Football club targets a controversial move

East Thurrock United's current ground, Rookery Hill. The club are looking to sell this land for housing and move elsewhere. [Pic - Mikey Cartwright/Ponderosa Pix]

East Thurrock United's current ground, Rookery Hill. The club are looking to sell this land for housing and move elsewhere. [Pic - Mikey Cartwright/Ponderosa Pix]

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Southend Standard: Matt Abbott by , Chief Reporter

EAST Thurrock United Football Club look set to controversially move home.

Residents living around the club’s proposed new ground - Billet Field in Stanford-le-Hope - are unhappy and preparing to battle against the plan.

However, the Gazette can reveal that next week, Thurrock Council will agree to sell the playing field to East Thurrock for £340,000 - as long as it gets planning permission to build a community football ground on the site, and approval to build homes on the club’s current Rookery Hill ground, in Corringham.

Anita Hayward of Billet Lane, who lives opposite the field, said: “You wouldn’t want a new football ground opposite your house. It will bring extra traffic, noise and they will be playing at night. My feelings are very strong about this. Residents won’t benefit from football pitches.”

Another Billet Lane, who did not wish to be named, believes the land maybe protected by a covenant.

She said: “I heard the land was gifted to the people of Stanford in the same way the neighbouring Mobil Field was years ago. The Billet Field is a nice, quiet leisure area. It should stay that way.”

The Gazette revealed in November how the club was considering making an offer for the land, off Billet Lane.

It had hoped to buy the Pegasus Club, in Corringham from Coryton oil refinery administrators Pricewaterhouse Cooper.

It has lodged a “very substantial” bid for the club in Herd Lane - and is still waiting to hear the outcome of that.

However, the focus is now firmly on the Billet Field.

A spokesman for East Thurrock Football Club said: “Our interest and a very substantial offer for the Pegasus Club remains lodged with the agent but we cannot let time stand still.

“Having identified the Billet site as one that also meets our needs and affords an opportunity to massively improve community sporting activities we have engaged with council officers and councillors.

“We are now focussing on that and should the council approve the proposed sale, we look forward to the next stage of the project which will involve establishing detailed plans in consultation with the local residents.”

Terry Piccolo, chairman of the Stanford and Corringham community forum, added: “I’m wary of this until I see some more detailed proposals.”

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2:51pm Fri 4 Apr 14

Jb66 says...

I believe this land was gifted to the people of Thurrock and was never to be built on, who has given permission for the council to sell this land? and will the Council pay compensation to the householders whose property values will sink? We do not want, nor need, a football stadium right opposite residential homes. We will fight this tooth and nail. ETFC have a terrible reputation for trouble in their existing clubhouse, we do not want it following them to Billet Lane, local residents at their existing site have cited criminal damage to their properties, fights etc. I am sure there are plenty of Brownfield sites that are more suitable. Billet Lane is a nice quiet narrow Lane, not a road, where will all the cars be parked?
I believe this land was gifted to the people of Thurrock and was never to be built on, who has given permission for the council to sell this land? and will the Council pay compensation to the householders whose property values will sink? We do not want, nor need, a football stadium right opposite residential homes. We will fight this tooth and nail. ETFC have a terrible reputation for trouble in their existing clubhouse, we do not want it following them to Billet Lane, local residents at their existing site have cited criminal damage to their properties, fights etc. I am sure there are plenty of Brownfield sites that are more suitable. Billet Lane is a nice quiet narrow Lane, not a road, where will all the cars be parked? Jb66
  • Score: -4

4:34pm Fri 4 Apr 14

Stan-Ford-Hope says...

I would just ask you all to please remember that ETUFC is a club for the whole community, it is not a private and exclusive club. .. As well as being the areas senior non-league club, we also run academy and youth sides for local youngsters, and provide professional football coaching for kids from five years old upwards. .. The club certainly does not wish to alienate itself from the local community,,. .. Should the proposed re-location to Rainbow Lane take place, every effort will be made to minimalise any impact on the residents in the immediate vicinity. ... Please don't jump to conclusions based on spurious rumours or conjecture. ..
I would just ask you all to please remember that ETUFC is a club for the whole community, it is not a private and exclusive club. .. As well as being the areas senior non-league club, we also run academy and youth sides for local youngsters, and provide professional football coaching for kids from five years old upwards. .. The club certainly does not wish to alienate itself from the local community,,. .. Should the proposed re-location to Rainbow Lane take place, every effort will be made to minimalise any impact on the residents in the immediate vicinity. ... Please don't jump to conclusions based on spurious rumours or conjecture. .. Stan-Ford-Hope
  • Score: 6

4:44pm Fri 4 Apr 14

Stan-Ford-Hope says...

