easyJet increases flights to Tenerife this winter

Southend Standard: easyJet announces winter flights to holiday hotspots easyJet announces winter flights to holiday hotspots

BUDGET airline easyJet its winter schedule from Southend Airport, including an increase in flights to Tenerife.

The airline will have 28,000 seats on sale for travel between October 26 2014 and February 28 2015 and services to Tenerife will be extended.

There will be just under 2000 flights in and out of Southend to 12 destinations across the UK and Europe.

The most popular easyJet destinations for next winter from London Southend are expected to be Tenerife, Amsterdam, Alicante, Barcelona, Venice and Geneva with holidaymakers well catered for with just under two thousand seats to choose from on flights to winter sun, city breaks or beach destinations.

Following the success of easyJet’s flights to Tenerife, its newest destination from Southend which launched in December last year, the services will be extended this Winter.

The first flight of the season takes off on September 16 allowing an additional 23,000 passengers to escape the shorter days and chillier months and jet off to the guaranteed sunshine of the island each year.

Sophie Dekkers, easyJet’s UK Director, said: “easyJet has launched its winter schedule from London Southend offering flights on 12 different routes between October 2014 and February 2015.

“When developing our flying schedule we consider many factors including customer feedback and holiday trends to ensure we’re offering the right combination of flights at a great price.”

Travellers looking to book their winter flights, accommodation and transfers in one go can find a wide range of flexible and affordable breaks from all easyJet airports on the easyJet holidays website: www.easyJet.com/holidays or by calling 0843 104 1000.

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7:57pm Wed 9 Apr 14

Nebs says...

No mention in the article of foreigners coming to visit the UK, to spend some of their money here. How about the Echo running a story on that?
No mention in the article of foreigners coming to visit the UK, to spend some of their money here. How about the Echo running a story on that? Nebs
  • Score: 0

9:54pm Wed 9 Apr 14

jayman says...

#advert
#advert jayman
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10:44pm Wed 9 Apr 14

disenfranchisedpast says...

Nebs wrote:
No mention in the article of foreigners coming to visit the UK, to spend some of their money here. How about the Echo running a story on that?
I think they did:
http://www.echo-news
.co.uk/news/11124030
.Rochford_welcomes_n
ew_routes_from_South
end_Airport/

The new flybe routes seem much more aimed at europeans flying into the uk than british tourists routing out, given that they are routing into airports without existing London/UK connections.
[quote][p][bold]Nebs[/bold] wrote: No mention in the article of foreigners coming to visit the UK, to spend some of their money here. How about the Echo running a story on that?[/p][/quote]I think they did: http://www.echo-news .co.uk/news/11124030 .Rochford_welcomes_n ew_routes_from_South end_Airport/ The new flybe routes seem much more aimed at europeans flying into the uk than british tourists routing out, given that they are routing into airports without existing London/UK connections. disenfranchisedpast
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10:48pm Wed 9 Apr 14

Joe Clark says...

jayman wrote:
#advert
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Catch my drift.
[quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: #advert[/p][/quote]Repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat Catch my drift. Joe Clark
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11:14pm Wed 9 Apr 14

jayman says...

Joe Clark wrote:
jayman wrote:
#advert
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Catch my drift.
calm down dear. it's only a commercial.
[quote][p][bold]Joe Clark[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: #advert[/p][/quote]Repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat Catch my drift.[/p][/quote]calm down dear. it's only a commercial. jayman
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12:39am Thu 10 Apr 14

Nebs says...

disenfranchisedpast wrote:
Nebs wrote:
No mention in the article of foreigners coming to visit the UK, to spend some of their money here. How about the Echo running a story on that?
I think they did:
http://www.echo-news

.co.uk/news/11124030

.Rochford_welcomes_n

ew_routes_from_South

end_Airport/

The new flybe routes seem much more aimed at europeans flying into the uk than british tourists routing out, given that they are routing into airports without existing London/UK connections.
I remember that article, 60 new jobs, great for locals who get them. No mention of relative numbers of foreigners v brits.

The ONS has this to say.......
Latest Trends
Compared to a year ago, visits to the UK by overseas residents increased by 12.1% to 9.9 million in quarter 3 2013. The length of visit by overseas residents also increased, with number of nights spent in the UK rising by 9.2%. In addition, the estimated earnings from these visits increased by 11.4% to £7.2 billion.
Visits abroad by UK residents in this quarter increased by 6.9% to 20.6 million. The number of nights spent abroad, by UK residents, also increased by 9.2% compared with quarter 3 in 2012, and expenditure during these visits increased by 8.3% to £12.7 billion.

Income 7.2billion, expenditure 12.7billion. Maybe there should be government incentives (or disincentives the other way) to encourage people to visit UK, as at the moment we seem to be flying our money out of the country.
[quote][p][bold]disenfranchisedpast[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nebs[/bold] wrote: No mention in the article of foreigners coming to visit the UK, to spend some of their money here. How about the Echo running a story on that?[/p][/quote]I think they did: http://www.echo-news .co.uk/news/11124030 .Rochford_welcomes_n ew_routes_from_South end_Airport/ The new flybe routes seem much more aimed at europeans flying into the uk than british tourists routing out, given that they are routing into airports without existing London/UK connections.[/p][/quote]I remember that article, 60 new jobs, great for locals who get them. No mention of relative numbers of foreigners v brits. The ONS has this to say....... Latest Trends Compared to a year ago, visits to the UK by overseas residents increased by 12.1% to 9.9 million in quarter 3 2013. The length of visit by overseas residents also increased, with number of nights spent in the UK rising by 9.2%. In addition, the estimated earnings from these visits increased by 11.4% to £7.2 billion. Visits abroad by UK residents in this quarter increased by 6.9% to 20.6 million. The number of nights spent abroad, by UK residents, also increased by 9.2% compared with quarter 3 in 2012, and expenditure during these visits increased by 8.3% to £12.7 billion. Income 7.2billion, expenditure 12.7billion. Maybe there should be government incentives (or disincentives the other way) to encourage people to visit UK, as at the moment we seem to be flying our money out of the country. Nebs
  • Score: -7

7:25am Thu 10 Apr 14

Nowthatsworthknowing says...

jayman wrote:
Joe Clark wrote:
jayman wrote:
#advert
Repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat

Catch my drift.
calm down dear. it's only a commercial.
Your showing your true mental health issues here Jayman..
[quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joe Clark[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: #advert[/p][/quote]Repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat Catch my drift.[/p][/quote]calm down dear. it's only a commercial.[/p][/quote]Your showing your true mental health issues here Jayman.. Nowthatsworthknowing
  • Score: -7

9:12am Thu 10 Apr 14

openspace says...

Joe Clark wrote:
jayman wrote:
#advert
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Catch my drift.
Nice to know you read every edition of the Echo, well done !!
[quote][p][bold]Joe Clark[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: #advert[/p][/quote]Repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat of a repeat Catch my drift.[/p][/quote]Nice to know you read every edition of the Echo, well done !! openspace
  • Score: 0

9:27am Thu 10 Apr 14

openspace says...

Nebs wrote:
disenfranchisedpast wrote:
Nebs wrote:
No mention in the article of foreigners coming to visit the UK, to spend some of their money here. How about the Echo running a story on that?
I think they did:
http://www.echo-news


.co.uk/news/11124030


.Rochford_welcomes_n


ew_routes_from_South


end_Airport/

The new flybe routes seem much more aimed at europeans flying into the uk than british tourists routing out, given that they are routing into airports without existing London/UK connections.
I remember that article, 60 new jobs, great for locals who get them. No mention of relative numbers of foreigners v brits.

The ONS has this to say.......
Latest Trends
Compared to a year ago, visits to the UK by overseas residents increased by 12.1% to 9.9 million in quarter 3 2013. The length of visit by overseas residents also increased, with number of nights spent in the UK rising by 9.2%. In addition, the estimated earnings from these visits increased by 11.4% to £7.2 billion.
Visits abroad by UK residents in this quarter increased by 6.9% to 20.6 million. The number of nights spent abroad, by UK residents, also increased by 9.2% compared with quarter 3 in 2012, and expenditure during these visits increased by 8.3% to £12.7 billion.

