Fears Southend airport growth could close 120-year-old Rochford Hundred golf club

Southend Standard: Flood risk – Jon Fuller and Denis Walker of Friends of the Earth Flood risk – Jon Fuller and Denis Walker of Friends of the Earth

BOSSES of a 120-year-old golf course fear for its future if plans to extend the area around Southend Airport go ahead.

Golfers and management at Rochford Hundred Golf Club say building further on to the flood plain could lead to severe flooding on the course and make it unplayable.

They gave evidence as the South East Essex Friends of the Earth group begin its planning challenge in front of a Government inspector hoping to stop Rochford and Southend councils’ Joint Area Action Plan.

The plan sets out future expansion of industry and business around the airport, including plans for a new medical technology centre off Cherry Orchard Way, which could create 4,000 jobs.

Neil Wells, golf club secretary, was concerned about the general expansion of the area. He said: “It appears from the proposals a very large hangar and hard standings are planned for construction close to the boundary of the golf course.

“The entire proposed site is shown within the plan as being located within the flood zone and it would seem inevitable that further, regular, serious flooding would interrupt play at the course.”

Holding a picture of the flooded golf course on a previous occasion, Mr Wells said protection of the course, and surrounding land, from flooding had not been properly considered.

He added plans to increase jets at the airport could make noise unbearable for users of the course and residents in and around the site.

Jon Fuller, coordinator of South East Essex Friends of the Earth, said: “Local residents and businesses will be affected by concreting over such a large area of the flood plain.

“The risk of flooding will put off many insurers from covering properties in the area.”

David Lister, operations director at Southend Airport said: “Government policy and the Proposed Policy in the joint plan (Policy MRO2) is clear that any proposal for development of this land would need to be accompanied by a flood risk assessment.

“This would need to demonstrate that the development would be safe and not increase flood risk to others.

The council would at that time receive advice from the Environment Agency to assure them these requirements had been met.”

He added that noise monitoring at the airport continues to be carried out to minimise the impact on local residents.

A spokesman for both Rochford and Southend councils said: “The councils are confident the Joint Area Action Plan policies address the issues of flooding. We await the Government inspector’s views.”

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4:10pm Sat 3 May 14

beaulocks says...

I can't see why this will be a problem, most members are above 70 so by the time this is all done it really won't matter.

As for the noise, a recent survey at the club revealed that 93% of members had never heard any planes nearby. Not for ten years or so anyway.
I can't see why this will be a problem, most members are above 70 so by the time this is all done it really won't matter. As for the noise, a recent survey at the club revealed that 93% of members had never heard any planes nearby. Not for ten years or so anyway. beaulocks
  • Score: -11

4:13pm Sat 3 May 14

beaulocks says...

The other 7% always jump in the bunker! Spose it does ruin the golf a bit.
The other 7% always jump in the bunker! Spose it does ruin the golf a bit. beaulocks
  • Score: -10

5:10pm Sat 3 May 14

tws123 says...

Nice to the see the Golf Club are so concerned that they got the two leading lights of SAEN for the picture! SAEN making a fuss over nothing as usual... yawn
Nice to the see the Golf Club are so concerned that they got the two leading lights of SAEN for the picture! SAEN making a fuss over nothing as usual... yawn tws123
  • Score: -3

5:22pm Sat 3 May 14

beaulocks says...

tws123 wrote:
Nice to the see the Golf Club are so concerned that they got the two leading lights of SAEN for the picture! SAEN making a fuss over nothing as usual... yawn
I knew they weren't members, they would be known in there as the youth of today.
[quote][p][bold]tws123[/bold] wrote: Nice to the see the Golf Club are so concerned that they got the two leading lights of SAEN for the picture! SAEN making a fuss over nothing as usual... yawn[/p][/quote]I knew they weren't members, they would be known in there as the youth of today. beaulocks
  • Score: 0

5:47pm Sat 3 May 14

beaulocks says...