I would also add in reply to Jb66 that the "trouble" in the Rookery Hill clubhouse was actually a couple of isolated private hire events which took place in the hall at least ten years ago. .. Could have happened to any club. ... I think you will find that the club is on very good terms with all their neighbours in the locality of the ground, including the Church. ... The site was handed over by the LATHOL oil firm to be used as as a sporting facility, at that is of course what ETUFC will be doing with it, and I'm also quite sure that the Council legal beagles would not have allowed the sale to be put forward if it was not 100% above board. ... Also happy to give my name. TERRY KEATING co founder and former secretary of ETUFC.
I would also add in reply to Jb66 that the "trouble" in the Rookery Hill clubhouse was actually a couple of isolated private hire events which took place in the hall at least ten years ago. .. Could have happened to any club. ... I think you will find that the club is on very good terms with all their neighbours in the locality of the ground, including the Church. ... The site was handed over by the LATHOL oil firm to be used as as a sporting facility, at that is of course what ETUFC will be doing with it, and I'm also quite sure that the Council legal beagles would not have allowed the sale to be put forward if it was not 100% above board. ... Also happy to give my name. TERRY KEATING co founder and former secretary of ETUFC. Stan-Ford-Hope
  • Score: 6

5:02pm Fri 4 Apr 14

Jb66 says...

Stan-Ford-Hope wrote:
I would also add in reply to Jb66 that the "trouble" in the Rookery Hill clubhouse was actually a couple of isolated private hire events which took place in the hall at least ten years ago. .. Could have happened to any club. ... I think you will find that the club is on very good terms with all their neighbours in the locality of the ground, including the Church. ... The site was handed over by the LATHOL oil firm to be used as as a sporting facility, at that is of course what ETUFC will be doing with it, and I'm also quite sure that the Council legal beagles would not have allowed the sale to be put forward if it was not 100% above board. ... Also happy to give my name. TERRY KEATING co founder and former secretary of ETUFC.
Well Terry, that isn't the impression I got from the Pegasus meeting from the neighbours, if you remember they were the ones that said their bins were kicked into the street etc. They gave a first hand account of the weekly incidents that affected their properties. Yes I knew the land was handed over as a sporting facility and that is exactly what it is now, football and cricket, the people of Rainbow Lane and Billet Lane and Conrad Road do not want a stadium on their doorsteps. By the way, I hear the Pegasus sale fell through, maybe you could rebid for that, as that's a more sporting facility that doesn't affect residents.
[quote][p][bold]Stan-Ford-Hope[/bold] wrote: I would also add in reply to Jb66 that the "trouble" in the Rookery Hill clubhouse was actually a couple of isolated private hire events which took place in the hall at least ten years ago. .. Could have happened to any club. ... I think you will find that the club is on very good terms with all their neighbours in the locality of the ground, including the Church. ... The site was handed over by the LATHOL oil firm to be used as as a sporting facility, at that is of course what ETUFC will be doing with it, and I'm also quite sure that the Council legal beagles would not have allowed the sale to be put forward if it was not 100% above board. ... Also happy to give my name. TERRY KEATING co founder and former secretary of ETUFC.[/p][/quote]Well Terry, that isn't the impression I got from the Pegasus meeting from the neighbours, if you remember they were the ones that said their bins were kicked into the street etc. They gave a first hand account of the weekly incidents that affected their properties. Yes I knew the land was handed over as a sporting facility and that is exactly what it is now, football and cricket, the people of Rainbow Lane and Billet Lane and Conrad Road do not want a stadium on their doorsteps. By the way, I hear the Pegasus sale fell through, maybe you could rebid for that, as that's a more sporting facility that doesn't affect residents. Jb66
  • Score: -4

9:21pm Fri 4 Apr 14

ardale lad says...

