Some south Essex prisoners being sent out of county due to Chelmsford Prison "population issue"

No room here - prisoners being sent out of Essex

No room here - prisoners being sent out of Essex

First published in Echo News by , Senior reporter

SOME prisoners are being sent out of Essex due to a “population issue” in Chelmsford.

The Echo understands that some people remanded in custody by Southend magistrates last week have been sent to jails as far away as Bedford.

The prison service said there was not an issue with receiving offenders at Chelmsford, but a spokeswoman clarified that some offenders were being sent to other centres as part of a “management of the prison population”, a “common” move.

The Ministry of Justice closed a wing at Chelmsford Prison last year.

A Prison Service statement said: “We have enough space to accommodate all offenders.

"We continue to modernise the prison estate so it delivers best value for the taxpayer, and are building house-blocks for 1,260 prisoners across four prisons and a 2,100-place prison in Wrexham.”

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4:04pm Thu 27 Mar 14

runwellian says...

If they didn't break the law they wouldn't go to prison, so where they are sent is of no importance!
If they didn't break the law they wouldn't go to prison, so where they are sent is of no importance! runwellian
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4:12pm Thu 27 Mar 14

Nebs says...

runwellian wrote:
If they didn't break the law they wouldn't go to prison, so where they are sent is of no importance!
But it is. The human rights of their family to visit them.

We could solve the prison overcrowding problem, and at the same time solve the problem of our foreign aid being taken by those in power, by using our foreign aid money to build prisons in developing countries. It would create building work in those countries, and then long term jobs for locals as prison warders. Still be cheaper to fly the prisoners out and back, compared to what it costs to keep them here.
[quote][p][bold]runwellian[/bold] wrote: If they didn't break the law they wouldn't go to prison, so where they are sent is of no importance![/p][/quote]But it is. The human rights of their family to visit them. We could solve the prison overcrowding problem, and at the same time solve the problem of our foreign aid being taken by those in power, by using our foreign aid money to build prisons in developing countries. It would create building work in those countries, and then long term jobs for locals as prison warders. Still be cheaper to fly the prisoners out and back, compared to what it costs to keep them here. Nebs
  • Score: -5

4:20pm Thu 27 Mar 14

Jack222 says...

It's also an economic issue - I strongly suspect that we will have to pay more for prisoners to be jailed outside the county than in.

And the idea of building jails overseas is pointless for so many reasons...
It's also an economic issue - I strongly suspect that we will have to pay more for prisoners to be jailed outside the county than in. And the idea of building jails overseas is pointless for so many reasons... Jack222
  • Score: 0

4:47pm Thu 27 Mar 14

Living the La Vida Legra says...

Who cares where they go? They have lost the right to choose where they stay, Tough! Don't brake the Law, and you can see your family anytime you like. But these people have made a choice not to see their familys
Who cares where they go? They have lost the right to choose where they stay, Tough! Don't brake the Law, and you can see your family anytime you like. But these people have made a choice not to see their familys Living the La Vida Legra
  • Score: 2

5:11pm Thu 27 Mar 14

Kim Gandy says...

Living the La Vida Legra wrote:
Who cares where they go? They have lost the right to choose where they stay, Tough! Don't brake the Law, and you can see your family anytime you like. But these people have made a choice not to see their familys
Quite right!
[quote][p][bold]Living the La Vida Legra[/bold] wrote: Who cares where they go? They have lost the right to choose where they stay, Tough! Don't brake the Law, and you can see your family anytime you like. But these people have made a choice not to see their familys[/p][/quote]Quite right! Kim Gandy
  • Score: -2

5:12pm Thu 27 Mar 14

carnmountyouknowitmakessense says...

Why not let the Police stations house them, like they did back in the 90's......
Why not let the Police stations house them, like they did back in the 90's...... carnmountyouknowitmakessense
  • Score: 0

8:05pm Thu 27 Mar 14

Nebs says...

Jack222 wrote:
It's also an economic issue - I strongly suspect that we will have to pay more for prisoners to be jailed outside the county than in.

And the idea of building jails overseas is pointless for so many reasons...
Not at all. You use the foreign aid budget to build the jails, money that you would be sending out there anyway, only now it is used to provide employment for builders rather than being pocketed by those at the top of the food chain.

The running costs of a prison in a developing country is well under our £40k a year per prisoner, even including the flights there and back.

Everyones a winner.
[quote][p][bold]Jack222[/bold] wrote: It's also an economic issue - I strongly suspect that we will have to pay more for prisoners to be jailed outside the county than in. And the idea of building jails overseas is pointless for so many reasons...[/p][/quote]Not at all. You use the foreign aid budget to build the jails, money that you would be sending out there anyway, only now it is used to provide employment for builders rather than being pocketed by those at the top of the food chain. The running costs of a prison in a developing country is well under our £40k a year per prisoner, even including the flights there and back. Everyones a winner. Nebs
  • Score: 2

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