More cuts ahead for council services

Southend Standard: Southend Council leader Nigel Holdcroft and chief executive Rob Tinlin win an award for Council of the Year 2012 Southend Council leader Nigel Holdcroft and chief executive Rob Tinlin win an award for Council of the Year 2012

PUBLIC services across south Essex are expected to face further cuts next year as the Government slashes millions from council funding.

The Government has revealed the amount it plans to cut from grants to councils next year.

Councils will use the predictions, known as the provisional local government finance settlement, as they plan next year’s budgets.

Essex County Council faces a £27million cut, equivalent to a seven per cent drop on this year’s grant.

Southend Council will receive £7.6million less, a 9.8 per cent cut in funding. Basildon Council’s funding will be cut by £1.3million – a 13.3 per cent fall.

Rochford District Council will have to make up a shortfall of £510,000 after a 13.4 per cent cut.

Nigel Holdcroft, leader of Southend Council, said: “Our initial view is that it’s broadly in line with our expectations and will require us to deliver further significant revenue savings over the next financial year.”

Stuart Sullivan, Basildon councillor responsible for resources, said: “This cut in funding comes as no surprise.

Through careful planning and prudent financial management, we have prepared and are ready for this.”

Castle Point Council was unable to provide the Echo with details of its settlement despite receiving the information from the Government on Wednesday, December 18.

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10:56am Tue 24 Dec 13

Kim Gandy says...

But are they going to cut the chairman's chauffeur driven limo, the free lunches, the expense accounts and the junkets?

Sorry... I didn't hear that.....
But are they going to cut the chairman's chauffeur driven limo, the free lunches, the expense accounts and the junkets? Sorry... I didn't hear that..... Kim Gandy

10:59am Tue 24 Dec 13

jayman says...

I guess this means no more palm trees, no more pie-in-the-sky capital spending projects. Oh, and I guess it means savage cuts to services that have not been seen for generations. By the time the Tories have finished with the cuts, governmental spending will be back to 1930's levels (as a percentage of GDP).

If you want to know what a 10% (9.8% rounded off) cut to services will look like if wholly applied to specific budget . Take away 20% of school placements in Southend. Take away 50% of Southend roads. axe all peripheral council services. Cut housing benefit by 10%.

welcome to Tory town
I guess this means no more palm trees, no more pie-in-the-sky capital spending projects. Oh, and I guess it means savage cuts to services that have not been seen for generations. By the time the Tories have finished with the cuts, governmental spending will be back to 1930's levels (as a percentage of GDP). If you want to know what a 10% (9.8% rounded off) cut to services will look like if wholly applied to specific budget . Take away 20% of school placements in Southend. Take away 50% of Southend roads. axe all peripheral council services. Cut housing benefit by 10%. welcome to Tory town jayman

11:05am Tue 24 Dec 13

fletch12107 says...

Service cuts before salary cuts of the executives and surplus managers. Get your noses out of the troughs before we have no services for you to manage.
Service cuts before salary cuts of the executives and surplus managers. Get your noses out of the troughs before we have no services for you to manage. fletch12107

2:56pm Tue 24 Dec 13

Joe Clark says...

jayman wrote:
I guess this means no more palm trees, no more pie-in-the-sky capital spending projects. Oh, and I guess it means savage cuts to services that have not been seen for generations. By the time the Tories have finished with the cuts, governmental spending will be back to 1930's levels (as a percentage of GDP).

If you want to know what a 10% (9.8% rounded off) cut to services will look like if wholly applied to specific budget . Take away 20% of school placements in Southend. Take away 50% of Southend roads. axe all peripheral council services. Cut housing benefit by 10%.

welcome to Tory town
Don't forget it was a Labour government that was in power when the credit crisis hit, they too failed the country with their open doors policy spending high taxing low, no policy was in place to build up cash reserves even when the first signs of problems started appearing, they continued to spend spend spend cut tax cut tax cut tax welcome all who wanted to come in to the country with open arms and an open social security system.

Only when the brown smelly stuff hit the fan did they think perhaps we should have done something.

