My £200 clamping fine...for £2.50 treat

Southend Standard: Patrick Gomes Patrick Gomes

A MAN who popped into a Chinese takeaway for a £2.50 spring roll ended up with a £200 bill after clampers pounced.

Patrick Gomes, 59, of Cumberland Drive, Laindon, was outraged when he left Good Food, at Station Gate, to find he had been caught by clampers.

He had parked in a bay by the side of the shops, but had not realised it was reserved for tenants of flats above.

He went into the takeaway to get a spring roll for his wife, but when he came out minutes later, he found his dark blue Citreon had been clamped by wardens from Parking Services.

He said: “I have lived in Laindon for 25 years and parked there loads of times before. I just parked in the first space available. You would think spaces by a row of shops would be for customers. It’s ridiculous.

“I ended up forking out £200 when all I wanted was a £2.50 spring roll. When I finally got home I told my wife, to make sure she savoured it.”

After ringing Parking Services’ head office, Mr Gomes was told its credit card machine was broken and he’d have to pay cash.

He went to the nearby cash machine and withdrew the £200 required to release his car.

Mr Gomes added: “If you pay by credit card, then there is a chance you could appeal and get your money back, but with cash there is no comeback.

“Luckily I had just been paid that day, but a lot of people would struggle to pay such a steep fine on the spot.”

A taxi driver who works for United and Station Cars, based at Station Gate, said previous warning signs about clamping had been vandalised, with replacement signs being put above eye-level.

The driver, who asked not to be named, said: “I know a lot of people have been caught out. The parking wardens are here very sporadically and sometimes we don’t see them for weeks at a time. It seems to be a case of bad luck.

“The release fee seems very excessive and unfair.”

A new law is due to come into force that will ban the clamping and towing of vehicles from private property, unless there is specific lawful authority.

The Protection of Freedom Act was passed by MPs in May, but the new rules do not come into force until October 1.

Parking Services was unable to comment.

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9:05am Mon 10 Sep 12

beyond the valley of the asbos says...

he drove to the takeaway for a £2.50 spring roll. i think the 4 letter word starts with 't' and ends with 't'
he drove to the takeaway for a £2.50 spring roll. i think the 4 letter word starts with 't' and ends with 't' beyond the valley of the asbos
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9:57am Mon 10 Sep 12

AndyBSG says...

TBH, there's plenty of loop holes to get out of paying.

First thing, it doesn't mention if it was a private clamping firm or one working on behalf of the council. If it was a private firm then he's been unlucky because on October the 1st it will become illegal for them to clamp or tow a vehicle.

Secondly, for them to be able to enforce a parking fine there are very strict legal requirements regarding signs, road markings etc. Signs have to be clearly visible, not faded, obscured, have to be within 5 meters of the parking bay, the parking bay has to be 1.62 meters wide(otherwise it's not within the legal minimum so thay can't fine you for parking in a bay that isn't legal in the first place).

If it's a private company then it's even easier to get out of because you can just contact the SIA who run clamping/parking and they'll do all the work of getting it overturned for you!

Of course, if there were plenty of signs and he just ignored them than it's his own fault.
TBH, there's plenty of loop holes to get out of paying. First thing, it doesn't mention if it was a private clamping firm or one working on behalf of the council. If it was a private firm then he's been unlucky because on October the 1st it will become illegal for them to clamp or tow a vehicle. Secondly, for them to be able to enforce a parking fine there are very strict legal requirements regarding signs, road markings etc. Signs have to be clearly visible, not faded, obscured, have to be within 5 meters of the parking bay, the parking bay has to be 1.62 meters wide(otherwise it's not within the legal minimum so thay can't fine you for parking in a bay that isn't legal in the first place). If it's a private company then it's even easier to get out of because you can just contact the SIA who run clamping/parking and they'll do all the work of getting it overturned for you! Of course, if there were plenty of signs and he just ignored them than it's his own fault. AndyBSG
  • Score: 0

10:00am Mon 10 Sep 12

EthanEdwards says...

