Oops! Council task force has to return the sand it shifted

Southend Standard: Oops! Council task force has to return the sand it shifted Oops! Council task force has to return the sand it shifted

COUNCIL contractors had to shift sand back to the west of Shoebury Common beach after moving it by mistake.

Southend Council admitted workmen incorrectly moved the material from the vulnerable west end of the beach to the Ness Road slipway.

The mistake was spotted by Peter Lovett and Ray Bailey, members of the Friends of Shoebury Common, who feared it could lead to bad erosion at the west end of the beach.

Mr Lovett of Leitrim Avenue, Shoebury, said: “After the storm, I notified the council the revetments, pilings and foundations were exposed at the west end.

The sand is reducing on quite a large basis from the sand drift, which is always west to east, and they really were in a bad state.

“We noticed diggers had turned up Monday morning and when we confronted a driver, he said he was moving sand from west to east.

“We told him this was wrong, but they continued. They moved a huge amount of sand incorrectly.”

Mr Bailey of Parkanaur Avenue, Thorpe Bay, said: “The workmen probably weren’t given proper instructions – there is no communication there. If they had left it that way, it would have left the west part even more vulnerable to erosion.”

Mr Lovett contacted Richard Atkins, Southend Council’s coastal defence engineer, and the workmen began rectifying the error.

Mr Lovett said he was pleased the sand was now going back, but wanted the council to bring in more sand to protect the coast.

He added: “The diggers are now moving the sand back, and taking even more sand from Ness Road slipway in the east back to the west. I congratulate the council, because it has made a good job with what it has done.

“It is vital a complete beach recharge is provided. Replenishing the sand will improve sea defences by reducing wave pressure and protecting the sea wall and foundations.”

Mr Bailey said: “Instead of shifting the sand around, they should be importing sand to build it up. Just recycling it isn’t solving anything.”

A council spokesman said: “A simple, honest mistake quickly rectified by the contractors has not had any significant effect on the work, which continues to schedule.”

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6:49am Fri 10 Jan 14

Displeased of Shoebury says...

Mistakes are made by all of us ,but why was Lowett not on site to supervise the work. Same old excuse get out of Civic Centre do your job you are paid for.
Mistakes are made by all of us ,but why was Lowett not on site to supervise the work. Same old excuse get out of Civic Centre do your job you are paid for. Displeased of Shoebury

7:32am Fri 10 Jan 14

DogsMessInLeigh says...

a scene from Laurel & Hardy springs to mind.
remember when they chopped those palm type trees down by the Victoria monument on the cliff top some years back, another c0ck up.
a scene from Laurel & Hardy springs to mind. remember when they chopped those palm type trees down by the Victoria monument on the cliff top some years back, another c0ck up. DogsMessInLeigh

7:33am Fri 10 Jan 14

Nowthatsworthknowing says...

Glad to see the chuckle Brothers, got it right this time, best stick to sand as signs seem beyond their ability to get right
Glad to see the chuckle Brothers, got it right this time, best stick to sand as signs seem beyond their ability to get right Nowthatsworthknowing

7:39am Fri 10 Jan 14

abd123 says...

Displeased of Shoebury wrote:
Mistakes are made by all of us ,but why was Lowett not on site to supervise the work. Same old excuse get out of Civic Centre do your job you are paid for.
Did you make a mistake asking why Lowett was not on site when he is just a member of the public. Did you mean why wasn't Atkins on site?
Have I made a mistake and misread if?
[quote][p][bold]Displeased of Shoebury[/bold] wrote: Mistakes are made by all of us ,but why was Lowett not on site to supervise the work. Same old excuse get out of Civic Centre do your job you are paid for.[/p][/quote]Did you make a mistake asking why Lowett was not on site when he is just a member of the public. Did you mean why wasn't Atkins on site? Have I made a mistake and misread if? abd123

7:45am Fri 10 Jan 14

DogsMessInLeigh says...

abd123 wrote:
Displeased of Shoebury wrote:
Mistakes are made by all of us ,but why was Lowett not on site to supervise the work. Same old excuse get out of Civic Centre do your job you are paid for.
Did you make a mistake asking why Lowett was not on site when he is just a member of the public. Did you mean why wasn't Atkins on site?
Have I made a mistake and misread if?
Lovett...its Lovett....yes we all make mistakes.
[quote][p][bold]abd123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Displeased of Shoebury[/bold] wrote: Mistakes are made by all of us ,but why was Lowett not on site to supervise the work. Same old excuse get out of Civic Centre do your job you are paid for.[/p][/quote]Did you make a mistake asking why Lowett was not on site when he is just a member of the public. Did you mean why wasn't Atkins on site? Have I made a mistake and misread if?[/p][/quote]Lovett...its Lovett....yes we all make mistakes. DogsMessInLeigh

7:49am Fri 10 Jan 14

Nowthatsworthknowing says...