Income 7.2billion, expenditure 12.7billion. Maybe there should be government incentives (or disincentives the other way) to encourage people to visit UK, as at the moment we seem to be flying our money out of the country.
People will always fly or drive abroad to explore other countries, and why shouldn't they, borders are artificial, we all live in " the world" and have a perfect right to travel. Given that this is true, why not encourage people to choose to fly from Southend and provide jobs, etc, locally.
I have no doubt that, like me, many people abroad check where their local airport fly to and investigate destinations on-line. Given this fact, I suspect that we do get visitors to Southend flying in as well as locals flying in and out.
"Disincentives to travel", any government proposing this will be somewhat unpopular. There may, however, come a time when travel becomes more difficult due to fuel availability and we may have to accept this eventually.
[quote][p][bold]Nebs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]disenfranchisedpast[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nebs[/bold] wrote: No mention in the article of foreigners coming to visit the UK, to spend some of their money here. How about the Echo running a story on that?[/p][/quote]I think they did: http://www.echo-news .co.uk/news/11124030 .Rochford_welcomes_n ew_routes_from_South end_Airport/ The new flybe routes seem much more aimed at europeans flying into the uk than british tourists routing out, given that they are routing into airports without existing London/UK connections.[/p][/quote]I remember that article, 60 new jobs, great for locals who get them. No mention of relative numbers of foreigners v brits. The ONS has this to say....... Latest Trends Compared to a year ago, visits to the UK by overseas residents increased by 12.1% to 9.9 million in quarter 3 2013. The length of visit by overseas residents also increased, with number of nights spent in the UK rising by 9.2%. In addition, the estimated earnings from these visits increased by 11.4% to £7.2 billion. Visits abroad by UK residents in this quarter increased by 6.9% to 20.6 million. The number of nights spent abroad, by UK residents, also increased by 9.2% compared with quarter 3 in 2012, and expenditure during these visits increased by 8.3% to £12.7 billion. Income 7.2billion, expenditure 12.7billion. Maybe there should be government incentives (or disincentives the other way) to encourage people to visit UK, as at the moment we seem to be flying our money out of the country.[/p][/quote]People will always fly or drive abroad to explore other countries, and why shouldn't they, borders are artificial, we all live in " the world" and have a perfect right to travel. Given that this is true, why not encourage people to choose to fly from Southend and provide jobs, etc, locally. I have no doubt that, like me, many people abroad check where their local airport fly to and investigate destinations on-line. Given this fact, I suspect that we do get visitors to Southend flying in as well as locals flying in and out. "Disincentives to travel", any government proposing this will be somewhat unpopular. There may, however, come a time when travel becomes more difficult due to fuel availability and we may have to accept this eventually. openspace
  • Score: 0

10:23am Thu 10 Apr 14

DannyK86 says...

Nebs wrote:
disenfranchisedpast wrote:
Nebs wrote:
No mention in the article of foreigners coming to visit the UK, to spend some of their money here. How about the Echo running a story on that?
I think they did:
http://www.echo-news


.co.uk/news/11124030


.Rochford_welcomes_n


ew_routes_from_South


end_Airport/

The new flybe routes seem much more aimed at europeans flying into the uk than british tourists routing out, given that they are routing into airports without existing London/UK connections.
I remember that article, 60 new jobs, great for locals who get them. No mention of relative numbers of foreigners v brits.

The ONS has this to say.......
Latest Trends
Compared to a year ago, visits to the UK by overseas residents increased by 12.1% to 9.9 million in quarter 3 2013. The length of visit by overseas residents also increased, with number of nights spent in the UK rising by 9.2%. In addition, the estimated earnings from these visits increased by 11.4% to £7.2 billion.
Visits abroad by UK residents in this quarter increased by 6.9% to 20.6 million. The number of nights spent abroad, by UK residents, also increased by 9.2% compared with quarter 3 in 2012, and expenditure during these visits increased by 8.3% to £12.7 billion.

Income 7.2billion, expenditure 12.7billion. Maybe there should be government incentives (or disincentives the other way) to encourage people to visit UK, as at the moment we seem to be flying our money out of the country.
So what - are you saying that if people don't have the option to fly abroad, they'll go and holiday in Skegness or somewhere instead? If people want to travel, they will, and they'll be all the better for it.
[quote][p][bold]Nebs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]disenfranchisedpast[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nebs[/bold] wrote: No mention in the article of foreigners coming to visit the UK, to spend some of their money here. How about the Echo running a story on that?[/p][/quote]I think they did: http://www.echo-news .co.uk/news/11124030 .Rochford_welcomes_n ew_routes_from_South end_Airport/ The new flybe routes seem much more aimed at europeans flying into the uk than british tourists routing out, given that they are routing into airports without existing London/UK connections.[/p][/quote]I remember that article, 60 new jobs, great for locals who get them. No mention of relative numbers of foreigners v brits. The ONS has this to say....... Latest Trends Compared to a year ago, visits to the UK by overseas residents increased by 12.1% to 9.9 million in quarter 3 2013. The length of visit by overseas residents also increased, with number of nights spent in the UK rising by 9.2%. In addition, the estimated earnings from these visits increased by 11.4% to £7.2 billion. Visits abroad by UK residents in this quarter increased by 6.9% to 20.6 million. The number of nights spent abroad, by UK residents, also increased by 9.2% compared with quarter 3 in 2012, and expenditure during these visits increased by 8.3% to £12.7 billion. Income 7.2billion, expenditure 12.7billion. Maybe there should be government incentives (or disincentives the other way) to encourage people to visit UK, as at the moment we seem to be flying our money out of the country.[/p][/quote]So what - are you saying that if people don't have the option to fly abroad, they'll go and holiday in Skegness or somewhere instead? If people want to travel, they will, and they'll be all the better for it. DannyK86
  • Score: -6

12:13pm Thu 10 Apr 14

openspace says...

jayman wrote:
#advert
new café opens somewhere _ advert ????
new bus service - advert ??????
new train timetables - advert ?????
new high street shop opens - advert ?????
stars appearing at local theatres - adverts ????
adventure island expansion article - advert ?????
seafront arcade re-opens after refurbishment - advert ???????
OR
just perhaps, public service information. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But we would, of course expect you to criticise anything to do with the airport or articles about the airport, ( or in fact, just about anything about successful companies ). What a very, very sad individual, you need to get out more.
[quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: #advert[/p][/quote]new café opens somewhere _ advert ???? new bus service - advert ?????? new train timetables - advert ????? new high street shop opens - advert ????? stars appearing at local theatres - adverts ???? adventure island expansion article - advert ????? seafront arcade re-opens after refurbishment - advert ??????? OR just perhaps, public service information. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But we would, of course expect you to criticise anything to do with the airport or articles about the airport, ( or in fact, just about anything about successful companies ). What a very, very sad individual, you need to get out more. openspace
  • Score: -5

1:57pm Thu 10 Apr 14

Joe Clark says...

openspace wrote:
jayman wrote:
#advert
new café opens somewhere _ advert ????
new bus service - advert ??????
new train timetables - advert ?????
new high street shop opens - advert ?????
stars appearing at local theatres - adverts ????
adventure island expansion article - advert ?????
seafront arcade re-opens after refurbishment - advert ???????
OR
just perhaps, public service information. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But we would, of course expect you to criticise anything to do with the airport or articles about the airport, ( or in fact, just about anything about successful companies ). What a very, very sad individual, you need to get out more.
Very valid point listing all these adverts jayman missed...

I hope he appreciates the service you just supplied to him.
[quote][p][bold]openspace[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: #advert[/p][/quote]new café opens somewhere _ advert ???? new bus service - advert ?????? new train timetables - advert ????? new high street shop opens - advert ????? stars appearing at local theatres - adverts ???? adventure island expansion article - advert ????? seafront arcade re-opens after refurbishment - advert ??????? OR just perhaps, public service information. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But we would, of course expect you to criticise anything to do with the airport or articles about the airport, ( or in fact, just about anything about successful companies ). What a very, very sad individual, you need to get out more.[/p][/quote]Very valid point listing all these adverts jayman missed... I hope he appreciates the service you just supplied to him. Joe Clark
  • Score: -3

4:25pm Thu 10 Apr 14

jayman says...

openspace wrote:
jayman wrote:
#advert
new café opens somewhere _ advert ????
new bus service - advert ??????
new train timetables - advert ?????
new high street shop opens - advert ?????
stars appearing at local theatres - adverts ????
adventure island expansion article - advert ?????
seafront arcade re-opens after refurbishment - advert ???????
OR
just perhaps, public service information. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But we would, of course expect you to criticise anything to do with the airport or articles about the airport, ( or in fact, just about anything about successful companies ). What a very, very sad individual, you need to get out more.
If cafe opens somewhere-- Boring news
If bus service provider have paid a newspaper for article space-- advert
New train timetables-- public interest
If new shop opens in high street-- borderline public interest
Stars appearing in local theatre-- public interest if the production and casting are any good.
Adventure island Expansion-- definitely advert.
seafront arcade re-opens after refurbishment-- Boring news.

