Has work stalled on Leigh's £4.5m Grand Hotel revamp?

Delayed? The Grand Hotel

Locked up - The gates of The Grand on Wednesday

First published in Echo News by

CONCERNS have been raised over a lack of building work taking place at the Grand Hotel in Leigh.

The hotel in Leigh Broadway has been undergoing a £4.5million revamp so it can be turned into a boutique hotel and spa.

Rumours have been circulating that work had ground to a halt and yesterday the Echo found the site had been closed off with no builders to be seen.

Mick Norcross, the former Towie star behind the hotel’s revamp, refused to comment to the Echo about the situation, but hinted that it would be ready for the scheduled opening date of winter 2015.

Caroline Parker, former chairman of Leigh Town Council, said: “I drove past there and there was no sign of any work going on and it did concern me.

“I know there has been work taking place this summer, but I could not see any sign of people there.

“I really hope something happens soon though otherwise I will have egg onmy face as I publicly had a lot of faith in him.

“Of course he won’t want anything to go wrong and tarnish his reputation either.

“I love that building and if I had the money, I would buy it myself just to save it.”

The project to revamp the iconic building will see 20 bedrooms, a piano lounge, bar, restaurant, tea rooms and luxury spa created.

However, it has been held up previously by subsidence and the invasion of Japanese knotweed.

Work eventually began in April, but yesterday, the Twitter account @everythingleigh tweeted: “Work has stopped on the Grand, #LeighonSea with no firm date for starting again.”

A Twitter account set-up by those involved in the Grand’s revamp has not posted any updates since the middle of July.

! Do you know if the Grand plan is on track? Call the newsroom on 01702 321159.

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7:49am Fri 5 Sep 14

VeteranOfMany says...

For something to stall, it would have first had to be started, this fiasco has seen some knotweed removed and a fence erected.
I suspect that as the once TOWIE dream machine begins to fade, and those people realise that the never ending river of money, has now become a mere trickle, the desire to venture into something as ambitious as this might not seem like the dream it was, more of a nightmare.
For something to stall, it would have first had to be started, this fiasco has seen some knotweed removed and a fence erected. I suspect that as the once TOWIE dream machine begins to fade, and those people realise that the never ending river of money, has now become a mere trickle, the desire to venture into something as ambitious as this might not seem like the dream it was, more of a nightmare. VeteranOfMany
  • Score: 32

8:12am Fri 5 Sep 14

Thames Gateway says...

I know, lets make a reality TV programme about the saga....
I know, lets make a reality TV programme about the saga.... Thames Gateway
  • Score: 23

9:27am Fri 5 Sep 14

The King of Southend says...

I wish it could be turned back into the boozer it used to be in the early 90's.

I miss that place.
I wish it could be turned back into the boozer it used to be in the early 90's. I miss that place. The King of Southend
  • Score: 33

10:46am Fri 5 Sep 14

sesibollox says...

Looks like Norcross has done a runner....probably going skint.
Looks like Norcross has done a runner....probably going skint. sesibollox
  • Score: 24

11:35am Fri 5 Sep 14

Howard Cháse says...

This redevelopment is never going to happen. Not while Mr 'Ooh look at me I used to be on telly you know' Norcross is at the helm.
This redevelopment is never going to happen. Not while Mr 'Ooh look at me I used to be on telly you know' Norcross is at the helm. Howard Cháse
  • Score: 26

1:25pm Fri 5 Sep 14

counosboy2 says...

Might be quite nice for Caroline to address the mountain of litter that is collecting around the perimeter of the site?
Might be quite nice for Caroline to address the mountain of litter that is collecting around the perimeter of the site? counosboy2
  • Score: 16

2:55pm Fri 5 Sep 14

Bernard Fatsack says...