LBS back in business under a new name? Didn't Boosey etc get jailed?
LBS back in business under a new name? Didn't Boosey etc get jailed? EthanEdwards
  • Score: 0

10:55am Mon 10 Sep 12

andy:) says...

Depending on the exact circumstances it may be woth starting legal action, many of these clamping companies do not fully abide by the law (aS LBS have previously shown).

Remember in any legal action to name both the clamping company AND the landowner as co-defendants, many clamping companies are notoriously bad at paying up even after court judgements go against them but it will be far easier to pursue the landowner.

Andy
Depending on the exact circumstances it may be woth starting legal action, many of these clamping companies do not fully abide by the law (aS LBS have previously shown). Remember in any legal action to name both the clamping company AND the landowner as co-defendants, many clamping companies are notoriously bad at paying up even after court judgements go against them but it will be far easier to pursue the landowner. Andy andy:)
  • Score: 3

11:08am Mon 10 Sep 12

Eric Whim says...

dark blue Citreon

Citroën
[qoute]dark blue Citreon [/quote] Citroën Eric Whim
  • Score: -4

11:31am Mon 10 Sep 12

SpaffSpiff84 says...

Aslong as you dont damage it you can take it off yourself, theres no reason at all why somebody should be forking out £200 to greedy clampers
Aslong as you dont damage it you can take it off yourself, theres no reason at all why somebody should be forking out £200 to greedy clampers SpaffSpiff84
  • Score: 1

12:26pm Mon 10 Sep 12

exBillericayDicky says...

AndyBSG wrote:
TBH, there's plenty of loop holes to get out of paying. First thing, it doesn't mention if it was a private clamping firm or one working on behalf of the council. If it was a private firm then he's been unlucky because on October the 1st it will become illegal for them to clamp or tow a vehicle. Secondly, for them to be able to enforce a parking fine there are very strict legal requirements regarding signs, road markings etc. Signs have to be clearly visible, not faded, obscured, have to be within 5 meters of the parking bay, the parking bay has to be 1.62 meters wide(otherwise it's not within the legal minimum so thay can't fine you for parking in a bay that isn't legal in the first place). If it's a private company then it's even easier to get out of because you can just contact the SIA who run clamping/parking and they'll do all the work of getting it overturned for you! Of course, if there were plenty of signs and he just ignored them than it's his own fault.
Yes, but be warned, the The Protection of Freedom Act, now allows companies to get your details direct from the DVLA, so while clamping has become illegal, the ability to evade other 'parking fines' has been decreased (previously Supermarkets, land owners etc haven't had the recourse through courts to collect their "fines")
[quote][p][bold]AndyBSG[/bold] wrote: TBH, there's plenty of loop holes to get out of paying. First thing, it doesn't mention if it was a private clamping firm or one working on behalf of the council. If it was a private firm then he's been unlucky because on October the 1st it will become illegal for them to clamp or tow a vehicle. Secondly, for them to be able to enforce a parking fine there are very strict legal requirements regarding signs, road markings etc. Signs have to be clearly visible, not faded, obscured, have to be within 5 meters of the parking bay, the parking bay has to be 1.62 meters wide(otherwise it's not within the legal minimum so thay can't fine you for parking in a bay that isn't legal in the first place). If it's a private company then it's even easier to get out of because you can just contact the SIA who run clamping/parking and they'll do all the work of getting it overturned for you! Of course, if there were plenty of signs and he just ignored them than it's his own fault.[/p][/quote]Yes, but be warned, the The Protection of Freedom Act, now allows companies to get your details direct from the DVLA, so while clamping has become illegal, the ability to evade other 'parking fines' has been decreased (previously Supermarkets, land owners etc haven't had the recourse through courts to collect their "fines") exBillericayDicky
  • Score: 1

3:12pm Mon 10 Sep 12

emcee says...

