvements over the years. Especially the upgrade in the vicinity of Pier Hill. Sad to see the small crop farms are gone. But I guess that is progress?As 8 year olds we used to raid the strawberry farm at night and wear dark clothing so if the farmer came out we would be hard to see. Now it is a carpark with a supermarket. I figured it to be a supermarket as Tesco have painted ( I presume paint) a massive big "Tesco" sign on the roof of the complex. Great place to have a sign if you dont want to annoy people with visual pollution.
looking at old pictures of the pier entrance and the lovely old ironwork bridge, i'm not sure it's really an 'upgrade', but not all bad....
[quote][p][bold]tezzason1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joe Clark[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tezzason1[/bold] wrote: I grew up in Southend as a child and emigrated to Australia to improve the bloodline many years ago. I have many happy memories of swimming in the open air pool on the western esplanade.I used Google earth to go down memory lane recently and was horrified to see that it is now an upmarket club and casino. Can someone please explain to me how a prime piece of absolute beachfront public property was allowed to fall into private hands.? . And please don't tell me money was used to fund the indoor heated pool which I tagged as well. Weather proof perhaps but it would not even begin to stack up against the location of the old pool and its open air environment. Very sad to see[/p][/quote]May I direct you to this website: http://www.southendt imeline.com/dolphina riums.htm I would recommend you check out the rest of the site as it is a fascinating site.[/p][/quote]just viewed 35 pics of London Road, loved this one of the people sitting outside Westcliff Library...now those women have been replaced by drunks.. http://www.southendt imeline.com/apps/pho tos/photo?photoid=10 1341737 think i recognized something in almost every photo and knew where each photo was, amazing how much is still around today, London Road looked grand in those days.[/p][/quote]For DogsMessInLeigh and Joe Clark. Thank you for your response and I will check out the sites you recommended. Using Google earth highlighted many positive improvements over the years. Especially the upgrade in the vicinity of Pier Hill. Sad to see the small crop farms are gone. But I guess that is progress?As 8 year olds we used to raid the strawberry farm at night and wear dark clothing so if the farmer came out we would be hard to see. Now it is a carpark with a supermarket. I figured it to be a supermarket as Tesco have painted ( I presume paint) a massive big "Tesco" sign on the roof of the complex. Great place to have a sign if you dont want to annoy people with visual pollution.[/p][/quote]looking at old pictures of the pier entrance and the lovely old ironwork bridge, i'm not sure it's really an 'upgrade', but not all bad.... pembury53
  • Score: 0

9:45am Mon 3 Feb 14

DogsMessInLeigh says...

tezzason1 wrote:
DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
Joe Clark wrote:
tezzason1 wrote:
I grew up in Southend as a child and emigrated to Australia to improve the bloodline many years ago. I have many happy memories of swimming in the open air pool on the western esplanade.I used Google earth to go down memory lane recently and was horrified to see that it is now an upmarket club and casino. Can someone please explain to me how a prime piece of absolute beachfront public property was allowed to fall into private hands.? . And please don't tell me money was used to fund the indoor heated pool which I tagged as well. Weather proof perhaps but it would not even begin to stack up against the location of the old pool and its open air environment. Very sad to see
May I direct you to this website:

http://www.southendt



imeline.com/dolphina



riums.htm

I would recommend you check out the rest of the site as it is a fascinating site.
just viewed 35 pics of London Road,
loved this one of the people sitting outside Westcliff Library...now those women have been replaced by drunks..

http://www.southendt


imeline.com/apps/pho


tos/photo?photoid=10


1341737

think i recognized something in almost every photo and knew where each photo was, amazing how much is still around today, London Road looked grand in those days.
For DogsMessInLeigh and Joe Clark. Thank you for your response and I will check out the sites you recommended. Using Google earth highlighted many positive improvements over the years. Especially the upgrade in the vicinity of Pier Hill. Sad to see the small crop farms are gone. But I guess that is progress?As 8 year olds we used to raid the strawberry farm at night and wear dark clothing so if the farmer came out we would be hard to see. Now it is a carpark with a supermarket. I figured it to be a supermarket as Tesco have painted ( I presume paint) a massive big "Tesco" sign on the roof of the complex. Great place to have a sign if you dont want to annoy people with visual pollution.
Ahhh yes Theres a Pub/Rest there now called 'Strawberry field', also Home to RBS banking and a Motel/Hotel and of course a Large Tesco as you saw on Google Earth, the sign is a clever one by Tesco as the Planes all fly over many times daily now with the airport expansion.
[quote][p][bold]tezzason1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joe Clark[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tezzason1[/bold] wrote: I grew up in Southend as a child and emigrated to Australia to improve the bloodline many years ago. I have many happy memories of swimming in the open air pool on the western esplanade.I used Google earth to go down memory lane recently and was horrified to see that it is now an upmarket club and casino. Can someone please explain to me how a prime piece of absolute beachfront public property was allowed to fall into private hands.? . And please don't tell me money was used to fund the indoor heated pool which I tagged as well. Weather proof perhaps but it would not even begin to stack up against the location of the old pool and its open air environment. Very sad to see[/p][/quote]May I direct you to this website: http://www.southendt imeline.com/dolphina riums.htm I would recommend you check out the rest of the site as it is a fascinating site.[/p][/quote]just viewed 35 pics of London Road, loved this one of the people sitting outside Westcliff Library...now those women have been replaced by drunks.. http://www.southendt imeline.com/apps/pho tos/photo?photoid=10 1341737 think i recognized something in almost every photo and knew where each photo was, amazing how much is still around today, London Road looked grand in those days.[/p][/quote]For DogsMessInLeigh and Joe Clark. Thank you for your response and I will check out the sites you recommended. Using Google earth highlighted many positive improvements over the years. Especially the upgrade in the vicinity of Pier Hill. Sad to see the small crop farms are gone. But I guess that is progress?As 8 year olds we used to raid the strawberry farm at night and wear dark clothing so if the farmer came out we would be hard to see. Now it is a carpark with a supermarket. I figured it to be a supermarket as Tesco have painted ( I presume paint) a massive big "Tesco" sign on the roof of the complex. Great place to have a sign if you dont want to annoy people with visual pollution.[/p][/quote]Ahhh yes Theres a Pub/Rest there now called 'Strawberry field', also Home to RBS banking and a Motel/Hotel and of course a Large Tesco as you saw on Google Earth, the sign is a clever one by Tesco as the Planes all fly over many times daily now with the airport expansion. DogsMessInLeigh
  • Score: 0

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