tws123 wrote:
Nice to the see the Golf Club are so concerned that they got the two leading lights of SAEN for the picture! SAEN making a fuss over nothing as usual... yawn
"Leading lights of SAEN"

Is it not Mr Beans brother on the right?
[quote][p][bold]tws123[/bold] wrote: Nice to the see the Golf Club are so concerned that they got the two leading lights of SAEN for the picture! SAEN making a fuss over nothing as usual... yawn[/p][/quote]"Leading lights of SAEN" Is it not Mr Beans brother on the right? beaulocks
  • Score: 0

6:24pm Sat 3 May 14

keepitreal says...

Do we give a monkeys about a proxy poncy golf club were the privileged chase a small ball or 4000 jobs. If you are that worried move to ballads gore
Do we give a monkeys about a proxy poncy golf club were the privileged chase a small ball or 4000 jobs. If you are that worried move to ballads gore keepitreal
  • Score: -10

6:36pm Sat 3 May 14

the25man says...

They are missing another way of trying to stop improvement that is the newt brigade, but then with a bit of flooding it would help the newts
They are missing another way of trying to stop improvement that is the newt brigade, but then with a bit of flooding it would help the newts the25man
  • Score: -2

7:10pm Sat 3 May 14

beaulocks says...

keepitreal wrote:
Do we give a monkeys about a proxy poncy golf club were the privileged chase a small ball or 4000 jobs. If you are that worried move to ballads gore
Far to modern for the average member of Rochford hundred.

This lot need a short course.

Ballards would have to treble the amount of buggys they have now.
[quote][p][bold]keepitreal[/bold] wrote: Do we give a monkeys about a proxy poncy golf club were the privileged chase a small ball or 4000 jobs. If you are that worried move to ballads gore[/p][/quote]Far to modern for the average member of Rochford hundred. This lot need a short course. Ballards would have to treble the amount of buggys they have now. beaulocks
  • Score: -2

7:13pm Sat 3 May 14

beaulocks says...

Thorpe bay on the other hand could suit everyone all round.

Nice short course with plenty of buggies as they have been dealing with the OAP market for years.
Thorpe bay on the other hand could suit everyone all round. Nice short course with plenty of buggies as they have been dealing with the OAP market for years. beaulocks
  • Score: -3

7:33pm Sat 3 May 14

Father Jack Hackett says...

The airport will be carrying out a risk assessment, and if that shows flooding risk increases then they won't be allowed to do it. If they are allowed to do it then there will be no additional flood risk. Even David Lister, operations director at Southend Airport said they would need to demonstrate that the development would be safe and not increase flood risk to others. Where is the problem.
The airport will be carrying out a risk assessment, and if that shows flooding risk increases then they won't be allowed to do it. If they are allowed to do it then there will be no additional flood risk. Even David Lister, operations director at Southend Airport said they would need to demonstrate that the development would be safe and not increase flood risk to others. Where is the problem. Father Jack Hackett
  • Score: 2

8:48pm Sat 3 May 14

beaulocks says...

As big and clever as the stobart group are I really think they missed a simple trick to progress things a hell of a lot quicker where the council are concerned.

I mean you would get the council on board wouldn't you?

The main man at the top on your side fighting your corner so he wants this as much as you.

Philip miller is very approachable so I can't believe they haven't offered him 10% of the company.

They would be doing flights to Bangkok and Vegas by now if they had used their savvy.
As big and clever as the stobart group are I really think they missed a simple trick to progress things a hell of a lot quicker where the council are concerned. I mean you would get the council on board wouldn't you? The main man at the top on your side fighting your corner so he wants this as much as you. Philip miller is very approachable so I can't believe they haven't offered him 10% of the company. They would be doing flights to Bangkok and Vegas by now if they had used their savvy. beaulocks
  • Score: -12

8:50pm Sat 3 May 14

jolllyboy says...

