What happened when we spent a night out on patrol with the police...not an awful lot!

Southend Standard: What happened when we spent a night out on patrol with the police...not an awful lot! What happened when we spent a night out on patrol with the police...not an awful lot!

A common complaint is there are no bobbies on the beat anymore, but it’s just not true, say Leigh officers. PAUL NIZINSKYJ joined them on a night shift to see how policing has changed with tighter budgets and new gadgets.

“IF you do get into a hairy situation, make sure you don’t do anything to put yourself in danger,” says Inspector Brad Dickel.

The Leigh chief officer was briefing me on some of the possible pitfalls of joining two officers in a squad car for the evening, as they made their way around Leigh, keeping an eye out for the criminal element and hopefully catching some of them in the act.

He told his officers he wanted to see the use of stop and search that evening, so I prepared myself for some action.

As it happened, we ended up seeing more foxes than crooks, although it was a revealing look at how the force is dealing with burglary in Southend.

While officers do patrol certain areas on foot, much of the work is now done in cars, and plain clothes officers were also sent out on bicycles to keep an eye on the area.

So, even when you might not feel you see officers, it doesn’t mean they aren’t there.

PC Dave Lindsey said: “Part of what we do is look out for obvious things that might make a house a target.

“We see things other people don’t and we get a feel for what looks like an unoccupied house, which is what burglars look for.

“We also look for people and cars that look misplaced, perhaps they’re in an unusual place or are there at an unusual time.

Seeing the same person a couple of times while you’re out also arouses suspicion.”

As Leigh is perhaps one of the most diverse areas of Southend borough, we drive through areas of obvious wealth with large detached houses and some of the poorer areas of the district. The area we were driving through had been identified, by a computer programme, as being at-risk of burglary.

The system was introduced in October and has been used by the force to more efficiently deploy its beat officers. And, since burglars do not distinguish between rich and poor, neither does the software.

Dave said: “Within Leigh, you do get burglaries in the affluent areas, but also in the less affluent areas.

“Their choices are made on the vulnerability of the house, more than anything, meaning the targets are quite varied.

“It comes down to finding some way of deploying officers where there’s a good chance of success.”

As Inspector Dickel adds, however, there is only so much the police can do – especially with the force’s budget being cut again next year. A large part of their daily battle against crime is getting ordinary people to do their bit to protect themselves.

He said: “We’re really looking for the public to help us drive down crime.

“We’re finding a lot of properties have been prised open using things from an unsecured garden, which is easily avoidable, and a lot of house alarms are ignored as they’re seen as a nuisance.

“We’ve had burglaries where the alarm has sounded and no one has bothered checking.

“We would say don’t dismiss them.”

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9:34am Mon 6 Jan 14

supermadmax says...

Great idea but boring report.
Great idea but boring report. supermadmax
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10:48am Mon 6 Jan 14

TJFG66 says...

About the house alarms - my neighbour once posted a snooty note through my door saying my house alarm was going off AGAIN and to sort it out. I was out, so for all she knows, someone could have been in there! She's also called me before and told me to go back home and sort the alarm out....hmm
About the house alarms - my neighbour once posted a snooty note through my door saying my house alarm was going off AGAIN and to sort it out. I was out, so for all she knows, someone could have been in there! She's also called me before and told me to go back home and sort the alarm out....hmm TJFG66
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10:54am Mon 6 Jan 14

DogsMessInLeigh says...

Don't mention what night they went out, and was refreshing to read that plain clothes officers are cycling around at night, really would like to witness that though,(never spotted one on foot at night either) and also good to read regarding stop and search at night,but also try daytimes, as Phil and Nige says.: 'Crime won't crack itself'.
Don't mention what night they went out, and was refreshing to read that plain clothes officers are cycling around at night, really would like to witness that though,(never spotted one on foot at night either) and also good to read regarding stop and search at night,but also try daytimes, as Phil and Nige says.: 'Crime won't crack itself'. DogsMessInLeigh
  • Score: 1

11:42am Mon 6 Jan 14

Kim Gandy says...

TJFG66 wrote:
About the house alarms - my neighbour once posted a snooty note through my door saying my house alarm was going off AGAIN and to sort it out. I was out, so for all she knows, someone could have been in there! She's also called me before and told me to go back home and sort the alarm out....hmm
Er, ever had to put up with a continuously screeching alarm? Imagine, you're sitting there with your tea and biscuits enjoying an evening's telly when all of a sudden it starts.

