Woman, 84, bitten by staffie on loose in Woodgrange estate, Southend

Daughter claims loose dog should be destroyed after it bites her 84-year-old mother and attacks her dog

Daughter claims loose dog should be destroyed after it bites her 84-year-old mother and attacks her dog

First published in Southend by

A WOMAN, aged 84, was bitten by a dog while out walking her Yorkshire Terrier on Southend’s Woodgrange estate.

Joan Bowyer, from Shoebury, and her 11-year-old Yorkshire terrier Whitney were attacked by a Staffordshire bull terrier in Pierrot Steps, Kursaal Way.

Joan had been visiting her daughter Alison and was bitten on the hand while her dog needed a trip to the vets.

It was a rare trip out for Mrs Bowyer who has been housebound recently through illness.

She said: “People should be warned about this dog.

“A lot of people take their kids and dogs to play on the green. It could kill them.

“We had just got out the door and the dog jumped on her.

“Whitney is hurt pretty badly.

"She had no chance against a big staffie. She just keeps sitting in the corner shaking. Since I lost my husband she’s my only companion.

"The owner just thought it was a joke.”

The attack happened shortly after noon on the green outside Alison’s flat on Tuesday.

Alison said: “I think the dog should be destroyed. It just came running round the corner.

“It was fairly obvious it had been let out to go to the toilet as it would’ve had to get through two metal doors otherwise – but the owner did not want to know.

“It was not on a lead and there are notices saying the owner of any dog not on a lead will be prosecuted.”

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8:54am Tue 8 Apr 14

Nebs says...

Perhaps a photograph of the owner, and their comments, would be useful to help the debate.
Perhaps a photograph of the owner, and their comments, would be useful to help the debate. Nebs
  • Score: 21

9:30am Tue 8 Apr 14

pembury53 says...

nothing a piece of steak and some rat poison wouldn't solve.......
nothing a piece of steak and some rat poison wouldn't solve....... pembury53
  • Score: 5

9:35am Tue 8 Apr 14

Matthew S. Dent says...

That's not a Yorkshire terrier in the picture.

Did someone just do a Google Image search for "dog"?
That's not a Yorkshire terrier in the picture. Did someone just do a Google Image search for "dog"? Matthew S. Dent
  • Score: -11

9:36am Tue 8 Apr 14

Kim Gandy says...

What on earth is a dog like that doing loose anyway? Obviously owned by some meat head thug if they are prepared to let it run loose and be a danger to others.

The dog licence needs to be reintroduced. It was scrapped years ago but if it was brought back, bad owners could be prosecuted.

If people can't be responsible about their pets they shouldn't be allowed to have them.
What on earth is a dog like that doing loose anyway? Obviously owned by some meat head thug if they are prepared to let it run loose and be a danger to others. The dog licence needs to be reintroduced. It was scrapped years ago but if it was brought back, bad owners could be prosecuted. If people can't be responsible about their pets they shouldn't be allowed to have them. Kim Gandy
  • Score: 41

9:39am Tue 8 Apr 14

Loosers says...

How many more dog attacks before action is taken to implement, and enforce, lead and muzzle requirements for all dogs outside of their own residence. All those in favour should contact SBC Dog Warden's office. The council's idea of dog warden duties seems to revolve around sitting behind a desk. Thankfully dogs will shortly be banned from the beaches until beginning of October which will be a welcome relief after suffering months of loose dogs running around all over the place completely out of control. Enough is enough!
How many more dog attacks before action is taken to implement, and enforce, lead and muzzle requirements for all dogs outside of their own residence. All those in favour should contact SBC Dog Warden's office. The council's idea of dog warden duties seems to revolve around sitting behind a desk. Thankfully dogs will shortly be banned from the beaches until beginning of October which will be a welcome relief after suffering months of loose dogs running around all over the place completely out of control. Enough is enough! Loosers
  • Score: 8

9:55am Tue 8 Apr 14

pembury53 says...

