Eviction attempt costly for council

Southend Standard: Eviction attempt costly for council Eviction attempt costly for council

TAXPAYERS' cash is being spent trying to evict a council tenant from a flat in Southend.

Southend Council has been faced with costly legal bills over its efforts to evict Robert Armour from Bewley Court, in Whittingham Avenue.

The council has been trying to remove Mr Armour after alleging two years ago in Southend County Court he was “abusive and threatening” towards neighbours and rude to council staff.

The council lost that case and a subsequent attempt to get that ruling overturned by the High Court, in London, also failed. The council is now taking the case to the Court of Appeal.

In Mr Armour’s defence, one neighbour has claimed their floor of the tower block is “one of the best in the building” and “generally quite quiet”, with few antisocial behaviour problems.

Among the council’s claims is that in March 2011, electricians working at Mr Armour’s flat complained he put them in danger by turning the power back on while they were still working.

Mr Armour has denied all the allegations.

The council applied to Southend County Court for a possession order for his flat in March 2012.

The judge concluded the council’s decision to evict him was “appropriate, proportionate and lawful”.

However, after hearing evidence of Mr Armour’s subsequent good behaviour in the year since the events the council had complained about, the judge refused to grant the eviction order.

When the case came before the Court of Appeal this week, the council’s lawyer, Nicholas Grundy, argued the improvement in Mr Armour’s behaviour had not been enough to allow him to keep his home.

He also disputed Mr Armour’s right to a settled family life under the European Convention on Human Rights would be violated by his eviction.

After several hours of legal debate, Lords Justice Sullivan, McFarlane and Lewison announced they would rule on the case at a later date.

Southend Council said it was unable to reveal the cost of the case as it is still ongoing.

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3:04pm Mon 10 Mar 14

ThisYear says...

Surely it is understood that EVERYTHING the council does is paid for by taxpayers money...ie by everybody...

Why does it have to be reiterated as if the council sometimes pay's for things itself...
Surely it is understood that EVERYTHING the council does is paid for by taxpayers money...ie by everybody... Why does it have to be reiterated as if the council sometimes pay's for things itself... ThisYear
  • Score: 19

4:03pm Mon 10 Mar 14

emcee says...

I dare say there are far more tenants that need evicting from these council tower blocks. Would it not save time, money and energy doing them all at the same time.
It is about time the council had a zero tolerance attitude to anti-social tenants.
I dare say there are far more tenants that need evicting from these council tower blocks. Would it not save time, money and energy doing them all at the same time. It is about time the council had a zero tolerance attitude to anti-social tenants. emcee
  • Score: 32

4:36pm Mon 10 Mar 14

GrumpyofLeigh says...

I dare say also that there are few pubs in Southend where you could find someone to do the eviction job for 50 quid - they would probably supply their own baseball bat as well.
I dare say also that there are few pubs in Southend where you could find someone to do the eviction job for 50 quid - they would probably supply their own baseball bat as well. GrumpyofLeigh
  • Score: 8

4:38pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Matthew S. Dent says...

"TAXPAYERS' cash is being spent trying to evict a council tenant from a flat in Southend."

As opposed to what? Magic beans?
"TAXPAYERS' cash is being spent trying to evict a council tenant from a flat in Southend." As opposed to what? Magic beans? Matthew S. Dent
  • Score: 23

4:43pm Mon 10 Mar 14

profondo asbo says...

a simple eviction via the 10th floor window would appear to be the most appropriate solution.
a simple eviction via the 10th floor window would appear to be the most appropriate solution. profondo asbo
  • Score: 10

4:49pm Mon 10 Mar 14

DogsMessInLeigh says...

profondo asbo wrote:
a simple eviction via the 10th floor window would appear to be the most appropriate solution.
Trouble is he is on the ground floor.
[quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: a simple eviction via the 10th floor window would appear to be the most appropriate solution.[/p][/quote]Trouble is he is on the ground floor. DogsMessInLeigh
  • Score: 10

4:54pm Mon 10 Mar 14

ThisYear says...

profondo asbo wrote:
a simple eviction via the 10th floor window would appear to be the most appropriate solution.
Wouldnt that be a criminal act?
[quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: a simple eviction via the 10th floor window would appear to be the most appropriate solution.[/p][/quote]Wouldnt that be a criminal act? ThisYear
  • Score: -15

5:14pm Mon 10 Mar 14

DogsMessInLeigh says...

ThisYear wrote:
profondo asbo wrote:
a simple eviction via the 10th floor window would appear to be the most appropriate solution.
Wouldnt that be a criminal act?
So is abusing animals.
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: a simple eviction via the 10th floor window would appear to be the most appropriate solution.[/p][/quote]Wouldnt that be a criminal act?[/p][/quote]So is abusing animals. DogsMessInLeigh
  • Score: 12

5:50pm Mon 10 Mar 14

carnmountyouknowitmakessense says...