"As a nosey neighbour I see the work has halted"
Jeez get a life and yes I wish it would be returned into the great place it was a few decades ago !
Do not underestimate this Japanese knotweed and the cost of removal is a £1000 a square metre by the so called "specialist firms" plus the Banks are scared of it anywhere near a property so his funding may have dried up like his audiences watching the umpa lumpurs with air between their ears.
"As a nosey neighbour I see the work has halted" Jeez get a life and yes I wish it would be returned into the great place it was a few decades ago ! Do not underestimate this Japanese knotweed and the cost of removal is a £1000 a square metre by the so called "specialist firms" plus the Banks are scared of it anywhere near a property so his funding may have dried up like his audiences watching the umpa lumpurs with air between their ears. Bernard Fatsack
  • Score: 3

2:56pm Fri 5 Sep 14

Nicks2 says...

I live opposite the Grand and can say that there has been no work going on there for at least two months. The litter is a disgrace. I took the liberty of contacting Mr Norcross' P.A. who was no help (and very rude with it!). She said that there had been issues with the building control at the council but rest assured, it would be going ahead. I cannot see this ever happening and it is even more of an eyesore than before the wooden fence was put up!
I live opposite the Grand and can say that there has been no work going on there for at least two months. The litter is a disgrace. I took the liberty of contacting Mr Norcross' P.A. who was no help (and very rude with it!). She said that there had been issues with the building control at the council but rest assured, it would be going ahead. I cannot see this ever happening and it is even more of an eyesore than before the wooden fence was put up! Nicks2
  • Score: 30

3:05pm Fri 5 Sep 14

MilesBond says...

The banks will be looking for certificates of adequacy following the Knotweed removal. This usually takes a couple of months monitoring the infected area.
The banks will be looking for certificates of adequacy following the Knotweed removal. This usually takes a couple of months monitoring the infected area. MilesBond
  • Score: 2

3:47pm Fri 5 Sep 14

colsmith says...

If you know Norcross, you know it will be money related. He has none....
If you know Norcross, you know it will be money related. He has none.... colsmith
  • Score: 21

6:38pm Fri 5 Sep 14

Ishmail says...

counosboy2 wrote:
Might be quite nice for Caroline to address the mountain of litter that is collecting around the perimeter of the site?
I sent leigh town council an email on the 26/8/04 about the rubbish that now looks like a "giant rubbish bin"at the grand and the fact there was no work going on...yes they did reply,but just told me they have forwarded my email to southend council,why can't they do something,after all I pay extra rates to them...as for Caroline Parker she got forwarded a copy of my email too.so she allready new about the rubbish and the fact that no work is going on at the grand!!So yes her words "you have got egg on your face"you really didn't need to drive by just read what local people are saying..
[quote][p][bold]counosboy2[/bold] wrote: Might be quite nice for Caroline to address the mountain of litter that is collecting around the perimeter of the site?[/p][/quote]I sent leigh town council an email on the 26/8/04 about the rubbish that now looks like a "giant rubbish bin"at the grand and the fact there was no work going on...yes they did reply,but just told me they have forwarded my email to southend council,why can't they do something,after all I pay extra rates to them...as for Caroline Parker she got forwarded a copy of my email too.so she allready new about the rubbish and the fact that no work is going on at the grand!!So yes her words "you have got egg on your face"you really didn't need to drive by just read what local people are saying.. Ishmail
  • Score: 12

7:02pm Fri 5 Sep 14

abd123 says...

It is obvious that they cannot get any builders because they are all working on building SUFC stadium.
It is obvious that they cannot get any builders because they are all working on building SUFC stadium. abd123
  • Score: 3

10:17pm Fri 5 Sep 14

Fliss1 says...

Caroline won't address the littering problem because I'm not sure there is a polite way to tell residents not to s%@t on their own doorstep. Perhaps she is hoping that if it gets bad enough Mr Norcross would pay for the removal of it when it's something the council should be sorting out.  

As disappointing as it may be for Howard Chase to have Mr 'ooh look at me I used to be on telly you know' at the helm, he is the only person willing to take on the challenge, unless of course Mr Chase you are offering to step up to the mark? I don't see why someone would walk away when they have surely invested so much money already however I do wonder who we think we are to dictate timescales anyway, we aren't investing any money into it. The council hasn't employed Mr Norcross to refurbish it on their behalf so unfortunately even the council cannot condemn anyone over how long it's taking. 

Is the guy standing in the way of anyone else desperate to refurbish it.... didn't think so... or are you all simply hoping that if there is no developer it will get pulled down, is that what the issue is?