Loosers wrote:
How many more dog attacks before action is taken to implement, and enforce, lead and muzzle requirements for all dogs outside of their own residence. All those in favour should contact SBC Dog Warden's office. The council's idea of dog warden duties seems to revolve around sitting behind a desk. Thankfully dogs will shortly be banned from the beaches until beginning of October which will be a welcome relief after suffering months of loose dogs running around all over the place completely out of control. Enough is enough!
the beach ban will have to be 'self imposed' as it certainly will not be enforced...
[quote][p][bold]Loosers[/bold] wrote: How many more dog attacks before action is taken to implement, and enforce, lead and muzzle requirements for all dogs outside of their own residence. All those in favour should contact SBC Dog Warden's office. The council's idea of dog warden duties seems to revolve around sitting behind a desk. Thankfully dogs will shortly be banned from the beaches until beginning of October which will be a welcome relief after suffering months of loose dogs running around all over the place completely out of control. Enough is enough![/p][/quote]the beach ban will have to be 'self imposed' as it certainly will not be enforced... pembury53
  • Score: 12

10:40am Tue 8 Apr 14

carnmountyouknowitmakessense says...

Is the age, 84 rellavent ? bitten on the hand suggests she was inviting the dog to make an approach, was the other dog yappy? 6of one, half a dozen of the other.
Both had dogs, in a public domain, without the dogs, there would be zero story.
Is the age, 84 rellavent ? bitten on the hand suggests she was inviting the dog to make an approach, was the other dog yappy? 6of one, half a dozen of the other. Both had dogs, in a public domain, without the dogs, there would be zero story. carnmountyouknowitmakessense
  • Score: -40

11:34am Tue 8 Apr 14

Kim Gandy says...

carnmountyouknowitma
kessense
wrote:
Is the age, 84 rellavent ? bitten on the hand suggests she was inviting the dog to make an approach, was the other dog yappy? 6of one, half a dozen of the other.
Both had dogs, in a public domain, without the dogs, there would be zero story.
usual reaction, as expected.

Zzzzzzzzzzzz
[quote][p][bold]carnmountyouknowitma kessense[/bold] wrote: Is the age, 84 rellavent ? bitten on the hand suggests she was inviting the dog to make an approach, was the other dog yappy? 6of one, half a dozen of the other. Both had dogs, in a public domain, without the dogs, there would be zero story.[/p][/quote]usual reaction, as expected. Zzzzzzzzzzzz Kim Gandy
  • Score: 17

11:48am Tue 8 Apr 14

carnmountyouknowitmakessense says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
carnmountyouknowitma

kessense
wrote:
Is the age, 84 rellavent ? bitten on the hand suggests she was inviting the dog to make an approach, was the other dog yappy? 6of one, half a dozen of the other.
Both had dogs, in a public domain, without the dogs, there would be zero story.
usual reaction, as expected.

Zzzzzzzzzzzz
Usual brain dead reply, from a redundant flat dweller ZZZzzz
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]carnmountyouknowitma kessense[/bold] wrote: Is the age, 84 rellavent ? bitten on the hand suggests she was inviting the dog to make an approach, was the other dog yappy? 6of one, half a dozen of the other. Both had dogs, in a public domain, without the dogs, there would be zero story.[/p][/quote]usual reaction, as expected. Zzzzzzzzzzzz[/p][/quote]Usual brain dead reply, from a redundant flat dweller ZZZzzz carnmountyouknowitmakessense
  • Score: -15

11:59am Tue 8 Apr 14

Nowthatsworthknowing says...

carnmountyouknowitma
kessense
wrote:
Kim Gandy wrote:
carnmountyouknowitma


kessense
wrote:
Is the age, 84 rellavent ? bitten on the hand suggests she was inviting the dog to make an approach, was the other dog yappy? 6of one, half a dozen of the other.
Both had dogs, in a public domain, without the dogs, there would be zero story.
usual reaction, as expected.

Zzzzzzzzzzzz
Usual brain dead reply, from a redundant flat dweller ZZZzzz
Funny how Kim defends one breed and not another, bit like her political views
[quote][p][bold]carnmountyouknowitma kessense[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]carnmountyouknowitma kessense[/bold] wrote: Is the age, 84 rellavent ? bitten on the hand suggests she was inviting the dog to make an approach, was the other dog yappy? 6of one, half a dozen of the other. Both had dogs, in a public domain, without the dogs, there would be zero story.[/p][/quote]usual reaction, as expected. Zzzzzzzzzzzz[/p][/quote]Usual brain dead reply, from a redundant flat dweller ZZZzzz[/p][/quote]Funny how Kim defends one breed and not another, bit like her political views Nowthatsworthknowing
  • Score: 0

1:40pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Janefromsouthend says...