exBillericayDicky wrote:
AndyBSG wrote:
TBH, there's plenty of loop holes to get out of paying. First thing, it doesn't mention if it was a private clamping firm or one working on behalf of the council. If it was a private firm then he's been unlucky because on October the 1st it will become illegal for them to clamp or tow a vehicle. Secondly, for them to be able to enforce a parking fine there are very strict legal requirements regarding signs, road markings etc. Signs have to be clearly visible, not faded, obscured, have to be within 5 meters of the parking bay, the parking bay has to be 1.62 meters wide(otherwise it's not within the legal minimum so thay can't fine you for parking in a bay that isn't legal in the first place). If it's a private company then it's even easier to get out of because you can just contact the SIA who run clamping/parking and they'll do all the work of getting it overturned for you! Of course, if there were plenty of signs and he just ignored them than it's his own fault.
Yes, but be warned, the The Protection of Freedom Act, now allows companies to get your details direct from the DVLA, so while clamping has become illegal, the ability to evade other 'parking fines' has been decreased (previously Supermarkets, land owners etc haven't had the recourse through courts to collect their "fines")
Just because private parking enforcement companies can obtain your address does not mean they are entitled to charge you penalty fees. They only use your address to send a "speculative" demand for penalty fees. Even if they did try and take you to court they would only be able to claim proven loss of income under the Unfair Contract Terms Act 1977. Therefore, they would be unable to justify any claim beyond the original parking charge as this is the only loss they could possibly prove. I do not know of any private enforcement parking company which has taken a driver to court for non payment of penalty fees, let alone win their case.
This is why you should never, ever, correspond with private parking companies. Ignore all letters, no matter how threatening they are. There is absolutely nothing they can do about it.
[quote][p][bold]exBillericayDicky[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AndyBSG[/bold] wrote: TBH, there's plenty of loop holes to get out of paying. First thing, it doesn't mention if it was a private clamping firm or one working on behalf of the council. If it was a private firm then he's been unlucky because on October the 1st it will become illegal for them to clamp or tow a vehicle. Secondly, for them to be able to enforce a parking fine there are very strict legal requirements regarding signs, road markings etc. Signs have to be clearly visible, not faded, obscured, have to be within 5 meters of the parking bay, the parking bay has to be 1.62 meters wide(otherwise it's not within the legal minimum so thay can't fine you for parking in a bay that isn't legal in the first place). If it's a private company then it's even easier to get out of because you can just contact the SIA who run clamping/parking and they'll do all the work of getting it overturned for you! Of course, if there were plenty of signs and he just ignored them than it's his own fault.[/p][/quote]Yes, but be warned, the The Protection of Freedom Act, now allows companies to get your details direct from the DVLA, so while clamping has become illegal, the ability to evade other 'parking fines' has been decreased (previously Supermarkets, land owners etc haven't had the recourse through courts to collect their "fines")[/p][/quote]Just because private parking enforcement companies can obtain your address does not mean they are entitled to charge you penalty fees. They only use your address to send a "speculative" demand for penalty fees. Even if they did try and take you to court they would only be able to claim proven loss of income under the Unfair Contract Terms Act 1977. Therefore, they would be unable to justify any claim beyond the original parking charge as this is the only loss they could possibly prove. I do not know of any private enforcement parking company which has taken a driver to court for non payment of penalty fees, let alone win their case. This is why you should never, ever, correspond with private parking companies. Ignore all letters, no matter how threatening they are. There is absolutely nothing they can do about it. emcee
  • Score: -2

4:29pm Mon 10 Sep 12

Basildon_racer says...

An absolute disgusting piece of action from the clamping company. I bet there just people that were bullied at school like the police. Theres many loopholes to get out of situations like this, ive seen it all on youtube.
An absolute disgusting piece of action from the clamping company. I bet there just people that were bullied at school like the police. Theres many loopholes to get out of situations like this, ive seen it all on youtube. Basildon_racer
  • Score: -5

4:45pm Mon 10 Sep 12

AndyBSG says...

"Just because private parking enforcement companies can obtain your address does not mean they are entitled to charge you penalty fees"

Aye, you can just refuse to identify yourself as the driver.

When caught on a speed camera it's against the law to to refuse to name who was driving but in a private matter all you have to do is reply that you don't know who was driving and they can't do anything about it.
"Just because private parking enforcement companies can obtain your address does not mean they are entitled to charge you penalty fees" Aye, you can just refuse to identify yourself as the driver. When caught on a speed camera it's against the law to to refuse to name who was driving but in a private matter all you have to do is reply that you don't know who was driving and they can't do anything about it. AndyBSG
  • Score: -3

6:39pm Mon 10 Sep 12

Brunning999 says...