I hope it gets refurbished but equally am not about to complain if it doesn't or if it takes a little longer than we'd like. I got over it being an empty building several years ago and I also accepted that the council can't invest money to do anything about it. Any potential developer should be supported not complained about, it is apparent they are the only chance of the building becoming more than it is or has been for years!
Caroline won't address the littering problem because I'm not sure there is a polite way to tell residents not to s%@t on their own doorstep. Perhaps she is hoping that if it gets bad enough Mr Norcross would pay for the removal of it when it's something the council should be sorting out.   As disappointing as it may be for Howard Chase to have Mr 'ooh look at me I used to be on telly you know' at the helm, he is the only person willing to take on the challenge, unless of course Mr Chase you are offering to step up to the mark? I don't see why someone would walk away when they have surely invested so much money already however I do wonder who we think we are to dictate timescales anyway, we aren't investing any money into it. The council hasn't employed Mr Norcross to refurbish it on their behalf so unfortunately even the council cannot condemn anyone over how long it's taking.  Is the guy standing in the way of anyone else desperate to refurbish it.... didn't think so... or are you all simply hoping that if there is no developer it will get pulled down, is that what the issue is? I hope it gets refurbished but equally am not about to complain if it doesn't or if it takes a little longer than we'd like. I got over it being an empty building several years ago and I also accepted that the council can't invest money to do anything about it. Any potential developer should be supported not complained about, it is apparent they are the only chance of the building becoming more than it is or has been for years! Fliss1
  • Score: -16

8:10am Sat 6 Sep 14

Broadwaywatch says...

As many a Leigh resident predicted years ago, it is just a matter of time before the Grand will sadly be demolished because it will become beyond repair and in its place ....surprise, surprise a modern block of flats will appear.
It was brave words Caroline Parker but I tend to think you backed the wrong horse. I feel that this might turn out to be a prolonged issue like the Bell Hotel became in Old Leigh.
As many a Leigh resident predicted years ago, it is just a matter of time before the Grand will sadly be demolished because it will become beyond repair and in its place ....surprise, surprise a modern block of flats will appear. It was brave words Caroline Parker but I tend to think you backed the wrong horse. I feel that this might turn out to be a prolonged issue like the Bell Hotel became in Old Leigh. Broadwaywatch
  • Score: 2

10:06am Sat 6 Sep 14

Nicks2 says...

Fliss1 wrote:
Caroline won't address the littering problem because I'm not sure there is a polite way to tell residents not to s%@t on their own doorstep. Perhaps she is hoping that if it gets bad enough Mr Norcross would pay for the removal of it when it's something the council should be sorting out.  

As disappointing as it may be for Howard Chase to have Mr 'ooh look at me I used to be on telly you know' at the helm, he is the only person willing to take on the challenge, unless of course Mr Chase you are offering to step up to the mark? I don't see why someone would walk away when they have surely invested so much money already however I do wonder who we think we are to dictate timescales anyway, we aren't investing any money into it. The council hasn't employed Mr Norcross to refurbish it on their behalf so unfortunately even the council cannot condemn anyone over how long it's taking. 

Is the guy standing in the way of anyone else desperate to refurbish it.... didn't think so... or are you all simply hoping that if there is no developer it will get pulled down, is that what the issue is?