Sounds to me like your alarm is always going off if she keeps on calling you, so she's right isn't she... get it sorted!
[quote][p][bold]TJFG66[/bold] wrote: About the house alarms - my neighbour once posted a snooty note through my door saying my house alarm was going off AGAIN and to sort it out. I was out, so for all she knows, someone could have been in there! She's also called me before and told me to go back home and sort the alarm out....hmm[/p][/quote]Er, ever had to put up with a continuously screeching alarm? Imagine, you're sitting there with your tea and biscuits enjoying an evening's telly when all of a sudden it starts. Sounds to me like your alarm is always going off if she keeps on calling you, so she's right isn't she... get it sorted! Kim Gandy
  • Score: 3

2:07pm Mon 6 Jan 14

Nelly99 says...

TJFG66 wrote:
About the house alarms - my neighbour once posted a snooty note through my door saying my house alarm was going off AGAIN and to sort it out. I was out, so for all she knows, someone could have been in there! She's also called me before and told me to go back home and sort the alarm out....hmm
Well I,m with her. If she said "again" it had probably gone off before too. I once lived in a road where several of my neighbours had alarms and you wouldn't believe the number of times they would go off for no reason and often in the middle of the night when nobody was home and they weren't being burgled! Just for the record, if they aren't connected to a security service they don't work, they just annoy the neighbours.
[quote][p][bold]TJFG66[/bold] wrote: About the house alarms - my neighbour once posted a snooty note through my door saying my house alarm was going off AGAIN and to sort it out. I was out, so for all she knows, someone could have been in there! She's also called me before and told me to go back home and sort the alarm out....hmm[/p][/quote]Well I,m with her. If she said "again" it had probably gone off before too. I once lived in a road where several of my neighbours had alarms and you wouldn't believe the number of times they would go off for no reason and often in the middle of the night when nobody was home and they weren't being burgled! Just for the record, if they aren't connected to a security service they don't work, they just annoy the neighbours. Nelly99
  • Score: 4

2:17pm Mon 6 Jan 14

Spledoink says...

DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
Don't mention what night they went out, and was refreshing to read that plain clothes officers are cycling around at night, really would like to witness that though,(never spotted one on foot at night either) and also good to read regarding stop and search at night,but also try daytimes, as Phil and Nige says.: 'Crime won't crack itself'.
Surely the idea is that people don't 'spot' plain clothes officers out on patrol !
Could be that if you haven't seen any, they are doing that bit of the job effectively. (Of course it could be that there aren't really any out there and its all a bit of flannel)
[quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: Don't mention what night they went out, and was refreshing to read that plain clothes officers are cycling around at night, really would like to witness that though,(never spotted one on foot at night either) and also good to read regarding stop and search at night,but also try daytimes, as Phil and Nige says.: 'Crime won't crack itself'.[/p][/quote]Surely the idea is that people don't 'spot' plain clothes officers out on patrol ! Could be that if you haven't seen any, they are doing that bit of the job effectively. (Of course it could be that there aren't really any out there and its all a bit of flannel) Spledoink
  • Score: 8

2:48pm Mon 6 Jan 14

LastLaugh2 says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
TJFG66 wrote:
About the house alarms - my neighbour once posted a snooty note through my door saying my house alarm was going off AGAIN and to sort it out. I was out, so for all she knows, someone could have been in there! She's also called me before and told me to go back home and sort the alarm out....hmm
Er, ever had to put up with a continuously screeching alarm? Imagine, you're sitting there with your tea and biscuits enjoying an evening's telly when all of a sudden it starts.

Sounds to me like your alarm is always going off if she keeps on calling you, so she's right isn't she... get it sorted!
Most house alarms going off, are ignored, as so often they are false alarms, cry wolf, imagine if the police went to every house alarm, they'd be doing only that, all the time.
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TJFG66[/bold] wrote: About the house alarms - my neighbour once posted a snooty note through my door saying my house alarm was going off AGAIN and to sort it out. I was out, so for all she knows, someone could have been in there! She's also called me before and told me to go back home and sort the alarm out....hmm[/p][/quote]Er, ever had to put up with a continuously screeching alarm? Imagine, you're sitting there with your tea and biscuits enjoying an evening's telly when all of a sudden it starts. Sounds to me like your alarm is always going off if she keeps on calling you, so she's right isn't she... get it sorted![/p][/quote]Most house alarms going off, are ignored, as so often they are false alarms, cry wolf, imagine if the police went to every house alarm, they'd be doing only that, all the time. LastLaugh2
  • Score: 2

3:05pm Mon 6 Jan 14

DogsMessInLeigh says...