Look at the letter the outgoing government left "Sorry there is no money left"

Cuts had to be made to try and get the country back on more of an even footing do you seriously think we could have carried on with the same spend high tax low policy.

I have looked back at comment you have made just so you know I do not vote tory it's none of your beeswax how I vote.
[quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: I guess this means no more palm trees, no more pie-in-the-sky capital spending projects. Oh, and I guess it means savage cuts to services that have not been seen for generations. By the time the Tories have finished with the cuts, governmental spending will be back to 1930's levels (as a percentage of GDP). If you want to know what a 10% (9.8% rounded off) cut to services will look like if wholly applied to specific budget . Take away 20% of school placements in Southend. Take away 50% of Southend roads. axe all peripheral council services. Cut housing benefit by 10%. welcome to Tory town[/p][/quote]Don't forget it was a Labour government that was in power when the credit crisis hit, they too failed the country with their open doors policy spending high taxing low, no policy was in place to build up cash reserves even when the first signs of problems started appearing, they continued to spend spend spend cut tax cut tax cut tax welcome all who wanted to come in to the country with open arms and an open social security system. Only when the brown smelly stuff hit the fan did they think perhaps we should have done something. Look at the letter the outgoing government left "Sorry there is no money left" Cuts had to be made to try and get the country back on more of an even footing do you seriously think we could have carried on with the same spend high tax low policy. I have looked back at comment you have made just so you know I do not vote tory it's none of your beeswax how I vote. Joe Clark

3:47pm Tue 24 Dec 13

iknowbetter says...

I take it then, Southend mayors party palace will have its £240.000 refit put on hold? If not why not!!!
I take it then, Southend mayors party palace will have its £240.000 refit put on hold? If not why not!!! iknowbetter

4:44pm Tue 24 Dec 13

jayman says...

Joe Clark wrote:
jayman wrote:
I guess this means no more palm trees, no more pie-in-the-sky capital spending projects. Oh, and I guess it means savage cuts to services that have not been seen for generations. By the time the Tories have finished with the cuts, governmental spending will be back to 1930's levels (as a percentage of GDP).

If you want to know what a 10% (9.8% rounded off) cut to services will look like if wholly applied to specific budget . Take away 20% of school placements in Southend. Take away 50% of Southend roads. axe all peripheral council services. Cut housing benefit by 10%.

welcome to Tory town
Don't forget it was a Labour government that was in power when the credit crisis hit, they too failed the country with their open doors policy spending high taxing low, no policy was in place to build up cash reserves even when the first signs of problems started appearing, they continued to spend spend spend cut tax cut tax cut tax welcome all who wanted to come in to the country with open arms and an open social security system.

Only when the brown smelly stuff hit the fan did they think perhaps we should have done something.

Look at the letter the outgoing government left "Sorry there is no money left"

Cuts had to be made to try and get the country back on more of an even footing do you seriously think we could have carried on with the same spend high tax low policy.

I have looked back at comment you have made just so you know I do not vote tory it's none of your beeswax how I vote.
Then why is southend council (long term Tory council) over 200 million pounds in debt. Why has national debt increased exponentially since the Tories took office?
[quote][p][bold]Joe Clark[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: I guess this means no more palm trees, no more pie-in-the-sky capital spending projects. Oh, and I guess it means savage cuts to services that have not been seen for generations. By the time the Tories have finished with the cuts, governmental spending will be back to 1930's levels (as a percentage of GDP). If you want to know what a 10% (9.8% rounded off) cut to services will look like if wholly applied to specific budget . Take away 20% of school placements in Southend. Take away 50% of Southend roads. axe all peripheral council services. Cut housing benefit by 10%. welcome to Tory town[/p][/quote]Don't forget it was a Labour government that was in power when the credit crisis hit, they too failed the country with their open doors policy spending high taxing low, no policy was in place to build up cash reserves even when the first signs of problems started appearing, they continued to spend spend spend cut tax cut tax cut tax welcome all who wanted to come in to the country with open arms and an open social security system. Only when the brown smelly stuff hit the fan did they think perhaps we should have done something. Look at the letter the outgoing government left "Sorry there is no money left" Cuts had to be made to try and get the country back on more of an even footing do you seriously think we could have carried on with the same spend high tax low policy. I have looked back at comment you have made just so you know I do not vote tory it's none of your beeswax how I vote.[/p][/quote]Then why is southend council (long term Tory council) over 200 million pounds in debt. Why has national debt increased exponentially since the Tories took office? jayman

5:02pm Tue 24 Dec 13

John T Pharro says...