Send in some beefy bailiffs, grab his soiled hoodie, and drag the druggie scumbag out..
Send in some beefy bailiffs, grab his soiled hoodie, and drag the druggie scumbag out.. carnmountyouknowitmakessense
  • Score: 15

5:58pm Mon 10 Mar 14

ThisYear says...

DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
profondo asbo wrote:
a simple eviction via the 10th floor window would appear to be the most appropriate solution.
Wouldnt that be a criminal act?
So is abusing animals.
So is racial abuse..
[quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: a simple eviction via the 10th floor window would appear to be the most appropriate solution.[/p][/quote]Wouldnt that be a criminal act?[/p][/quote]So is abusing animals.[/p][/quote]So is racial abuse.. ThisYear
  • Score: -15

6:12pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Ed Woods says...

I thought the money would come from the Housing revenue account - ie from the money raised from rents. All expenditure for council houses is paid for by the money raised from rent and not by council tax. Money raised from rents can't be spent on other council services as it is ring fenced and vice versa. If I am wrong please correct me.
I thought the money would come from the Housing revenue account - ie from the money raised from rents. All expenditure for council houses is paid for by the money raised from rent and not by council tax. Money raised from rents can't be spent on other council services as it is ring fenced and vice versa. If I am wrong please correct me. Ed Woods
  • Score: 3

6:37pm Mon 10 Mar 14

ThisYear says...

ThisYear wrote:
DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
profondo asbo wrote:
a simple eviction via the 10th floor window would appear to be the most appropriate solution.
Wouldnt that be a criminal act?
So is abusing animals.
So is racial abuse..
To all the down-thumber; Sorry racial abuse is a criminal act...perhaps you can write to your tory MP to see if he can get that changed..failing that, why don't you all chip in and buy a time machines and transport back.."beam us up Adolf"

Lol.
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: a simple eviction via the 10th floor window would appear to be the most appropriate solution.[/p][/quote]Wouldnt that be a criminal act?[/p][/quote]So is abusing animals.[/p][/quote]So is racial abuse..[/p][/quote]To all the down-thumber; Sorry racial abuse is a criminal act...perhaps you can write to your tory MP to see if he can get that changed..failing that, why don't you all chip in and buy a time machines and transport back.."beam us up Adolf" Lol. ThisYear
  • Score: -14

7:31pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Almeda11 says...

ThisYear wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
profondo asbo wrote: a simple eviction via the 10th floor window would appear to be the most appropriate solution.
Wouldnt that be a criminal act?
So is abusing animals.
So is racial abuse..
To all the down-thumber; Sorry racial abuse is a criminal act...perhaps you can write to your tory MP to see if he can get that changed..failing that, why don't you all chip in and buy a time machines and transport back.."beam us up Adolf" Lol.
l completely agree with you, and anyone who seriously advocates violence is plain stupid, as THEY would be hauled up before the judge and sentenced, and rightly so. That would be MURDER, FAR WORSE than any anti social behaviour, and just shows the level of maturity, ie immature of people of that mentality.
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: a simple eviction via the 10th floor window would appear to be the most appropriate solution.[/p][/quote]Wouldnt that be a criminal act?[/p][/quote]So is abusing animals.[/p][/quote]So is racial abuse..[/p][/quote]To all the down-thumber; Sorry racial abuse is a criminal act...perhaps you can write to your tory MP to see if he can get that changed..failing that, why don't you all chip in and buy a time machines and transport back.."beam us up Adolf" Lol.[/p][/quote]l completely agree with you, and anyone who seriously advocates violence is plain stupid, as THEY would be hauled up before the judge and sentenced, and rightly so. That would be MURDER, FAR WORSE than any anti social behaviour, and just shows the level of maturity, ie immature of people of that mentality. Almeda11
  • Score: -8

7:35pm Mon 10 Mar 14

profondo asbo says...

Almeda11 wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
profondo asbo wrote: a simple eviction via the 10th floor window would appear to be the most appropriate solution.
Wouldnt that be a criminal act?
So is abusing animals.
So is racial abuse..
To all the down-thumber; Sorry racial abuse is a criminal act...perhaps you can write to your tory MP to see if he can get that changed..failing that, why don't you all chip in and buy a time machines and transport back.."beam us up Adolf" Lol.
l completely agree with you, and anyone who seriously advocates violence is plain stupid, as THEY would be hauled up before the judge and sentenced, and rightly so. That would be MURDER, FAR WORSE than any anti social behaviour, and just shows the level of maturity, ie immature of people of that mentality.
no... really?
[quote][p][bold]Almeda11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: a simple eviction via the 10th floor window would appear to be the most appropriate solution.[/p][/quote]Wouldnt that be a criminal act?[/p][/quote]So is abusing animals.[/p][/quote]So is racial abuse..[/p][/quote]To all the down-thumber; Sorry racial abuse is a criminal act...perhaps you can write to your tory MP to see if he can get that changed..failing that, why don't you all chip in and buy a time machines and transport back.."beam us up Adolf" Lol.[/p][/quote]l completely agree with you, and anyone who seriously advocates violence is plain stupid, as THEY would be hauled up before the judge and sentenced, and rightly so. That would be MURDER, FAR WORSE than any anti social behaviour, and just shows the level of maturity, ie immature of people of that mentality.[/p][/quote]no... really? profondo asbo
  • Score: 7