Blanket, consistent and unrivalled reporting of Southend airport with corporate logo pictures, sales telephone numbers and detailed information of the product/service provided-- Advert.
[quote][p][bold]openspace[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: #advert[/p][/quote]new café opens somewhere _ advert ???? new bus service - advert ?????? new train timetables - advert ????? new high street shop opens - advert ????? stars appearing at local theatres - adverts ???? adventure island expansion article - advert ????? seafront arcade re-opens after refurbishment - advert ??????? OR just perhaps, public service information. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But we would, of course expect you to criticise anything to do with the airport or articles about the airport, ( or in fact, just about anything about successful companies ). What a very, very sad individual, you need to get out more.[/p][/quote]If cafe opens somewhere-- Boring news If bus service provider have paid a newspaper for article space-- advert New train timetables-- public interest If new shop opens in high street-- borderline public interest Stars appearing in local theatre-- public interest if the production and casting are any good. Adventure island Expansion-- definitely advert. seafront arcade re-opens after refurbishment-- Boring news. Blanket, consistent and unrivalled reporting of Southend airport with corporate logo pictures, sales telephone numbers and detailed information of the product/service provided-- Advert. jayman
  • Score: 7

6:50pm Thu 10 Apr 14

Joe Clark says...

jayman wrote:
openspace wrote:
jayman wrote:
#advert
new café opens somewhere _ advert ????
new bus service - advert ??????
new train timetables - advert ?????
new high street shop opens - advert ?????
stars appearing at local theatres - adverts ????
adventure island expansion article - advert ?????
seafront arcade re-opens after refurbishment - advert ???????
OR
just perhaps, public service information. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But we would, of course expect you to criticise anything to do with the airport or articles about the airport, ( or in fact, just about anything about successful companies ). What a very, very sad individual, you need to get out more.
If cafe opens somewhere-- Boring news
If bus service provider have paid a newspaper for article space-- advert
New train timetables-- public interest
If new shop opens in high street-- borderline public interest
Stars appearing in local theatre-- public interest if the production and casting are any good.
Adventure island Expansion-- definitely advert.
seafront arcade re-opens after refurbishment-- Boring news.

Blanket, consistent and unrivalled reporting of Southend airport with corporate logo pictures, sales telephone numbers and detailed information of the product/service provided-- Advert.
You left one off the list:

Jayman comment: Boring and repetitive drivel.

You say and a quote YOU:

New train timetables-- public interest

Surely new flight timetable are in the public interest as it is a service being provided to the public or in your word of dross and negativity do you pick and choose what constitutes news/public services, in which case I so very very glad I actually live in a world that is real and not your fake make believe fantasy.
[quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]openspace[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: #advert[/p][/quote]new café opens somewhere _ advert ???? new bus service - advert ?????? new train timetables - advert ????? new high street shop opens - advert ????? stars appearing at local theatres - adverts ???? adventure island expansion article - advert ????? seafront arcade re-opens after refurbishment - advert ??????? OR just perhaps, public service information. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But we would, of course expect you to criticise anything to do with the airport or articles about the airport, ( or in fact, just about anything about successful companies ). What a very, very sad individual, you need to get out more.[/p][/quote]If cafe opens somewhere-- Boring news If bus service provider have paid a newspaper for article space-- advert New train timetables-- public interest If new shop opens in high street-- borderline public interest Stars appearing in local theatre-- public interest if the production and casting are any good. Adventure island Expansion-- definitely advert. seafront arcade re-opens after refurbishment-- Boring news. Blanket, consistent and unrivalled reporting of Southend airport with corporate logo pictures, sales telephone numbers and detailed information of the product/service provided-- Advert.[/p][/quote]You left one off the list: Jayman comment: Boring and repetitive drivel. You say and a quote YOU: New train timetables-- public interest Surely new flight timetable are in the public interest as it is a service being provided to the public or in your word of dross and negativity do you pick and choose what constitutes news/public services, in which case I so very very glad I actually live in a world that is real and not your fake make believe fantasy. Joe Clark
  • Score: -1

7:50pm Thu 10 Apr 14

maxell says...

openspace wrote:
jayman wrote:
#advert
new café opens somewhere _ advert ????
new bus service - advert ??????
new train timetables - advert ?????
new high street shop opens - advert ?????
stars appearing at local theatres - adverts ????
adventure island expansion article - advert ?????
seafront arcade re-opens after refurbishment - advert ???????
OR
just perhaps, public service information. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But we would, of course expect you to criticise anything to do with the airport or articles about the airport, ( or in fact, just about anything about successful companies ). What a very, very sad individual, you need to get out more.
why is it that if anybody says anything adverse about the airport they are subjected to abuse, It would appear that jayman has a more realistic approch when looking into the so called brilliance of the airport. The accounts say it all , any finacial projection sems to be driven by the phase of the moon. The dbay tarnsaction was completed today, it now lookes like share holders are likley to loose money, going by other airports value it looks like southend is grossly over estimated and in reality I beleive it to be worth in the region of 60 million and thats on the generous side, the figures show the airport is loosing 13 k a day. the latest onslaught of promo is an attempt to bolster and hide reality. I would love to see stobart do well at an airport, its never good to see any bussiness fail , but they were advised of this being a cash cow, something you should expect at an airport nesled in a housing estate , perhaps they wished they had listend to the experts .I think the aiport should be renamed to pandora, stobart should never have been opened the box. my opinion as always
[quote][p][bold]openspace[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: #advert[/p][/quote]new café opens somewhere _ advert ???? new bus service - advert ?????? new train timetables - advert ????? new high street shop opens - advert ????? stars appearing at local theatres - adverts ???? adventure island expansion article - advert ????? seafront arcade re-opens after refurbishment - advert ??????? OR just perhaps, public service information. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But we would, of course expect you to criticise anything to do with the airport or articles about the airport, ( or in fact, just about anything about successful companies ). What a very, very sad individual, you need to get out more.[/p][/quote]why is it that if anybody says anything adverse about the airport they are subjected to abuse, It would appear that jayman has a more realistic approch when looking into the so called brilliance of the airport. The accounts say it all , any finacial projection sems to be driven by the phase of the moon. The dbay tarnsaction was completed today, it now lookes like share holders are likley to loose money, going by other airports value it looks like southend is grossly over estimated and in reality I beleive it to be worth in the region of 60 million and thats on the generous side, the figures show the airport is loosing 13 k a day. the latest onslaught of promo is an attempt to bolster and hide reality. I would love to see stobart do well at an airport, its never good to see any bussiness fail , but they were advised of this being a cash cow, something you should expect at an airport nesled in a housing estate , perhaps they wished they had listend to the experts .I think the aiport should be renamed to pandora, stobart should never have been opened the box. my opinion as always maxell
  • Score: 5

9:19pm Thu 10 Apr 14

jolllyboy says...

Boring destinations. How about Scandinavia for a change. We dont all want to go to fish and chip spain. We dont all play golf abroad or have time shares or 2nd homes in France or Spain.
Boring destinations. How about Scandinavia for a change. We dont all want to go to fish and chip spain. We dont all play golf abroad or have time shares or 2nd homes in France or Spain. jolllyboy
  • Score: 0

11:53pm Thu 10 Apr 14

disenfranchisedpast says...

maxell wrote:
openspace wrote:
jayman wrote:
#advert
new café opens somewhere _ advert ????
new bus service - advert ??????
new train timetables - advert ?????
new high street shop opens - advert ?????
stars appearing at local theatres - adverts ????
adventure island expansion article - advert ?????
seafront arcade re-opens after refurbishment - advert ???????
OR
just perhaps, public service information. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But we would, of course expect you to criticise anything to do with the airport or articles about the airport, ( or in fact, just about anything about successful companies ). What a very, very sad individual, you need to get out more.
why is it that if anybody says anything adverse about the airport they are subjected to abuse, It would appear that jayman has a more realistic approch when looking into the so called brilliance of the airport. The accounts say it all , any finacial projection sems to be driven by the phase of the moon. The dbay tarnsaction was completed today, it now lookes like share holders are likley to loose money, going by other airports value it looks like southend is grossly over estimated and in reality I beleive it to be worth in the region of 60 million and thats on the generous side, the figures show the airport is loosing 13 k a day. the latest onslaught of promo is an attempt to bolster and hide reality. I would love to see stobart do well at an airport, its never good to see any bussiness fail , but they were advised of this being a cash cow, something you should expect at an airport nesled in a housing estate , perhaps they wished they had listend to the experts .I think the aiport should be renamed to pandora, stobart should never have been opened the box. my opinion as always
Firstly, no one is going to take your estimation of southends value seriously if you misspell every second word and the only "facts" you quote are from the "Stobart whistleblower page" which is up there with the chemtrails fanatics.

Secondly, the phrase cash cow, IT DOES NOT MEAN WHAT YOU THINK IT MEANS, seriously:

"Cash cow is business jargon for a business venture that generates a steady return of profits that far exceed the outlay of cash required to acquire or start it. Many businesses attempt to create or acquire such ventures, since they can be used to boost a company's overall income and to support less profitable endeavors"

This describes no airport ever.

An airport is a long term investment, it is inherent in the amount of money required to develop the infrastructure.

So now the airports losing £13K a day? Your previous calculations claimed the airport was losing £130000 a day, what's changed between now and yesterday?

If you are going to stick a "dollar value" on something, for gods sake be consistent.

People aren't "subjected to abuse" for saying things adverse to the airport, the airport has supporters and detractors, The reason Jayman was being called out is because he only seems to trot his "advert" objection out over airport related stories, not tescos stories or lakeside stories or stories related to any other business.