Simple solution don't park where you ate not sure.

Easy that!!!!!
Simple solution don't park where you ate not sure. Easy that!!!!! Brunning999
  • Score: -1

7:52pm Mon 10 Sep 12

Born & bread says...

Gutted!
Gutted! Born & bread
  • Score: 2

8:32pm Mon 10 Sep 12

andy:) says...

AndyBSG wrote:
"Just because private parking enforcement companies can obtain your address does not mean they are entitled to charge you penalty fees"

Aye, you can just refuse to identify yourself as the driver.

When caught on a speed camera it's against the law to to refuse to name who was driving but in a private matter all you have to do is reply that you don't know who was driving and they can't do anything about it.
Not quite as easyas that.

Whilst very dubious, clamping companies have taken people to court and won on occasion, appeals to higher courts are about 50/50 in clamper favour.

As for not identifying yourself as the driver, IF it was to goto court, this would not be a good option as the Judge would simply ask you, in civil cases there is no right to silence, the Judge would simply make a decision one way or another.

Anyway as the new law comes into force soon, this tpye of thing will hopefully come to an end.

Andy
[quote][p][bold]AndyBSG[/bold] wrote: "Just because private parking enforcement companies can obtain your address does not mean they are entitled to charge you penalty fees" Aye, you can just refuse to identify yourself as the driver. When caught on a speed camera it's against the law to to refuse to name who was driving but in a private matter all you have to do is reply that you don't know who was driving and they can't do anything about it.[/p][/quote]Not quite as easyas that. Whilst very dubious, clamping companies have taken people to court and won on occasion, appeals to higher courts are about 50/50 in clamper favour. As for not identifying yourself as the driver, IF it was to goto court, this would not be a good option as the Judge would simply ask you, in civil cases there is no right to silence, the Judge would simply make a decision one way or another. Anyway as the new law comes into force soon, this tpye of thing will hopefully come to an end. Andy andy:)
  • Score: -3

10:57pm Mon 10 Sep 12

peter11111 says...

The solution is very simple, don't park there and you won't get clamped. It must be hell for the local residents because people like this man who drive to a takeway for a £2.50 spring role park in their spaces. Man-up, pay the fine and don't park there, lesson learned. Unless of course you want to look like a whinger with your picture in the echo.
The solution is very simple, don't park there and you won't get clamped. It must be hell for the local residents because people like this man who drive to a takeway for a £2.50 spring role park in their spaces. Man-up, pay the fine and don't park there, lesson learned. Unless of course you want to look like a whinger with your picture in the echo. peter11111
  • Score: 3

6:01am Tue 11 Sep 12

exBillericayDicky says...

emcee wrote:
exBillericayDicky wrote:
AndyBSG wrote:
TBH, there's plenty of loop holes to get out of paying. First thing, it doesn't mention if it was a private clamping firm or one working on behalf of the council. If it was a private firm then he's been unlucky because on October the 1st it will become illegal for them to clamp or tow a vehicle. Secondly, for them to be able to enforce a parking fine there are very strict legal requirements regarding signs, road markings etc. Signs have to be clearly visible, not faded, obscured, have to be within 5 meters of the parking bay, the parking bay has to be 1.62 meters wide(otherwise it's not within the legal minimum so thay can't fine you for parking in a bay that isn't legal in the first place). If it's a private company then it's even easier to get out of because you can just contact the SIA who run clamping/parking and they'll do all the work of getting it overturned for you! Of course, if there were plenty of signs and he just ignored them than it's his own fault.
Yes, but be warned, the The Protection of Freedom Act, now allows companies to get your details direct from the DVLA, so while clamping has become illegal, the ability to evade other 'parking fines' has been decreased (previously Supermarkets, land owners etc haven't had the recourse through courts to collect their "fines")
Just because private parking enforcement companies can obtain your address does not mean they are entitled to charge you penalty fees. They only use your address to send a "speculative" demand for penalty fees. Even if they did try and take you to court they would only be able to claim proven loss of income under the Unfair Contract Terms Act 1977. Therefore, they would be unable to justify any claim beyond the original parking charge as this is the only loss they could possibly prove. I do not know of any private enforcement parking company which has taken a driver to court for non payment of penalty fees, let alone win their case.
This is why you should never, ever, correspond with private parking companies. Ignore all letters, no matter how threatening they are. There is absolutely nothing they can do about it.
The new law allows recourse through the courts to collect these speculative invoices. Where before should you have recived one, it could be binned as there was no legal standing on them. From October 1st, there is.