No matter how well trained your dog is or what breed it is, it should be on a lead in a public place. Irresponsible dog owners should receive large fines and be made to attend some kind of dog training class along with their pet. With some of these people if they had the dog put down they would just go and get another one.
No matter how well trained your dog is or what breed it is, it should be on a lead in a public place. Irresponsible dog owners should receive large fines and be made to attend some kind of dog training class along with their pet. With some of these people if they had the dog put down they would just go and get another one. Janefromsouthend
  • Score: 20

1:43pm Tue 8 Apr 14

emcee says...

carnmountyouknowitma
kessense
wrote:
Is the age, 84 rellavent ? bitten on the hand suggests she was inviting the dog to make an approach, was the other dog yappy? 6of one, half a dozen of the other.
Both had dogs, in a public domain, without the dogs, there would be zero story.
You really do talk a load of codswallop somtimes.
How about the lady put her hand out, instinctively, to protect herself.

As for the rest of your comment, being as your thought processes seem a little confused, I shall put it down to the fact that you are not keeping up with your doses of Omega 3.
[quote][p][bold]carnmountyouknowitma kessense[/bold] wrote: Is the age, 84 rellavent ? bitten on the hand suggests she was inviting the dog to make an approach, was the other dog yappy? 6of one, half a dozen of the other. Both had dogs, in a public domain, without the dogs, there would be zero story.[/p][/quote]You really do talk a load of codswallop somtimes. How about the lady put her hand out, instinctively, to protect herself. As for the rest of your comment, being as your thought processes seem a little confused, I shall put it down to the fact that you are not keeping up with your doses of Omega 3. emcee
  • Score: 24

1:45pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Wendy, Westcliff says...

I've asked the Council to make it a bye-law that dogs be kept on leads in our parks but they have said that people have a right to let their dogs run free. All good in the days of Timmy and the Famous Five but these days there are some horrible dogs out there.
I've asked the Council to make it a bye-law that dogs be kept on leads in our parks but they have said that people have a right to let their dogs run free. All good in the days of Timmy and the Famous Five but these days there are some horrible dogs out there. Wendy, Westcliff
  • Score: 10

2:59pm Tue 8 Apr 14

DogsMessInLeigh says...

How many owners have been handed a fine for dogs off leads..? Mmmm let me guess, is it NONE..? SBC should be upholding this by-law.
the signs are a waste of money, as are the fouling the footpath signs, no one can be ar$ed to go out and fine owners.

There was an interesting ITV two parter a few weeks back about dogs, it sort of changed my mind a bit that it is down to thick irresponsible owners that a dog goes bad, theres some very poor humans owning some dogs today, the lowest of the low which that program highlighted.
How many owners have been handed a fine for dogs off leads..? Mmmm let me guess, is it NONE..? SBC should be upholding this by-law. the signs are a waste of money, as are the fouling the footpath signs, no one can be ar$ed to go out and fine owners. There was an interesting ITV two parter a few weeks back about dogs, it sort of changed my mind a bit that it is down to thick irresponsible owners that a dog goes bad, theres some very poor humans owning some dogs today, the lowest of the low which that program highlighted. DogsMessInLeigh
  • Score: 15

3:36pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Nebs says...

Wendy, Westcliff wrote:
I've asked the Council to make it a bye-law that dogs be kept on leads in our parks but they have said that people have a right to let their dogs run free. All good in the days of Timmy and the Famous Five but these days there are some horrible dogs out there.
People also have a right to use the parks without fear of being bitten.

The law states that your dog must wear a collar and identity tag in a public place. The tag should show your name and address. Perhaps the dog warden could do a few checks.
[quote][p][bold]Wendy, Westcliff[/bold] wrote: I've asked the Council to make it a bye-law that dogs be kept on leads in our parks but they have said that people have a right to let their dogs run free. All good in the days of Timmy and the Famous Five but these days there are some horrible dogs out there.[/p][/quote]People also have a right to use the parks without fear of being bitten. The law states that your dog must wear a collar and identity tag in a public place. The tag should show your name and address. Perhaps the dog warden could do a few checks. Nebs
  • Score: 14

3:51pm Tue 8 Apr 14

DogsMessInLeigh says...

From SBC website regarding dogs.

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Other Complaints

We investigate dog related complaints and take a hard line against offenders. But as we have to witness the offence before we can serve a fixed penalty notice, it can be difficult for us to catch the culprit.

