Pickles: I love having our street lights off

Southend Standard: Pickles: I love having our street lights off Pickles: I love having our street lights off

ERIC Pickles has dismissed calls to switch Basildon’s street lights back on, saying he wouldn’t do it “on the off chance someone wants to get out and do aerobics at 3am.”

The Secretary of State for Communities and Local Government was attacked by councillors from his own party over his comments about the controversial part-night lighting scheme, which involves street lights being turned off between midnight and 5am.

They were made as he launched the Conservative Party’s election campaign for Basildon Council on Friday.

Mr Pickles, MP for Brentwood and Ongar, said: “Essex County Council has been immensely brave because the easy thing would be to keep the lights on.

“In a time when we are on the cusp with regards to our electricity supply, we can’t have lights burning all night on the off chance someone wants to get out and do aerobics at 3am.

“I love it because I am economy- minded. It’s saving a phenomenal amount of money, it’s decreased crime because burglars love ambient lighting, it’s nice to see the night sky and, as someone who lives in a main street that has had its lights cut off, I can get a good night’s sleep.”

Questioned about the high number of shift workers in Basildon who come and go during the night, Mr Pickles said: “I don’t believe that someone who is working in shifts is scared to go out because there’s no light.

We have moved on a bit in the world. It makes a nice story, but the reality is people get on with their lives.”

A split has emerged in the party as local politicians oppose the street light switch off.

John Dornan, Basildon Tory councillor responsible for environment, has been lobbying Essex County Council to switch the lights back on.

He said: “We will have to agree to disagree. Being on the ground, we absolutely know we have the pulse rate right for Basildon and people want the lights back on.

“We have part of the Thames Gateway business hub here, taxi drivers are coming to me saying they are scared to go on to estates with the lights off or are worried about not being able to see addresses.

“Businesses in Basildon are the lifeblood of this town and we need to take action. The fight is not over.”

Basildon Council leader Tony Ball, who represents Wickford North, said: “I wouldn’t say it was a brave thing to do, I would say it was a courageous thing to do. We need to keep the lights on in the right areas. Perception of crime has increased. We will work with Essex County Council in areas where we can prove they need to be on.”

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8:33am Tue 29 Apr 14

Bfrosty85 says...

Mr pickles is a complete dummy! He may feel safe in his countryside home with gates securing his house. Most burglaries happen during the day and not at night. How about robbery, vehicle crime and theft offences. Mr pickles, cllr bass and the rest of the doo gooders who feel they know what's best need to open their eyes and come and speak to residents inn built up towns. The reason this was not tested in basildon or Southend is they knew rspesuots would be different.

A complete joke of a council
Mr pickles is a complete dummy! He may feel safe in his countryside home with gates securing his house. Most burglaries happen during the day and not at night. How about robbery, vehicle crime and theft offences. Mr pickles, cllr bass and the rest of the doo gooders who feel they know what's best need to open their eyes and come and speak to residents inn built up towns. The reason this was not tested in basildon or Southend is they knew rspesuots would be different. A complete joke of a council Bfrosty85
  • Score: 25

8:38am Tue 29 Apr 14

supermadmax says...

"on the off chance someone wants to get out and do aerobics" ?????

Look at the state of him, it seems alien to him that people might go jogging! If he had used another example I could except it. The guy is a disgrace, if people cant look after them selves they should not be allowed to stand as MP's or councillors. I'm not saying its about looks, I'm simply requesting that they fit into the overweight category on the BMI scale , this guy is obese and its not on. They should be promoting healthy living not mocking people who go jogging at night @ least they are not out mugging people.
"on the off chance someone wants to get out and do aerobics" ????? Look at the state of him, it seems alien to him that people might go jogging! If he had used another example I could except it. The guy is a disgrace, if people cant look after them selves they should not be allowed to stand as MP's or councillors. I'm not saying its about looks, I'm simply requesting that they fit into the overweight category on the BMI scale , this guy is obese and its not on. They should be promoting healthy living not mocking people who go jogging at night @ least they are not out mugging people. supermadmax
  • Score: 23

8:52am Tue 29 Apr 14

profondo asbo says...

eric pickles - ukip's secret weapon.
eric pickles - ukip's secret weapon. profondo asbo
  • Score: 24

9:20am Tue 29 Apr 14

whateverhappened says...

I wonder how many people are really effected by this switch off... not many i reckon, most people i speak to don't even know it happens.
I wonder how many people are really effected by this switch off... not many i reckon, most people i speak to don't even know it happens. whateverhappened
  • Score: -10

9:32am Tue 29 Apr 14

Bfrosty85 says...

If you are a shift worker then this does affect you. This is the conservatives all over. We have avert rich council ..... The fact is the group of people who made this decision are out of touch with the public.
If you are a shift worker then this does affect you. This is the conservatives all over. We have avert rich council ..... The fact is the group of people who made this decision are out of touch with the public. Bfrosty85
  • Score: 21

10:10am Tue 29 Apr 14

sesibollox says...

I love the pitch dark
I love the pitch dark sesibollox
  • Score: -6

10:15am Tue 29 Apr 14

Howard Cháse says...

Does Big Eric live in Basildon then?
Does Big Eric live in Basildon then? Howard Cháse
  • Score: 9

10:19am Tue 29 Apr 14

Druggie Scumbag says...

Having been unavoidably detained out of the district for a few months, imagine my concern at having alighted the train at Billericay just after midnight to find the street lights turned off. My first thought was that I was having a bad flashback to the 3 day week and associated cuts- acid was only 50p a dot in those days! I had to walk the 2 miles to my destination on unlit roads fearing that at any time I could tread in a deposit left by some Tory voter's dog. I don't blame the dogs, how can they be expected to defecate off piste as it were when the lights are out. I blame the Tory Council!
Having been unavoidably detained out of the district for a few months, imagine my concern at having alighted the train at Billericay just after midnight to find the street lights turned off. My first thought was that I was having a bad flashback to the 3 day week and associated cuts- acid was only 50p a dot in those days! I had to walk the 2 miles to my destination on unlit roads fearing that at any time I could tread in a deposit left by some Tory voter's dog. I don't blame the dogs, how can they be expected to defecate off piste as it were when the lights are out. I blame the Tory Council! Druggie Scumbag
  • Score: 6

10:32am Tue 29 Apr 14

Abington86 says...

Glad that our local council is singing from the same hymn sheets as a government minister!

John Dornan - what a fool - clearly in a marginal seat and as for Tony Ball -not a brave thing to do but a courageous thing to do.

Words fail me.
Glad that our local council is singing from the same hymn sheets as a government minister! John Dornan - what a fool - clearly in a marginal seat and as for Tony Ball -not a brave thing to do but a courageous thing to do. Words fail me. Abington86
  • Score: -1

10:42am Tue 29 Apr 14

Discouraged says...

Looking at the picture of these four men I can see an argument for darkness.
Looking at the picture of these four men I can see an argument for darkness. Discouraged
  • Score: 20

10:59am Tue 29 Apr 14

dhd says...

I know the ambulance service is having problems as they can't see house numbers also they are tripping up kerbs in the dark.
I know the ambulance service is having problems as they can't see house numbers also they are tripping up kerbs in the dark. dhd
  • Score: 14

10:59am Tue 29 Apr 14

Rayleigh mum says...