7:37pm Mon 10 Mar 14

profondo asbo says...

DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
profondo asbo wrote:
a simple eviction via the 10th floor window would appear to be the most appropriate solution.
Trouble is he is on the ground floor.
isn't that what the needle infested, urine soaked stairwells are for?
[quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: a simple eviction via the 10th floor window would appear to be the most appropriate solution.[/p][/quote]Trouble is he is on the ground floor.[/p][/quote]isn't that what the needle infested, urine soaked stairwells are for? profondo asbo
  • Score: 10

7:58pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Almeda11 says...

profondo asbo wrote:
Almeda11 wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
profondo asbo wrote: a simple eviction via the 10th floor window would appear to be the most appropriate solution.
Wouldnt that be a criminal act?
So is abusing animals.
So is racial abuse..
To all the down-thumber; Sorry racial abuse is a criminal act...perhaps you can write to your tory MP to see if he can get that changed..failing that, why don't you all chip in and buy a time machines and transport back.."beam us up Adolf" Lol.
l completely agree with you, and anyone who seriously advocates violence is plain stupid, as THEY would be hauled up before the judge and sentenced, and rightly so. That would be MURDER, FAR WORSE than any anti social behaviour, and just shows the level of maturity, ie immature of people of that mentality.
no... really?
GREAT vocabulary yoy have !! Yess, REALLY, and shame on anyone who advocates it, simple solutions for simple minds!.
[quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Almeda11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: a simple eviction via the 10th floor window would appear to be the most appropriate solution.[/p][/quote]Wouldnt that be a criminal act?[/p][/quote]So is abusing animals.[/p][/quote]So is racial abuse..[/p][/quote]To all the down-thumber; Sorry racial abuse is a criminal act...perhaps you can write to your tory MP to see if he can get that changed..failing that, why don't you all chip in and buy a time machines and transport back.."beam us up Adolf" Lol.[/p][/quote]l completely agree with you, and anyone who seriously advocates violence is plain stupid, as THEY would be hauled up before the judge and sentenced, and rightly so. That would be MURDER, FAR WORSE than any anti social behaviour, and just shows the level of maturity, ie immature of people of that mentality.[/p][/quote]no... really?[/p][/quote]GREAT vocabulary yoy have !! Yess, REALLY, and shame on anyone who advocates it, simple solutions for simple minds!. Almeda11
  • Score: -8

10:50pm Mon 10 Mar 14

ThisYear says...

ThisYear wrote:
profondo asbo wrote:
a simple eviction via the 10th floor window would appear to be the most appropriate solution.
Wouldnt that be a criminal act?
Nine people think throwing someone from a 10th floor window would not be a criminal act!

And yet these same people would malign resident of the flats..
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: a simple eviction via the 10th floor window would appear to be the most appropriate solution.[/p][/quote]Wouldnt that be a criminal act?[/p][/quote]Nine people think throwing someone from a 10th floor window would not be a criminal act! And yet these same people would malign resident of the flats.. ThisYear
  • Score: -4

8:49am Tue 11 Mar 14

kyprman says...

Ed Woods wrote:
I thought the money would come from the Housing revenue account - ie from the money raised from rents. All expenditure for council houses is paid for by the money raised from rent and not by council tax. Money raised from rents can't be spent on other council services as it is ring fenced and vice versa. If I am wrong please correct me.
You are completely correct Ed Woods. No Council Tax monies would have been spent on this action. It would all have come from the HRA. Therefore, the usual posters can wind their necks in.
[quote][p][bold]Ed Woods[/bold] wrote: I thought the money would come from the Housing revenue account - ie from the money raised from rents. All expenditure for council houses is paid for by the money raised from rent and not by council tax. Money raised from rents can't be spent on other council services as it is ring fenced and vice versa. If I am wrong please correct me.[/p][/quote]You are completely correct Ed Woods. No Council Tax monies would have been spent on this action. It would all have come from the HRA. Therefore, the usual posters can wind their necks in. kyprman
  • Score: 5

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