So when you make a complaint, we will ask you some questions. We then use this information to target offenders to improve the chances of catching those responsible. So when you need to make a dog related complaint, please help us to investigate your complaint by giving as much information as you can, such as:

the location of the incident
the dates or times when a dog incident occurs
details of the breed, colour and size of the dog
any information regarding the dog's owner.

If you can't give this information, it will greatly reduce our chances of catching offenders. In these circumstances your complaint will be dealt with as part of our routine patrols.
How to Report a Dog Related Incident

If you have witnessed a dog related incident, you can report it by contacting us.
Fixed Penalty Notices

Anyone found to be committing an offence will be served a Fixed Penalty Notice of £80 (reduced to £50 if you pay within 10 days).

If you do not pay your Fixed Penalty Notice, you may face a fine of up to £1000 or even prosecution.

For information on Dog Control Orders, please see our related downloads.

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So they take a hard line..!!! well thats if they are ever going to get out on the ground and catch people, don't think i have ever seen a dog warden out and about, theres dogs off leads everyday around the borough, they only got to go and see for themselves., which they don't or won't.
From SBC website regarding dogs. -------------------- ------------- Other Complaints We investigate dog related complaints and take a hard line against offenders. But as we have to witness the offence before we can serve a fixed penalty notice, it can be difficult for us to catch the culprit. So when you make a complaint, we will ask you some questions. We then use this information to target offenders to improve the chances of catching those responsible. So when you need to make a dog related complaint, please help us to investigate your complaint by giving as much information as you can, such as: the location of the incident the dates or times when a dog incident occurs details of the breed, colour and size of the dog any information regarding the dog's owner. If you can't give this information, it will greatly reduce our chances of catching offenders. In these circumstances your complaint will be dealt with as part of our routine patrols. How to Report a Dog Related Incident If you have witnessed a dog related incident, you can report it by contacting us. Fixed Penalty Notices Anyone found to be committing an offence will be served a Fixed Penalty Notice of £80 (reduced to £50 if you pay within 10 days). If you do not pay your Fixed Penalty Notice, you may face a fine of up to £1000 or even prosecution. For information on Dog Control Orders, please see our related downloads. -------------------- -------- So they take a hard line..!!! well thats if they are ever going to get out on the ground and catch people, don't think i have ever seen a dog warden out and about, theres dogs off leads everyday around the borough, they only got to go and see for themselves., which they don't or won't. DogsMessInLeigh
  • Score: 10

4:15pm Tue 8 Apr 14

FallenAngel66 says...

My personal opinion is these dogs should be banned in this country, everyday there is a story of a child or adult being killed or badly injured by these breed of dogs. But same old story no one cares that these dogs are trained to kill and are dangerous to the public.
My personal opinion is these dogs should be banned in this country, everyday there is a story of a child or adult being killed or badly injured by these breed of dogs. But same old story no one cares that these dogs are trained to kill and are dangerous to the public. FallenAngel66
  • Score: -10

4:57pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Mikkel1 says...

NO license will prevent attacks. It IS up to the owner to control their dogs in the first place and as already stated, kept on a lead in Public areas.

My wife and sadly had to have our dog put to sleep a matter of weeks ago, following a stroke and organ failure, but will be getting another in due course. We will be rehoming one, that has to be friendly and get on with children and other dogs. Like our last one, it will NEVER be out without a collar and lead on first.
NO license will prevent attacks. It IS up to the owner to control their dogs in the first place and as already stated, kept on a lead in Public areas. My wife and sadly had to have our dog put to sleep a matter of weeks ago, following a stroke and organ failure, but will be getting another in due course. We will be rehoming one, that has to be friendly and get on with children and other dogs. Like our last one, it will NEVER be out without a collar and lead on first. Mikkel1
  • Score: 13

8:16pm Tue 8 Apr 14

tokyontroyzee says...

carnmountyouknowitma
kessense
wrote:
Is the age, 84 rellavent ? bitten on the hand suggests she was inviting the dog to make an approach, was the other dog yappy? 6of one, half a dozen of the other.
Both had dogs, in a public domain, without the dogs, there would be zero story.
Knob head...
[quote][p][bold]carnmountyouknowitma kessense[/bold] wrote: Is the age, 84 rellavent ? bitten on the hand suggests she was inviting the dog to make an approach, was the other dog yappy? 6of one, half a dozen of the other. Both had dogs, in a public domain, without the dogs, there would be zero story.[/p][/quote]Knob head... tokyontroyzee
  • Score: -10

8:23pm Tue 8 Apr 14

tokyontroyzee says...