I have used the club house for many years and held private functions there and have never had any problems with fights or criminal damage never even heard of the police being called for any problems. Actually a great safe friendly environment to hold a function and would thoroughly recommend it. Terrible reputation? With who ?
I have used the club house for many years and held private functions there and have never had any problems with fights or criminal damage never even heard of the police being called for any problems. Actually a great safe friendly environment to hold a function and would thoroughly recommend it. Terrible reputation? With who ? ardale lad
  • Score: 6

11:22pm Fri 4 Apr 14

luckyforme says...

What will they do with all the people living in caravans in the car park will they be bringing them along , hope not as it means the people attending the club have to park all over the road like they do now .

Strange how they get away with that with the leader of the council being president of the football club .
What will they do with all the people living in caravans in the car park will they be bringing them along , hope not as it means the people attending the club have to park all over the road like they do now . Strange how they get away with that with the leader of the council being president of the football club . luckyforme
  • Score: -1

9:14am Sat 5 Apr 14

thurrock-baz says...

TERRY KEATING here again. .. I consider it most unfair that people can come on here and make controversial comments without having the common decency to give their names, .. It is common practice amongst local sporting clubs and similar organisations to have a local councillor, MP or similar local dignitary as an honorary patron or president. .. When we founded ETUFC back in 1969, then local councullor Tom Price was happy to become our honorary president, and this practice has continued throughout the club's history....Councillo
r Kent is very keen on supporting all sport throughout the borough, but remains totally impartial, and has quite rightly distanced himself completely from these negotiations.
TERRY KEATING here again. .. I consider it most unfair that people can come on here and make controversial comments without having the common decency to give their names, .. It is common practice amongst local sporting clubs and similar organisations to have a local councillor, MP or similar local dignitary as an honorary patron or president. .. When we founded ETUFC back in 1969, then local councullor Tom Price was happy to become our honorary president, and this practice has continued throughout the club's history....Councillo r Kent is very keen on supporting all sport throughout the borough, but remains totally impartial, and has quite rightly distanced himself completely from these negotiations. thurrock-baz
  • Score: 2

11:27am Sun 6 Apr 14

Jb66 says...

luckyforme wrote:
What will they do with all the people living in caravans in the car park will they be bringing them along , hope not as it means the people attending the club have to park all over the road like they do now .

Strange how they get away with that with the leader of the council being president of the football club .
They are not even caravans they are containers! Oh forgot to mention Councillor Kent being president Terry? What a surprise. I guess a done deal then, no wonder its being sold off so cheaply. Councillor Kent distancing himself , of course he is. The land was donated to the people who gave the council permission to sell it? I don't remember a vote!!! Maybe with all the money they make they can pay the residents of Billet Lane who are going to have to face this eyesore everyday a great deal of compensation for the devaluing of their property. Please answer the question about the container residents and all the cars!!
[quote][p][bold]luckyforme[/bold] wrote: What will they do with all the people living in caravans in the car park will they be bringing them along , hope not as it means the people attending the club have to park all over the road like they do now . Strange how they get away with that with the leader of the council being president of the football club .[/p][/quote]They are not even caravans they are containers! Oh forgot to mention Councillor Kent being president Terry? What a surprise. I guess a done deal then, no wonder its being sold off so cheaply. Councillor Kent distancing himself , of course he is. The land was donated to the people who gave the council permission to sell it? I don't remember a vote!!! Maybe with all the money they make they can pay the residents of Billet Lane who are going to have to face this eyesore everyday a great deal of compensation for the devaluing of their property. Please answer the question about the container residents and all the cars!! Jb66
  • Score: -5

8:44pm Sun 6 Apr 14

luckyforme says...