So the government gives us the banning of clamping, but takes by allowing the private parking company invoices a legal footing
[quote][p][bold]emcee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]exBillericayDicky[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AndyBSG[/bold] wrote: TBH, there's plenty of loop holes to get out of paying. First thing, it doesn't mention if it was a private clamping firm or one working on behalf of the council. If it was a private firm then he's been unlucky because on October the 1st it will become illegal for them to clamp or tow a vehicle. Secondly, for them to be able to enforce a parking fine there are very strict legal requirements regarding signs, road markings etc. Signs have to be clearly visible, not faded, obscured, have to be within 5 meters of the parking bay, the parking bay has to be 1.62 meters wide(otherwise it's not within the legal minimum so thay can't fine you for parking in a bay that isn't legal in the first place). If it's a private company then it's even easier to get out of because you can just contact the SIA who run clamping/parking and they'll do all the work of getting it overturned for you! Of course, if there were plenty of signs and he just ignored them than it's his own fault.[/p][/quote]Yes, but be warned, the The Protection of Freedom Act, now allows companies to get your details direct from the DVLA, so while clamping has become illegal, the ability to evade other 'parking fines' has been decreased (previously Supermarkets, land owners etc haven't had the recourse through courts to collect their "fines")[/p][/quote]Just because private parking enforcement companies can obtain your address does not mean they are entitled to charge you penalty fees. They only use your address to send a "speculative" demand for penalty fees. Even if they did try and take you to court they would only be able to claim proven loss of income under the Unfair Contract Terms Act 1977. Therefore, they would be unable to justify any claim beyond the original parking charge as this is the only loss they could possibly prove. I do not know of any private enforcement parking company which has taken a driver to court for non payment of penalty fees, let alone win their case. This is why you should never, ever, correspond with private parking companies. Ignore all letters, no matter how threatening they are. There is absolutely nothing they can do about it.[/p][/quote]The new law allows recourse through the courts to collect these speculative invoices. Where before should you have recived one, it could be binned as there was no legal standing on them. From October 1st, there is. So the government gives us the banning of clamping, but takes by allowing the private parking company invoices a legal footing exBillericayDicky
  • Score: 1

5:22pm Tue 11 Sep 12

EssexPerson says...

Firstly why is he driving just to pick up a £2.50 spring roll!!
Simple solution...think about where you are parking and don't park on private land or in a way that causes an obstruction.
If people acted with an ounce of respect to residents and land owners then these clamping firms wouldn't exist in the first place.
It's a shame the clamper's got greedy thereby forcing the government into making it illegal, as now inconsiderate drivers can park where ever they feel free.
Perhaps a better solution would have been a limit on the fee chargeable so there was still a deterrent without being extortionate.
Firstly why is he driving just to pick up a £2.50 spring roll!! Simple solution...think about where you are parking and don't park on private land or in a way that causes an obstruction. If people acted with an ounce of respect to residents and land owners then these clamping firms wouldn't exist in the first place. It's a shame the clamper's got greedy thereby forcing the government into making it illegal, as now inconsiderate drivers can park where ever they feel free. Perhaps a better solution would have been a limit on the fee chargeable so there was still a deterrent without being extortionate. EssexPerson
  • Score: 2

6:22pm Tue 11 Sep 12

v.randy says...