I am a dog lover, but lets be honest ! Staff should be destroyed, and all people on benifits should not have animals if they cannot look after them....there are hundreds of wannabe idiots with staffs on the street....so why does our local police not do anything....
lady had her young dog attacked in Shoeburyness a few weeks back by a blue staff.......the police did nothing.....dont want to upset two idiots on benifits......its broken britain ...
I am a dog lover, but lets be honest ! Staff should be destroyed, and all people on benifits should not have animals if they cannot look after them....there are hundreds of wannabe idiots with staffs on the street....so why does our local police not do anything.... lady had her young dog attacked in Shoeburyness a few weeks back by a blue staff.......the police did nothing.....dont want to upset two idiots on benifits......its broken britain ... tokyontroyzee
  • Score: -7

9:31pm Tue 8 Apr 14

moonlight1924 says...

I live on this estate and own a staff. I have been attacked by 4 dogs off their lead, subject to abuse from their owners and many times see other dogs running wild with no owner nearby. It's my job to make sure my dog is safely handed and I use head collar, neck collar and harness with double lead. I report to the office dogs off the lead and to security. nothing happens. I get balls thrown to my dog!!! people approaching without permission. good thing is he's friendly but not right. education and heavy fines should be already in place. I don't feel safe walking my dog and I do own the notorious devil dog!!!
I live on this estate and own a staff. I have been attacked by 4 dogs off their lead, subject to abuse from their owners and many times see other dogs running wild with no owner nearby. It's my job to make sure my dog is safely handed and I use head collar, neck collar and harness with double lead. I report to the office dogs off the lead and to security. nothing happens. I get balls thrown to my dog!!! people approaching without permission. good thing is he's friendly but not right. education and heavy fines should be already in place. I don't feel safe walking my dog and I do own the notorious devil dog!!! moonlight1924
  • Score: 9

11:08pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Lopsiex says...

First of all I hope this lady is okay and recovers from her injury..

I am an owner of a beautiful, friendly Staffordshire Bullterrior, my dog is well behaved and loves other people and children. Some people on here assume that only Benifits or 'Meat heads' as quoted own this breed to which I personally take offense, well assume wrong - as we are a working family with a young child. Where I live there are lots of Staffordshire Bullterriors and a lot are actually owned by mature people that love and care and ensure the safety of there dog to them and others.
I am all for dogs being put down if they harm/kill someone but please..please stop assuming worst of all Staffs. I have ensured mine is micro chipped, has a name tag, reg to a vet and even has her own passport, all registered to me.
Maybe next time you see one stop, talk to the owner ask to greet the dog and maybe you will see the other side that does not get mentioned in the press of them. The only harm mine would do to you is lick you to death as she thinks everyone loves her, prob whilst rolling on her back smiling at you.
First of all I hope this lady is okay and recovers from her injury.. I am an owner of a beautiful, friendly Staffordshire Bullterrior, my dog is well behaved and loves other people and children. Some people on here assume that only Benifits or 'Meat heads' as quoted own this breed to which I personally take offense, well assume wrong - as we are a working family with a young child. Where I live there are lots of Staffordshire Bullterriors and a lot are actually owned by mature people that love and care and ensure the safety of there dog to them and others. I am all for dogs being put down if they harm/kill someone but please..please stop assuming worst of all Staffs. I have ensured mine is micro chipped, has a name tag, reg to a vet and even has her own passport, all registered to me. Maybe next time you see one stop, talk to the owner ask to greet the dog and maybe you will see the other side that does not get mentioned in the press of them. The only harm mine would do to you is lick you to death as she thinks everyone loves her, prob whilst rolling on her back smiling at you. Lopsiex
  • Score: -3

1:38am Wed 9 Apr 14

emcee says...

moonlight1924 wrote:
I live on this estate and own a staff. I have been attacked by 4 dogs off their lead, subject to abuse from their owners and many times see other dogs running wild with no owner nearby. It's my job to make sure my dog is safely handed and I use head collar, neck collar and harness with double lead. I report to the office dogs off the lead and to security. nothing happens. I get balls thrown to my dog!!! people approaching without permission. good thing is he's friendly but not right. education and heavy fines should be already in place. I don't feel safe walking my dog and I do own the notorious devil dog!!!
All very commendable but in trying to be the responsible dog owner, using harness and double lead, why have you not gone that little bit further and muzzle your dog when out in public. Dogs are always "friendly", in the owners opinion, and your dog may have general good temperament but all dogs have the potential to bite, wether through fear, aggression or otherwise. At least, if your dog is muzzled it will not be any danger to the people, to whom you refer, thato approach your dog uninvited.