Lets look at" Fair".
The car park is used for containers and caravans with people living in them meaning that people who should be parking there are not able to, so they park on the nearby roads and verges this causes problems for the local residents and people using the church are inconvenienced because of this would you consider that FAIR ? By doing this you are depriving local licensed guest houses of business is that FAIR ?
You have a large board advertising accomodation facing the Manorway the board and indeed the accomodation do not have planning permission
the planners turn a blind eye to these matters and yet when DP World placed a similar board on the A13 advertising jobs for local people they were forced to remove it by the planners in a matter of days does that seem FAIR ?
Youhave totally blocked off the footpath that runs through the ground with containers depriving people of their right to walk this footpath is this another FAIR ?
You break many many planning rules you run an accomodation business from a club that only has permission for football you show total disregard for residents you deprive guesthouses of custom , you cause disruption to the church by not providing parking for your patrons, indeed when the club first obtained permission a condition of that planning was that the car park must be surfaced and fully operational within three months as the planners were keen to make sure adequate parking was provided , as a founder of the club you may remember this.
Somehow the local council do not do anything about the breaches that take place at the football club so just who is that FAIR to ?
Maybe someone from this newspaper could put the question to the planning dept why are these activities allowed to go on ?
When you speak of being FAIR you have to understand that it means FAIR to all concerned not just FAIR to you.
You tell us that ETUFC is for the whole community and does not wish to aleniate residents and presumably the Councillor has not noticed the breaches of planning or surely he would have felt oblged to report it .
Well what can be said except FAIR enough.
Lets look at" Fair". The car park is used for containers and caravans with people living in them meaning that people who should be parking there are not able to, so they park on the nearby roads and verges this causes problems for the local residents and people using the church are inconvenienced because of this would you consider that FAIR ? By doing this you are depriving local licensed guest houses of business is that FAIR ? You have a large board advertising accomodation facing the Manorway the board and indeed the accomodation do not have planning permission the planners turn a blind eye to these matters and yet when DP World placed a similar board on the A13 advertising jobs for local people they were forced to remove it by the planners in a matter of days does that seem FAIR ? Youhave totally blocked off the footpath that runs through the ground with containers depriving people of their right to walk this footpath is this another FAIR ? You break many many planning rules you run an accomodation business from a club that only has permission for football you show total disregard for residents you deprive guesthouses of custom , you cause disruption to the church by not providing parking for your patrons, indeed when the club first obtained permission a condition of that planning was that the car park must be surfaced and fully operational within three months as the planners were keen to make sure adequate parking was provided , as a founder of the club you may remember this. Somehow the local council do not do anything about the breaches that take place at the football club so just who is that FAIR to ? Maybe someone from this newspaper could put the question to the planning dept why are these activities allowed to go on ? When you speak of being FAIR you have to understand that it means FAIR to all concerned not just FAIR to you. You tell us that ETUFC is for the whole community and does not wish to aleniate residents and presumably the Councillor has not noticed the breaches of planning or surely he would have felt oblged to report it . Well what can be said except FAIR enough. luckyforme
  • Score: -2

9:14am Mon 7 Apr 14

thurrock-baz says...

Hi it’s TERRY KEATING here again (yes I am a real person, not someone hiding anonymously behind a pseudonym) ..... I have to say that Mr/Mrs/Ms “luckyforme” seems to be someone who has very good knowledge of the history and goings-on at ETUFC. .... Therefore I must also assume that they are well aware that, although I was one of the co-founders of the club, and served as secretary for a number of years, I have not been involved in the administration of ETUFC for over 20 years now. ... I do however continue to support and speak up for the club.
Mr/Mrs/Ms “luckyforme” however would appear to have a serious personal grudge against the club judging by their rantings above. Yes mistakes may have been made along the way, but I have to say that in recent years ETUFC has progressed to their highest ever level. ... The club is being run by a great bunch of people, whose undoubted enthusiasm for the club in obvious to everyone. ... As I said earlier, the club now also has a fantastic youth set-up with boys and girls as young as five being coached.
I do think that Mr/Mrs/Ms “luckyforme” has actually put forward an excellent case for ETUFC to re-locate, as the portakabin type buildings which are currently used for additional changing rooms, club office, tea bar, pitch side toilets and hospitality area will all be able to be incorporated into a new custom designed headquarters.
As I am no longer involved, I am not in a position to comment on the small number of temporary accommodation units which are on part of the present site, other than to say that I personally know of three local people (not associated with ETUFC in any way) who have had cause to be grateful for short term use of them, as they would otherwise have been left homeless.
Hi it’s TERRY KEATING here again (yes I am a real person, not someone hiding anonymously behind a pseudonym) ..... I have to say that Mr/Mrs/Ms “luckyforme” seems to be someone who has very good knowledge of the history and goings-on at ETUFC. .... Therefore I must also assume that they are well aware that, although I was one of the co-founders of the club, and served as secretary for a number of years, I have not been involved in the administration of ETUFC for over 20 years now. ... I do however continue to support and speak up for the club. Mr/Mrs/Ms “luckyforme” however would appear to have a serious personal grudge against the club judging by their rantings above. Yes mistakes may have been made along the way, but I have to say that in recent years ETUFC has progressed to their highest ever level. ... The club is being run by a great bunch of people, whose undoubted enthusiasm for the club in obvious to everyone. ... As I said earlier, the club now also has a fantastic youth set-up with boys and girls as young as five being coached. I do think that Mr/Mrs/Ms “luckyforme” has actually put forward an excellent case for ETUFC to re-locate, as the portakabin type buildings which are currently used for additional changing rooms, club office, tea bar, pitch side toilets and hospitality area will all be able to be incorporated into a new custom designed headquarters. As I am no longer involved, I am not in a position to comment on the small number of temporary accommodation units which are on part of the present site, other than to say that I personally know of three local people (not associated with ETUFC in any way) who have had cause to be grateful for short term use of them, as they would otherwise have been left homeless. thurrock-baz
  • Score: 3