The airport is on a flood risk anyway. As that was considered acceptable anything goes chum.
We knew it would only be a question of time before the golf course would get worried. Surprised there no councillors as members that would allay their fears !
As to their members being bothered by the noise pity they didnt think of us in leigh being bothered with the noise, not being able to hold a conversation in our own gardens when EasyJet goes over. I have no prob with the other planes just Easy Jet.
The airport is on a flood risk anyway. As that was considered acceptable anything goes chum. We knew it would only be a question of time before the golf course would get worried. Surprised there no councillors as members that would allay their fears ! As to their members being bothered by the noise pity they didnt think of us in leigh being bothered with the noise, not being able to hold a conversation in our own gardens when EasyJet goes over. I have no prob with the other planes just Easy Jet. jolllyboy
  • Score: 3

9:05pm Sat 3 May 14

beaulocks says...

jolllyboy wrote:
The airport is on a flood risk anyway. As that was considered acceptable anything goes chum.
We knew it would only be a question of time before the golf course would get worried. Surprised there no councillors as members that would allay their fears !
As to their members being bothered by the noise pity they didnt think of us in leigh being bothered with the noise, not being able to hold a conversation in our own gardens when EasyJet goes over. I have no prob with the other planes just Easy Jet.
Is this not racism against the colour orange?
[quote][p][bold]jolllyboy[/bold] wrote: The airport is on a flood risk anyway. As that was considered acceptable anything goes chum. We knew it would only be a question of time before the golf course would get worried. Surprised there no councillors as members that would allay their fears ! As to their members being bothered by the noise pity they didnt think of us in leigh being bothered with the noise, not being able to hold a conversation in our own gardens when EasyJet goes over. I have no prob with the other planes just Easy Jet.[/p][/quote]Is this not racism against the colour orange? beaulocks
  • Score: -1

11:52pm Sat 3 May 14

costa-del-blowfly says...

jolllyboy wrote:
The airport is on a flood risk anyway. As that was considered acceptable anything goes chum.
We knew it would only be a question of time before the golf course would get worried. Surprised there no councillors as members that would allay their fears !
As to their members being bothered by the noise pity they didnt think of us in leigh being bothered with the noise, not being able to hold a conversation in our own gardens when EasyJet goes over. I have no prob with the other planes just Easy Jet.
"We knew it would only be a question of time before the golf course would get worried"

So as someone who as been a regular commentator on anything airport related, can you provide us with a link to a comment where you have made reference to potential issues with Rochford Golf Club?
[quote][p][bold]jolllyboy[/bold] wrote: The airport is on a flood risk anyway. As that was considered acceptable anything goes chum. We knew it would only be a question of time before the golf course would get worried. Surprised there no councillors as members that would allay their fears ! As to their members being bothered by the noise pity they didnt think of us in leigh being bothered with the noise, not being able to hold a conversation in our own gardens when EasyJet goes over. I have no prob with the other planes just Easy Jet.[/p][/quote]"We knew it would only be a question of time before the golf course would get worried" So as someone who as been a regular commentator on anything airport related, can you provide us with a link to a comment where you have made reference to potential issues with Rochford Golf Club? costa-del-blowfly
  • Score: -1

8:26am Sun 4 May 14

beaulocks says...

jolllyboy wrote:
The airport is on a flood risk anyway. As that was considered acceptable anything goes chum.
We knew it would only be a question of time before the golf course would get worried. Surprised there no councillors as members that would allay their fears !
As to their members being bothered by the noise pity they didnt think of us in leigh being bothered with the noise, not being able to hold a conversation in our own gardens when EasyJet goes over. I have no prob with the other planes just Easy Jet.
Jollyboy

The original Leigh Pudding.
[quote][p][bold]jolllyboy[/bold] wrote: The airport is on a flood risk anyway. As that was considered acceptable anything goes chum. We knew it would only be a question of time before the golf course would get worried. Surprised there no councillors as members that would allay their fears ! As to their members being bothered by the noise pity they didnt think of us in leigh being bothered with the noise, not being able to hold a conversation in our own gardens when EasyJet goes over. I have no prob with the other planes just Easy Jet.[/p][/quote]Jollyboy The original Leigh Pudding. beaulocks
  • Score: -3

9:47am Sun 4 May 14

Southend Andy says...