Mr Pickles says “I love it because I am economy- minded. It’s saving a phenomenal amount of money,

Well Mr Pickles, how long before it starts saving money? It cost a reported £6million to put the switches on all the lamp posts in Essex that are affected, so just how much have we saved so far? diddly-squit! I am glad Mr Pickles is not doing my home accounts............
Mr Pickles says “I love it because I am economy- minded. It’s saving a phenomenal amount of money, Well Mr Pickles, how long before it starts saving money? It cost a reported £6million to put the switches on all the lamp posts in Essex that are affected, so just how much have we saved so far? diddly-squit! I am glad Mr Pickles is not doing my home accounts............ Rayleigh mum
  • Score: 13

11:05am Tue 29 Apr 14

Jack222 says...

I never thought I'd say I agree with Eric Pickles but I do.

WE live in a time of austerity and turning off streetlights saves heaps; am I the only one actually paying full council tax?
I never thought I'd say I agree with Eric Pickles but I do. WE live in a time of austerity and turning off streetlights saves heaps; am I the only one actually paying full council tax? Jack222
  • Score: -14

11:09am Tue 29 Apr 14

bazza 1 says...

sesibollox wrote:
I love the pitch dark
You might not be so happy if a yob breaks into your car or shed or house under cover of the pitch dark. It's great for stargazers, and thieves alike. Not so good if you want to see where the hell you are going, and avoiding the unpaired pavements and potholes.
[quote][p][bold]sesibollox[/bold] wrote: I love the pitch dark[/p][/quote]You might not be so happy if a yob breaks into your car or shed or house under cover of the pitch dark. It's great for stargazers, and thieves alike. Not so good if you want to see where the hell you are going, and avoiding the unpaired pavements and potholes. bazza 1
  • Score: 11

11:13am Tue 29 Apr 14

bazza 1 says...

Jack222 wrote:
I never thought I'd say I agree with Eric Pickles but I do.

WE live in a time of austerity and turning off streetlights saves heaps; am I the only one actually paying full council tax?
No you are NOT the only one paying full council tax, and if you check the figures, it saves sod all. The lights will have to be off for about seven years just to recoup the cost of the work involved in turning them off. ECC is run by a bunch of fools, and Pickles fits in well with them. I just pray the people who voted the imbeciles into office in the first place do the right thing and kick them out at the next election.
[quote][p][bold]Jack222[/bold] wrote: I never thought I'd say I agree with Eric Pickles but I do. WE live in a time of austerity and turning off streetlights saves heaps; am I the only one actually paying full council tax?[/p][/quote]No you are NOT the only one paying full council tax, and if you check the figures, it saves sod all. The lights will have to be off for about seven years just to recoup the cost of the work involved in turning them off. ECC is run by a bunch of fools, and Pickles fits in well with them. I just pray the people who voted the imbeciles into office in the first place do the right thing and kick them out at the next election. bazza 1
  • Score: 14

11:22am Tue 29 Apr 14

Abington86 says...

I see that our beloved Mayor was not at the meeting.

Presumably hidden away in case she disgraced us again.
I see that our beloved Mayor was not at the meeting. Presumably hidden away in case she disgraced us again. Abington86
  • Score: 1

11:47am Tue 29 Apr 14

Howard Cháse says...

Abington86 wrote:
I see that our beloved Mayor was not at the meeting.

Presumably hidden away in case she disgraced us again.
She might have been standing behind the bucket of lard......
[quote][p][bold]Abington86[/bold] wrote: I see that our beloved Mayor was not at the meeting. Presumably hidden away in case she disgraced us again.[/p][/quote]She might have been standing behind the bucket of lard...... Howard Cháse
  • Score: 11

12:27pm Tue 29 Apr 14

margrete says...

I'm no great admirer of Eric Pickles, but I do agree with this. We've had a street lamp right opposite this bungalow on the Anne Boleyn estate and I could never see the reason why it had to be on all the hours of darkness. It's nice to be able to see the night sky and to have darkness outside our windows between midnight and 5 am. We recently went out very early (for the Easter Sunday dawn service at church) and it wasn't any hardship to step outside the door. There's an approach-lit light outside our front door and the car has got headlights! We had no problem. I grew up in a village long before street lights were even thought of.
I'm no great admirer of Eric Pickles, but I do agree with this. We've had a street lamp right opposite this bungalow on the Anne Boleyn estate and I could never see the reason why it had to be on all the hours of darkness. It's nice to be able to see the night sky and to have darkness outside our windows between midnight and 5 am. We recently went out very early (for the Easter Sunday dawn service at church) and it wasn't any hardship to step outside the door. There's an approach-lit light outside our front door and the car has got headlights! We had no problem. I grew up in a village long before street lights were even thought of. margrete
  • Score: -7

12:38pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Druggie Scumbag says...

Congratulations Margrete! You are surely the last survivor of the 18th Century.
Congratulations Margrete! You are surely the last survivor of the 18th Century. Druggie Scumbag
  • Score: 6

12:38pm Tue 29 Apr 14

iknowbetter says...

The other option is to take away another service in attempts to save money.
Lets face the facts, no one knows if crime has risen due to the light switch off, in fact all indications are crime has dropped, according to Essex police crime figures.
I've not heard of one incident where some one has hurt themselves falling over a pothole in the dark after midnight,
Ambulance staff have torches and spot lights on their ambulances, which is payed for by the tax payer already so why dont they use them? or do what they do in the country side because those area's dont have street lights and ambulance staff manage quite alright there.
People that constantly moan about no street lighting should understand the facts before winging about something so trivial, they may just find that another important service has to be sacrificed just so they can have the street lights back on, I'm sure the same moaners will still moan about that. get a life and adapt as the majority of people have.
The other option is to take away another service in attempts to save money. Lets face the facts, no one knows if crime has risen due to the light switch off, in fact all indications are crime has dropped, according to Essex police crime figures. I've not heard of one incident where some one has hurt themselves falling over a pothole in the dark after midnight, Ambulance staff have torches and spot lights on their ambulances, which is payed for by the tax payer already so why dont they use them? or do what they do in the country side because those area's dont have street lights and ambulance staff manage quite alright there. People that constantly moan about no street lighting should understand the facts before winging about something so trivial, they may just find that another important service has to be sacrificed just so they can have the street lights back on, I'm sure the same moaners will still moan about that. get a life and adapt as the majority of people have. iknowbetter
  • Score: -11

2:28pm Tue 29 Apr 14

whateverhappened says...

sesibollox wrote:
I love the pitch dark
Really....you probably have to sleep with light on.
[quote][p][bold]sesibollox[/bold] wrote: I love the pitch dark[/p][/quote]Really....you probably have to sleep with light on. whateverhappened
  • Score: 4

2:29pm Tue 29 Apr 14

whateverhappened says...