I do agree, however, that not only do the owners have a responsibility to keep their dogs from causing a nuisance and/or harm but the council/authorities also have a responsibility to ensure the public are safe from any potential harm. However, it seems that the council and other authorites (police etc) are absolutely pathetic when it comes actioning these responsibilities with regards to "out of control" dogs.
[quote][p][bold]moonlight1924[/bold] wrote: I live on this estate and own a staff. I have been attacked by 4 dogs off their lead, subject to abuse from their owners and many times see other dogs running wild with no owner nearby. It's my job to make sure my dog is safely handed and I use head collar, neck collar and harness with double lead. I report to the office dogs off the lead and to security. nothing happens. I get balls thrown to my dog!!! people approaching without permission. good thing is he's friendly but not right. education and heavy fines should be already in place. I don't feel safe walking my dog and I do own the notorious devil dog!!![/p][/quote]All very commendable but in trying to be the responsible dog owner, using harness and double lead, why have you not gone that little bit further and muzzle your dog when out in public. Dogs are always "friendly", in the owners opinion, and your dog may have general good temperament but all dogs have the potential to bite, wether through fear, aggression or otherwise. At least, if your dog is muzzled it will not be any danger to the people, to whom you refer, thato approach your dog uninvited. I do agree, however, that not only do the owners have a responsibility to keep their dogs from causing a nuisance and/or harm but the council/authorities also have a responsibility to ensure the public are safe from any potential harm. However, it seems that the council and other authorites (police etc) are absolutely pathetic when it comes actioning these responsibilities with regards to "out of control" dogs. emcee
  • Score: 12

9:24am Wed 9 Apr 14

openspace says...

Middle finger to the police wrote:
Kim Gandy wrote:
What on earth is a dog like that doing loose anyway? Obviously owned by some meat head thug if they are prepared to let it run loose and be a danger to others.

The dog licence needs to be reintroduced. It was scrapped years ago but if it was brought back, bad owners could be prosecuted.

If people can't be responsible about their pets they shouldn't be allowed to have them.
Not my problem if my dog kills someone. Blame it on the dog, not me.
It might be your problem if your dog killed a child in your family or of someone you knew, can't believe any one would post a stupid comment like this, what an idiot.
[quote][p][bold]Middle finger to the police[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: What on earth is a dog like that doing loose anyway? Obviously owned by some meat head thug if they are prepared to let it run loose and be a danger to others. The dog licence needs to be reintroduced. It was scrapped years ago but if it was brought back, bad owners could be prosecuted. If people can't be responsible about their pets they shouldn't be allowed to have them.[/p][/quote]Not my problem if my dog kills someone. Blame it on the dog, not me.[/p][/quote]It might be your problem if your dog killed a child in your family or of someone you knew, can't believe any one would post a stupid comment like this, what an idiot. openspace
  • Score: 6

3:17pm Wed 9 Apr 14

Nebs says...

Lopsiex wrote:
First of all I hope this lady is okay and recovers from her injury..

I am an owner of a beautiful, friendly Staffordshire Bullterrior, my dog is well behaved and loves other people and children. Some people on here assume that only Benifits or 'Meat heads' as quoted own this breed to which I personally take offense, well assume wrong - as we are a working family with a young child. Where I live there are lots of Staffordshire Bullterriors and a lot are actually owned by mature people that love and care and ensure the safety of there dog to them and others.
I am all for dogs being put down if they harm/kill someone but please..please stop assuming worst of all Staffs. I have ensured mine is micro chipped, has a name tag, reg to a vet and even has her own passport, all registered to me.
Maybe next time you see one stop, talk to the owner ask to greet the dog and maybe you will see the other side that does not get mentioned in the press of them. The only harm mine would do to you is lick you to death as she thinks everyone loves her, prob whilst rolling on her back smiling at you.
Next time I see one I will do what I always do, cross the road, thanks for the offer but no thanks.
[quote][p][bold]Lopsiex[/bold] wrote: First of all I hope this lady is okay and recovers from her injury.. I am an owner of a beautiful, friendly Staffordshire Bullterrior, my dog is well behaved and loves other people and children. Some people on here assume that only Benifits or 'Meat heads' as quoted own this breed to which I personally take offense, well assume wrong - as we are a working family with a young child. Where I live there are lots of Staffordshire Bullterriors and a lot are actually owned by mature people that love and care and ensure the safety of there dog to them and others. I am all for dogs being put down if they harm/kill someone but please..please stop assuming worst of all Staffs. I have ensured mine is micro chipped, has a name tag, reg to a vet and even has her own passport, all registered to me. Maybe next time you see one stop, talk to the owner ask to greet the dog and maybe you will see the other side that does not get mentioned in the press of them. The only harm mine would do to you is lick you to death as she thinks everyone loves her, prob whilst rolling on her back smiling at you.[/p][/quote]Next time I see one I will do what I always do, cross the road, thanks for the offer but no thanks. Nebs
  • Score: -4