It is somewhat trite to claim the Airport stories are adverts. The airport is such a large employer and its services are so useful to the wider community it is a bit farcical to claim that news related to it is not in the public interest, at least in the local area.
[quote][p][bold]maxell[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]openspace[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: #advert[/p][/quote]new café opens somewhere _ advert ???? new bus service - advert ?????? new train timetables - advert ????? new high street shop opens - advert ????? stars appearing at local theatres - adverts ???? adventure island expansion article - advert ????? seafront arcade re-opens after refurbishment - advert ??????? OR just perhaps, public service information. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But we would, of course expect you to criticise anything to do with the airport or articles about the airport, ( or in fact, just about anything about successful companies ). What a very, very sad individual, you need to get out more.[/p][/quote]why is it that if anybody says anything adverse about the airport they are subjected to abuse, It would appear that jayman has a more realistic approch when looking into the so called brilliance of the airport. The accounts say it all , any finacial projection sems to be driven by the phase of the moon. The dbay tarnsaction was completed today, it now lookes like share holders are likley to loose money, going by other airports value it looks like southend is grossly over estimated and in reality I beleive it to be worth in the region of 60 million and thats on the generous side, the figures show the airport is loosing 13 k a day. the latest onslaught of promo is an attempt to bolster and hide reality. I would love to see stobart do well at an airport, its never good to see any bussiness fail , but they were advised of this being a cash cow, something you should expect at an airport nesled in a housing estate , perhaps they wished they had listend to the experts .I think the aiport should be renamed to pandora, stobart should never have been opened the box. my opinion as always[/p][/quote]Firstly, no one is going to take your estimation of southends value seriously if you misspell every second word and the only "facts" you quote are from the "Stobart whistleblower page" which is up there with the chemtrails fanatics. Secondly, the phrase cash cow, IT DOES NOT MEAN WHAT YOU THINK IT MEANS, seriously: "Cash cow is business jargon for a business venture that generates a steady return of profits that far exceed the outlay of cash required to acquire or start it. Many businesses attempt to create or acquire such ventures, since they can be used to boost a company's overall income and to support less profitable endeavors" This describes no airport ever. An airport is a long term investment, it is inherent in the amount of money required to develop the infrastructure. So now the airports losing £13K a day? Your previous calculations claimed the airport was losing £130000 a day, what's changed between now and yesterday? If you are going to stick a "dollar value" on something, for gods sake be consistent. People aren't "subjected to abuse" for saying things adverse to the airport, the airport has supporters and detractors, The reason Jayman was being called out is because he only seems to trot his "advert" objection out over airport related stories, not tescos stories or lakeside stories or stories related to any other business. It is somewhat trite to claim the Airport stories are adverts. The airport is such a large employer and its services are so useful to the wider community it is a bit farcical to claim that news related to it is not in the public interest, at least in the local area. disenfranchisedpast
  • Score: -5

11:56pm Thu 10 Apr 14

disenfranchisedpast says...

jolllyboy wrote:
Boring destinations. How about Scandinavia for a change. We dont all want to go to fish and chip spain. We dont all play golf abroad or have time shares or 2nd homes in France or Spain.
I thought most of the new flybe destinations were a big change from the usual "bucket and spade" brigade we've come to see from southend.
[quote][p][bold]jolllyboy[/bold] wrote: Boring destinations. How about Scandinavia for a change. We dont all want to go to fish and chip spain. We dont all play golf abroad or have time shares or 2nd homes in France or Spain.[/p][/quote]I thought most of the new flybe destinations were a big change from the usual "bucket and spade" brigade we've come to see from southend. disenfranchisedpast
  • Score: 1

12:24pm Fri 11 Apr 14

maxell says...

disenfranchisedpast wrote:
maxell wrote:
openspace wrote:
jayman wrote:
#advert
new café opens somewhere _ advert ????
new bus service - advert ??????
new train timetables - advert ?????
new high street shop opens - advert ?????
stars appearing at local theatres - adverts ????
adventure island expansion article - advert ?????
seafront arcade re-opens after refurbishment - advert ???????
OR
just perhaps, public service information. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But we would, of course expect you to criticise anything to do with the airport or articles about the airport, ( or in fact, just about anything about successful companies ). What a very, very sad individual, you need to get out more.
why is it that if anybody says anything adverse about the airport they are subjected to abuse, It would appear that jayman has a more realistic approch when looking into the so called brilliance of the airport. The accounts say it all , any finacial projection sems to be driven by the phase of the moon. The dbay tarnsaction was completed today, it now lookes like share holders are likley to loose money, going by other airports value it looks like southend is grossly over estimated and in reality I beleive it to be worth in the region of 60 million and thats on the generous side, the figures show the airport is loosing 13 k a day. the latest onslaught of promo is an attempt to bolster and hide reality. I would love to see stobart do well at an airport, its never good to see any bussiness fail , but they were advised of this being a cash cow, something you should expect at an airport nesled in a housing estate , perhaps they wished they had listend to the experts .I think the aiport should be renamed to pandora, stobart should never have been opened the box. my opinion as always
Firstly, no one is going to take your estimation of southends value seriously if you misspell every second word and the only "facts" you quote are from the "Stobart whistleblower page" which is up there with the chemtrails fanatics.

Secondly, the phrase cash cow, IT DOES NOT MEAN WHAT YOU THINK IT MEANS, seriously:

"Cash cow is business jargon for a business venture that generates a steady return of profits that far exceed the outlay of cash required to acquire or start it. Many businesses attempt to create or acquire such ventures, since they can be used to boost a company's overall income and to support less profitable endeavors"

This describes no airport ever.

An airport is a long term investment, it is inherent in the amount of money required to develop the infrastructure.

So now the airports losing £13K a day? Your previous calculations claimed the airport was losing £130000 a day, what's changed between now and yesterday?

If you are going to stick a "dollar value" on something, for gods sake be consistent.

People aren't "subjected to abuse" for saying things adverse to the airport, the airport has supporters and detractors, The reason Jayman was being called out is because he only seems to trot his "advert" objection out over airport related stories, not tescos stories or lakeside stories or stories related to any other business.

It is somewhat trite to claim the Airport stories are adverts. The airport is such a large employer and its services are so useful to the wider community it is a bit farcical to claim that news related to it is not in the public interest, at least in the local area.
thanks for the comment I will put my hand as a typo as you correctly state indeed the figs have changed, the privious should have read 13k and not 130k as for the airport fig I have a copy from sbc so you are way off mark about any whist;blower site, you obviously support the airport as I would If it was not in a housing estate, mate you really should spend a lot more time on research, or perhaps you know already and are also using smoke and mirrors , attack is the best line of defence , as for spelling/, diction you managed to read it and understand it enough to make comment , so what are you saying that only people who can spell are allowed to comment, once again well of the mark, I am critcised, for qouting from a WB site when all you have done is copy the cash cow bit from wiki I doubt you even opened it as it is word for word from the headline , I notice the one thing you never , commented on was pandora I guess you simply agree. The accounts are public get a copy do the math then come back and apologise,
[quote][p][bold]disenfranchisedpast[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]maxell[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]openspace[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: #advert[/p][/quote]new café opens somewhere _ advert ???? new bus service - advert ?????? new train timetables - advert ????? new high street shop opens - advert ????? stars appearing at local theatres - adverts ???? adventure island expansion article - advert ????? seafront arcade re-opens after refurbishment - advert ??????? OR just perhaps, public service information. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But we would, of course expect you to criticise anything to do with the airport or articles about the airport, ( or in fact, just about anything about successful companies ). What a very, very sad individual, you need to get out more.[/p][/quote]why is it that if anybody says anything adverse about the airport they are subjected to abuse, It would appear that jayman has a more realistic approch when looking into the so called brilliance of the airport. The accounts say it all , any finacial projection sems to be driven by the phase of the moon. The dbay tarnsaction was completed today, it now lookes like share holders are likley to loose money, going by other airports value it looks like southend is grossly over estimated and in reality I beleive it to be worth in the region of 60 million and thats on the generous side, the figures show the airport is loosing 13 k a day. the latest onslaught of promo is an attempt to bolster and hide reality. I would love to see stobart do well at an airport, its never good to see any bussiness fail , but they were advised of this being a cash cow, something you should expect at an airport nesled in a housing estate , perhaps they wished they had listend to the experts .I think the aiport should be renamed to pandora, stobart should never have been opened the box. my opinion as always[/p][/quote]Firstly, no one is going to take your estimation of southends value seriously if you misspell every second word and the only "facts" you quote are from the "Stobart whistleblower page" which is up there with the chemtrails fanatics. Secondly, the phrase cash cow, IT DOES NOT MEAN WHAT YOU THINK IT MEANS, seriously: "Cash cow is business jargon for a business venture that generates a steady return of profits that far exceed the outlay of cash required to acquire or start it. Many businesses attempt to create or acquire such ventures, since they can be used to boost a company's overall income and to support less profitable endeavors" This describes no airport ever. An airport is a long term investment, it is inherent in the amount of money required to develop the infrastructure. So now the airports losing £13K a day? Your previous calculations claimed the airport was losing £130000 a day, what's changed between now and yesterday? If you are going to stick a "dollar value" on something, for gods sake be consistent. People aren't "subjected to abuse" for saying things adverse to the airport, the airport has supporters and detractors, The reason Jayman was being called out is because he only seems to trot his "advert" objection out over airport related stories, not tescos stories or lakeside stories or stories related to any other business. It is somewhat trite to claim the Airport stories are adverts. The airport is such a large employer and its services are so useful to the wider community it is a bit farcical to claim that news related to it is not in the public interest, at least in the local area.[/p][/quote]thanks for the comment I will put my hand as a typo as you correctly state indeed the figs have changed, the privious should have read 13k and not 130k as for the airport fig I have a copy from sbc so you are way off mark about any whist;blower site, you obviously support the airport as I would If it was not in a housing estate, mate you really should spend a lot more time on research, or perhaps you know already and are also using smoke and mirrors , attack is the best line of defence , as for spelling/, diction you managed to read it and understand it enough to make comment , so what are you saying that only people who can spell are allowed to comment, once again well of the mark, I am critcised, for qouting from a WB site when all you have done is copy the cash cow bit from wiki I doubt you even opened it as it is word for word from the headline , I notice the one thing you never , commented on was pandora I guess you simply agree. The accounts are public get a copy do the math then come back and apologise, maxell
  • Score: -2