Bfrosty85 wrote:
If you are a shift worker then this does affect you. This is the conservatives all over. We have avert rich council ..... The fact is the group of people who made this decision are out of touch with the public.
I am and it doesn't
[quote][p][bold]Bfrosty85[/bold] wrote: If you are a shift worker then this does affect you. This is the conservatives all over. We have avert rich council ..... The fact is the group of people who made this decision are out of touch with the public.[/p][/quote]I am and it doesn't whateverhappened
  • Score: -8

2:40pm Tue 29 Apr 14

iknowbetter says...

whateverhappened wrote:
Bfrosty85 wrote:
If you are a shift worker then this does affect you. This is the conservatives all over. We have avert rich council ..... The fact is the group of people who made this decision are out of touch with the public.
I am and it doesn't
My job also means I'm out till 3am and having no street lighting has no adverse effect on me neither. While it may be a minor inconvenience for some having no street lights is far better then having to cut another public service which many people may rely on.
[quote][p][bold]whateverhappened[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bfrosty85[/bold] wrote: If you are a shift worker then this does affect you. This is the conservatives all over. We have avert rich council ..... The fact is the group of people who made this decision are out of touch with the public.[/p][/quote]I am and it doesn't[/p][/quote]My job also means I'm out till 3am and having no street lighting has no adverse effect on me neither. While it may be a minor inconvenience for some having no street lights is far better then having to cut another public service which many people may rely on. iknowbetter
  • Score: -3

2:46pm Tue 29 Apr 14

cg1blue says...

margrete wrote:
I'm no great admirer of Eric Pickles, but I do agree with this. We've had a street lamp right opposite this bungalow on the Anne Boleyn estate and I could never see the reason why it had to be on all the hours of darkness. It's nice to be able to see the night sky and to have darkness outside our windows between midnight and 5 am. We recently went out very early (for the Easter Sunday dawn service at church) and it wasn't any hardship to step outside the door. There's an approach-lit light outside our front door and the car has got headlights! We had no problem. I grew up in a village long before street lights were even thought of.
Try walking through the unlit streets of Basildon after finishing a 1am shift. That might just open your eyes (actually, you might close your eyes in fear).

It's not about nice safe areas like yours.
[quote][p][bold]margrete[/bold] wrote: I'm no great admirer of Eric Pickles, but I do agree with this. We've had a street lamp right opposite this bungalow on the Anne Boleyn estate and I could never see the reason why it had to be on all the hours of darkness. It's nice to be able to see the night sky and to have darkness outside our windows between midnight and 5 am. We recently went out very early (for the Easter Sunday dawn service at church) and it wasn't any hardship to step outside the door. There's an approach-lit light outside our front door and the car has got headlights! We had no problem. I grew up in a village long before street lights were even thought of.[/p][/quote]Try walking through the unlit streets of Basildon after finishing a 1am shift. That might just open your eyes (actually, you might close your eyes in fear). It's not about nice safe areas like yours. cg1blue
  • Score: 12

3:14pm Tue 29 Apr 14

iknowbetter says...

cg1blue wrote:
margrete wrote:
I'm no great admirer of Eric Pickles, but I do agree with this. We've had a street lamp right opposite this bungalow on the Anne Boleyn estate and I could never see the reason why it had to be on all the hours of darkness. It's nice to be able to see the night sky and to have darkness outside our windows between midnight and 5 am. We recently went out very early (for the Easter Sunday dawn service at church) and it wasn't any hardship to step outside the door. There's an approach-lit light outside our front door and the car has got headlights! We had no problem. I grew up in a village long before street lights were even thought of.
Try walking through the unlit streets of Basildon after finishing a 1am shift. That might just open your eyes (actually, you might close your eyes in fear).

It's not about nice safe areas like yours.
Walking the streets of Basildon at anytime day or night is an experience all of its own, but just because you decided to live in an area you feel unsafe in dosnt mean people have to agree with the moaners that want the lights back on. F.Y.I check out the latest Police crime figures, more muggings take place during the day in Basildon then they do at night.
Getting the lights back on will just mean another service will suffer from cutbacks. On the up side Basildon is a much nicer place when you cant see it.
[quote][p][bold]cg1blue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]margrete[/bold] wrote: I'm no great admirer of Eric Pickles, but I do agree with this. We've had a street lamp right opposite this bungalow on the Anne Boleyn estate and I could never see the reason why it had to be on all the hours of darkness. It's nice to be able to see the night sky and to have darkness outside our windows between midnight and 5 am. We recently went out very early (for the Easter Sunday dawn service at church) and it wasn't any hardship to step outside the door. There's an approach-lit light outside our front door and the car has got headlights! We had no problem. I grew up in a village long before street lights were even thought of.[/p][/quote]Try walking through the unlit streets of Basildon after finishing a 1am shift. That might just open your eyes (actually, you might close your eyes in fear). It's not about nice safe areas like yours.[/p][/quote]Walking the streets of Basildon at anytime day or night is an experience all of its own, but just because you decided to live in an area you feel unsafe in dosnt mean people have to agree with the moaners that want the lights back on. F.Y.I check out the latest Police crime figures, more muggings take place during the day in Basildon then they do at night. Getting the lights back on will just mean another service will suffer from cutbacks. On the up side Basildon is a much nicer place when you cant see it. iknowbetter
  • Score: -4

4:14pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Thorp55 says...

When your son or daughter is either mugged or falls over when coming home from a night out,some of you people who agree with the switch off might change their tune.It isn't saving money, if it was perhaps they could fix the pavements.
When your son or daughter is either mugged or falls over when coming home from a night out,some of you people who agree with the switch off might change their tune.It isn't saving money, if it was perhaps they could fix the pavements. Thorp55
  • Score: 10

4:33pm Tue 29 Apr 14

poortaxpayer says...

I just get the urge to roll Eric Pickles down a hill. A large hill.
I just get the urge to roll Eric Pickles down a hill. A large hill. poortaxpayer
  • Score: 7

4:53pm Tue 29 Apr 14

TheWizzard says...

“I love it because I am economy- minded. That you can see by his waist line
“I love it because I am economy- minded. That you can see by his waist line TheWizzard
  • Score: 6

5:11pm Tue 29 Apr 14

iknowbetter says...

Thorp55 wrote:
When your son or daughter is either mugged or falls over when coming home from a night out,some of you people who agree with the switch off might change their tune.It isn't saving money, if it was perhaps they could fix the pavements.
Ok I'll report back if it ever happens, F.Y.I highways pay for road/pavement repairs not the local Council.
[quote][p][bold]Thorp55[/bold] wrote: When your son or daughter is either mugged or falls over when coming home from a night out,some of you people who agree with the switch off might change their tune.It isn't saving money, if it was perhaps they could fix the pavements.[/p][/quote]Ok I'll report back if it ever happens, F.Y.I highways pay for road/pavement repairs not the local Council. iknowbetter
  • Score: 0

5:22pm Tue 29 Apr 14

bazza 1 says...

iknowbetter wrote:
Thorp55 wrote:
When your son or daughter is either mugged or falls over when coming home from a night out,some of you people who agree with the switch off might change their tune.It isn't saving money, if it was perhaps they could fix the pavements.
Ok I'll report back if it ever happens, F.Y.I highways pay for road/pavement repairs not the local Council.
Essex County Council is responsible for road and pavement repairs.
[quote][p][bold]iknowbetter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thorp55[/bold] wrote: When your son or daughter is either mugged or falls over when coming home from a night out,some of you people who agree with the switch off might change their tune.It isn't saving money, if it was perhaps they could fix the pavements.[/p][/quote]Ok I'll report back if it ever happens, F.Y.I highways pay for road/pavement repairs not the local Council.[/p][/quote]Essex County Council is responsible for road and pavement repairs. bazza 1
  • Score: 2

5:41pm Tue 29 Apr 14

depotman says...

I challenge Mr Pickles to take a walk at 3am round Basildon and other places that have had there lights turned off
I challenge Mr Pickles to take a walk at 3am round Basildon and other places that have had there lights turned off depotman
  • Score: 12

6:05pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Living the La Vida Legra says...