I hope it gets refurbished but equally am not about to complain if it doesn't or if it takes a little longer than we'd like. I got over it being an empty building several years ago and I also accepted that the council can't invest money to do anything about it. Any potential developer should be supported not complained about, it is apparent they are the only chance of the building becoming more than it is or has been for years!
Fliss1 - the style of your writing leads me to believe you are Mr Norcross' P.A.....
[quote][p][bold]Fliss1[/bold] wrote: Caroline won't address the littering problem because I'm not sure there is a polite way to tell residents not to s%@t on their own doorstep. Perhaps she is hoping that if it gets bad enough Mr Norcross would pay for the removal of it when it's something the council should be sorting out.   As disappointing as it may be for Howard Chase to have Mr 'ooh look at me I used to be on telly you know' at the helm, he is the only person willing to take on the challenge, unless of course Mr Chase you are offering to step up to the mark? I don't see why someone would walk away when they have surely invested so much money already however I do wonder who we think we are to dictate timescales anyway, we aren't investing any money into it. The council hasn't employed Mr Norcross to refurbish it on their behalf so unfortunately even the council cannot condemn anyone over how long it's taking.  Is the guy standing in the way of anyone else desperate to refurbish it.... didn't think so... or are you all simply hoping that if there is no developer it will get pulled down, is that what the issue is? I hope it gets refurbished but equally am not about to complain if it doesn't or if it takes a little longer than we'd like. I got over it being an empty building several years ago and I also accepted that the council can't invest money to do anything about it. Any potential developer should be supported not complained about, it is apparent they are the only chance of the building becoming more than it is or has been for years![/p][/quote]Fliss1 - the style of your writing leads me to believe you are Mr Norcross' P.A..... Nicks2
  • Score: 20

11:01am Sat 6 Sep 14

sesibollox says...

I find it all really funny, that the local residents now have this eyesore full of rats and rubbish.
I find it all really funny, that the local residents now have this eyesore full of rats and rubbish. sesibollox
  • Score: -5

12:24pm Sat 6 Sep 14

Now listen for I have something to say says...

Yep this is going to be a long and drawn out derelict building, glad not to be living near it, sort of place that stays that way for years, as the owner can do what he likes, when he likes
Yep this is going to be a long and drawn out derelict building, glad not to be living near it, sort of place that stays that way for years, as the owner can do what he likes, when he likes Now listen for I have something to say
  • Score: 1

12:32pm Sat 6 Sep 14

Now listen for I have something to say says...

Nicks2 wrote:
I live opposite the Grand and can say that there has been no work going on there for at least two months. The litter is a disgrace. I took the liberty of contacting Mr Norcross' P.A. who was no help (and very rude with it!). She said that there had been issues with the building control at the council but rest assured, it would be going ahead. I cannot see this ever happening and it is even more of an eyesore than before the wooden fence was put up!
Get a litter picker and do your bit for your community
[quote][p][bold]Nicks2[/bold] wrote: I live opposite the Grand and can say that there has been no work going on there for at least two months. The litter is a disgrace. I took the liberty of contacting Mr Norcross' P.A. who was no help (and very rude with it!). She said that there had been issues with the building control at the council but rest assured, it would be going ahead. I cannot see this ever happening and it is even more of an eyesore than before the wooden fence was put up![/p][/quote]Get a litter picker and do your bit for your community Now listen for I have something to say
  • Score: -3

1:17pm Sat 6 Sep 14

burghcastle says...

No derelict building the size and condition of the Grand Hotel can be repaired to its original state on as little as £4.5million it will take a lot more than that little amount for the scheme to go anywere near fixing up the Hotel, its impossible. CllrParker should have known this was the case before she sighned the contract on the Grand Hotel. Cllr Parker was a director of a property manager buisness she should have known better to make a mistake like this.
No derelict building the size and condition of the Grand Hotel can be repaired to its original state on as little as £4.5million it will take a lot more than that little amount for the scheme to go anywere near fixing up the Hotel, its impossible. CllrParker should have known this was the case before she sighned the contract on the Grand Hotel. Cllr Parker was a director of a property manager buisness she should have known better to make a mistake like this. burghcastle
  • Score: 6

1:22pm Sat 6 Sep 14

burghcastle says...

VeteranOfMany wrote:
For something to stall, it would have first had to be started, this fiasco has seen some knotweed removed and a fence erected.
I suspect that as the once TOWIE dream machine begins to fade, and those people realise that the never ending river of money, has now become a mere trickle, the desire to venture into something as ambitious as this might not seem like the dream it was, more of a nightmare.
How true.
[quote][p][bold]VeteranOfMany[/bold] wrote: For something to stall, it would have first had to be started, this fiasco has seen some knotweed removed and a fence erected. I suspect that as the once TOWIE dream machine begins to fade, and those people realise that the never ending river of money, has now become a mere trickle, the desire to venture into something as ambitious as this might not seem like the dream it was, more of a nightmare.[/p][/quote]How true. burghcastle
  • Score: 7

2:30pm Sat 6 Sep 14

Tessiec says...