9:38pm Fri 11 Apr 14

disenfranchisedpast says...

maxell wrote:
disenfranchisedpast wrote:
maxell wrote:
openspace wrote:
jayman wrote:
#advert
new café opens somewhere _ advert ????
new bus service - advert ??????
new train timetables - advert ?????
new high street shop opens - advert ?????
stars appearing at local theatres - adverts ????
adventure island expansion article - advert ?????
seafront arcade re-opens after refurbishment - advert ???????
OR
just perhaps, public service information. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But we would, of course expect you to criticise anything to do with the airport or articles about the airport, ( or in fact, just about anything about successful companies ). What a very, very sad individual, you need to get out more.
why is it that if anybody says anything adverse about the airport they are subjected to abuse, It would appear that jayman has a more realistic approch when looking into the so called brilliance of the airport. The accounts say it all , any finacial projection sems to be driven by the phase of the moon. The dbay tarnsaction was completed today, it now lookes like share holders are likley to loose money, going by other airports value it looks like southend is grossly over estimated and in reality I beleive it to be worth in the region of 60 million and thats on the generous side, the figures show the airport is loosing 13 k a day. the latest onslaught of promo is an attempt to bolster and hide reality. I would love to see stobart do well at an airport, its never good to see any bussiness fail , but they were advised of this being a cash cow, something you should expect at an airport nesled in a housing estate , perhaps they wished they had listend to the experts .I think the aiport should be renamed to pandora, stobart should never have been opened the box. my opinion as always
Firstly, no one is going to take your estimation of southends value seriously if you misspell every second word and the only "facts" you quote are from the "Stobart whistleblower page" which is up there with the chemtrails fanatics.

Secondly, the phrase cash cow, IT DOES NOT MEAN WHAT YOU THINK IT MEANS, seriously:

"Cash cow is business jargon for a business venture that generates a steady return of profits that far exceed the outlay of cash required to acquire or start it. Many businesses attempt to create or acquire such ventures, since they can be used to boost a company's overall income and to support less profitable endeavors"

This describes no airport ever.

An airport is a long term investment, it is inherent in the amount of money required to develop the infrastructure.

So now the airports losing £13K a day? Your previous calculations claimed the airport was losing £130000 a day, what's changed between now and yesterday?

If you are going to stick a "dollar value" on something, for gods sake be consistent.

People aren't "subjected to abuse" for saying things adverse to the airport, the airport has supporters and detractors, The reason Jayman was being called out is because he only seems to trot his "advert" objection out over airport related stories, not tescos stories or lakeside stories or stories related to any other business.

It is somewhat trite to claim the Airport stories are adverts. The airport is such a large employer and its services are so useful to the wider community it is a bit farcical to claim that news related to it is not in the public interest, at least in the local area.
thanks for the comment I will put my hand as a typo as you correctly state indeed the figs have changed, the privious should have read 13k and not 130k as for the airport fig I have a copy from sbc so you are way off mark about any whist;blower site, you obviously support the airport as I would If it was not in a housing estate, mate you really should spend a lot more time on research, or perhaps you know already and are also using smoke and mirrors , attack is the best line of defence , as for spelling/, diction you managed to read it and understand it enough to make comment , so what are you saying that only people who can spell are allowed to comment, once again well of the mark, I am critcised, for qouting from a WB site when all you have done is copy the cash cow bit from wiki I doubt you even opened it as it is word for word from the headline , I notice the one thing you never , commented on was pandora I guess you simply agree. The accounts are public get a copy do the math then come back and apologise,
No I am not "way off the mark" about the whistleblower page, if the tumbler is the same as the old whistleblower site, it belongs to peter elliot, a man with a major axe to grind against stobart, so you'll forgive me of I treat anything on there with a pinch of salt.

What you posted regarding ILS approaches is wrong, that is clear to anyone with even a smidgeon of aviation experience.

Opened what? I know what a cash cow is, what you are describing is not a cash cow, I copied the wiki definition to try and make it a bit clearer.

To claim southend is not workable because it is "in the middle of a housing estate" is foolish, there are many more airports in built up areas, London city springs to mind.

I disagree with your maths, you are implying that because the airport is not turning a profit two years after investing 100+ million pounds that it is failing, Any investment of that size is going to take time to produce a profit. What the accounts do show is that their deficit is decreasing each year, I would assume it will be less this year as well, so I won't apologise just yet.

Also I didn't comment on pandora because it was a foolish opinion, to infer someone agrees with you from no comment is a bit of a strawman.
[quote][p][bold]maxell[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]disenfranchisedpast[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]maxell[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]openspace[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: #advert[/p][/quote]new café opens somewhere _ advert ???? new bus service - advert ?????? new train timetables - advert ????? new high street shop opens - advert ????? stars appearing at local theatres - adverts ???? adventure island expansion article - advert ????? seafront arcade re-opens after refurbishment - advert ??????? OR just perhaps, public service information. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But we would, of course expect you to criticise anything to do with the airport or articles about the airport, ( or in fact, just about anything about successful companies ). What a very, very sad individual, you need to get out more.[/p][/quote]why is it that if anybody says anything adverse about the airport they are subjected to abuse, It would appear that jayman has a more realistic approch when looking into the so called brilliance of the airport. The accounts say it all , any finacial projection sems to be driven by the phase of the moon. The dbay tarnsaction was completed today, it now lookes like share holders are likley to loose money, going by other airports value it looks like southend is grossly over estimated and in reality I beleive it to be worth in the region of 60 million and thats on the generous side, the figures show the airport is loosing 13 k a day. the latest onslaught of promo is an attempt to bolster and hide reality. I would love to see stobart do well at an airport, its never good to see any bussiness fail , but they were advised of this being a cash cow, something you should expect at an airport nesled in a housing estate , perhaps they wished they had listend to the experts .I think the aiport should be renamed to pandora, stobart should never have been opened the box. my opinion as always[/p][/quote]Firstly, no one is going to take your estimation of southends value seriously if you misspell every second word and the only "facts" you quote are from the "Stobart whistleblower page" which is up there with the chemtrails fanatics. Secondly, the phrase cash cow, IT DOES NOT MEAN WHAT YOU THINK IT MEANS, seriously: "Cash cow is business jargon for a business venture that generates a steady return of profits that far exceed the outlay of cash required to acquire or start it. Many businesses attempt to create or acquire such ventures, since they can be used to boost a company's overall income and to support less profitable endeavors" This describes no airport ever. An airport is a long term investment, it is inherent in the amount of money required to develop the infrastructure. So now the airports losing £13K a day? Your previous calculations claimed the airport was losing £130000 a day, what's changed between now and yesterday? If you are going to stick a "dollar value" on something, for gods sake be consistent. People aren't "subjected to abuse" for saying things adverse to the airport, the airport has supporters and detractors, The reason Jayman was being called out is because he only seems to trot his "advert" objection out over airport related stories, not tescos stories or lakeside stories or stories related to any other business. It is somewhat trite to claim the Airport stories are adverts. The airport is such a large employer and its services are so useful to the wider community it is a bit farcical to claim that news related to it is not in the public interest, at least in the local area.[/p][/quote]thanks for the comment I will put my hand as a typo as you correctly state indeed the figs have changed, the privious should have read 13k and not 130k as for the airport fig I have a copy from sbc so you are way off mark about any whist;blower site, you obviously support the airport as I would If it was not in a housing estate, mate you really should spend a lot more time on research, or perhaps you know already and are also using smoke and mirrors , attack is the best line of defence , as for spelling/, diction you managed to read it and understand it enough to make comment , so what are you saying that only people who can spell are allowed to comment, once again well of the mark, I am critcised, for qouting from a WB site when all you have done is copy the cash cow bit from wiki I doubt you even opened it as it is word for word from the headline , I notice the one thing you never , commented on was pandora I guess you simply agree. The accounts are public get a copy do the math then come back and apologise,[/p][/quote]No I am not "way off the mark" about the whistleblower page, if the tumbler is the same as the old whistleblower site, it belongs to peter elliot, a man with a major axe to grind against stobart, so you'll forgive me of I treat anything on there with a pinch of salt. What you posted regarding ILS approaches is wrong, that is clear to anyone with even a smidgeon of aviation experience. Opened what? I know what a cash cow is, what you are describing is not a cash cow, I copied the wiki definition to try and make it a bit clearer. To claim southend is not workable because it is "in the middle of a housing estate" is foolish, there are many more airports in built up areas, London city springs to mind. I disagree with your maths, you are implying that because the airport is not turning a profit two years after investing 100+ million pounds that it is failing, Any investment of that size is going to take time to produce a profit. What the accounts do show is that their deficit is decreasing each year, I would assume it will be less this year as well, so I won't apologise just yet. Also I didn't comment on pandora because it was a foolish opinion, to infer someone agrees with you from no comment is a bit of a strawman. disenfranchisedpast
  • Score: 1