Here we go again the blame game. The whole lot are to blame and are as bad as each other. That with the undemocratic cabinet system only compounds the problem. Too many times politics put before people.
Here we go again the blame game. The whole lot are to blame and are as bad as each other. That with the undemocratic cabinet system only compounds the problem. Too many times politics put before people. John T Pharro

10:49pm Tue 24 Dec 13

Joe Clark says...

jayman wrote:
Joe Clark wrote:
jayman wrote:
I guess this means no more palm trees, no more pie-in-the-sky capital spending projects. Oh, and I guess it means savage cuts to services that have not been seen for generations. By the time the Tories have finished with the cuts, governmental spending will be back to 1930's levels (as a percentage of GDP).

If you want to know what a 10% (9.8% rounded off) cut to services will look like if wholly applied to specific budget . Take away 20% of school placements in Southend. Take away 50% of Southend roads. axe all peripheral council services. Cut housing benefit by 10%.

welcome to Tory town
Don't forget it was a Labour government that was in power when the credit crisis hit, they too failed the country with their open doors policy spending high taxing low, no policy was in place to build up cash reserves even when the first signs of problems started appearing, they continued to spend spend spend cut tax cut tax cut tax welcome all who wanted to come in to the country with open arms and an open social security system.

Only when the brown smelly stuff hit the fan did they think perhaps we should have done something.

Look at the letter the outgoing government left "Sorry there is no money left"

Cuts had to be made to try and get the country back on more of an even footing do you seriously think we could have carried on with the same spend high tax low policy.

I have looked back at comment you have made just so you know I do not vote tory it's none of your beeswax how I vote.
Then why is southend council (long term Tory council) over 200 million pounds in debt. Why has national debt increased exponentially since the Tories took office?
The debt will increase as the interest needs to be paid down as well as the general debt, until spending is controlled and saving found the debt will increase, at least there are real signs of recovery in the ecommony after so many years of it curtailing and declining.

Would you agree that taxing low and spending high much of the time spending money that is not coming in is a mistake that should not be repeated or should we go back to a situation where the country is spending beyond its means.

Whilst it was not entirely the fault of the labour government and the high risk strategy employed by the banks was a cause of the economy failing a less risky policy needs to be employed, with a major reduction in what the government spends on the welfare state having to be implemented as this were far too cushy for those who did not want to work.

I do not believe it should pay better to live off benefits rather that work, that is not right that is not fair, those that work would in the vast majority agree those that don't fall into the category of workshy.

true there might be some that want to work but because of genuine medical reasons can't, I excluded drug and drink they are self inflicted conditions that can be beaten if they could be bothered to do something about it.

The cuts were needed, no doubt about it but I would go further and not pay benefits in to bank/post office accounts instead a debit card style system that can not be used to buy booze and fags as they are not essential items, perhaps also pay rents direct to the land lord or rented properties (having my own home this is currently done)

I would be interested to know if you think benefits should pay more than work or should work always pay more than benefits.

Perhaps even have the state pay for the first two Children (unless its twins, triplets, quads...) after that you and only you are responsible for the cost of any further children you have.