Displeased of Shoebury wrote:
Mistakes are made by all of us ,but why was Lowett not on site to supervise the work. Same old excuse get out of Civic Centre do your job you are paid for.
He should be there at all, without a hard hat, tut tut, if this is what retirement is all about....mind you he may have told his missus he still has a job, to avoid her during the day, trouble is its winter now...
[quote][p][bold]Displeased of Shoebury[/bold] wrote: Mistakes are made by all of us ,but why was Lowett not on site to supervise the work. Same old excuse get out of Civic Centre do your job you are paid for.[/p][/quote]He should be there at all, without a hard hat, tut tut, if this is what retirement is all about....mind you he may have told his missus he still has a job, to avoid her during the day, trouble is its winter now... Nowthatsworthknowing

10:49am Fri 10 Jan 14

LastLaugh2 says...

If id been the digger driver Id love to bury the medlars
If id been the digger driver Id love to bury the medlars LastLaugh2

12:08pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Loosers says...

Slowest working sand-movers I've ever seen. Somebody should tell them to crack on and get that area of beach back open to the public.
Slowest working sand-movers I've ever seen. Somebody should tell them to crack on and get that area of beach back open to the public. Loosers

2:08pm Fri 10 Jan 14

CouldntThinkOfOne says...

Loosers wrote:
Slowest working sand-movers I've ever seen. Somebody should tell them to crack on and get that area of beach back open to the public.
Don't know about you but i'd be pretty cheesed off if i spent ages shifting all the sand one way only to be told it was wrong and had to to shift it all back again because of someone else's mistake
[quote][p][bold]Loosers[/bold] wrote: Slowest working sand-movers I've ever seen. Somebody should tell them to crack on and get that area of beach back open to the public.[/p][/quote]Don't know about you but i'd be pretty cheesed off if i spent ages shifting all the sand one way only to be told it was wrong and had to to shift it all back again because of someone else's mistake CouldntThinkOfOne

4:38pm Fri 10 Jan 14

jolllyboy says...

Outsourcing at its best. Agree that sand should be added not shifted. Agree why doesnt anyone just call on contractors when they are doing a job for the council. Well spotted mr.
Outsourcing at its best. Agree that sand should be added not shifted. Agree why doesnt anyone just call on contractors when they are doing a job for the council. Well spotted mr. jolllyboy

4:42pm Fri 10 Jan 14

jayman says...

from an earlier article

"A spokesman for Southend Council said: “No sand is being removed from Shoebury Common. It is simply being recycled from where it builds up back to where it was eroded from.”

Council leader Nigel Holdcroft said: “We are fortunate the storms and tides have not combined to cause a major breach to our defences but next time we might not be so fortunate.”

http://www.southends
tandard.co.uk/news/e
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ences_concern_as_cou
ncil_shifts_sand/

hmmmm!!!!
from an earlier article "A spokesman for Southend Council said: “No sand is being removed from Shoebury Common. It is simply being recycled from where it builds up back to where it was eroded from.” Council leader Nigel Holdcroft said: “We are fortunate the storms and tides have not combined to cause a major breach to our defences but next time we might not be so fortunate.” http://www.southends tandard.co.uk/news/e cho/10918383.Sea_def ences_concern_as_cou ncil_shifts_sand/ hmmmm!!!! jayman

11:29am Tue 14 Jan 14

woodystock says...

I heard that the man with the compass was off sick that day!
I heard that the man with the compass was off sick that day! woodystock

11:36am Tue 14 Jan 14

woodystock says...

jayman wrote:
from an earlier article

"A spokesman for Southend Council said: “No sand is being removed from Shoebury Common. It is simply being recycled from where it builds up back to where it was eroded from.”

Council leader Nigel Holdcroft said: “We are fortunate the storms and tides have not combined to cause a major breach to our defences but next time we might not be so fortunate.”