Does anyone know whether he bought one big spring roll or a bag of little ones.
It;s the little ones for me plus great for sharing with friends and family.
What does the forum think?
Does anyone know whether he bought one big spring roll or a bag of little ones. It;s the little ones for me plus great for sharing with friends and family. What does the forum think? v.randy
  • Score: 1

6:31pm Tue 11 Sep 12

emcee says...

exBillericayDicky wrote:
emcee wrote:
exBillericayDicky wrote:
AndyBSG wrote:
TBH, there's plenty of loop holes to get out of paying. First thing, it doesn't mention if it was a private clamping firm or one working on behalf of the council. If it was a private firm then he's been unlucky because on October the 1st it will become illegal for them to clamp or tow a vehicle. Secondly, for them to be able to enforce a parking fine there are very strict legal requirements regarding signs, road markings etc. Signs have to be clearly visible, not faded, obscured, have to be within 5 meters of the parking bay, the parking bay has to be 1.62 meters wide(otherwise it's not within the legal minimum so thay can't fine you for parking in a bay that isn't legal in the first place). If it's a private company then it's even easier to get out of because you can just contact the SIA who run clamping/parking and they'll do all the work of getting it overturned for you! Of course, if there were plenty of signs and he just ignored them than it's his own fault.
Yes, but be warned, the The Protection of Freedom Act, now allows companies to get your details direct from the DVLA, so while clamping has become illegal, the ability to evade other 'parking fines' has been decreased (previously Supermarkets, land owners etc haven't had the recourse through courts to collect their "fines")
Just because private parking enforcement companies can obtain your address does not mean they are entitled to charge you penalty fees. They only use your address to send a "speculative" demand for penalty fees. Even if they did try and take you to court they would only be able to claim proven loss of income under the Unfair Contract Terms Act 1977. Therefore, they would be unable to justify any claim beyond the original parking charge as this is the only loss they could possibly prove. I do not know of any private enforcement parking company which has taken a driver to court for non payment of penalty fees, let alone win their case.
This is why you should never, ever, correspond with private parking companies. Ignore all letters, no matter how threatening they are. There is absolutely nothing they can do about it.
The new law allows recourse through the courts to collect these speculative invoices. Where before should you have recived one, it could be binned as there was no legal standing on them. From October 1st, there is.

So the government gives us the banning of clamping, but takes by allowing the private parking company invoices a legal footing
The senders of these "speculative" demands have always been "allowed" to collect on them if they wished to take it to court and prove that the amount demanded was the amount in lost income.
The law only allows for companies to obtain your address via DVLA. These companies still have to prove loss of income in a court. However, as the only income they have lost is the price of a parking ticket, or part of in the case of an overstay, that is the maximum they can claim. They also have to show this loss occured because no other parking spaces were available to other cars.
This is why they will not take it to court and why you can still bin the letters.
[quote][p][bold]exBillericayDicky[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]emcee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]exBillericayDicky[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AndyBSG[/bold] wrote: TBH, there's plenty of loop holes to get out of paying. First thing, it doesn't mention if it was a private clamping firm or one working on behalf of the council. If it was a private firm then he's been unlucky because on October the 1st it will become illegal for them to clamp or tow a vehicle. Secondly, for them to be able to enforce a parking fine there are very strict legal requirements regarding signs, road markings etc. Signs have to be clearly visible, not faded, obscured, have to be within 5 meters of the parking bay, the parking bay has to be 1.62 meters wide(otherwise it's not within the legal minimum so thay can't fine you for parking in a bay that isn't legal in the first place). If it's a private company then it's even easier to get out of because you can just contact the SIA who run clamping/parking and they'll do all the work of getting it overturned for you! Of course, if there were plenty of signs and he just ignored them than it's his own fault.[/p][/quote]Yes, but be warned, the The Protection of Freedom Act, now allows companies to get your details direct from the DVLA, so while clamping has become illegal, the ability to evade other 'parking fines' has been decreased (previously Supermarkets, land owners etc haven't had the recourse through courts to collect their "fines")[/p][/quote]Just because private parking enforcement companies can obtain your address does not mean they are entitled to charge you penalty fees. They only use your address to send a "speculative" demand for penalty fees. Even if they did try and take you to court they would only be able to claim proven loss of income under the Unfair Contract Terms Act 1977. Therefore, they would be unable to justify any claim beyond the original parking charge as this is the only loss they could possibly prove. I do not know of any private enforcement parking company which has taken a driver to court for non payment of penalty fees, let alone win their case. This is why you should never, ever, correspond with private parking companies. Ignore all letters, no matter how threatening they are. There is absolutely nothing they can do about it.[/p][/quote]The new law allows recourse through the courts to collect these speculative invoices. Where before should you have recived one, it could be binned as there was no legal standing on them. From October 1st, there is. So the government gives us the banning of clamping, but takes by allowing the private parking company invoices a legal footing[/p][/quote]The senders of these "speculative" demands have always been "allowed" to collect on them if they wished to take it to court and prove that the amount demanded was the amount in lost income. The law only allows for companies to obtain your address via DVLA. These companies still have to prove loss of income in a court. However, as the only income they have lost is the price of a parking ticket, or part of in the case of an overstay, that is the maximum they can claim. They also have to show this loss occured because no other parking spaces were available to other cars. This is why they will not take it to court and why you can still bin the letters. emcee
  • Score: 0