Might sound a bit harsh but look at some of the size of the families you see and just how much they collect.
[quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joe Clark[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: I guess this means no more palm trees, no more pie-in-the-sky capital spending projects. Oh, and I guess it means savage cuts to services that have not been seen for generations. By the time the Tories have finished with the cuts, governmental spending will be back to 1930's levels (as a percentage of GDP). If you want to know what a 10% (9.8% rounded off) cut to services will look like if wholly applied to specific budget . Take away 20% of school placements in Southend. Take away 50% of Southend roads. axe all peripheral council services. Cut housing benefit by 10%. welcome to Tory town[/p][/quote]Don't forget it was a Labour government that was in power when the credit crisis hit, they too failed the country with their open doors policy spending high taxing low, no policy was in place to build up cash reserves even when the first signs of problems started appearing, they continued to spend spend spend cut tax cut tax cut tax welcome all who wanted to come in to the country with open arms and an open social security system. Only when the brown smelly stuff hit the fan did they think perhaps we should have done something. Look at the letter the outgoing government left "Sorry there is no money left" Cuts had to be made to try and get the country back on more of an even footing do you seriously think we could have carried on with the same spend high tax low policy. I have looked back at comment you have made just so you know I do not vote tory it's none of your beeswax how I vote.[/p][/quote]Then why is southend council (long term Tory council) over 200 million pounds in debt. Why has national debt increased exponentially since the Tories took office?[/p][/quote]The debt will increase as the interest needs to be paid down as well as the general debt, until spending is controlled and saving found the debt will increase, at least there are real signs of recovery in the ecommony after so many years of it curtailing and declining. Would you agree that taxing low and spending high much of the time spending money that is not coming in is a mistake that should not be repeated or should we go back to a situation where the country is spending beyond its means. Whilst it was not entirely the fault of the labour government and the high risk strategy employed by the banks was a cause of the economy failing a less risky policy needs to be employed, with a major reduction in what the government spends on the welfare state having to be implemented as this were far too cushy for those who did not want to work. I do not believe it should pay better to live off benefits rather that work, that is not right that is not fair, those that work would in the vast majority agree those that don't fall into the category of workshy. true there might be some that want to work but because of genuine medical reasons can't, I excluded drug and drink they are self inflicted conditions that can be beaten if they could be bothered to do something about it. The cuts were needed, no doubt about it but I would go further and not pay benefits in to bank/post office accounts instead a debit card style system that can not be used to buy booze and fags as they are not essential items, perhaps also pay rents direct to the land lord or rented properties (having my own home this is currently done) I would be interested to know if you think benefits should pay more than work or should work always pay more than benefits. Perhaps even have the state pay for the first two Children (unless its twins, triplets, quads...) after that you and only you are responsible for the cost of any further children you have. Might sound a bit harsh but look at some of the size of the families you see and just how much they collect. Joe Clark

12:43am Fri 27 Dec 13

Nebs says...

Don't worry Joe. Three years into this parliament and the left wing was asking why the government hadn't solved all the problems, removed the debt, cured unemployment, and made everything in the garden rosy. So if Labour win in 2015 then by 2018 we will all be living the high life, everyone will have a job, no more debts for anyone, it will be great.
Don't worry Joe. Three years into this parliament and the left wing was asking why the government hadn't solved all the problems, removed the debt, cured unemployment, and made everything in the garden rosy. So if Labour win in 2015 then by 2018 we will all be living the high life, everyone will have a job, no more debts for anyone, it will be great. Nebs

10:42am Fri 27 Dec 13

raggs says...

have the traitorous thieves on canary wharf paid any of our money back yet?
has the govt even asked its old school chums to pay it back ?
has any one of these parasites in the uk been charged for their massive fraud and swindling that brought the western financial system to its knees? plenty have in the usa.
no, let's blame the weakest in society and make them suffer and make them suffer good.
disgusting.
have the traitorous thieves on canary wharf paid any of our money back yet? has the govt even asked its old school chums to pay it back ? has any one of these parasites in the uk been charged for their massive fraud and swindling that brought the western financial system to its knees? plenty have in the usa. no, let's blame the weakest in society and make them suffer and make them suffer good. disgusting. raggs

10:43am Fri 27 Dec 13

jayman says...

Joe Clark wrote:
jayman wrote:
Joe Clark wrote:
jayman wrote:
I guess this means no more palm trees, no more pie-in-the-sky capital spending projects. Oh, and I guess it means savage cuts to services that have not been seen for generations. By the time the Tories have finished with the cuts, governmental spending will be back to 1930's levels (as a percentage of GDP).