5:41pm Sat 12 Apr 14

maxell says...

disenfranchisedpast wrote:
maxell wrote:
disenfranchisedpast wrote:
maxell wrote:
openspace wrote:
jayman wrote:
#advert
new café opens somewhere _ advert ????
new bus service - advert ??????
new train timetables - advert ?????
new high street shop opens - advert ?????
stars appearing at local theatres - adverts ????
adventure island expansion article - advert ?????
seafront arcade re-opens after refurbishment - advert ???????
OR
just perhaps, public service information. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But we would, of course expect you to criticise anything to do with the airport or articles about the airport, ( or in fact, just about anything about successful companies ). What a very, very sad individual, you need to get out more.
why is it that if anybody says anything adverse about the airport they are subjected to abuse, It would appear that jayman has a more realistic approch when looking into the so called brilliance of the airport. The accounts say it all , any finacial projection sems to be driven by the phase of the moon. The dbay tarnsaction was completed today, it now lookes like share holders are likley to loose money, going by other airports value it looks like southend is grossly over estimated and in reality I beleive it to be worth in the region of 60 million and thats on the generous side, the figures show the airport is loosing 13 k a day. the latest onslaught of promo is an attempt to bolster and hide reality. I would love to see stobart do well at an airport, its never good to see any bussiness fail , but they were advised of this being a cash cow, something you should expect at an airport nesled in a housing estate , perhaps they wished they had listend to the experts .I think the aiport should be renamed to pandora, stobart should never have been opened the box. my opinion as always
Firstly, no one is going to take your estimation of southends value seriously if you misspell every second word and the only "facts" you quote are from the "Stobart whistleblower page" which is up there with the chemtrails fanatics.

Secondly, the phrase cash cow, IT DOES NOT MEAN WHAT YOU THINK IT MEANS, seriously:

"Cash cow is business jargon for a business venture that generates a steady return of profits that far exceed the outlay of cash required to acquire or start it. Many businesses attempt to create or acquire such ventures, since they can be used to boost a company's overall income and to support less profitable endeavors"

This describes no airport ever.

An airport is a long term investment, it is inherent in the amount of money required to develop the infrastructure.

So now the airports losing £13K a day? Your previous calculations claimed the airport was losing £130000 a day, what's changed between now and yesterday?

If you are going to stick a "dollar value" on something, for gods sake be consistent.

People aren't "subjected to abuse" for saying things adverse to the airport, the airport has supporters and detractors, The reason Jayman was being called out is because he only seems to trot his "advert" objection out over airport related stories, not tescos stories or lakeside stories or stories related to any other business.

It is somewhat trite to claim the Airport stories are adverts. The airport is such a large employer and its services are so useful to the wider community it is a bit farcical to claim that news related to it is not in the public interest, at least in the local area.
thanks for the comment I will put my hand as a typo as you correctly state indeed the figs have changed, the privious should have read 13k and not 130k as for the airport fig I have a copy from sbc so you are way off mark about any whist;blower site, you obviously support the airport as I would If it was not in a housing estate, mate you really should spend a lot more time on research, or perhaps you know already and are also using smoke and mirrors , attack is the best line of defence , as for spelling/, diction you managed to read it and understand it enough to make comment , so what are you saying that only people who can spell are allowed to comment, once again well of the mark, I am critcised, for qouting from a WB site when all you have done is copy the cash cow bit from wiki I doubt you even opened it as it is word for word from the headline , I notice the one thing you never , commented on was pandora I guess you simply agree. The accounts are public get a copy do the math then come back and apologise,
No I am not "way off the mark" about the whistleblower page, if the tumbler is the same as the old whistleblower site, it belongs to peter elliot, a man with a major axe to grind against stobart, so you'll forgive me of I treat anything on there with a pinch of salt.

What you posted regarding ILS approaches is wrong, that is clear to anyone with even a smidgeon of aviation experience.

Opened what? I know what a cash cow is, what you are describing is not a cash cow, I copied the wiki definition to try and make it a bit clearer.

To claim southend is not workable because it is "in the middle of a housing estate" is foolish, there are many more airports in built up areas, London city springs to mind.

I disagree with your maths, you are implying that because the airport is not turning a profit two years after investing 100+ million pounds that it is failing, Any investment of that size is going to take time to produce a profit. What the accounts do show is that their deficit is decreasing each year, I would assume it will be less this year as well, so I won't apologise just yet.

Also I didn't comment on pandora because it was a foolish opinion, to infer someone agrees with you from no comment is a bit of a strawman.
latest reports are looking at closing london city as it has more value as building land , each year the airport must submit accounts to council it has nothing to do with investment, or how much may claimed to have outlaid , but the profit is zero and it is not even breaking even it is loosing money , they are not turning a profit at the airport full stop, they have still hundreds of thousand s to spend out and pollution remdy , I assume that you now have the accounts and you will notice that the figs are based on a shorter period than a year so it is infact worse than it 1st looks they are loosing abot 13,800 per day , the intrest on loans is cripperling they must make serious attempts to reduce the deficit as all the time they are loosing the intrest is mounting, and it will get to a level that the company is insolvent, it is illegal to trade whilst insolvent I think you will find, so where is the money going to come from, landing fees No, hotel No , Car parks NO , they will need to borrow more to complete there obligation of the planning consent, how would you pay bilis with no money comming in unless you have a way of being bailed out, and just because stobart own many companies if one diveision of the company pays the debt of another that is still being bailed out, at present the airport has no way of climbing out the pit, espeacily if we have a good summer they may have a chance to recover if the weather pushes people abroad, (LCA link) http://www.bbc.co.uk
/news/uk-england-lon
don-26965052
[quote][p][bold]disenfranchisedpast[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]maxell[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]disenfranchisedpast[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]maxell[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]openspace[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: #advert[/p][/quote]new café opens somewhere _ advert ???? new bus service - advert ?????? new train timetables - advert ????? new high street shop opens - advert ????? stars appearing at local theatres - adverts ???? adventure island expansion article - advert ????? seafront arcade re-opens after refurbishment - advert ??????? OR just perhaps, public service information. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But we would, of course expect you to criticise anything to do with the airport or articles about the airport, ( or in fact, just about anything about successful companies ). What a very, very sad individual, you need to get out more.[/p][/quote]why is it that if anybody says anything adverse about the airport they are subjected to abuse, It would appear that jayman has a more realistic approch when looking into the so called brilliance of the airport. The accounts say it all , any finacial projection sems to be driven by the phase of the moon. The dbay tarnsaction was completed today, it now lookes like share holders are likley to loose money, going by other airports value it looks like southend is grossly over estimated and in reality I beleive it to be worth in the region of 60 million and thats on the generous side, the figures show the airport is loosing 13 k a day. the latest onslaught of promo is an attempt to bolster and hide reality. I would love to see stobart do well at an airport, its never good to see any bussiness fail , but they were advised of this being a cash cow, something you should expect at an airport nesled in a housing estate , perhaps they wished they had listend to the experts .I think the aiport should be renamed to pandora, stobart should never have been opened the box. my opinion as always[/p][/quote]Firstly, no one is going to take your estimation of southends value seriously if you misspell every second word and the only "facts" you quote are from the "Stobart whistleblower page" which is up there with the chemtrails fanatics. Secondly, the phrase cash cow, IT DOES NOT MEAN WHAT YOU THINK IT MEANS, seriously: "Cash cow is business jargon for a business venture that generates a steady return of profits that far exceed the outlay of cash required to acquire or start it. Many businesses attempt to create or acquire such ventures, since they can be used to boost a company's overall income and to support less profitable endeavors" This describes no airport ever. An airport is a long term investment, it is inherent in the amount of money required to develop the infrastructure. So now the airports losing £13K a day? Your previous calculations claimed the airport was losing £130000 a day, what's changed between now and yesterday? If you are going to stick a "dollar value" on something, for gods sake be consistent. People aren't "subjected to abuse" for saying things adverse to the airport, the airport has supporters and detractors, The reason Jayman was being called out is because he only seems to trot his "advert" objection out over airport related stories, not tescos stories or lakeside stories or stories related to any other business. It is somewhat trite to claim the Airport stories are adverts. The airport is such a large employer and its services are so useful to the wider community it is a bit farcical to claim that news related to it is not in the public interest, at least in the local area.[/p][/quote]thanks for the comment I will put my hand as a typo as you correctly state indeed the figs have changed, the privious should have read 13k and not 130k as for the airport fig I have a copy from sbc so you are way off mark about any whist;blower site, you obviously support the airport as I would If it was not in a housing estate, mate you really should spend a lot more time on research, or perhaps you know already and are also using smoke and mirrors , attack is the best line of defence , as for spelling/, diction you managed to read it and understand it enough to make comment , so what are you saying that only people who can spell are allowed to comment, once again well of the mark, I am critcised, for qouting from a WB site when all you have done is copy the cash cow bit from wiki I doubt you even opened it as it is word for word from the headline , I notice the one thing you never , commented on was pandora I guess you simply agree. The accounts are public get a copy do the math then come back and apologise,[/p][/quote]No I am not "way off the mark" about the whistleblower page, if the tumbler is the same as the old whistleblower site, it belongs to peter elliot, a man with a major axe to grind against stobart, so you'll forgive me of I treat anything on there with a pinch of salt. What you posted regarding ILS approaches is wrong, that is clear to anyone with even a smidgeon of aviation experience. Opened what? I know what a cash cow is, what you are describing is not a cash cow, I copied the wiki definition to try and make it a bit clearer. To claim southend is not workable because it is "in the middle of a housing estate" is foolish, there are many more airports in built up areas, London city springs to mind. I disagree with your maths, you are implying that because the airport is not turning a profit two years after investing 100+ million pounds that it is failing, Any investment of that size is going to take time to produce a profit. What the accounts do show is that their deficit is decreasing each year, I would assume it will be less this year as well, so I won't apologise just yet. Also I didn't comment on pandora because it was a foolish opinion, to infer someone agrees with you from no comment is a bit of a strawman.[/p][/quote]latest reports are looking at closing london city as it has more value as building land , each year the airport must submit accounts to council it has nothing to do with investment, or how much may claimed to have outlaid , but the profit is zero and it is not even breaking even it is loosing money , they are not turning a profit at the airport full stop, they have still hundreds of thousand s to spend out and pollution remdy , I assume that you now have the accounts and you will notice that the figs are based on a shorter period than a year so it is infact worse than it 1st looks they are loosing abot 13,800 per day , the intrest on loans is cripperling they must make serious attempts to reduce the deficit as all the time they are loosing the intrest is mounting, and it will get to a level that the company is insolvent, it is illegal to trade whilst insolvent I think you will find, so where is the money going to come from, landing fees No, hotel No , Car parks NO , they will need to borrow more to complete there obligation of the planning consent, how would you pay bilis with no money comming in unless you have a way of being bailed out, and just because stobart own many companies if one diveision of the company pays the debt of another that is still being bailed out, at present the airport has no way of climbing out the pit, espeacily if we have a good summer they may have a chance to recover if the weather pushes people abroad, (LCA link) http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/uk-england-lon don-26965052 maxell
  • Score: 0