Grow up people!
Grow up people! Living the La Vida Legra
  • Score: 0

6:15pm Tue 29 Apr 14

cg1blue says...

iknowbetter wrote:
cg1blue wrote:
margrete wrote: I'm no great admirer of Eric Pickles, but I do agree with this. We've had a street lamp right opposite this bungalow on the Anne Boleyn estate and I could never see the reason why it had to be on all the hours of darkness. It's nice to be able to see the night sky and to have darkness outside our windows between midnight and 5 am. We recently went out very early (for the Easter Sunday dawn service at church) and it wasn't any hardship to step outside the door. There's an approach-lit light outside our front door and the car has got headlights! We had no problem. I grew up in a village long before street lights were even thought of.
Try walking through the unlit streets of Basildon after finishing a 1am shift. That might just open your eyes (actually, you might close your eyes in fear). It's not about nice safe areas like yours.
Walking the streets of Basildon at anytime day or night is an experience all of its own, but just because you decided to live in an area you feel unsafe in dosnt mean people have to agree with the moaners that want the lights back on. F.Y.I check out the latest Police crime figures, more muggings take place during the day in Basildon then they do at night. Getting the lights back on will just mean another service will suffer from cutbacks. On the up side Basildon is a much nicer place when you cant see it.
As others have said already, the switch off has not saved any money. It has cost money to install the switches etc.

Do you have those crime figures to hand please? I mean the figures right up to March / April 2014.
[quote][p][bold]iknowbetter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cg1blue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]margrete[/bold] wrote: I'm no great admirer of Eric Pickles, but I do agree with this. We've had a street lamp right opposite this bungalow on the Anne Boleyn estate and I could never see the reason why it had to be on all the hours of darkness. It's nice to be able to see the night sky and to have darkness outside our windows between midnight and 5 am. We recently went out very early (for the Easter Sunday dawn service at church) and it wasn't any hardship to step outside the door. There's an approach-lit light outside our front door and the car has got headlights! We had no problem. I grew up in a village long before street lights were even thought of.[/p][/quote]Try walking through the unlit streets of Basildon after finishing a 1am shift. That might just open your eyes (actually, you might close your eyes in fear). It's not about nice safe areas like yours.[/p][/quote]Walking the streets of Basildon at anytime day or night is an experience all of its own, but just because you decided to live in an area you feel unsafe in dosnt mean people have to agree with the moaners that want the lights back on. F.Y.I check out the latest Police crime figures, more muggings take place during the day in Basildon then they do at night. Getting the lights back on will just mean another service will suffer from cutbacks. On the up side Basildon is a much nicer place when you cant see it.[/p][/quote]As others have said already, the switch off has not saved any money. It has cost money to install the switches etc. Do you have those crime figures to hand please? I mean the figures right up to March / April 2014. cg1blue
  • Score: 7

6:56pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Kim Gandy says...

Abington86 wrote:
Glad that our local council is singing from the same hymn sheets as a government minister!

John Dornan - what a fool - clearly in a marginal seat and as for Tony Ball -not a brave thing to do but a courageous thing to do.

Words fail me.
Are you Cllr Cockroach in a different guise?

Stay on topic if you can. You lot are having it rough right now aren't you because you're getting it from all sides - and some of you are strutting around as if you've already re taken the council.

That is not going to happen.

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"Questioned about the high number of shift workers in Basildon who come and go during the night, Mr Pickles said: “I don’t believe that someone who is working in shifts is scared to go out because there’s no light."

Shows how out of touch Pickles really is. Has he ever done shift work? I doubt it.
[quote][p][bold]Abington86[/bold] wrote: Glad that our local council is singing from the same hymn sheets as a government minister! John Dornan - what a fool - clearly in a marginal seat and as for Tony Ball -not a brave thing to do but a courageous thing to do. Words fail me.[/p][/quote]Are you Cllr Cockroach in a different guise? Stay on topic if you can. You lot are having it rough right now aren't you because you're getting it from all sides - and some of you are strutting around as if you've already re taken the council. That is not going to happen. ******************** ******************** ******************** ********* "Questioned about the high number of shift workers in Basildon who come and go during the night, Mr Pickles said: “I don’t believe that someone who is working in shifts is scared to go out because there’s no light." Shows how out of touch Pickles really is. Has he ever done shift work? I doubt it. Kim Gandy
  • Score: 2

6:58pm Tue 29 Apr 14

MrsM1980 says...

bazza 1 wrote:
iknowbetter wrote:
Thorp55 wrote:
When your son or daughter is either mugged or falls over when coming home from a night out,some of you people who agree with the switch off might change their tune.It isn't saving money, if it was perhaps they could fix the pavements.
Ok I'll report back if it ever happens, F.Y.I highways pay for road/pavement repairs not the local Council.
Essex County Council is responsible for road and pavement repairs.
Essex county council is different from the local council
[quote][p][bold]bazza 1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]iknowbetter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thorp55[/bold] wrote: When your son or daughter is either mugged or falls over when coming home from a night out,some of you people who agree with the switch off might change their tune.It isn't saving money, if it was perhaps they could fix the pavements.[/p][/quote]Ok I'll report back if it ever happens, F.Y.I highways pay for road/pavement repairs not the local Council.[/p][/quote]Essex County Council is responsible for road and pavement repairs.[/p][/quote]Essex county council is different from the local council MrsM1980
  • Score: 1

7:07pm Tue 29 Apr 14

MrsM1980 says...

I am 25 and I come home in at 3 ish every morning and I love the street lights being off although I might feel differently if I had to walk a distance. I think some areas of Basildon should have the lights kept on.

Some areas like Doddinhurst have never had street lighting and seem to manage without high crime rate and people doing Mr Bean acts down potholes.

Kim are you involved in a political party ?
I am 25 and I come home in at 3 ish every morning and I love the street lights being off although I might feel differently if I had to walk a distance. I think some areas of Basildon should have the lights kept on. Some areas like Doddinhurst have never had street lighting and seem to manage without high crime rate and people doing Mr Bean acts down potholes. Kim are you involved in a political party ? MrsM1980
  • Score: -4

7:21pm Tue 29 Apr 14

MrsM1980 says...

Abington86 wrote:
I see that our beloved Mayor was not at the meeting.

Presumably hidden away in case she disgraced us again.
This was a conservative campaign launch, the Mayor is labour I think ?
[quote][p][bold]Abington86[/bold] wrote: I see that our beloved Mayor was not at the meeting. Presumably hidden away in case she disgraced us again.[/p][/quote]This was a conservative campaign launch, the Mayor is labour I think ? MrsM1980
  • Score: 0

9:22pm Tue 29 Apr 14

TheWizzard says...

MrsM1980 wrote:
Abington86 wrote:
I see that our beloved Mayor was not at the meeting.

Presumably hidden away in case she disgraced us again.
This was a conservative campaign launch, the Mayor is labour I think ?
Probably making the tea, and no shes a tory (at the moment)
[quote][p][bold]MrsM1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Abington86[/bold] wrote: I see that our beloved Mayor was not at the meeting. Presumably hidden away in case she disgraced us again.[/p][/quote]This was a conservative campaign launch, the Mayor is labour I think ?[/p][/quote]Probably making the tea, and no shes a tory (at the moment) TheWizzard
  • Score: 1

10:01pm Tue 29 Apr 14

smiffy22 says...