4:41pm Wed 9 Apr 14

DogsMessInLeigh says...

these dogs have been adopted by some rough looking citizens...why..? because you can get them for next to nothing(or free when their Bruvs **** has pups) and then you can look da nutz walking down the road innit,
yes yes yes i know its down to bad owners, but deep down these are still bad dogs.
these dogs have been adopted by some rough looking citizens...why..? because you can get them for next to nothing(or free when their Bruvs **** has pups) and then you can look da nutz walking down the road innit, yes yes yes i know its down to bad owners, but deep down these are still bad dogs. DogsMessInLeigh
  • Score: -1

7:10pm Wed 9 Apr 14

DogsMessInLeigh says...

bitc h is censored, good one, luckily this isn't a Dog breeders forum.
bitc h is censored, good one, luckily this isn't a Dog breeders forum. DogsMessInLeigh
  • Score: 0

7:35am Thu 10 Apr 14

Nowthatsworthknowing says...

carnmountyouknowitma
kessense
wrote:
Is the age, 84 rellavent ? bitten on the hand suggests she was inviting the dog to make an approach, was the other dog yappy? 6of one, half a dozen of the other.
Both had dogs, in a public domain, without the dogs, there would be zero story.
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[quote][p][bold]carnmountyouknowitma kessense[/bold] wrote: Is the age, 84 rellavent ? bitten on the hand suggests she was inviting the dog to make an approach, was the other dog yappy? 6of one, half a dozen of the other. Both had dogs, in a public domain, without the dogs, there would be zero story.[/p][/quote]. Nowthatsworthknowing
  • Score: 0

10:08am Fri 11 Apr 14

profondo asbo says...

Nowthatsworthknowing wrote:
carnmountyouknowitma

kessense
wrote:
Is the age, 84 rellavent ? bitten on the hand suggests she was inviting the dog to make an approach, was the other dog yappy? 6of one, half a dozen of the other.
Both had dogs, in a public domain, without the dogs, there would be zero story.
.
tweedledumb and tweedledumber
[quote][p][bold]Nowthatsworthknowing[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]carnmountyouknowitma kessense[/bold] wrote: Is the age, 84 rellavent ? bitten on the hand suggests she was inviting the dog to make an approach, was the other dog yappy? 6of one, half a dozen of the other. Both had dogs, in a public domain, without the dogs, there would be zero story.[/p][/quote].[/p][/quote]tweedledumb and tweedledumber profondo asbo
  • Score: 2

2:21pm Fri 11 Apr 14

stopmoaning1 says...

tokyontroyzee wrote:
I am a dog lover, but lets be honest ! Staff should be destroyed, and all people on benifits should not have animals if they cannot look after them....there are hundreds of wannabe idiots with staffs on the street....so why does our local police not do anything....
lady had her young dog attacked in Shoeburyness a few weeks back by a blue staff.......the police did nothing.....dont want to upset two idiots on benifits......its broken britain ...
A wannabe idiot with a staff on the street is not a criminal offence
A dog attacking another dog is not a criminal offence, which would be why the police did nothing.
[quote][p][bold]tokyontroyzee[/bold] wrote: I am a dog lover, but lets be honest ! Staff should be destroyed, and all people on benifits should not have animals if they cannot look after them....there are hundreds of wannabe idiots with staffs on the street....so why does our local police not do anything.... lady had her young dog attacked in Shoeburyness a few weeks back by a blue staff.......the police did nothing.....dont want to upset two idiots on benifits......its broken britain ...[/p][/quote]A wannabe idiot with a staff on the street is not a criminal offence A dog attacking another dog is not a criminal offence, which would be why the police did nothing. stopmoaning1
  • Score: 8

