You can't tip your rubbish in here, mate! Essex County Council bans Southend residents using their tips

Tony Cox

Tony Cox

First published in Southend
Last updated
by , Senior reporter

A RUBBISH row has broken out after Essex County Council banned people from outside the area using its tips.

County Hall bosses issued the ban after claiming they had seen a big increase of people from outside the area, such as Southend Council residents, using their tips.

The new ban has been imposed after Southend Council and Essex failed to reach an agreement that could have seen residents in either area dumping rubbish at any tip across south Essex.

The consequences of failing to reach a deal will also mean that Wakering residents will no longer be able to use Southend Council tip at Stock Road and will instead have to travel nine miles to the nearest Essex County Council tip in Rayleigh.

Richard Kirton, of the Wakering and District Heritage Group, said: “It seems petty and ridiculous and I’m concerned that we’ll see an increase in dumping again like we had a few years ago.”

Tony Porter, chairman of Great Wakering Parish Council, said: “It’s going to cost a lot of people a lot of money to go to the dump. It’s a waste of resources including petrol.”

Tony Cox, Southend Council’s cabinet member for waste, said that the councils set up an agreement about a decade ago whereby some Wakering residents could dispose of waste at Stock Road, Southend, and the county council would cover the cost.

Mr Cox said Essex County Council asked him to make a joint arrangement where residents from both authorities could use the other waste sites but it made no financial sense.

He said: “There would be more Essex residents putting waste into Southend so we would be subject to more landfill charges. The bill we gave back to Essex County Council just covered the cost of disposal.

“We’ve never encouraged Southend residents to use Essex County Council sites. Essex County Council should have been advising them to go to Leigh rather than letting them in.”

Southend Council is in the process of contacting Wakering residents to let them know that they will no longer be able to use Stock Road, from the beginning of April.

The arrangement saw Essex pay Southend £20,000 to £30,000 a year for the Wakering users.

An Essex County Council spokesman said: “It has now been necessary to implement changes and direct current users from the Southend area to one of the two facilities provided for them by Southend Council, as there is no method available for the county council to recover the additional cost to the ECC taxpayer.

“This change in approach also means it is no longer deemed necessary for Essex County Council to continue with funding access to the Southend, Stock Road, facility.”

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1:16pm Thu 6 Mar 14

Keptquiettillnow says...

Hopefully be shorter ques of cars waiting to get into the rubbish tip now it will be Southend people only.
Hopefully be shorter ques of cars waiting to get into the rubbish tip now it will be Southend people only. Keptquiettillnow
  • Score: -4

1:18pm Thu 6 Mar 14

pancake2 says...

Its like reading about a group of kids in a playground!
Its like reading about a group of kids in a playground! pancake2
  • Score: 35

1:46pm Thu 6 Mar 14

Howard Cháse says...

Use it all to build the seawall......
Use it all to build the seawall...... Howard Cháse
  • Score: 3

1:50pm Thu 6 Mar 14

Mattster says...

This is a smokescreen. ECC want to *close* most or all of the recycling centres citing reduced usage, this is what its about, they want to gerrymander the figures to support their case.
This is a smokescreen. ECC want to *close* most or all of the recycling centres citing reduced usage, this is what its about, they want to gerrymander the figures to support their case. Mattster
  • Score: 10

2:06pm Thu 6 Mar 14

supermadmax says...

Credit where it is due, he has actually lost a little weight.
Credit where it is due, he has actually lost a little weight. supermadmax
  • Score: 22

2:11pm Thu 6 Mar 14

QuestionTime says...

Mattster wrote:
This is a smokescreen. ECC want to *close* most or all of the recycling centres citing reduced usage, this is what its about, they want to gerrymander the figures to support their case.
I've also heard this rumour, apparently ECC are looking to open a new depot in Basildon and will be closing both Rochford and Southend sites leaving the roads even more clogged with traffic descending on Basildon. Be aware and make your concerns known now rather than after the event!
[quote][p][bold]Mattster[/bold] wrote: This is a smokescreen. ECC want to *close* most or all of the recycling centres citing reduced usage, this is what its about, they want to gerrymander the figures to support their case.[/p][/quote]I've also heard this rumour, apparently ECC are looking to open a new depot in Basildon and will be closing both Rochford and Southend sites leaving the roads even more clogged with traffic descending on Basildon. Be aware and make your concerns known now rather than after the event! QuestionTime
  • Score: 16

2:21pm Thu 6 Mar 14

Mattster says...