Druggie Scumbag wrote:
Having been unavoidably detained out of the district for a few months, imagine my concern at having alighted the train at Billericay just after midnight to find the street lights turned off. My first thought was that I was having a bad flashback to the 3 day week and associated cuts- acid was only 50p a dot in those days! I had to walk the 2 miles to my destination on unlit roads fearing that at any time I could tread in a deposit left by some Tory voter's dog. I don't blame the dogs, how can they be expected to defecate off piste as it were when the lights are out. I blame the Tory Council!
Sounds like you need to buy a torch, it's not rocket science solving that little problem :-)
There are plenty of fantastic LED torches these day. Unlike the old ones that gave a dim yellowish glow and ate batteries by the bucket load. Modern LED torches are bright, whiter, the batteries last ages and they're a nice compact pocket-size.
Regards,
Smiffy22
[quote][p][bold]Druggie Scumbag[/bold] wrote: Having been unavoidably detained out of the district for a few months, imagine my concern at having alighted the train at Billericay just after midnight to find the street lights turned off. My first thought was that I was having a bad flashback to the 3 day week and associated cuts- acid was only 50p a dot in those days! I had to walk the 2 miles to my destination on unlit roads fearing that at any time I could tread in a deposit left by some Tory voter's dog. I don't blame the dogs, how can they be expected to defecate off piste as it were when the lights are out. I blame the Tory Council![/p][/quote]Sounds like you need to buy a torch, it's not rocket science solving that little problem :-) There are plenty of fantastic LED torches these day. Unlike the old ones that gave a dim yellowish glow and ate batteries by the bucket load. Modern LED torches are bright, whiter, the batteries last ages and they're a nice compact pocket-size. Regards, Smiffy22 smiffy22
  • Score: -9

11:46pm Tue 29 Apr 14

woolstone says...

Another reason why people won't be voting for the conservatives, when MPs like Mr. Pickle comes out with stupid remarks like this. We need new blood in our councils I only hope people remember to vote to replace some of these idiots that think turning street lights off will have no consequences. Essex would like to have their street lights back on please.
Another reason why people won't be voting for the conservatives, when MPs like Mr. Pickle comes out with stupid remarks like this. We need new blood in our councils I only hope people remember to vote to replace some of these idiots that think turning street lights off will have no consequences. Essex would like to have their street lights back on please. woolstone
  • Score: 13

12:03am Wed 30 Apr 14

ThisYear says...

MrsM1980 wrote:
I am 25 and I come home in at 3 ish every morning and I love the street lights being off although I might feel differently if I had to walk a distance. I think some areas of Basildon should have the lights kept on.

Some areas like Doddinhurst have never had street lighting and seem to manage without high crime rate and people doing Mr Bean acts down potholes.

Kim are you involved in a political party ?
Not anymore..
[quote][p][bold]MrsM1980[/bold] wrote: I am 25 and I come home in at 3 ish every morning and I love the street lights being off although I might feel differently if I had to walk a distance. I think some areas of Basildon should have the lights kept on. Some areas like Doddinhurst have never had street lighting and seem to manage without high crime rate and people doing Mr Bean acts down potholes. Kim are you involved in a political party ?[/p][/quote]Not anymore.. ThisYear
  • Score: 0

12:08am Wed 30 Apr 14

ThisYear says...

The floor boards must of been creaking with Pickles and Ball (sounds like a naff comedy duo) crushing the carpet.
The floor boards must of been creaking with Pickles and Ball (sounds like a naff comedy duo) crushing the carpet. ThisYear
  • Score: -4

8:03am Wed 30 Apr 14

Bfrosty85 says...

Jack222 wrote:
I never thought I'd say I agree with Eric Pickles but I do.

WE live in a time of austerity and turning off streetlights saves heaps; am I the only one actually paying full council tax?
Jack,
We all pay full council tax. The fact is that council tax is high in essex, higher than many parts of the uk therefore ECC are a rich council. Mr pickles, uis a public sector worker who has recently had a 7000 pines pay rise, I had 1% in 3 years. Could he and others not give up a bit or do you think 74000 a year is not enough?
[quote][p][bold]Jack222[/bold] wrote: I never thought I'd say I agree with Eric Pickles but I do. WE live in a time of austerity and turning off streetlights saves heaps; am I the only one actually paying full council tax?[/p][/quote]Jack, We all pay full council tax. The fact is that council tax is high in essex, higher than many parts of the uk therefore ECC are a rich council. Mr pickles, uis a public sector worker who has recently had a 7000 pines pay rise, I had 1% in 3 years. Could he and others not give up a bit or do you think 74000 a year is not enough? Bfrosty85
  • Score: 5

8:10am Wed 30 Apr 14

Bfrosty85 says...

cg1blue wrote:
iknowbetter wrote:
cg1blue wrote:
margrete wrote: I'm no great admirer of Eric Pickles, but I do agree with this. We've had a street lamp right opposite this bungalow on the Anne Boleyn estate and I could never see the reason why it had to be on all the hours of darkness. It's nice to be able to see the night sky and to have darkness outside our windows between midnight and 5 am. We recently went out very early (for the Easter Sunday dawn service at church) and it wasn't any hardship to step outside the door. There's an approach-lit light outside our front door and the car has got headlights! We had no problem. I grew up in a village long before street lights were even thought of.
Try walking through the unlit streets of Basildon after finishing a 1am shift. That might just open your eyes (actually, you might close your eyes in fear). It's not about nice safe areas like yours.
Walking the streets of Basildon at anytime day or night is an experience all of its own, but just because you decided to live in an area you feel unsafe in dosnt mean people have to agree with the moaners that want the lights back on. F.Y.I check out the latest Police crime figures, more muggings take place during the day in Basildon then they do at night. Getting the lights back on will just mean another service will suffer from cutbacks. On the up side Basildon is a much nicer place when you cant see it.
As others have said already, the switch off has not saved any money. It has cost money to install the switches etc.

Do you have those crime figures to hand please? I mean the figures right up to March / April 2014.
If you live In a village or town it doesn't matter, the fact is that ECC and the pickled clan piloted this in convenient places. How can a scheme tested in uttlesford be suitable for built up towns such as basildon or Southend. If you agree with pickles then that's your choice. This is what' happens when the toffs are in. 2015 - labour will be back. P for real people.
[quote][p][bold]cg1blue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]iknowbetter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cg1blue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]margrete[/bold] wrote: I'm no great admirer of Eric Pickles, but I do agree with this. We've had a street lamp right opposite this bungalow on the Anne Boleyn estate and I could never see the reason why it had to be on all the hours of darkness. It's nice to be able to see the night sky and to have darkness outside our windows between midnight and 5 am. We recently went out very early (for the Easter Sunday dawn service at church) and it wasn't any hardship to step outside the door. There's an approach-lit light outside our front door and the car has got headlights! We had no problem. I grew up in a village long before street lights were even thought of.[/p][/quote]Try walking through the unlit streets of Basildon after finishing a 1am shift. That might just open your eyes (actually, you might close your eyes in fear). It's not about nice safe areas like yours.[/p][/quote]Walking the streets of Basildon at anytime day or night is an experience all of its own, but just because you decided to live in an area you feel unsafe in dosnt mean people have to agree with the moaners that want the lights back on. F.Y.I check out the latest Police crime figures, more muggings take place during the day in Basildon then they do at night. Getting the lights back on will just mean another service will suffer from cutbacks. On the up side Basildon is a much nicer place when you cant see it.[/p][/quote]As others have said already, the switch off has not saved any money. It has cost money to install the switches etc. Do you have those crime figures to hand please? I mean the figures right up to March / April 2014.[/p][/quote]If you live In a village or town it doesn't matter, the fact is that ECC and the pickled clan piloted this in convenient places. How can a scheme tested in uttlesford be suitable for built up towns such as basildon or Southend. If you agree with pickles then that's your choice. This is what' happens when the toffs are in. 2015 - labour will be back. P for real people. Bfrosty85
  • Score: 1