1:49pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Jb66 says...

luckyforme wrote:
Lets look at" Fair".
The car park is used for containers and caravans with people living in them meaning that people who should be parking there are not able to, so they park on the nearby roads and verges this causes problems for the local residents and people using the church are inconvenienced because of this would you consider that FAIR ? By doing this you are depriving local licensed guest houses of business is that FAIR ?
You have a large board advertising accomodation facing the Manorway the board and indeed the accomodation do not have planning permission
the planners turn a blind eye to these matters and yet when DP World placed a similar board on the A13 advertising jobs for local people they were forced to remove it by the planners in a matter of days does that seem FAIR ?
Youhave totally blocked off the footpath that runs through the ground with containers depriving people of their right to walk this footpath is this another FAIR ?
You break many many planning rules you run an accomodation business from a club that only has permission for football you show total disregard for residents you deprive guesthouses of custom , you cause disruption to the church by not providing parking for your patrons, indeed when the club first obtained permission a condition of that planning was that the car park must be surfaced and fully operational within three months as the planners were keen to make sure adequate parking was provided , as a founder of the club you may remember this.
Somehow the local council do not do anything about the breaches that take place at the football club so just who is that FAIR to ?
Maybe someone from this newspaper could put the question to the planning dept why are these activities allowed to go on ?
When you speak of being FAIR you have to understand that it means FAIR to all concerned not just FAIR to you.
You tell us that ETUFC is for the whole community and does not wish to aleniate residents and presumably the Councillor has not noticed the breaches of planning or surely he would have felt oblged to report it .
Well what can be said except FAIR enough.
Maybe planning permission has been overlooked because a councillor is president of the Club, a guess on my part but who knows. And thes container housed more than a small number of people in the past because my son's friend rented one for a couple of years and they were all taken. And Terry why are you speaking up instead of the owner? So can you categorically deny that the container renters will not be moving with the club? Or is it going to end up like some container site eyesore?
[quote][p][bold]luckyforme[/bold] wrote: Lets look at" Fair". The car park is used for containers and caravans with people living in them meaning that people who should be parking there are not able to, so they park on the nearby roads and verges this causes problems for the local residents and people using the church are inconvenienced because of this would you consider that FAIR ? By doing this you are depriving local licensed guest houses of business is that FAIR ? You have a large board advertising accomodation facing the Manorway the board and indeed the accomodation do not have planning permission the planners turn a blind eye to these matters and yet when DP World placed a similar board on the A13 advertising jobs for local people they were forced to remove it by the planners in a matter of days does that seem FAIR ? Youhave totally blocked off the footpath that runs through the ground with containers depriving people of their right to walk this footpath is this another FAIR ? You break many many planning rules you run an accomodation business from a club that only has permission for football you show total disregard for residents you deprive guesthouses of custom , you cause disruption to the church by not providing parking for your patrons, indeed when the club first obtained permission a condition of that planning was that the car park must be surfaced and fully operational within three months as the planners were keen to make sure adequate parking was provided , as a founder of the club you may remember this. Somehow the local council do not do anything about the breaches that take place at the football club so just who is that FAIR to ? Maybe someone from this newspaper could put the question to the planning dept why are these activities allowed to go on ? When you speak of being FAIR you have to understand that it means FAIR to all concerned not just FAIR to you. You tell us that ETUFC is for the whole community and does not wish to aleniate residents and presumably the Councillor has not noticed the breaches of planning or surely he would have felt oblged to report it . Well what can be said except FAIR enough.[/p][/quote]Maybe planning permission has been overlooked because a councillor is president of the Club, a guess on my part but who knows. And thes container housed more than a small number of people in the past because my son's friend rented one for a couple of years and they were all taken. And Terry why are you speaking up instead of the owner? So can you categorically deny that the container renters will not be moving with the club? Or is it going to end up like some container site eyesore? Jb66
  • Score: -2

2:26pm Mon 7 Apr 14

thurrock-baz says...