If in doubt blame Southend Airport. What next saen going to blame Southend Airport for flooding in Botswana! All you ever do is blamethe airport.
If in doubt blame Southend Airport. What next saen going to blame Southend Airport for flooding in Botswana! All you ever do is blamethe airport. Southend Andy
  • Score: -5

10:06am Sun 4 May 14

Nebs says...

Southend Andy wrote:
If in doubt blame Southend Airport. What next saen going to blame Southend Airport for flooding in Botswana! All you ever do is blamethe airport.
There won't be any doubt, as the flood risk assessment will have to show no additional flood risk to the area from the proposed development.

I think you would have more credibility if you refuted their arguments with facts rather than insults.
[quote][p][bold]Southend Andy[/bold] wrote: If in doubt blame Southend Airport. What next saen going to blame Southend Airport for flooding in Botswana! All you ever do is blamethe airport.[/p][/quote]There won't be any doubt, as the flood risk assessment will have to show no additional flood risk to the area from the proposed development. I think you would have more credibility if you refuted their arguments with facts rather than insults. Nebs
  • Score: 7

12:36pm Sun 4 May 14

pembury53 says...

4000 jobs.... whoever came up with that c**p should be held fully accountable when they don't materialise, since it's an obvious lie, attempting to win over 'locals' for the expansion.......
4000 jobs.... whoever came up with that c**p should be held fully accountable when they don't materialise, since it's an obvious lie, attempting to win over 'locals' for the expansion....... pembury53
  • Score: 14

12:56pm Sun 4 May 14

Thames Gateway says...

Nebs said: "I think you would have more credibility if you refuted their arguments with facts rather than insults."

I agree. Perhaps SAEN/FOTE and the Golf Course could follow this advice too. I don't see any hard facts from them, just usual scaremongering claptrap from JF. Fact is the golf-course has been liable to flooding for a very long time, and it is a not infrequent event (in flooding terms) either in the past, or in the future no doubt.

It does help if the Environment Agency and landowners maintain the waterways function as a priority, and as pointed out, any developments would need to be cognisant of this requirement.
Nebs said: "I think you would have more credibility if you refuted their arguments with facts rather than insults." I agree. Perhaps SAEN/FOTE and the Golf Course could follow this advice too. I don't see any hard facts from them, just usual scaremongering claptrap from JF. Fact is the golf-course has been liable to flooding for a very long time, and it is a not infrequent event (in flooding terms) either in the past, or in the future no doubt. It does help if the Environment Agency and landowners maintain the waterways function as a priority, and as pointed out, any developments would need to be cognisant of this requirement. Thames Gateway
  • Score: -3

1:17pm Sun 4 May 14

colsmith says...

Wonderful news these stuck up, pretentious, tossers are worried. Golf has got to be the most boring, snob attracting game on this planet. I hope my life extends long enough to see that particular golf course concreted.....
Wonderful news these stuck up, pretentious, tossers are worried. Golf has got to be the most boring, snob attracting game on this planet. I hope my life extends long enough to see that particular golf course concreted..... colsmith
  • Score: -14

4:42pm Sun 4 May 14

John Bull 40 says...

The anti airport brigade are fully mobilised, judging by the thumbs down they
must have an alert system in operation. I wonder how many I will get.
The anti airport brigade are fully mobilised, judging by the thumbs down they must have an alert system in operation. I wonder how many I will get. John Bull 40
  • Score: -2

7:17pm Sun 4 May 14

Nowthatsworthknowing says...