QuestionTime wrote:
Mattster wrote:
This is a smokescreen. ECC want to *close* most or all of the recycling centres citing reduced usage, this is what its about, they want to gerrymander the figures to support their case.
I've also heard this rumour, apparently ECC are looking to open a new depot in Basildon and will be closing both Rochford and Southend sites leaving the roads even more clogged with traffic descending on Basildon. Be aware and make your concerns known now rather than after the event!
There is a survey form on the ECC website, fill it in and show that you use your local RC.
[quote][p][bold]QuestionTime[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mattster[/bold] wrote: This is a smokescreen. ECC want to *close* most or all of the recycling centres citing reduced usage, this is what its about, they want to gerrymander the figures to support their case.[/p][/quote]I've also heard this rumour, apparently ECC are looking to open a new depot in Basildon and will be closing both Rochford and Southend sites leaving the roads even more clogged with traffic descending on Basildon. Be aware and make your concerns known now rather than after the event![/p][/quote]There is a survey form on the ECC website, fill it in and show that you use your local RC. Mattster
  • Score: 4

3:01pm Thu 6 Mar 14

GrumpyofLeigh says...

"No method available"...you'd think this was a dispute between Gazprom and Starbucks. If two sets of public officials (oh the joy of living in a unitary district) cannot come to an agreement in shifting public money (ie mine) around for the greater good perhaps they should stand aside for people who possess an ounce of pragmatism.
"No method available"...you'd think this was a dispute between Gazprom and Starbucks. If two sets of public officials (oh the joy of living in a unitary district) cannot come to an agreement in shifting public money (ie mine) around for the greater good perhaps they should stand aside for people who possess an ounce of pragmatism. GrumpyofLeigh
  • Score: 14

3:08pm Thu 6 Mar 14

stopmoaning1 says...

Er, thanks Mr Weinfass 'Senior Reporter' you told the same story last Friday. Do you think your readers are goldfish and forget what you reported less than a week ago, or are you just a lazy journalist?

Southend residents banned from using Essex recycling centres

. 5:59pm Friday 28th February 2014 in News By Ian Weinfass, Senior reporter
Er, thanks Mr Weinfass 'Senior Reporter' you told the same story last Friday. Do you think your readers are goldfish and forget what you reported less than a week ago, or are you just a lazy journalist? Southend residents banned from using Essex recycling centres . 5:59pm Friday 28th February 2014 in News By Ian Weinfass, Senior reporter stopmoaning1
  • Score: 2

3:13pm Thu 6 Mar 14

mr.happy says...

If all Southend residents were to be stopped from using the County Coucil tips then how much would Southend be saving? Maybe Southend is trying to cause divisions within the local area, in the hope that one day they'll be able to take over the Wakering area? NO CHANCE!
If all Southend residents were to be stopped from using the County Coucil tips then how much would Southend be saving? Maybe Southend is trying to cause divisions within the local area, in the hope that one day they'll be able to take over the Wakering area? NO CHANCE! mr.happy
  • Score: 16

4:41pm Thu 6 Mar 14

Royr says...

Mattster wrote:
QuestionTime wrote:
Mattster wrote:
This is a smokescreen. ECC want to *close* most or all of the recycling centres citing reduced usage, this is what its about, they want to gerrymander the figures to support their case.
I've also heard this rumour, apparently ECC are looking to open a new depot in Basildon and will be closing both Rochford and Southend sites leaving the roads even more clogged with traffic descending on Basildon. Be aware and make your concerns known now rather than after the event!
There is a survey form on the ECC website, fill it in and show that you use your local RC.
Here's a link to the ECC survey:
http://surveys.essex
insight.org.uk/TakeS
urvey.aspx?PageNumbe
r=1&SurveyID=98L35n2
&Preview=true
[quote][p][bold]Mattster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]QuestionTime[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mattster[/bold] wrote: This is a smokescreen. ECC want to *close* most or all of the recycling centres citing reduced usage, this is what its about, they want to gerrymander the figures to support their case.[/p][/quote]I've also heard this rumour, apparently ECC are looking to open a new depot in Basildon and will be closing both Rochford and Southend sites leaving the roads even more clogged with traffic descending on Basildon. Be aware and make your concerns known now rather than after the event![/p][/quote]There is a survey form on the ECC website, fill it in and show that you use your local RC.[/p][/quote]Here's a link to the ECC survey: http://surveys.essex insight.org.uk/TakeS urvey.aspx?PageNumbe r=1&SurveyID=98L35n2 &Preview=true Royr
  • Score: 2

5:14pm Thu 6 Mar 14

Bangemup says...