TERRY KEATING again. ...In reply to the anonymous Mr/Mrs/Miss/Ms "Jb66".
When I say that I speak UP for the club, that's very different to speaking ON BEHALF of the club. ...
I am however quite sure that if the re-location of ETUFC to Rainbow Lane does take place, then the people currently involved in running the club will be keeping the locals fully informed of their plans.
TERRY KEATING again. ...In reply to the anonymous Mr/Mrs/Miss/Ms "Jb66". When I say that I speak UP for the club, that's very different to speaking ON BEHALF of the club. ... I am however quite sure that if the re-location of ETUFC to Rainbow Lane does take place, then the people currently involved in running the club will be keeping the locals fully informed of their plans. thurrock-baz
  • Score: 4

2:45pm Mon 7 Apr 14

poortaxpayer says...

Always helpful to have the Leader of the Council as your President. Quick re write of the Local Development Plan and Bobs your Aunty - Public recreation ground flogged off to minuscule barely functioning joke of a football club.

Strange Aveley FC ground is also going to be flogged off for housing and a chunk of Behus park is handed over.

Firemans Ground in Aveley is flogged off for hosues as well and a chunk of green belt will be given for a new stadium. All very strange and odd.

These clubs are lucky some days to get an audience in double figures but they all have delusions of grandeur thinking they will make it into the real football league. They are going to all spend a small fortune with a snowballs chance in hell of ever generating enough revenue to pay off their debts and are all heading into financial oblivion.
Always helpful to have the Leader of the Council as your President. Quick re write of the Local Development Plan and Bobs your Aunty - Public recreation ground flogged off to minuscule barely functioning joke of a football club. Strange Aveley FC ground is also going to be flogged off for housing and a chunk of Behus park is handed over. Firemans Ground in Aveley is flogged off for hosues as well and a chunk of green belt will be given for a new stadium. All very strange and odd. These clubs are lucky some days to get an audience in double figures but they all have delusions of grandeur thinking they will make it into the real football league. They are going to all spend a small fortune with a snowballs chance in hell of ever generating enough revenue to pay off their debts and are all heading into financial oblivion. poortaxpayer
  • Score: -1

11:34pm Mon 7 Apr 14

luckyforme says...

Oh Dear Oh Dear

So the sport loving Leader of the Council has not noticed the planning breaches does he actually attend the club ?
They are coaching children as young as five, they are providing shelter for the homeless people , all the portakabin type buildings used for "temporary accomodation" will be incorporated within the new custom designed headquarters building.
Well have we misjudged them does it really matter if a few peoples weddings are spoilt by the people parking in every available space ?
So what if the ramblers are not able to use the footpath and the council officers manage to shut their eyes when the drive by the club they do not notice the large advertising board or the containers and caravans with sky dishes fitted well what are friends for if they cannot help out sometimes.
We thought it was an accomodation business renting to contractors and the like but no they are helping the homeless and training kids and anyway all the people can live in the new headquarters at the Billet so no problem really.
Oh Dear Oh Dear So the sport loving Leader of the Council has not noticed the planning breaches does he actually attend the club ? They are coaching children as young as five, they are providing shelter for the homeless people , all the portakabin type buildings used for "temporary accomodation" will be incorporated within the new custom designed headquarters building. Well have we misjudged them does it really matter if a few peoples weddings are spoilt by the people parking in every available space ? So what if the ramblers are not able to use the footpath and the council officers manage to shut their eyes when the drive by the club they do not notice the large advertising board or the containers and caravans with sky dishes fitted well what are friends for if they cannot help out sometimes. We thought it was an accomodation business renting to contractors and the like but no they are helping the homeless and training kids and anyway all the people can live in the new headquarters at the Billet so no problem really. luckyforme
  • Score: 0

5:15pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Jb66 says...

I've now heard that more than one councillor is involved with the club but think I will save the latest info for the meetings. Transparency not the council's strong point is it.
I've now heard that more than one councillor is involved with the club but think I will save the latest info for the meetings. Transparency not the council's strong point is it. Jb66
  • Score: 2

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