Wouldn't it be fab, to build an extra long runway, using the golf club space, to build on, imagine 747's and destinations to America..
Wouldn't it be fab, to build an extra long runway, using the golf club space, to build on, imagine 747's and destinations to America.. Nowthatsworthknowing
  • Score: -14

7:46pm Sun 4 May 14

beaulocks says...

colsmith wrote:
Wonderful news these stuck up, pretentious, tossers are worried. Golf has got to be the most boring, snob attracting game on this planet. I hope my life extends long enough to see that particular golf course concreted.....
Golf is certainly not a boring game.

I admit however,that there is some very boring golf clubs here in the south east. Ripe for development.
[quote][p][bold]colsmith[/bold] wrote: Wonderful news these stuck up, pretentious, tossers are worried. Golf has got to be the most boring, snob attracting game on this planet. I hope my life extends long enough to see that particular golf course concreted.....[/p][/quote]Golf is certainly not a boring game. I admit however,that there is some very boring golf clubs here in the south east. Ripe for development. beaulocks
  • Score: 3

8:11pm Sun 4 May 14

sesibollox says...

colsmith wrote:
Wonderful news these stuck up, pretentious, tossers are worried. Golf has got to be the most boring, snob attracting game on this planet. I hope my life extends long enough to see that particular golf course concreted.....
What I love about goff is the fact I play during the week, when most are at work, I dress in the traditional style, plus fours, hip flasks at noon, why ? because as a powerful Landlord, it's my right..
[quote][p][bold]colsmith[/bold] wrote: Wonderful news these stuck up, pretentious, tossers are worried. Golf has got to be the most boring, snob attracting game on this planet. I hope my life extends long enough to see that particular golf course concreted.....[/p][/quote]What I love about goff is the fact I play during the week, when most are at work, I dress in the traditional style, plus fours, hip flasks at noon, why ? because as a powerful Landlord, it's my right.. sesibollox
  • Score: 1

8:37pm Sun 4 May 14

beaulocks says...

sesibollox wrote:
colsmith wrote:
Wonderful news these stuck up, pretentious, tossers are worried. Golf has got to be the most boring, snob attracting game on this planet. I hope my life extends long enough to see that particular golf course concreted.....
What I love about goff is the fact I play during the week, when most are at work, I dress in the traditional style, plus fours, hip flasks at noon, why ? because as a powerful Landlord, it's my right..
Good for you

If you've earned it, enjoy it.

If your over 70 may I recommend Rochford hundred or Thorpe bay.
[quote][p][bold]sesibollox[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]colsmith[/bold] wrote: Wonderful news these stuck up, pretentious, tossers are worried. Golf has got to be the most boring, snob attracting game on this planet. I hope my life extends long enough to see that particular golf course concreted.....[/p][/quote]What I love about goff is the fact I play during the week, when most are at work, I dress in the traditional style, plus fours, hip flasks at noon, why ? because as a powerful Landlord, it's my right..[/p][/quote]Good for you If you've earned it, enjoy it. If your over 70 may I recommend Rochford hundred or Thorpe bay. beaulocks
  • Score: 2

11:28pm Sun 4 May 14

LoopyLou88 says...

Ah well would have been used for houses eventually anyways any spare bit of land the council can find they are just like wanting to build on it.
Ah well would have been used for houses eventually anyways any spare bit of land the council can find they are just like wanting to build on it. LoopyLou88
  • Score: -1

10:33am Mon 5 May 14

jayman says...

keepitreal wrote:
Do we give a monkeys about a proxy poncy golf club were the privileged chase a small ball or 4000 jobs. If you are that worried move to ballads gore
but don't you live in Barling.
[quote][p][bold]keepitreal[/bold] wrote: Do we give a monkeys about a proxy poncy golf club were the privileged chase a small ball or 4000 jobs. If you are that worried move to ballads gore[/p][/quote]but don't you live in Barling. jayman
  • Score: 3

10:40am Mon 5 May 14

jayman says...