http://www.southends

tandard.co.uk/news/e

cho/10918383.Sea_def

ences_concern_as_cou

ncil_shifts_sand/

hmmmm!!!!
If the aim of your closing comment is to try and drive through the Shoebury Common "mud heap" flood defences then I think the fact that the sea defences were not breached at Shoebury during the recent storms proves they are adequate as they stand. The main problem was that the sewer drains had not been routinely cleaned which meant that the road flooded with rain water, not sea water. I rang Autism Anglia who sent a technician out who reported this to me whilst on site and said that he would arrange for them to be cleaned....has this happened to your knowledge? Is this something which the council might consider part of their remit to monitor? I ask because I know my father routinely contacted Anglian Water for years to get them to do it and now it seems the mantle has fallen to me since he passed away. :-)
[quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: from an earlier article "A spokesman for Southend Council said: “No sand is being removed from Shoebury Common. It is simply being recycled from where it builds up back to where it was eroded from.” Council leader Nigel Holdcroft said: “We are fortunate the storms and tides have not combined to cause a major breach to our defences but next time we might not be so fortunate.” http://www.southends tandard.co.uk/news/e cho/10918383.Sea_def ences_concern_as_cou ncil_shifts_sand/ hmmmm!!!![/p][/quote]If the aim of your closing comment is to try and drive through the Shoebury Common "mud heap" flood defences then I think the fact that the sea defences were not breached at Shoebury during the recent storms proves they are adequate as they stand. The main problem was that the sewer drains had not been routinely cleaned which meant that the road flooded with rain water, not sea water. I rang Autism Anglia who sent a technician out who reported this to me whilst on site and said that he would arrange for them to be cleaned....has this happened to your knowledge? Is this something which the council might consider part of their remit to monitor? I ask because I know my father routinely contacted Anglian Water for years to get them to do it and now it seems the mantle has fallen to me since he passed away. :-) woodystock

12:51pm Wed 15 Jan 14

jayman says...

woodystock wrote:
jayman wrote:
from an earlier article

"A spokesman for Southend Council said: “No sand is being removed from Shoebury Common. It is simply being recycled from where it builds up back to where it was eroded from.”

Council leader Nigel Holdcroft said: “We are fortunate the storms and tides have not combined to cause a major breach to our defences but next time we might not be so fortunate.”

http://www.southends


tandard.co.uk/news/e


cho/10918383.Sea_def


ences_concern_as_cou


ncil_shifts_sand/

hmmmm!!!!
If the aim of your closing comment is to try and drive through the Shoebury Common "mud heap" flood defences then I think the fact that the sea defences were not breached at Shoebury during the recent storms proves they are adequate as they stand. The main problem was that the sewer drains had not been routinely cleaned which meant that the road flooded with rain water, not sea water. I rang Autism Anglia who sent a technician out who reported this to me whilst on site and said that he would arrange for them to be cleaned....has this happened to your knowledge? Is this something which the council might consider part of their remit to monitor? I ask because I know my father routinely contacted Anglian Water for years to get them to do it and now it seems the mantle has fallen to me since he passed away. :-)
I am of the opinion that the only mistake that the council have made in moving this sand is that they where 'found out'.

The contractors where moving sand from areas that the council had instructed them to move it. Every time the echo quote an unnamed council 'spokesman' you can bet the shirt on your back that the issue is a hot potato that no one at the council wants to handle.

I'm sure the council had no intention of causing damage to property by moving the sand. I believe they would have pointed out in the local press as a loaded news story that "the sand is washing away from our beaches" which would have lead to the story "seawall approved for shoebury common"

we have become so distracted in modern day life we can no longer see the things around us that are being made to fail. We are no longer observing the principle of 'cause and effect'. councils, authorities and government are currently 'cooking up' so many things to fail either directly or indirectly. physically or institutionally..
[quote][p][bold]woodystock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: from an earlier article "A spokesman for Southend Council said: “No sand is being removed from Shoebury Common. It is simply being recycled from where it builds up back to where it was eroded from.” Council leader Nigel Holdcroft said: “We are fortunate the storms and tides have not combined to cause a major breach to our defences but next time we might not be so fortunate.” http://www.southends tandard.co.uk/news/e cho/10918383.Sea_def ences_concern_as_cou ncil_shifts_sand/ hmmmm!!!![/p][/quote]If the aim of your closing comment is to try and drive through the Shoebury Common "mud heap" flood defences then I think the fact that the sea defences were not breached at Shoebury during the recent storms proves they are adequate as they stand. The main problem was that the sewer drains had not been routinely cleaned which meant that the road flooded with rain water, not sea water. I rang Autism Anglia who sent a technician out who reported this to me whilst on site and said that he would arrange for them to be cleaned....has this happened to your knowledge? Is this something which the council might consider part of their remit to monitor? I ask because I know my father routinely contacted Anglian Water for years to get them to do it and now it seems the mantle has fallen to me since he passed away. :-)[/p][/quote]I am of the opinion that the only mistake that the council have made in moving this sand is that they where 'found out'. The contractors where moving sand from areas that the council had instructed them to move it. Every time the echo quote an unnamed council 'spokesman' you can bet the shirt on your back that the issue is a hot potato that no one at the council wants to handle. I'm sure the council had no intention of causing damage to property by moving the sand. I believe they would have pointed out in the local press as a loaded news story that "the sand is washing away from our beaches" which would have lead to the story "seawall approved for shoebury common" we have become so distracted in modern day life we can no longer see the things around us that are being made to fail. We are no longer observing the principle of 'cause and effect'. councils, authorities and government are currently 'cooking up' so many things to fail either directly or indirectly. physically or institutionally.. jayman

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