8:12am Wed 30 Apr 14

Bfrosty85 says...

whateverhappened wrote:
Bfrosty85 wrote:
If you are a shift worker then this does affect you. This is the conservatives all over. We have avert rich council ..... The fact is the group of people who made this decision are out of touch with the public.
I am and it doesn't
I think your talking rubbish, your not related to pickles are you?
[quote][p][bold]whateverhappened[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bfrosty85[/bold] wrote: If you are a shift worker then this does affect you. This is the conservatives all over. We have avert rich council ..... The fact is the group of people who made this decision are out of touch with the public.[/p][/quote]I am and it doesn't[/p][/quote]I think your talking rubbish, your not related to pickles are you? Bfrosty85
  • Score: 8

8:14am Wed 30 Apr 14

Bfrosty85 says...

iknowbetter wrote:
whateverhappened wrote:
Bfrosty85 wrote:
If you are a shift worker then this does affect you. This is the conservatives all over. We have avert rich council ..... The fact is the group of people who made this decision are out of touch with the public.
I am and it doesn't
My job also means I'm out till 3am and having no street lighting has no adverse effect on me neither. While it may be a minor inconvenience for some having no street lights is far better then having to cut another public service which many people may rely on.
What else is there to cut, services are at a minimum already, what do you people expect? Conservative by any chance?
[quote][p][bold]iknowbetter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whateverhappened[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bfrosty85[/bold] wrote: If you are a shift worker then this does affect you. This is the conservatives all over. We have avert rich council ..... The fact is the group of people who made this decision are out of touch with the public.[/p][/quote]I am and it doesn't[/p][/quote]My job also means I'm out till 3am and having no street lighting has no adverse effect on me neither. While it may be a minor inconvenience for some having no street lights is far better then having to cut another public service which many people may rely on.[/p][/quote]What else is there to cut, services are at a minimum already, what do you people expect? Conservative by any chance? Bfrosty85
  • Score: 1

8:27am Wed 30 Apr 14

Abington86 says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
Abington86 wrote: Glad that our local council is singing from the same hymn sheets as a government minister! John Dornan - what a fool - clearly in a marginal seat and as for Tony Ball -not a brave thing to do but a courageous thing to do. Words fail me.
Are you Cllr Cockroach in a different guise? Stay on topic if you can. You lot are having it rough right now aren't you because you're getting it from all sides - and some of you are strutting around as if you've already re taken the council. That is not going to happen. ******************** ******************** ******************** ********* "Questioned about the high number of shift workers in Basildon who come and go during the night, Mr Pickles said: “I don’t believe that someone who is working in shifts is scared to go out because there’s no light." Shows how out of touch Pickles really is. Has he ever done shift work? I doubt it.
As ever Ms Gandy you have got it wrong. I am not Councillor Cockroach -whoever he may be.

I think we all remember last weeks expose of your dual thoughts on the Mayor of Basildon dont we. One minute slating the woman, the next singing a veritable hymn of praise to her.

When you can hold an opinion for more than a couple of weeks then feel free to comment but in the meantime sling your hook.

Much more fun on here without your ramblings.

It was much more fun without you
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Abington86[/bold] wrote: Glad that our local council is singing from the same hymn sheets as a government minister! John Dornan - what a fool - clearly in a marginal seat and as for Tony Ball -not a brave thing to do but a courageous thing to do. Words fail me.[/p][/quote]Are you Cllr Cockroach in a different guise? Stay on topic if you can. You lot are having it rough right now aren't you because you're getting it from all sides - and some of you are strutting around as if you've already re taken the council. That is not going to happen. ******************** ******************** ******************** ********* "Questioned about the high number of shift workers in Basildon who come and go during the night, Mr Pickles said: “I don’t believe that someone who is working in shifts is scared to go out because there’s no light." Shows how out of touch Pickles really is. Has he ever done shift work? I doubt it.[/p][/quote]As ever Ms Gandy you have got it wrong. I am not Councillor Cockroach -whoever he may be. I think we all remember last weeks expose of your dual thoughts on the Mayor of Basildon dont we. One minute slating the woman, the next singing a veritable hymn of praise to her. When you can hold an opinion for more than a couple of weeks then feel free to comment but in the meantime sling your hook. Much more fun on here without your ramblings. It was much more fun without you Abington86
  • Score: 0

9:15am Wed 30 Apr 14

cg1blue says...

Bfrosty85 wrote:
cg1blue wrote:
iknowbetter wrote:
cg1blue wrote:
margrete wrote: I'm no great admirer of Eric Pickles, but I do agree with this. We've had a street lamp right opposite this bungalow on the Anne Boleyn estate and I could never see the reason why it had to be on all the hours of darkness. It's nice to be able to see the night sky and to have darkness outside our windows between midnight and 5 am. We recently went out very early (for the Easter Sunday dawn service at church) and it wasn't any hardship to step outside the door. There's an approach-lit light outside our front door and the car has got headlights! We had no problem. I grew up in a village long before street lights were even thought of.
Try walking through the unlit streets of Basildon after finishing a 1am shift. That might just open your eyes (actually, you might close your eyes in fear). It's not about nice safe areas like yours.
Walking the streets of Basildon at anytime day or night is an experience all of its own, but just because you decided to live in an area you feel unsafe in dosnt mean people have to agree with the moaners that want the lights back on. F.Y.I check out the latest Police crime figures, more muggings take place during the day in Basildon then they do at night. Getting the lights back on will just mean another service will suffer from cutbacks. On the up side Basildon is a much nicer place when you cant see it.
As others have said already, the switch off has not saved any money. It has cost money to install the switches etc. Do you have those crime figures to hand please? I mean the figures right up to March / April 2014.
If you live In a village or town it doesn't matter, the fact is that ECC and the pickled clan piloted this in convenient places. How can a scheme tested in uttlesford be suitable for built up towns such as basildon or Southend. If you agree with pickles then that's your choice. This is what' happens when the toffs are in. 2015 - labour will be back. P for real people.
"How can a scheme tested in uttlesford be suitable for built up towns such as basildon or Southend. If you agree with pickles then that's your choice."

Absolutely agree, well said!