12:40am Sun 13 Apr 14

disenfranchisedpast says...

maxell wrote:
disenfranchisedpast wrote:
maxell wrote:
disenfranchisedpast wrote:
maxell wrote:
openspace wrote:
jayman wrote:
#advert
new café opens somewhere _ advert ????
new bus service - advert ??????
new train timetables - advert ?????
new high street shop opens - advert ?????
stars appearing at local theatres - adverts ????
adventure island expansion article - advert ?????
seafront arcade re-opens after refurbishment - advert ???????
OR
just perhaps, public service information. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But we would, of course expect you to criticise anything to do with the airport or articles about the airport, ( or in fact, just about anything about successful companies ). What a very, very sad individual, you need to get out more.
why is it that if anybody says anything adverse about the airport they are subjected to abuse, It would appear that jayman has a more realistic approch when looking into the so called brilliance of the airport. The accounts say it all , any finacial projection sems to be driven by the phase of the moon. The dbay tarnsaction was completed today, it now lookes like share holders are likley to loose money, going by other airports value it looks like southend is grossly over estimated and in reality I beleive it to be worth in the region of 60 million and thats on the generous side, the figures show the airport is loosing 13 k a day. the latest onslaught of promo is an attempt to bolster and hide reality. I would love to see stobart do well at an airport, its never good to see any bussiness fail , but they were advised of this being a cash cow, something you should expect at an airport nesled in a housing estate , perhaps they wished they had listend to the experts .I think the aiport should be renamed to pandora, stobart should never have been opened the box. my opinion as always
Firstly, no one is going to take your estimation of southends value seriously if you misspell every second word and the only "facts" you quote are from the "Stobart whistleblower page" which is up there with the chemtrails fanatics.

Secondly, the phrase cash cow, IT DOES NOT MEAN WHAT YOU THINK IT MEANS, seriously:

"Cash cow is business jargon for a business venture that generates a steady return of profits that far exceed the outlay of cash required to acquire or start it. Many businesses attempt to create or acquire such ventures, since they can be used to boost a company's overall income and to support less profitable endeavors"

This describes no airport ever.

An airport is a long term investment, it is inherent in the amount of money required to develop the infrastructure.

So now the airports losing £13K a day? Your previous calculations claimed the airport was losing £130000 a day, what's changed between now and yesterday?

If you are going to stick a "dollar value" on something, for gods sake be consistent.

People aren't "subjected to abuse" for saying things adverse to the airport, the airport has supporters and detractors, The reason Jayman was being called out is because he only seems to trot his "advert" objection out over airport related stories, not tescos stories or lakeside stories or stories related to any other business.

It is somewhat trite to claim the Airport stories are adverts. The airport is such a large employer and its services are so useful to the wider community it is a bit farcical to claim that news related to it is not in the public interest, at least in the local area.
thanks for the comment I will put my hand as a typo as you correctly state indeed the figs have changed, the privious should have read 13k and not 130k as for the airport fig I have a copy from sbc so you are way off mark about any whist;blower site, you obviously support the airport as I would If it was not in a housing estate, mate you really should spend a lot more time on research, or perhaps you know already and are also using smoke and mirrors , attack is the best line of defence , as for spelling/, diction you managed to read it and understand it enough to make comment , so what are you saying that only people who can spell are allowed to comment, once again well of the mark, I am critcised, for qouting from a WB site when all you have done is copy the cash cow bit from wiki I doubt you even opened it as it is word for word from the headline , I notice the one thing you never , commented on was pandora I guess you simply agree. The accounts are public get a copy do the math then come back and apologise,
No I am not "way off the mark" about the whistleblower page, if the tumbler is the same as the old whistleblower site, it belongs to peter elliot, a man with a major axe to grind against stobart, so you'll forgive me of I treat anything on there with a pinch of salt.

What you posted regarding ILS approaches is wrong, that is clear to anyone with even a smidgeon of aviation experience.

Opened what? I know what a cash cow is, what you are describing is not a cash cow, I copied the wiki definition to try and make it a bit clearer.

To claim southend is not workable because it is "in the middle of a housing estate" is foolish, there are many more airports in built up areas, London city springs to mind.

I disagree with your maths, you are implying that because the airport is not turning a profit two years after investing 100+ million pounds that it is failing, Any investment of that size is going to take time to produce a profit. What the accounts do show is that their deficit is decreasing each year, I would assume it will be less this year as well, so I won't apologise just yet.

Also I didn't comment on pandora because it was a foolish opinion, to infer someone agrees with you from no comment is a bit of a strawman.
latest reports are looking at closing london city as it has more value as building land , each year the airport must submit accounts to council it has nothing to do with investment, or how much may claimed to have outlaid , but the profit is zero and it is not even breaking even it is loosing money , they are not turning a profit at the airport full stop, they have still hundreds of thousand s to spend out and pollution remdy , I assume that you now have the accounts and you will notice that the figs are based on a shorter period than a year so it is infact worse than it 1st looks they are loosing abot 13,800 per day , the intrest on loans is cripperling they must make serious attempts to reduce the deficit as all the time they are loosing the intrest is mounting, and it will get to a level that the company is insolvent, it is illegal to trade whilst insolvent I think you will find, so where is the money going to come from, landing fees No, hotel No , Car parks NO , they will need to borrow more to complete there obligation of the planning consent, how would you pay bilis with no money comming in unless you have a way of being bailed out, and just because stobart own many companies if one diveision of the company pays the debt of another that is still being bailed out, at present the airport has no way of climbing out the pit, espeacily if we have a good summer they may have a chance to recover if the weather pushes people abroad, (LCA link) http://www.bbc.co.uk

/news/uk-england-lon

don-26965052
No latest reports aren't looking at closing london city, one thinktank said the land would be more valuable as housing which is a particularly derpy statement to make, because in theory most things would be more "valuable" as housing, especially in the short term view that one report (not reports as you claim) takes.

The report intentionaly fails to take into account the wider economic impact the airport has as both a large employer and the trickle down effect of a centrally located transport hub.

With regard to southends solvency, You seem to be misunderstanding or deliberatly misrepresenting the accounts.