What a ridiculous state of affairs , surely the idea of having rubbish tips /recycling centres is so people can dispose of the items easily and quickly . The probable scenario now will be that some folk will just dump he stuff in a hedgerow and go home . I know I might be tempted and so might you !
What a ridiculous state of affairs , surely the idea of having rubbish tips /recycling centres is so people can dispose of the items easily and quickly . The probable scenario now will be that some folk will just dump he stuff in a hedgerow and go home . I know I might be tempted and so might you ! Bangemup
  • Score: 9

6:03pm Thu 6 Mar 14

Living the La Vida Legra says...

mr.happy wrote:
If all Southend residents were to be stopped from using the County Coucil tips then how much would Southend be saving? Maybe Southend is trying to cause divisions within the local area, in the hope that one day they'll be able to take over the Wakering area? NO CHANCE!
Oh please god No No No
[quote][p][bold]mr.happy[/bold] wrote: If all Southend residents were to be stopped from using the County Coucil tips then how much would Southend be saving? Maybe Southend is trying to cause divisions within the local area, in the hope that one day they'll be able to take over the Wakering area? NO CHANCE![/p][/quote]Oh please god No No No Living the La Vida Legra
  • Score: 2

7:48am Fri 7 Mar 14

Howard Cháse says...

Bake it into a pie and pour on some gravy. Council soon dispose of it then....
Bake it into a pie and pour on some gravy. Council soon dispose of it then.... Howard Cháse
  • Score: 3

1:27pm Fri 7 Mar 14

the citizen says...

All together now......" You can't put your muck in our dustbin, our dustbin, our dustbin. You can't put your muck in our dustbin...our dustbin's full!"
All together now......" You can't put your muck in our dustbin, our dustbin, our dustbin. You can't put your muck in our dustbin...our dustbin's full!" the citizen
  • Score: 1

2:32pm Fri 7 Mar 14

carnmountyouknowitmakessense says...

Canvey is quite a place, my dogs like going down on the beach and now this, lol.
Canvey is quite a place, my dogs like going down on the beach and now this, lol. carnmountyouknowitmakessense
  • Score: 0

11:30pm Fri 7 Mar 14

paulatepc says...

Bangemup wrote:
What a ridiculous state of affairs , surely the idea of having rubbish tips /recycling centres is so people can dispose of the items easily and quickly . The probable scenario now will be that some folk will just dump he stuff in a hedgerow and go home . I know I might be tempted and so might you !
Your right - people try to do the correct thing by recycling and disposing in the proper way, spending valuable time and fuel driving to recysling and disposal centres, yet these bureaucrats just cannot organize the basics.

They must see that the charges they are talking about pale into insignificance compare with costs of clearing up after illegal dumping.

Cost allocation between Essex CC and Southend is only "funny money" on an account sheet anyway - it all comes from the taxpayer. Even the Landfill tax goes to back to the Government. Make everything Essex CC if you live in Essex.
[quote][p][bold]Bangemup[/bold] wrote: What a ridiculous state of affairs , surely the idea of having rubbish tips /recycling centres is so people can dispose of the items easily and quickly . The probable scenario now will be that some folk will just dump he stuff in a hedgerow and go home . I know I might be tempted and so might you ![/p][/quote]Your right - people try to do the correct thing by recycling and disposing in the proper way, spending valuable time and fuel driving to recysling and disposal centres, yet these bureaucrats just cannot organize the basics. They must see that the charges they are talking about pale into insignificance compare with costs of clearing up after illegal dumping. Cost allocation between Essex CC and Southend is only "funny money" on an account sheet anyway - it all comes from the taxpayer. Even the Landfill tax goes to back to the Government. Make everything Essex CC if you live in Essex. paulatepc
  • Score: 3

2:22am Sat 8 Mar 14

rude boy says...

More Flytipping
More Flytipping rude boy
  • Score: 2

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