It's a pity you went on to make it a party political broadcast after that.....as if Labour are really that different to the Tories these days
[quote][p][bold]Bfrosty85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cg1blue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]iknowbetter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cg1blue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]margrete[/bold] wrote: I'm no great admirer of Eric Pickles, but I do agree with this. We've had a street lamp right opposite this bungalow on the Anne Boleyn estate and I could never see the reason why it had to be on all the hours of darkness. It's nice to be able to see the night sky and to have darkness outside our windows between midnight and 5 am. We recently went out very early (for the Easter Sunday dawn service at church) and it wasn't any hardship to step outside the door. There's an approach-lit light outside our front door and the car has got headlights! We had no problem. I grew up in a village long before street lights were even thought of.[/p][/quote]Try walking through the unlit streets of Basildon after finishing a 1am shift. That might just open your eyes (actually, you might close your eyes in fear). It's not about nice safe areas like yours.[/p][/quote]Walking the streets of Basildon at anytime day or night is an experience all of its own, but just because you decided to live in an area you feel unsafe in dosnt mean people have to agree with the moaners that want the lights back on. F.Y.I check out the latest Police crime figures, more muggings take place during the day in Basildon then they do at night. Getting the lights back on will just mean another service will suffer from cutbacks. On the up side Basildon is a much nicer place when you cant see it.[/p][/quote]As others have said already, the switch off has not saved any money. It has cost money to install the switches etc. Do you have those crime figures to hand please? I mean the figures right up to March / April 2014.[/p][/quote]If you live In a village or town it doesn't matter, the fact is that ECC and the pickled clan piloted this in convenient places. How can a scheme tested in uttlesford be suitable for built up towns such as basildon or Southend. If you agree with pickles then that's your choice. This is what' happens when the toffs are in. 2015 - labour will be back. P for real people.[/p][/quote]"How can a scheme tested in uttlesford be suitable for built up towns such as basildon or Southend. If you agree with pickles then that's your choice." Absolutely agree, well said! It's a pity you went on to make it a party political broadcast after that.....as if Labour are really that different to the Tories these days cg1blue
  • Score: 7

9:50am Wed 30 Apr 14

ThisYear says...

Abington86 wrote:
Kim Gandy wrote:
Abington86 wrote: Glad that our local council is singing from the same hymn sheets as a government minister! John Dornan - what a fool - clearly in a marginal seat and as for Tony Ball -not a brave thing to do but a courageous thing to do. Words fail me.
Are you Cllr Cockroach in a different guise? Stay on topic if you can. You lot are having it rough right now aren't you because you're getting it from all sides - and some of you are strutting around as if you've already re taken the council. That is not going to happen. ******************** ******************** ******************** ********* "Questioned about the high number of shift workers in Basildon who come and go during the night, Mr Pickles said: “I don’t believe that someone who is working in shifts is scared to go out because there’s no light." Shows how out of touch Pickles really is. Has he ever done shift work? I doubt it.
As ever Ms Gandy you have got it wrong. I am not Councillor Cockroach -whoever he may be.

I think we all remember last weeks expose of your dual thoughts on the Mayor of Basildon dont we. One minute slating the woman, the next singing a veritable hymn of praise to her.

When you can hold an opinion for more than a couple of weeks then feel free to comment but in the meantime sling your hook.

Much more fun on here without your ramblings.

It was much more fun without you
Yorkshire must breathe easy everyday.
[quote][p][bold]Abington86[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Abington86[/bold] wrote: Glad that our local council is singing from the same hymn sheets as a government minister! John Dornan - what a fool - clearly in a marginal seat and as for Tony Ball -not a brave thing to do but a courageous thing to do. Words fail me.[/p][/quote]Are you Cllr Cockroach in a different guise? Stay on topic if you can. You lot are having it rough right now aren't you because you're getting it from all sides - and some of you are strutting around as if you've already re taken the council. That is not going to happen. ******************** ******************** ******************** ********* "Questioned about the high number of shift workers in Basildon who come and go during the night, Mr Pickles said: “I don’t believe that someone who is working in shifts is scared to go out because there’s no light." Shows how out of touch Pickles really is. Has he ever done shift work? I doubt it.[/p][/quote]As ever Ms Gandy you have got it wrong. I am not Councillor Cockroach -whoever he may be. I think we all remember last weeks expose of your dual thoughts on the Mayor of Basildon dont we. One minute slating the woman, the next singing a veritable hymn of praise to her. When you can hold an opinion for more than a couple of weeks then feel free to comment but in the meantime sling your hook. Much more fun on here without your ramblings. It was much more fun without you[/p][/quote]Yorkshire must breathe easy everyday. ThisYear
  • Score: -2

10:26am Wed 30 Apr 14

whateverhappened says...

Bfrosty85 wrote:
whateverhappened wrote:
Bfrosty85 wrote: If you are a shift worker then this does affect you. This is the conservatives all over. We have avert rich council ..... The fact is the group of people who made this decision are out of touch with the public.
I am and it doesn't
I think your talking rubbish, your not related to pickles are you?
Rubbish how ...you think i would lie about working shifts (@ ford btw) just to make a point about street light off effecting very few people in real terms.
[quote][p][bold]Bfrosty85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whateverhappened[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bfrosty85[/bold] wrote: If you are a shift worker then this does affect you. This is the conservatives all over. We have avert rich council ..... The fact is the group of people who made this decision are out of touch with the public.[/p][/quote]I am and it doesn't[/p][/quote]I think your talking rubbish, your not related to pickles are you?[/p][/quote]Rubbish how ...you think i would lie about working shifts (@ ford btw) just to make a point about street light off effecting very few people in real terms. whateverhappened
  • Score: -7

11:40am Wed 30 Apr 14

imnotanimby says...

I'm right with you Mr Pickles. I've never been afraid of the dark and it's wonderful so see the night sky in all its glory. It's also very healthy to sleep in complete darkness - medical research has shown that night shift workers suffer more cancers because they are constantly exposed to light.
I'm right with you Mr Pickles. I've never been afraid of the dark and it's wonderful so see the night sky in all its glory. It's also very healthy to sleep in complete darkness - medical research has shown that night shift workers suffer more cancers because they are constantly exposed to light. imnotanimby
  • Score: -9

1:13pm Wed 30 Apr 14

cg1blue says...

imnotanimby wrote:
I'm right with you Mr Pickles. I've never been afraid of the dark and it's wonderful so see the night sky in all its glory. It's also very healthy to sleep in complete darkness - medical research has shown that night shift workers suffer more cancers because they are constantly exposed to light.
It's nice to hear this doesn't affect you. Spare a thought for those who are affected though, e.g. people who have to walk through pitch black Basildon streets on the way home from a nightshift, not knowing if a bunch of hoodies might be waiting for a pay day on the next corner.

But you and Mr Pickles are ok, that's all that matters....
[quote][p][bold]imnotanimby[/bold] wrote: I'm right with you Mr Pickles. I've never been afraid of the dark and it's wonderful so see the night sky in all its glory. It's also very healthy to sleep in complete darkness - medical research has shown that night shift workers suffer more cancers because they are constantly exposed to light.[/p][/quote]It's nice to hear this doesn't affect you. Spare a thought for those who are affected though, e.g. people who have to walk through pitch black Basildon streets on the way home from a nightshift, not knowing if a bunch of hoodies might be waiting for a pay day on the next corner. But you and Mr Pickles are ok, that's all that matters.... cg1blue
  • Score: 9

2:40pm Wed 30 Apr 14

whateverhappened says...

cg1blue wrote:
imnotanimby wrote: I'm right with you Mr Pickles. I've never been afraid of the dark and it's wonderful so see the night sky in all its glory. It's also very healthy to sleep in complete darkness - medical research has shown that night shift workers suffer more cancers because they are constantly exposed to light.
It's nice to hear this doesn't affect you. Spare a thought for those who are affected though, e.g. people who have to walk through pitch black Basildon streets on the way home from a nightshift, not knowing if a bunch of hoodies might be waiting for a pay day on the next corner. But you and Mr Pickles are ok, that's all that matters....
are night time muggings in basildon a new phenomenon did they not happen ..say last year?
[quote][p][bold]cg1blue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]imnotanimby[/bold] wrote: I'm right with you Mr Pickles. I've never been afraid of the dark and it's wonderful so see the night sky in all its glory. It's also very healthy to sleep in complete darkness - medical research has shown that night shift workers suffer more cancers because they are constantly exposed to light.[/p][/quote]It's nice to hear this doesn't affect you. Spare a thought for those who are affected though, e.g. people who have to walk through pitch black Basildon streets on the way home from a nightshift, not knowing if a bunch of hoodies might be waiting for a pay day on the next corner. But you and Mr Pickles are ok, that's all that matters....[/p][/quote]are night time muggings in basildon a new phenomenon did they not happen ..say last year? whateverhappened
  • Score: -7

3:32pm Wed 30 Apr 14

yellowfairy says...