Now listen for I have something to say wrote:
Nicks2 wrote:
I live opposite the Grand and can say that there has been no work going on there for at least two months. The litter is a disgrace. I took the liberty of contacting Mr Norcross' P.A. who was no help (and very rude with it!). She said that there had been issues with the building control at the council but rest assured, it would be going ahead. I cannot see this ever happening and it is even more of an eyesore than before the wooden fence was put up!
Get a litter picker and do your bit for your community
I have a family member who has recently moved to the neighbouring area, we are constantly picking up people's litter and putting in our bin.

I would like the Grand to be refurbished but if Mr Norcross not going to go ahead then he should say so. I cannot see why he would not want to go ahead though, he has had a lot of enquiries from people wanting to use the Grand for functions, so if done up to get a nice classic people it will do well. But please do it up soon!
[quote][p][bold]Now listen for I have something to say[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nicks2[/bold] wrote: I live opposite the Grand and can say that there has been no work going on there for at least two months. The litter is a disgrace. I took the liberty of contacting Mr Norcross' P.A. who was no help (and very rude with it!). She said that there had been issues with the building control at the council but rest assured, it would be going ahead. I cannot see this ever happening and it is even more of an eyesore than before the wooden fence was put up![/p][/quote]Get a litter picker and do your bit for your community[/p][/quote]I have a family member who has recently moved to the neighbouring area, we are constantly picking up people's litter and putting in our bin. I would like the Grand to be refurbished but if Mr Norcross not going to go ahead then he should say so. I cannot see why he would not want to go ahead though, he has had a lot of enquiries from people wanting to use the Grand for functions, so if done up to get a nice classic people it will do well. But please do it up soon! Tessiec
  • Score: -2

8:07pm Sat 6 Sep 14

Nicks2 says...

Now listen for I have something to say wrote:
Nicks2 wrote:
I live opposite the Grand and can say that there has been no work going on there for at least two months. The litter is a disgrace. I took the liberty of contacting Mr Norcross' P.A. who was no help (and very rude with it!). She said that there had been issues with the building control at the council but rest assured, it would be going ahead. I cannot see this ever happening and it is even more of an eyesore than before the wooden fence was put up!
Get a litter picker and do your bit for your community
What a charmer. That is not the solution to this problem. And I do plenty for my community thanks.
[quote][p][bold]Now listen for I have something to say[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nicks2[/bold] wrote: I live opposite the Grand and can say that there has been no work going on there for at least two months. The litter is a disgrace. I took the liberty of contacting Mr Norcross' P.A. who was no help (and very rude with it!). She said that there had been issues with the building control at the council but rest assured, it would be going ahead. I cannot see this ever happening and it is even more of an eyesore than before the wooden fence was put up![/p][/quote]Get a litter picker and do your bit for your community[/p][/quote]What a charmer. That is not the solution to this problem. And I do plenty for my community thanks. Nicks2
  • Score: 7

7:04am Sun 7 Sep 14

colsmith says...

Could it be that despite assurances, payments due for work carried out have not been honoured...? Watch this space. Leopards find it difficult to change their spots....
Could it be that despite assurances, payments due for work carried out have not been honoured...? Watch this space. Leopards find it difficult to change their spots.... colsmith
  • Score: 11

12:49pm Sun 7 Sep 14

burghcastle says...

Bulldoze the Dump down and build council flats for the low wage workers & the unemployed it's the human thing to do!
Bulldoze the Dump down and build council flats for the low wage workers & the unemployed it's the human thing to do! burghcastle
  • Score: 5

6:43pm Sun 7 Sep 14

noj says...

http://companycheck.
co.uk/director/91046
4817/MR-MICHAEL-JOHN
-NORCROSS

this is all you need to see really
http://companycheck. co.uk/director/91046 4817/MR-MICHAEL-JOHN -NORCROSS this is all you need to see really noj
  • Score: 3

6:50pm Sun 7 Sep 14

Howard Cháse says...