I think the airport has reached its limit of exploitation now! if Stobart cant demonstrate a viable profit by now, why should they be given any more land or treasure.
I think the airport has reached its limit of exploitation now! if Stobart cant demonstrate a viable profit by now, why should they be given any more land or treasure. jayman
  • Score: 14

7:04pm Mon 5 May 14

beaulocks says...

jayman wrote:
I think the airport has reached its limit of exploitation now! if Stobart cant demonstrate a viable profit by now, why should they be given any more land or treasure.
Terrible attitude, this country would be at a stand still if we all had this sort of education.

It will work eventually, keep plugging away.
[quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: I think the airport has reached its limit of exploitation now! if Stobart cant demonstrate a viable profit by now, why should they be given any more land or treasure.[/p][/quote]Terrible attitude, this country would be at a stand still if we all had this sort of education. It will work eventually, keep plugging away. beaulocks
  • Score: -2

11:28pm Mon 5 May 14

Joe Clark says...

People expect things to happen overnight, even heard some numpty say the City Beach & Victoria Gateway developments could have been completed in ONE night, it is the same type people who today are moaning about the airport and expecting it to show a profit within seconds of it being completed these people have no sense of reality or the economics involved in the association of long term investments.

The Antis are the one's who moan when nothing happens but are the ones who moan the most when something is done, they are the laughing stock of a town but are the ones who bring a town down.
People expect things to happen overnight, even heard some numpty say the City Beach & Victoria Gateway developments could have been completed in ONE night, it is the same type people who today are moaning about the airport and expecting it to show a profit within seconds of it being completed these people have no sense of reality or the economics involved in the association of long term investments. The Antis are the one's who moan when nothing happens but are the ones who moan the most when something is done, they are the laughing stock of a town but are the ones who bring a town down. Joe Clark
  • Score: 1

11:49pm Mon 5 May 14

jayman says...

Joe Clark wrote:
People expect things to happen overnight, even heard some numpty say the City Beach & Victoria Gateway developments could have been completed in ONE night, it is the same type people who today are moaning about the airport and expecting it to show a profit within seconds of it being completed these people have no sense of reality or the economics involved in the association of long term investments.

The Antis are the one's who moan when nothing happens but are the ones who moan the most when something is done, they are the laughing stock of a town but are the ones who bring a town down.
no. i think Southend's Tory council are the laughing stock..

Victoria junction (replaced free flowing roundabout) does not work at times of high traffic flow, does not support multi directional travel.

Borough beach (city) overly expensive, has already flooded, share space is a general failure as per Hans Monderman's definition.

many other epic failures that are well documented, came at great expense and are always touted by the Tory council as part of an election winning drive which lack any architectural longevity or 'basic common sense' credentials..

Southend airport. given to Stobart for a pound coin for 150 years with a wafer thin 106 agreement, laughable public consultation and highly questionable, public official involvement and influence. has been running at loss since. Has not paid any rent to date. generates unrealistic job creation projections. almost automatically gains any compulsory purchase order it desires. receives unparalleled Tory council support...

Is that okay for you joe?
[quote][p][bold]Joe Clark[/bold] wrote: People expect things to happen overnight, even heard some numpty say the City Beach & Victoria Gateway developments could have been completed in ONE night, it is the same type people who today are moaning about the airport and expecting it to show a profit within seconds of it being completed these people have no sense of reality or the economics involved in the association of long term investments. The Antis are the one's who moan when nothing happens but are the ones who moan the most when something is done, they are the laughing stock of a town but are the ones who bring a town down.[/p][/quote]no. i think Southend's Tory council are the laughing stock.. Victoria junction (replaced free flowing roundabout) does not work at times of high traffic flow, does not support multi directional travel. Borough beach (city) overly expensive, has already flooded, share space is a general failure as per Hans Monderman's definition. many other epic failures that are well documented, came at great expense and are always touted by the Tory council as part of an election winning drive which lack any architectural longevity or 'basic common sense' credentials.. Southend airport. given to Stobart for a pound coin for 150 years with a wafer thin 106 agreement, laughable public consultation and highly questionable, public official involvement and influence. has been running at loss since. Has not paid any rent to date. generates unrealistic job creation projections. almost automatically gains any compulsory purchase order it desires. receives unparalleled Tory council support... Is that okay for you joe? jayman
  • Score: 4