If the company borrowed a large chunk of money to invest in the airport, it will have to service that debt before it makes a profit. The accounts show its deficit has decreased by approx. £1million over the last 2 years. That would indicate that they are paying down their debt.

Thats because investing 100 million in an airport is what the financial people would call a long term investment.

Your last paragraphs seem to blur together and not make much sense, I see no indication that the company is insolvent, you disregard landing fees, parking and the hotel as a source of revenue without any real justification.

Seriously look at the sentance "they have still hundreds of thousand s to spend out and pollution remdy"

What exactly are you trying to say, I would like to avoid ad hominen attacks, but I am having a difficult time piecing together your argument.
[quote][p][bold]maxell[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]disenfranchisedpast[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]maxell[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]disenfranchisedpast[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]maxell[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]openspace[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: #advert[/p][/quote]new café opens somewhere _ advert ???? new bus service - advert ?????? new train timetables - advert ????? new high street shop opens - advert ????? stars appearing at local theatres - adverts ???? adventure island expansion article - advert ????? seafront arcade re-opens after refurbishment - advert ??????? OR just perhaps, public service information. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But we would, of course expect you to criticise anything to do with the airport or articles about the airport, ( or in fact, just about anything about successful companies ). What a very, very sad individual, you need to get out more.[/p][/quote]why is it that if anybody says anything adverse about the airport they are subjected to abuse, It would appear that jayman has a more realistic approch when looking into the so called brilliance of the airport. The accounts say it all , any finacial projection sems to be driven by the phase of the moon. The dbay tarnsaction was completed today, it now lookes like share holders are likley to loose money, going by other airports value it looks like southend is grossly over estimated and in reality I beleive it to be worth in the region of 60 million and thats on the generous side, the figures show the airport is loosing 13 k a day. the latest onslaught of promo is an attempt to bolster and hide reality. I would love to see stobart do well at an airport, its never good to see any bussiness fail , but they were advised of this being a cash cow, something you should expect at an airport nesled in a housing estate , perhaps they wished they had listend to the experts .I think the aiport should be renamed to pandora, stobart should never have been opened the box. my opinion as always[/p][/quote]Firstly, no one is going to take your estimation of southends value seriously if you misspell every second word and the only "facts" you quote are from the "Stobart whistleblower page" which is up there with the chemtrails fanatics. Secondly, the phrase cash cow, IT DOES NOT MEAN WHAT YOU THINK IT MEANS, seriously: "Cash cow is business jargon for a business venture that generates a steady return of profits that far exceed the outlay of cash required to acquire or start it. Many businesses attempt to create or acquire such ventures, since they can be used to boost a company's overall income and to support less profitable endeavors" This describes no airport ever. An airport is a long term investment, it is inherent in the amount of money required to develop the infrastructure. So now the airports losing £13K a day? Your previous calculations claimed the airport was losing £130000 a day, what's changed between now and yesterday? If you are going to stick a "dollar value" on something, for gods sake be consistent. People aren't "subjected to abuse" for saying things adverse to the airport, the airport has supporters and detractors, The reason Jayman was being called out is because he only seems to trot his "advert" objection out over airport related stories, not tescos stories or lakeside stories or stories related to any other business. It is somewhat trite to claim the Airport stories are adverts. The airport is such a large employer and its services are so useful to the wider community it is a bit farcical to claim that news related to it is not in the public interest, at least in the local area.[/p][/quote]thanks for the comment I will put my hand as a typo as you correctly state indeed the figs have changed, the privious should have read 13k and not 130k as for the airport fig I have a copy from sbc so you are way off mark about any whist;blower site, you obviously support the airport as I would If it was not in a housing estate, mate you really should spend a lot more time on research, or perhaps you know already and are also using smoke and mirrors , attack is the best line of defence , as for spelling/, diction you managed to read it and understand it enough to make comment , so what are you saying that only people who can spell are allowed to comment, once again well of the mark, I am critcised, for qouting from a WB site when all you have done is copy the cash cow bit from wiki I doubt you even opened it as it is word for word from the headline , I notice the one thing you never , commented on was pandora I guess you simply agree. The accounts are public get a copy do the math then come back and apologise,[/p][/quote]No I am not "way off the mark" about the whistleblower page, if the tumbler is the same as the old whistleblower site, it belongs to peter elliot, a man with a major axe to grind against stobart, so you'll forgive me of I treat anything on there with a pinch of salt. What you posted regarding ILS approaches is wrong, that is clear to anyone with even a smidgeon of aviation experience. Opened what? I know what a cash cow is, what you are describing is not a cash cow, I copied the wiki definition to try and make it a bit clearer. To claim southend is not workable because it is "in the middle of a housing estate" is foolish, there are many more airports in built up areas, London city springs to mind. I disagree with your maths, you are implying that because the airport is not turning a profit two years after investing 100+ million pounds that it is failing, Any investment of that size is going to take time to produce a profit. What the accounts do show is that their deficit is decreasing each year, I would assume it will be less this year as well, so I won't apologise just yet. Also I didn't comment on pandora because it was a foolish opinion, to infer someone agrees with you from no comment is a bit of a strawman.[/p][/quote]latest reports are looking at closing london city as it has more value as building land , each year the airport must submit accounts to council it has nothing to do with investment, or how much may claimed to have outlaid , but the profit is zero and it is not even breaking even it is loosing money , they are not turning a profit at the airport full stop, they have still hundreds of thousand s to spend out and pollution remdy , I assume that you now have the accounts and you will notice that the figs are based on a shorter period than a year so it is infact worse than it 1st looks they are loosing abot 13,800 per day , the intrest on loans is cripperling they must make serious attempts to reduce the deficit as all the time they are loosing the intrest is mounting, and it will get to a level that the company is insolvent, it is illegal to trade whilst insolvent I think you will find, so where is the money going to come from, landing fees No, hotel No , Car parks NO , they will need to borrow more to complete there obligation of the planning consent, how would you pay bilis with no money comming in unless you have a way of being bailed out, and just because stobart own many companies if one diveision of the company pays the debt of another that is still being bailed out, at present the airport has no way of climbing out the pit, espeacily if we have a good summer they may have a chance to recover if the weather pushes people abroad, (LCA link) http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/uk-england-lon don-26965052[/p][/quote]No latest reports aren't looking at closing london city, one thinktank said the land would be more valuable as housing which is a particularly derpy statement to make, because in theory most things would be more "valuable" as housing, especially in the short term view that one report (not reports as you claim) takes. The report intentionaly fails to take into account the wider economic impact the airport has as both a large employer and the trickle down effect of a centrally located transport hub. With regard to southends solvency, You seem to be misunderstanding or deliberatly misrepresenting the accounts. If the company borrowed a large chunk of money to invest in the airport, it will have to service that debt before it makes a profit. The accounts show its deficit has decreased by approx. £1million over the last 2 years. That would indicate that they are paying down their debt. Thats because investing 100 million in an airport is what the financial people would call a long term investment. Your last paragraphs seem to blur together and not make much sense, I see no indication that the company is insolvent, you disregard landing fees, parking and the hotel as a source of revenue without any real justification. Seriously look at the sentance "they have still hundreds of thousand s to spend out and pollution remdy" What exactly are you trying to say, I would like to avoid ad hominen attacks, but I am having a difficult time piecing together your argument. disenfranchisedpast
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9:22am Sun 13 Apr 14

openspace says...

I suppose that for most of us, it is comforting to know that the negative comments of various posters like Jayman and others have absolutely no effect whatsoever on anything. I doubt that many people, ( if any ) take,them seriously.
And , of course, the airport is there, working extremely successfully and expanding, ( which must be very annoying for the moaners ). House prices in the area have not suffered at all, ( very galling for the compensation seekers ). A number of jobs have been generated by the airport, ( not going into a counting match but it's quite a few ), local hotels are probably benefiting together with service suppliers , taxi firms, etc, etc, etc.

SO , be as negative as you like, it's all happening.
I suppose that for most of us, it is comforting to know that the negative comments of various posters like Jayman and others have absolutely no effect whatsoever on anything. I doubt that many people, ( if any ) take,them seriously. And , of course, the airport is there, working extremely successfully and expanding, ( which must be very annoying for the moaners ). House prices in the area have not suffered at all, ( very galling for the compensation seekers ). A number of jobs have been generated by the airport, ( not going into a counting match but it's quite a few ), local hotels are probably benefiting together with service suppliers , taxi firms, etc, etc, etc. SO , be as negative as you like, it's all happening. openspace
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4:05pm Sun 13 Apr 14

maxell says...

what as informed as your you are not aware of the pollution issues espeacily water.
what as informed as your you are not aware of the pollution issues espeacily water. maxell
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7:18pm Sun 13 Apr 14

disenfranchisedpast says...

No I am not sure which pollution issues you are refering to in the previous post as the sentance doesn't really make sense.

I don't see where the "hundreds of thousands to pay out" connects to "pollution remdy"
No I am not sure which pollution issues you are refering to in the previous post as the sentance doesn't really make sense. I don't see where the "hundreds of thousands to pay out" connects to "pollution remdy" disenfranchisedpast
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