4:06pm Fri 11 Apr 14

emcee says...

stopmoaning1 wrote:
tokyontroyzee wrote:
I am a dog lover, but lets be honest ! Staff should be destroyed, and all people on benifits should not have animals if they cannot look after them....there are hundreds of wannabe idiots with staffs on the street....so why does our local police not do anything....
lady had her young dog attacked in Shoeburyness a few weeks back by a blue staff.......the police did nothing.....dont want to upset two idiots on benifits......its broken britain ...
A wannabe idiot with a staff on the street is not a criminal offence
A dog attacking another dog is not a criminal offence, which would be why the police did nothing.
It is an offence if the dog is "dangerously out of control". A dog which attacks another dog is definately out of control and could, potentially, attack a person making it dangerous. However, the police choose to ignore this.
[quote][p][bold]stopmoaning1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tokyontroyzee[/bold] wrote: I am a dog lover, but lets be honest ! Staff should be destroyed, and all people on benifits should not have animals if they cannot look after them....there are hundreds of wannabe idiots with staffs on the street....so why does our local police not do anything.... lady had her young dog attacked in Shoeburyness a few weeks back by a blue staff.......the police did nothing.....dont want to upset two idiots on benifits......its broken britain ...[/p][/quote]A wannabe idiot with a staff on the street is not a criminal offence A dog attacking another dog is not a criminal offence, which would be why the police did nothing.[/p][/quote]It is an offence if the dog is "dangerously out of control". A dog which attacks another dog is definately out of control and could, potentially, attack a person making it dangerous. However, the police choose to ignore this. emcee
  • Score: 0

5:14pm Sat 12 Apr 14

stopmoaning1 says...

emcee wrote:
stopmoaning1 wrote:
tokyontroyzee wrote:
I am a dog lover, but lets be honest ! Staff should be destroyed, and all people on benifits should not have animals if they cannot look after them....there are hundreds of wannabe idiots with staffs on the street....so why does our local police not do anything....
lady had her young dog attacked in Shoeburyness a few weeks back by a blue staff.......the police did nothing.....dont want to upset two idiots on benifits......its broken britain ...
A wannabe idiot with a staff on the street is not a criminal offence
A dog attacking another dog is not a criminal offence, which would be why the police did nothing.
It is an offence if the dog is "dangerously out of control". A dog which attacks another dog is definately out of control and could, potentially, attack a person making it dangerous. However, the police choose to ignore this.
As you have brought up the dangerous dogs act, it would have been wise to have read/understood it. The act legislates for a dog attacking a person and NOT another dog. However much you (and I in fact) think that's odd, it's the law. So in relation to the above comment, that's why the police 'did nothing'

Now, the Echo story relates to a dog attacking a person. This WILL fall into the dangerous dog legislation. However, the story doesn't say if the lady who was bitten reported it to the police. It reads as if she reported it to her daughter who in turn reported it to the local rag. If that's case, again, that's why the police 'did nothing'
[quote][p][bold]emcee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stopmoaning1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tokyontroyzee[/bold] wrote: I am a dog lover, but lets be honest ! Staff should be destroyed, and all people on benifits should not have animals if they cannot look after them....there are hundreds of wannabe idiots with staffs on the street....so why does our local police not do anything.... lady had her young dog attacked in Shoeburyness a few weeks back by a blue staff.......the police did nothing.....dont want to upset two idiots on benifits......its broken britain ...[/p][/quote]A wannabe idiot with a staff on the street is not a criminal offence A dog attacking another dog is not a criminal offence, which would be why the police did nothing.[/p][/quote]It is an offence if the dog is "dangerously out of control". A dog which attacks another dog is definately out of control and could, potentially, attack a person making it dangerous. However, the police choose to ignore this.[/p][/quote]As you have brought up the dangerous dogs act, it would have been wise to have read/understood it. The act legislates for a dog attacking a person and NOT another dog. However much you (and I in fact) think that's odd, it's the law. So in relation to the above comment, that's why the police 'did nothing' Now, the Echo story relates to a dog attacking a person. This WILL fall into the dangerous dog legislation. However, the story doesn't say if the lady who was bitten reported it to the police. It reads as if she reported it to her daughter who in turn reported it to the local rag. If that's case, again, that's why the police 'did nothing' stopmoaning1
  • Score: 5

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