If you want to know what a 10% (9.8% rounded off) cut to services will look like if wholly applied to specific budget . Take away 20% of school placements in Southend. Take away 50% of Southend roads. axe all peripheral council services. Cut housing benefit by 10%.

welcome to Tory town
Don't forget it was a Labour government that was in power when the credit crisis hit, they too failed the country with their open doors policy spending high taxing low, no policy was in place to build up cash reserves even when the first signs of problems started appearing, they continued to spend spend spend cut tax cut tax cut tax welcome all who wanted to come in to the country with open arms and an open social security system.

Only when the brown smelly stuff hit the fan did they think perhaps we should have done something.

Look at the letter the outgoing government left "Sorry there is no money left"

Cuts had to be made to try and get the country back on more of an even footing do you seriously think we could have carried on with the same spend high tax low policy.

I have looked back at comment you have made just so you know I do not vote tory it's none of your beeswax how I vote.
Then why is southend council (long term Tory council) over 200 million pounds in debt. Why has national debt increased exponentially since the Tories took office?
The debt will increase as the interest needs to be paid down as well as the general debt, until spending is controlled and saving found the debt will increase, at least there are real signs of recovery in the ecommony after so many years of it curtailing and declining.

Would you agree that taxing low and spending high much of the time spending money that is not coming in is a mistake that should not be repeated or should we go back to a situation where the country is spending beyond its means.

Whilst it was not entirely the fault of the labour government and the high risk strategy employed by the banks was a cause of the economy failing a less risky policy needs to be employed, with a major reduction in what the government spends on the welfare state having to be implemented as this were far too cushy for those who did not want to work.

I do not believe it should pay better to live off benefits rather that work, that is not right that is not fair, those that work would in the vast majority agree those that don't fall into the category of workshy.

true there might be some that want to work but because of genuine medical reasons can't, I excluded drug and drink they are self inflicted conditions that can be beaten if they could be bothered to do something about it.

The cuts were needed, no doubt about it but I would go further and not pay benefits in to bank/post office accounts instead a debit card style system that can not be used to buy booze and fags as they are not essential items, perhaps also pay rents direct to the land lord or rented properties (having my own home this is currently done)

I would be interested to know if you think benefits should pay more than work or should work always pay more than benefits.

Perhaps even have the state pay for the first two Children (unless its twins, triplets, quads...) after that you and only you are responsible for the cost of any further children you have.

Might sound a bit harsh but look at some of the size of the families you see and just how much they collect.
its like a daily mail editor has gone through your three line response and padded it out with the obligatory quota of

1) benefits; without making the destruction between in work and out of work benefits..
2) maintaining or creating the idea that masses of people (low paid/out of work) are so 'subhuman' that they would have lots of children to enjoy some form of state financial benefit.
3) that the government had anything to do with the financial crash. That any future government would do any thing different. Capitalism is not an ideology. Its a platform for greed, corruption and consumption.
4) That the years we face ahead of ourselves with mass hunger, low paid/ ultra low paid jobs, soup kitchens, food banks, poverty, deprivation and social disorder with little prospect for personal betterment or self advancement are somehow quelled by using bipartisan right wing political ignorance or arrogance to the simple fact that poor people will suffer, prices will rise. the NHS and state services will fall.
--------------------
------

All this, not because the prime minister cries himself to sleep every night, burdened by the edifying knowledge of what he has done or what he is going to do.

