Just 122 comments on £1bn town revamp (From Southend Standard)

I think its more a case of people feel the council will do what ever they want and not that its a done deal. When has any council listened to the people it represents.

I agree with the above, they have not listened to any of the concerns about other developments in Basildon. They just do as they like

Max 269 wrote:
I think its more a case of people feel the council will do what ever they want and not that its a done deal. When has any council listened to the people it represents.

You hit the nail on the head Max, its the same in Southend and probably most places in the UK.

TheWizzard wrote:
I agree with the above, they have not listened to any of the concerns about other developments in Basildon. They just do as they like

Totally agree with this observation.

The recent revelations regarding the Courtauld Road Waste treatment site and the Council's continued desire to develop green belt in the area which is contrary to their stance on the Dale Farm folk (which I am becoming to think was just a 'convenient' stick to beat them with) tends to give one a very negative and suspicious approach to the Council who don't really seem to have the best interests of the people of Basildon in mind

Could it be the only people around when they took this survey were the benefits crowd who only care where their next council supplied paycheck is coming from?

Plus, when have the ruling elite ever listened to the concerns of the great unwashed?

TheWizzard wrote:
I agree with the above, they have not listened to any of the concerns about other developments in Basildon. They just do as they like

So can we refer to Bas Council as 'Do as you likeys'? Cos that would explain the favouritism shown to a certain local grouping of Navejo residents.

When I read the headline my initial reaction is exactly the same as Max 269, The Wizzard etc, But this is not limited to Local Government - look at the long drawn out consultation on the Dartford Crossing Tolls etc 1300+ response to that including 6 Local Mp's The Department of Transport are just going ahead with what they want anyway. Its pointless responding to any so called consultation. The only way these days is to form a Pressure Group and get it on Social Networking to get anything done. A recent example is the Fish Fight campaign to get fish discards of fish not allowed because of stupid quotas banned - Over 800,00 have signed up and got in the Bureaucrats faces and slowly - but surely it will come in. Don't know what I am talking about well it was not any news yesterday - But they have agree d to bring in the Ban bit by bit. Te national Media were more interested in what Kate Middleton was wearing - that seems more important. Here's a link if you are interested.
http://www.fishfight
.net/

The Cater Wood Creeper wrote:

TheWizzard wrote: I agree with the above, they have not listened to any of the concerns about other developments in Basildon. They just do as they like

Totally agree with this observation. The recent revelations regarding the Courtauld Road Waste treatment site and the Council's continued desire to develop green belt in the area which is contrary to their stance on the Dale Farm folk (which I am becoming to think was just a 'convenient' stick to beat them with) tends to give one a very negative and suspicious approach to the Council who don't really seem to have the best interests of the people of Basildon in mind

Can you tell us what green belt site the council has continued desire to develop? Or are you conveniently getting 'green belt' confused with 'open space'? Appreciate the sentiments, but there is a difference and that means they are not going against their Dale Farm stance.

It is a shame that not more responses were given, but it could be because people want the town centre developed and are maybe sceptical that it won't happen?

Who could say the town does not need regeneration, and a new cinema, college and restaurants etc will really change and improve the town centre.

Better to use some of the £1bn to allow big reductions in rates for all the shop owners, who are closing down everywhere in Basildon (soon to become a ghost town). It is SHOPS and their trade that will enliven Basildon, not cinemas, or more restaurants. People come to Basildon to shop. I can think of many other worthy things to do with the rest of the £1bn

The facts are that irrespective of the responses they recieve the Council does exactly what the Tories who run it want. If you look at almost all the planning applications that have come in and residents have opposed they all go the way the Tories want. Why would anyone think they would be listened to unless of course they simply agreed with the proposals. This is not about nimbyism but real concerns about the erosion of open spaces in the Borough and overdevelopment for private gain. Not necessarily for monetary gain but in pursuance of Tory Policy although in the case of Gloucester Park and other open spaces its to pay off debts that they incurred building sporting village. Again they refused to listen to residents who didnt want it buit. They will do what they want brigade are sadly right this time they will look about the borough there are examples everywhere.