Typical arrogant behaviour by a person that doesn't give a **** and thinks he is bigger than anyone else.......Cretin
Typical arrogant behaviour by a person that doesn't give a **** and thinks he is bigger than anyone else.......Cretin yellowfairy
  • Score: 8

8:37pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Bfrosty85 says...

whateverhappened wrote:
Bfrosty85 wrote:
whateverhappened wrote:
Bfrosty85 wrote: If you are a shift worker then this does affect you. This is the conservatives all over. We have avert rich council ..... The fact is the group of people who made this decision are out of touch with the public.
I am and it doesn't
I think your talking rubbish, your not related to pickles are you?
Rubbish how ...you think i would lie about working shifts (@ ford btw) just to make a point about street light off effecting very few people in real terms.
That's crap. Just read the comments, you are out of touch and living In a bubble if this doesn't affect you.... Are you related to the fat pickled controller by any chance?
[quote][p][bold]whateverhappened[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bfrosty85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whateverhappened[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bfrosty85[/bold] wrote: If you are a shift worker then this does affect you. This is the conservatives all over. We have avert rich council ..... The fact is the group of people who made this decision are out of touch with the public.[/p][/quote]I am and it doesn't[/p][/quote]I think your talking rubbish, your not related to pickles are you?[/p][/quote]Rubbish how ...you think i would lie about working shifts (@ ford btw) just to make a point about street light off effecting very few people in real terms.[/p][/quote]That's crap. Just read the comments, you are out of touch and living In a bubble if this doesn't affect you.... Are you related to the fat pickled controller by any chance? Bfrosty85
  • Score: 8

8:39pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Bfrosty85 says...

cg1blue wrote:
imnotanimby wrote:
I'm right with you Mr Pickles. I've never been afraid of the dark and it's wonderful so see the night sky in all its glory. It's also very healthy to sleep in complete darkness - medical research has shown that night shift workers suffer more cancers because they are constantly exposed to light.
It's nice to hear this doesn't affect you. Spare a thought for those who are affected though, e.g. people who have to walk through pitch black Basildon streets on the way home from a nightshift, not knowing if a bunch of hoodies might be waiting for a pay day on the next corner.

But you and Mr Pickles are ok, that's all that matters....
Yeah the night sky is lovely, I didn't know street lights were in the air stopping you deform seeing the shiny lights.....
[quote][p][bold]cg1blue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]imnotanimby[/bold] wrote: I'm right with you Mr Pickles. I've never been afraid of the dark and it's wonderful so see the night sky in all its glory. It's also very healthy to sleep in complete darkness - medical research has shown that night shift workers suffer more cancers because they are constantly exposed to light.[/p][/quote]It's nice to hear this doesn't affect you. Spare a thought for those who are affected though, e.g. people who have to walk through pitch black Basildon streets on the way home from a nightshift, not knowing if a bunch of hoodies might be waiting for a pay day on the next corner. But you and Mr Pickles are ok, that's all that matters....[/p][/quote]Yeah the night sky is lovely, I didn't know street lights were in the air stopping you deform seeing the shiny lights..... Bfrosty85
  • Score: 4

9:32pm Wed 30 Apr 14

ThisYear says...

yellowfairy wrote:
Typical arrogant behaviour by a person that doesn't give a **** and thinks he is bigger than anyone else.......Cretin
Well he is 'bigger' than a lot of people..
[quote][p][bold]yellowfairy[/bold] wrote: Typical arrogant behaviour by a person that doesn't give a **** and thinks he is bigger than anyone else.......Cretin[/p][/quote]Well he is 'bigger' than a lot of people.. ThisYear
  • Score: 0

3:20am Thu 1 May 14

TowerBlockDreams says...

Forgive me if this sounds like "I'm alright Jack" But I do have to give Southend Borough Council one thing - they are keeping the lights on, thank good we left Essex County Council in the 90's. As a night worker with an area covered in dog mess in my part of town they really are a necessity.
Forgive me if this sounds like "I'm alright Jack" But I do have to give Southend Borough Council one thing - they are keeping the lights on, thank good we left Essex County Council in the 90's. As a night worker with an area covered in dog mess in my part of town they really are a necessity. TowerBlockDreams
  • Score: 4

9:50am Thu 1 May 14

MrsM1980 says...

I think given the choice many Billericay folk would want to be part of Brentwood Council for many reasons.
I think given the choice many Billericay folk would want to be part of Brentwood Council for many reasons. MrsM1980
  • Score: 0

10:11am Thu 1 May 14

cg1blue says...

whateverhappened wrote:
cg1blue wrote:
imnotanimby wrote: I'm right with you Mr Pickles. I've never been afraid of the dark and it's wonderful so see the night sky in all its glory. It's also very healthy to sleep in complete darkness - medical research has shown that night shift workers suffer more cancers because they are constantly exposed to light.
It's nice to hear this doesn't affect you. Spare a thought for those who are affected though, e.g. people who have to walk through pitch black Basildon streets on the way home from a nightshift, not knowing if a bunch of hoodies might be waiting for a pay day on the next corner. But you and Mr Pickles are ok, that's all that matters....
are night time muggings in basildon a new phenomenon did they not happen ..say last year?
I'm not saying they are a new phenomenon. I'm saying the pitch black darkness makes it easier for muggers, hoodie attackers etc., and much scarier for those who have to walk the streets at night, in certain areas.
[quote][p][bold]whateverhappened[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cg1blue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]imnotanimby[/bold] wrote: I'm right with you Mr Pickles. I've never been afraid of the dark and it's wonderful so see the night sky in all its glory. It's also very healthy to sleep in complete darkness - medical research has shown that night shift workers suffer more cancers because they are constantly exposed to light.[/p][/quote]It's nice to hear this doesn't affect you. Spare a thought for those who are affected though, e.g. people who have to walk through pitch black Basildon streets on the way home from a nightshift, not knowing if a bunch of hoodies might be waiting for a pay day on the next corner. But you and Mr Pickles are ok, that's all that matters....[/p][/quote]are night time muggings in basildon a new phenomenon did they not happen ..say last year?[/p][/quote]I'm not saying they are a new phenomenon. I'm saying the pitch black darkness makes it easier for muggers, hoodie attackers etc., and much scarier for those who have to walk the streets at night, in certain areas. cg1blue
  • Score: 2

10:02am Fri 2 May 14

bazza 1 says...

MrsM1980 wrote:
I think given the choice many Billericay folk would want to be part of Brentwood Council for many reasons.
I think given the choice, many Basildon folk want to be part of Brentwood Council for many reasons as well.
[quote][p][bold]MrsM1980[/bold] wrote: I think given the choice many Billericay folk would want to be part of Brentwood Council for many reasons.[/p][/quote]I think given the choice, many Basildon folk want to be part of Brentwood Council for many reasons as well. bazza 1
  • Score: 3

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