10:50am Tue 6 May 14

pembury53 says...

jayman wrote:
Joe Clark wrote: People expect things to happen overnight, even heard some numpty say the City Beach & Victoria Gateway developments could have been completed in ONE night, it is the same type people who today are moaning about the airport and expecting it to show a profit within seconds of it being completed these people have no sense of reality or the economics involved in the association of long term investments. The Antis are the one's who moan when nothing happens but are the ones who moan the most when something is done, they are the laughing stock of a town but are the ones who bring a town down.
no. i think Southend's Tory council are the laughing stock.. Victoria junction (replaced free flowing roundabout) does not work at times of high traffic flow, does not support multi directional travel. Borough beach (city) overly expensive, has already flooded, share space is a general failure as per Hans Monderman's definition. many other epic failures that are well documented, came at great expense and are always touted by the Tory council as part of an election winning drive which lack any architectural longevity or 'basic common sense' credentials.. Southend airport. given to Stobart for a pound coin for 150 years with a wafer thin 106 agreement, laughable public consultation and highly questionable, public official involvement and influence. has been running at loss since. Has not paid any rent to date. generates unrealistic job creation projections. almost automatically gains any compulsory purchase order it desires. receives unparalleled Tory council support... Is that okay for you joe?
joe is easily pleased jayman..... give him a plastic paddling pool and he's happy as a pig in a poke...
[quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joe Clark[/bold] wrote: People expect things to happen overnight, even heard some numpty say the City Beach & Victoria Gateway developments could have been completed in ONE night, it is the same type people who today are moaning about the airport and expecting it to show a profit within seconds of it being completed these people have no sense of reality or the economics involved in the association of long term investments. The Antis are the one's who moan when nothing happens but are the ones who moan the most when something is done, they are the laughing stock of a town but are the ones who bring a town down.[/p][/quote]no. i think Southend's Tory council are the laughing stock.. Victoria junction (replaced free flowing roundabout) does not work at times of high traffic flow, does not support multi directional travel. Borough beach (city) overly expensive, has already flooded, share space is a general failure as per Hans Monderman's definition. many other epic failures that are well documented, came at great expense and are always touted by the Tory council as part of an election winning drive which lack any architectural longevity or 'basic common sense' credentials.. Southend airport. given to Stobart for a pound coin for 150 years with a wafer thin 106 agreement, laughable public consultation and highly questionable, public official involvement and influence. has been running at loss since. Has not paid any rent to date. generates unrealistic job creation projections. almost automatically gains any compulsory purchase order it desires. receives unparalleled Tory council support... Is that okay for you joe?[/p][/quote]joe is easily pleased jayman..... give him a plastic paddling pool and he's happy as a pig in a poke... pembury53
  • Score: 1

10:38pm Wed 7 May 14

Leigh buoy says...

Flooded with de-icer?
Flooded with de-icer? Leigh buoy
  • Score: 2

8:36am Thu 8 May 14

a127scamera says...

has always had flood issues for as long as I can remember, it does have a river running through it and guess what...rivers flood in times of high rainfall/tides etc. On passing in train, it was not 'count the Birdies', rather 'count the DUCKS' on one of the greens (sorry lakes)
has always had flood issues for as long as I can remember, it does have a river running through it and guess what...rivers flood in times of high rainfall/tides etc. On passing in train, it was not 'count the Birdies', rather 'count the DUCKS' on one of the greens (sorry lakes) a127scamera
  • Score: 1

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