8:43pm Tue 11 Sep 12

jolllyboy says...

I have been caught for fines in other towns where the signs are put way, way up the top of poles where you know they are put there just to catch people. They rely on no-one challenging it. He should take a photo of the notices position and get advice.
I have been caught for fines in other towns where the signs are put way, way up the top of poles where you know they are put there just to catch people. They rely on no-one challenging it. He should take a photo of the notices position and get advice. jolllyboy
  • Score: 0

12:09am Wed 12 Sep 12

Trainman says...

HOW did the clamping company PROVE he wasn't visiting a resident in the flats above? DID they knock on the doors and ask?
HOW did the clamping company PROVE he wasn't visiting a resident in the flats above? DID they knock on the doors and ask? Trainman
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2:23pm Wed 12 Sep 12

andy:) says...

A lot of people here are assuming that people who park there know they are not allowed, its been commented that the signs are not very visible and have at times been vandalised and removed, to be able to legally charge a removal fee the driver would have to enter a contract, this assumes he has read and agreed to the T&C's on the signs, if he has not seen them then there clearly can be no contract.

Perhaps some people should issue a claim against the landowner and clamping company asking for the £200 to be returned.

Lets not forget that initially LBS claimed to be law abiding and told the Echo 'dont park in xx and you wont be clamped' but as it went on it became clear that LBS were often acting illegally and ended up with many LBS staff being arrested for various offences.
A lot of people here are assuming that people who park there know they are not allowed, its been commented that the signs are not very visible and have at times been vandalised and removed, to be able to legally charge a removal fee the driver would have to enter a contract, this assumes he has read and agreed to the T&C's on the signs, if he has not seen them then there clearly can be no contract. Perhaps some people should issue a claim against the landowner and clamping company asking for the £200 to be returned. Lets not forget that initially LBS claimed to be law abiding and told the Echo 'dont park in xx and you wont be clamped' but as it went on it became clear that LBS were often acting illegally and ended up with many LBS staff being arrested for various offences. andy:)
  • Score: 0

8:08am Thu 13 Sep 12

Blind Haze says...

If you park for a couple of minutes in a restricted bay, the clampers will be out in force attaching a metal clamp to your car and charging £200 for the privilege of having it removed. If a burglar enters your house, any physical attempts to remove him from your property can end up with you getting prosecuted.

It's a funny old world.
If you park for a couple of minutes in a restricted bay, the clampers will be out in force attaching a metal clamp to your car and charging £200 for the privilege of having it removed. If a burglar enters your house, any physical attempts to remove him from your property can end up with you getting prosecuted. It's a funny old world. Blind Haze
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10:27pm Thu 13 Sep 12

beyond the valley of the asbos says...

one spring roll for 'er in doors....? get a life or get a new feckin wife
one spring roll for 'er in doors....? get a life or get a new feckin wife beyond the valley of the asbos
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6:36pm Sun 16 Sep 12

All 9 of me says...

anyone who thinks a spring roll is a 'treat' needs their head looking at
anyone who thinks a spring roll is a 'treat' needs their head looking at All 9 of me
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