The Tory party's central plan is to create a right-wing 'phoenix from the flames' society. First thing's first. Start a few fires under the cover of darkness and watch the old systems burn which where of benefit to everyone..
[quote][p][bold]Joe Clark[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joe Clark[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: I guess this means no more palm trees, no more pie-in-the-sky capital spending projects. Oh, and I guess it means savage cuts to services that have not been seen for generations. By the time the Tories have finished with the cuts, governmental spending will be back to 1930's levels (as a percentage of GDP). If you want to know what a 10% (9.8% rounded off) cut to services will look like if wholly applied to specific budget . Take away 20% of school placements in Southend. Take away 50% of Southend roads. axe all peripheral council services. Cut housing benefit by 10%. welcome to Tory town[/p][/quote]Don't forget it was a Labour government that was in power when the credit crisis hit, they too failed the country with their open doors policy spending high taxing low, no policy was in place to build up cash reserves even when the first signs of problems started appearing, they continued to spend spend spend cut tax cut tax cut tax welcome all who wanted to come in to the country with open arms and an open social security system. Only when the brown smelly stuff hit the fan did they think perhaps we should have done something. Look at the letter the outgoing government left "Sorry there is no money left" Cuts had to be made to try and get the country back on more of an even footing do you seriously think we could have carried on with the same spend high tax low policy. I have looked back at comment you have made just so you know I do not vote tory it's none of your beeswax how I vote.[/p][/quote]Then why is southend council (long term Tory council) over 200 million pounds in debt. Why has national debt increased exponentially since the Tories took office?[/p][/quote]The debt will increase as the interest needs to be paid down as well as the general debt, until spending is controlled and saving found the debt will increase, at least there are real signs of recovery in the ecommony after so many years of it curtailing and declining. Would you agree that taxing low and spending high much of the time spending money that is not coming in is a mistake that should not be repeated or should we go back to a situation where the country is spending beyond its means. Whilst it was not entirely the fault of the labour government and the high risk strategy employed by the banks was a cause of the economy failing a less risky policy needs to be employed, with a major reduction in what the government spends on the welfare state having to be implemented as this were far too cushy for those who did not want to work. I do not believe it should pay better to live off benefits rather that work, that is not right that is not fair, those that work would in the vast majority agree those that don't fall into the category of workshy. true there might be some that want to work but because of genuine medical reasons can't, I excluded drug and drink they are self inflicted conditions that can be beaten if they could be bothered to do something about it. The cuts were needed, no doubt about it but I would go further and not pay benefits in to bank/post office accounts instead a debit card style system that can not be used to buy booze and fags as they are not essential items, perhaps also pay rents direct to the land lord or rented properties (having my own home this is currently done) I would be interested to know if you think benefits should pay more than work or should work always pay more than benefits. Perhaps even have the state pay for the first two Children (unless its twins, triplets, quads...) after that you and only you are responsible for the cost of any further children you have. Might sound a bit harsh but look at some of the size of the families you see and just how much they collect.[/p][/quote]its like a daily mail editor has gone through your three line response and padded it out with the obligatory quota of 1) benefits; without making the destruction between in work and out of work benefits.. 2) maintaining or creating the idea that masses of people (low paid/out of work) are so 'subhuman' that they would have lots of children to enjoy some form of state financial benefit. 3) that the government had anything to do with the financial crash. That any future government would do any thing different. Capitalism is not an ideology. Its a platform for greed, corruption and consumption. 4) That the years we face ahead of ourselves with mass hunger, low paid/ ultra low paid jobs, soup kitchens, food banks, poverty, deprivation and social disorder with little prospect for personal betterment or self advancement are somehow quelled by using bipartisan right wing political ignorance or arrogance to the simple fact that poor people will suffer, prices will rise. the NHS and state services will fall. -------------------- ------ All this, not because the prime minister cries himself to sleep every night, burdened by the edifying knowledge of what he has done or what he is going to do. The Tory party's central plan is to create a right-wing 'phoenix from the flames' society. First thing's first. Start a few fires under the cover of darkness and watch the old systems burn which where of benefit to everyone.. jayman

6:00pm Fri 27 Dec 13

Nowthatsworthknowing says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
But are they going to cut the chairman's chauffeur driven limo, the free lunches, the expense accounts and the junkets?

Sorry... I didn't hear that.....
Do as we say...Not as we do.
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: But are they going to cut the chairman's chauffeur driven limo, the free lunches, the expense accounts and the junkets? Sorry... I didn't hear that.....[/p][/quote]Do as we say...Not as we do. Nowthatsworthknowing

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