They want to get a few decent crops from all the hydroponics in there first, allegedly
They want to get a few decent crops from all the hydroponics in there first, allegedly Howard Cháse
  • Score: 2

7:34pm Sun 7 Sep 14

Major Fortescue - Smythe says...

Such a shame to see this lovely building in this state, I remember as it was yesterday, the polished wooden flooring and panelling, with those high planted palms, crystal chandeliers in the lounge bars, white coated bar waiters, they used to have dances on a Saturday night...back in 1956.
Such a shame to see this lovely building in this state, I remember as it was yesterday, the polished wooden flooring and panelling, with those high planted palms, crystal chandeliers in the lounge bars, white coated bar waiters, they used to have dances on a Saturday night...back in 1956. Major Fortescue - Smythe
  • Score: 7

10:26pm Sun 7 Sep 14

Robin Reliant says...

Tessiec wrote:
Now listen for I have something to say wrote:
Nicks2 wrote:
I live opposite the Grand and can say that there has been no work going on there for at least two months. The litter is a disgrace. I took the liberty of contacting Mr Norcross' P.A. who was no help (and very rude with it!). She said that there had been issues with the building control at the council but rest assured, it would be going ahead. I cannot see this ever happening and it is even more of an eyesore than before the wooden fence was put up!
Get a litter picker and do your bit for your community
I have a family member who has recently moved to the neighbouring area, we are constantly picking up people's litter and putting in our bin.

I would like the Grand to be refurbished but if Mr Norcross not going to go ahead then he should say so. I cannot see why he would not want to go ahead though, he has had a lot of enquiries from people wanting to use the Grand for functions, so if done up to get a nice classic people it will do well. But please do it up soon!
I don't think a few functions with a pork pie finger buffet will bring in the big bucks, i mean who really is queuing up to hire it out for a knees up or wedding.?
[quote][p][bold]Tessiec[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Now listen for I have something to say[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nicks2[/bold] wrote: I live opposite the Grand and can say that there has been no work going on there for at least two months. The litter is a disgrace. I took the liberty of contacting Mr Norcross' P.A. who was no help (and very rude with it!). She said that there had been issues with the building control at the council but rest assured, it would be going ahead. I cannot see this ever happening and it is even more of an eyesore than before the wooden fence was put up![/p][/quote]Get a litter picker and do your bit for your community[/p][/quote]I have a family member who has recently moved to the neighbouring area, we are constantly picking up people's litter and putting in our bin. I would like the Grand to be refurbished but if Mr Norcross not going to go ahead then he should say so. I cannot see why he would not want to go ahead though, he has had a lot of enquiries from people wanting to use the Grand for functions, so if done up to get a nice classic people it will do well. But please do it up soon![/p][/quote]I don't think a few functions with a pork pie finger buffet will bring in the big bucks, i mean who really is queuing up to hire it out for a knees up or wedding.? Robin Reliant
  • Score: 2

10:40pm Sun 7 Sep 14

Robin Reliant says...

Fliss1 wrote:
Caroline won't address the littering problem because I'm not sure there is a polite way to tell residents not to s%@t on their own doorstep. Perhaps she is hoping that if it gets bad enough Mr Norcross would pay for the removal of it when it's something the council should be sorting out.  

As disappointing as it may be for Howard Chase to have Mr 'ooh look at me I used to be on telly you know' at the helm, he is the only person willing to take on the challenge, unless of course Mr Chase you are offering to step up to the mark? I don't see why someone would walk away when they have surely invested so much money already however I do wonder who we think we are to dictate timescales anyway, we aren't investing any money into it. The council hasn't employed Mr Norcross to refurbish it on their behalf so unfortunately even the council cannot condemn anyone over how long it's taking. 

Is the guy standing in the way of anyone else desperate to refurbish it.... didn't think so... or are you all simply hoping that if there is no developer it will get pulled down, is that what the issue is?