crash19811 wrote:

The Cater Wood Creeper wrote:

TheWizzard wrote: I agree with the above, they have not listened to any of the concerns about other developments in Basildon. They just do as they like

Totally agree with this observation. The recent revelations regarding the Courtauld Road Waste treatment site and the Council's continued desire to develop green belt in the area which is contrary to their stance on the Dale Farm folk (which I am becoming to think was just a 'convenient' stick to beat them with) tends to give one a very negative and suspicious approach to the Council who don't really seem to have the best interests of the people of Basildon in mind

Can you tell us what green belt site the council has continued desire to develop? Or are you conveniently getting 'green belt' confused with 'open space'? Appreciate the sentiments, but there is a difference and that means they are not going against their Dale Farm stance.

Nice to see the tory councils mouthpiece speaking again. As for green belt people should be aware that the only green belt in Basildon itself is that of Wat Tyler park, the rest is conveniently North of The A127 (Billericay/Wickford
) All of the parks south of the A127 are 'open space'/recreation grounds and therefore they can be built on. Gloucester park is slowly being eroded and turned into a housing estate and other parks/recreation grounds are under threat. As for the travellers, perhaps the echo should investigate who has a benificial interest in the surrounding land. (One of them being a councillor)

EthanEdwards wrote:

TheWizzard wrote:
I agree with the above, they have not listened to any of the concerns about other developments in Basildon. They just do as they like

So can we refer to Bas Council as 'Do as you likeys'? Cos that would explain the favouritism shown to a certain local grouping of Navejo residents.

Bit late with your prejudice it would seem.

Perhaps if the council had finished off on their feedback forms with "Oh yeah Travellers" they would of got many more responses! Seems to work for the Echo! LOL.

crash19811 wrote:

The Cater Wood Creeper wrote:

TheWizzard wrote: I agree with the above, they have not listened to any of the concerns about other developments in Basildon. They just do as they like

Totally agree with this observation. The recent revelations regarding the Courtauld Road Waste treatment site and the Council's continued desire to develop green belt in the area which is contrary to their stance on the Dale Farm folk (which I am becoming to think was just a 'convenient' stick to beat them with) tends to give one a very negative and suspicious approach to the Council who don't really seem to have the best interests of the people of Basildon in mind

Can you tell us what green belt site the council has continued desire to develop? Or are you conveniently getting 'green belt' confused with 'open space'? Appreciate the sentiments, but there is a difference and that means they are not going against their Dale Farm stance.

They agreed two houses being built on greenbelt land just down the road from DF...for dog kennels. Didn't they sell GB land to Nottinghamshire council... for development

E-Types wrote:

crash19811 wrote:

The Cater Wood Creeper wrote:

TheWizzard wrote: I agree with the above, they have not listened to any of the concerns about other developments in Basildon. They just do as they like

Totally agree with this observation. The recent revelations regarding the Courtauld Road Waste treatment site and the Council's continued desire to develop green belt in the area which is contrary to their stance on the Dale Farm folk (which I am becoming to think was just a 'convenient' stick to beat them with) tends to give one a very negative and suspicious approach to the Council who don't really seem to have the best interests of the people of Basildon in mind

Can you tell us what green belt site the council has continued desire to develop? Or are you conveniently getting 'green belt' confused with 'open space'? Appreciate the sentiments, but there is a difference and that means they are not going against their Dale Farm stance.

They agreed two houses being built on greenbelt land just down the road from DF...for dog kennels. Didn't they sell GB land to Nottinghamshire council... for development

no notts cc land was speculative purchase bought from a farmer for their pension fund

essexlady wrote:
Better to use some of the £1bn to allow big reductions in rates for all the shop owners, who are closing down everywhere in Basildon (soon to become a ghost town). It is SHOPS and their trade that will enliven Basildon, not cinemas, or more restaurants. People come to Basildon to shop. I can think of many other worthy things to do with the rest of the £1bn

£1bn is indicative figure for how much the regen will cost. It is not council funds but private investment, ie it cant be used to reduce rates

crash19811 wrote:

E-Types wrote:

crash19811 wrote:

The Cater Wood Creeper wrote:

TheWizzard wrote: I agree with the above, they have not listened to any of the concerns about other developments in Basildon. They just do as they like

Totally agree with this observation. The recent revelations regarding the Courtauld Road Waste treatment site and the Council's continued desire to develop green belt in the area which is contrary to their stance on the Dale Farm folk (which I am becoming to think was just a 'convenient' stick to beat them with) tends to give one a very negative and suspicious approach to the Council who don't really seem to have the best interests of the people of Basildon in mind

Can you tell us what green belt site the council has continued desire to develop? Or are you conveniently getting 'green belt' confused with 'open space'? Appreciate the sentiments, but there is a difference and that means they are not going against their Dale Farm stance.

They agreed two houses being built on greenbelt land just down the road from DF...for dog kennels. Didn't they sell GB land to Nottinghamshire council... for development

no notts cc land was speculative purchase bought from a farmer for their pension fund

There is a Labour councillor on NCC (Alan Michael Clark) who is on the sub committee of the pension admistration and pension investment sub committee, he is also part of the London Thames Gateway developments corporation planning committee. Isn't Tony Ball linked to this thames gateway project in some way?

TheWizzard wrote:

crash19811 wrote:

E-Types wrote:

crash19811 wrote:

The Cater Wood Creeper wrote:

TheWizzard wrote: I agree with the above, they have not listened to any of the concerns about other developments in Basildon. They just do as they like

Totally agree with this observation. The recent revelations regarding the Courtauld Road Waste treatment site and the Council's continued desire to develop green belt in the area which is contrary to their stance on the Dale Farm folk (which I am becoming to think was just a 'convenient' stick to beat them with) tends to give one a very negative and suspicious approach to the Council who don't really seem to have the best interests of the people of Basildon in mind

Can you tell us what green belt site the council has continued desire to develop? Or are you conveniently getting 'green belt' confused with 'open space'? Appreciate the sentiments, but there is a difference and that means they are not going against their Dale Farm stance.

They agreed two houses being built on greenbelt land just down the road from DF...for dog kennels. Didn't they sell GB land to Nottinghamshire council... for development

no notts cc land was speculative purchase bought from a farmer for their pension fund

There is a Labour councillor on NCC (Alan Michael Clark) who is on the sub committee of the pension admistration and pension investment sub committee, he is also part of the London Thames Gateway developments corporation planning committee. Isn't Tony Ball linked to this thames gateway project in some way?

Ball and his type are always merged into each others shadows.

TheWizzard wrote:

crash19811 wrote:

E-Types wrote:

crash19811 wrote:

The Cater Wood Creeper wrote:

TheWizzard wrote: I agree with the above, they have not listened to any of the concerns about other developments in Basildon. They just do as they like

Totally agree with this observation. The recent revelations regarding the Courtauld Road Waste treatment site and the Council's continued desire to develop green belt in the area which is contrary to their stance on the Dale Farm folk (which I am becoming to think was just a 'convenient' stick to beat them with) tends to give one a very negative and suspicious approach to the Council who don't really seem to have the best interests of the people of Basildon in mind

Can you tell us what green belt site the council has continued desire to develop? Or are you conveniently getting 'green belt' confused with 'open space'? Appreciate the sentiments, but there is a difference and that means they are not going against their Dale Farm stance.

They agreed two houses being built on greenbelt land just down the road from DF...for dog kennels. Didn't they sell GB land to Nottinghamshire council... for development

no notts cc land was speculative purchase bought from a farmer for their pension fund

There is a Labour councillor on NCC (Alan Michael Clark) who is on the sub committee of the pension admistration and pension investment sub committee, he is also part of the London Thames Gateway developments corporation planning committee. Isn't Tony Ball linked to this thames gateway project in some way?

Basildon was part of the Thames Gateway regeneration area set up by the previous government. Basildon was part of Thames Gateway south essex, not Thames Gateway London. I imagine Ball sat on Thames Gateway South Essex committee's but they did not have any planning responsibility like Thames Gateway london