I hope it gets refurbished but equally am not about to complain if it doesn't or if it takes a little longer than we'd like. I got over it being an empty building several years ago and I also accepted that the council can't invest money to do anything about it. Any potential developer should be supported not complained about, it is apparent they are the only chance of the building becoming more than it is or has been for years!
Its not down to the council to pick litter up from private or commercial residencies, but just shows how many lazy arsed scumbags around that have been dumping rubbish on/in there, guess who ever put up the hoarding messed up big style leaving such a gap guessing the same amateurs that painted a yellow line on the road to deter people parking over the access, some things adrift thats for sure, just thinking once the couple of blokes that where in there ripping things apart found something nasty maybe theres a re-think, lets not forget another local pub company was buying it at one point and they are not stupid by no means, they passed it up for a good reason.
The council can however force the owner to clean things up or send them the bill if they refuse, maybe all those installed CCTV cams could pick out a few of the flytippers as the rubbish is growing daily, Henry should have took it one for one big Burger, cocktail and music joint, he turned round his current place in good time, no messing ,was slightly smaller granted.
[quote][p][bold]Fliss1[/bold] wrote: Caroline won't address the littering problem because I'm not sure there is a polite way to tell residents not to s%@t on their own doorstep. Perhaps she is hoping that if it gets bad enough Mr Norcross would pay for the removal of it when it's something the council should be sorting out.   As disappointing as it may be for Howard Chase to have Mr 'ooh look at me I used to be on telly you know' at the helm, he is the only person willing to take on the challenge, unless of course Mr Chase you are offering to step up to the mark? I don't see why someone would walk away when they have surely invested so much money already however I do wonder who we think we are to dictate timescales anyway, we aren't investing any money into it. The council hasn't employed Mr Norcross to refurbish it on their behalf so unfortunately even the council cannot condemn anyone over how long it's taking.  Is the guy standing in the way of anyone else desperate to refurbish it.... didn't think so... or are you all simply hoping that if there is no developer it will get pulled down, is that what the issue is? I hope it gets refurbished but equally am not about to complain if it doesn't or if it takes a little longer than we'd like. I got over it being an empty building several years ago and I also accepted that the council can't invest money to do anything about it. Any potential developer should be supported not complained about, it is apparent they are the only chance of the building becoming more than it is or has been for years![/p][/quote]Its not down to the council to pick litter up from private or commercial residencies, but just shows how many lazy arsed scumbags around that have been dumping rubbish on/in there, guess who ever put up the hoarding messed up big style leaving such a gap guessing the same amateurs that painted a yellow line on the road to deter people parking over the access, some things adrift thats for sure, just thinking once the couple of blokes that where in there ripping things apart found something nasty maybe theres a re-think, lets not forget another local pub company was buying it at one point and they are not stupid by no means, they passed it up for a good reason. The council can however force the owner to clean things up or send them the bill if they refuse, maybe all those installed CCTV cams could pick out a few of the flytippers as the rubbish is growing daily, Henry should have took it one for one big Burger, cocktail and music joint, he turned round his current place in good time, no messing ,was slightly smaller granted. Robin Reliant
  • Score: 3

7:29am Mon 8 Sep 14

SARFENDMAN says...

Work stalled on the lovely old York Road Market to such an extent that it had to be demolished. Owners you may ask? SOUTHEND BOROUGH COUNCIL. " I rest my case me lud". So in their eyes,
no big deal here
Work stalled on the lovely old York Road Market to such an extent that it had to be demolished. Owners you may ask? SOUTHEND BOROUGH COUNCIL. " I rest my case me lud". So in their eyes, no big deal here SARFENDMAN
  • Score: 4

1:32pm Mon 8 Sep 14

sesibollox says...

SARFENDMAN wrote:
Work stalled on the lovely old York Road Market to such an extent that it had to be demolished. Owners you may ask? SOUTHEND BOROUGH COUNCIL. " I rest my case me lud". So in their eyes,
no big deal here
Stay in Sarfend Dimbo...
[quote][p][bold]SARFENDMAN[/bold] wrote: Work stalled on the lovely old York Road Market to such an extent that it had to be demolished. Owners you may ask? SOUTHEND BOROUGH COUNCIL. " I rest my case me lud". So in their eyes, no big deal here[/p][/quote]Stay in Sarfend Dimbo... sesibollox
  • Score: -5
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