LastLaugh2 wrote:
Kim Gandy wrote:
TJFG66 wrote:
About the house alarms - my neighbour once posted a snooty note through my door saying my house alarm was going off AGAIN and to sort it out. I was out, so for all she knows, someone could have been in there! She's also called me before and told me to go back home and sort the alarm out....hmm
Er, ever had to put up with a continuously screeching alarm? Imagine, you're sitting there with your tea and biscuits enjoying an evening's telly when all of a sudden it starts.

Sounds to me like your alarm is always going off if she keeps on calling you, so she's right isn't she... get it sorted!
Most house alarms going off, are ignored, as so often they are false alarms, cry wolf, imagine if the police went to every house alarm, they'd be doing only that, all the time.
I believe they should stop after 50 minutes and reset themselves.
[quote][p][bold]LastLaugh2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TJFG66[/bold] wrote: About the house alarms - my neighbour once posted a snooty note through my door saying my house alarm was going off AGAIN and to sort it out. I was out, so for all she knows, someone could have been in there! She's also called me before and told me to go back home and sort the alarm out....hmm[/p][/quote]Er, ever had to put up with a continuously screeching alarm? Imagine, you're sitting there with your tea and biscuits enjoying an evening's telly when all of a sudden it starts. Sounds to me like your alarm is always going off if she keeps on calling you, so she's right isn't she... get it sorted![/p][/quote]Most house alarms going off, are ignored, as so often they are false alarms, cry wolf, imagine if the police went to every house alarm, they'd be doing only that, all the time.[/p][/quote]I believe they should stop after 50 minutes and reset themselves. DogsMessInLeigh
  • Score: 1

3:09pm Mon 6 Jan 14

Illegal And Proud says...

I've noticed the scum (police) always seem to be around when you don't want them and never around when you do. Not like I would contact them anyway. Criminals like me dish out the deeds, not recieve them.
I've noticed the scum (police) always seem to be around when you don't want them and never around when you do. Not like I would contact them anyway. Criminals like me dish out the deeds, not recieve them. Illegal And Proud
  • Score: -10

7:27pm Mon 6 Jan 14

LastLaugh,,, says...

Spledoink wrote:
DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
Don't mention what night they went out, and was refreshing to read that plain clothes officers are cycling around at night, really would like to witness that though,(never spotted one on foot at night either) and also good to read regarding stop and search at night,but also try daytimes, as Phil and Nige says.: 'Crime won't crack itself'.
Surely the idea is that people don't 'spot' plain clothes officers out on patrol !
Could be that if you haven't seen any, they are doing that bit of the job effectively. (Of course it could be that there aren't really any out there and its all a bit of flannel)
Dogmess has a tendency to post such puerile comments...ie

"The experts say 8 toed frogs are now extinct..is this the case? Iv never seen one"
[quote][p][bold]Spledoink[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: Don't mention what night they went out, and was refreshing to read that plain clothes officers are cycling around at night, really would like to witness that though,(never spotted one on foot at night either) and also good to read regarding stop and search at night,but also try daytimes, as Phil and Nige says.: 'Crime won't crack itself'.[/p][/quote]Surely the idea is that people don't 'spot' plain clothes officers out on patrol ! Could be that if you haven't seen any, they are doing that bit of the job effectively. (Of course it could be that there aren't really any out there and its all a bit of flannel)[/p][/quote]Dogmess has a tendency to post such puerile comments...ie "The experts say 8 toed frogs are now extinct..is this the case? Iv never seen one" LastLaugh,,,
  • Score: 0

8:29pm Mon 6 Jan 14

LastLaugh2 says...

DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
LastLaugh2 wrote:
Kim Gandy wrote:
TJFG66 wrote:
About the house alarms - my neighbour once posted a snooty note through my door saying my house alarm was going off AGAIN and to sort it out. I was out, so for all she knows, someone could have been in there! She's also called me before and told me to go back home and sort the alarm out....hmm
Er, ever had to put up with a continuously screeching alarm? Imagine, you're sitting there with your tea and biscuits enjoying an evening's telly when all of a sudden it starts.

Sounds to me like your alarm is always going off if she keeps on calling you, so she's right isn't she... get it sorted!
Most house alarms going off, are ignored, as so often they are false alarms, cry wolf, imagine if the police went to every house alarm, they'd be doing only that, all the time.
I believe they should stop after 50 minutes and reset themselves.
Reminds me of my ex, she would screech on and on, with a Gin in one hand, and a cigarette in the other, though after about 50 minutes, would reset herself, on the bed..
[quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LastLaugh2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TJFG66[/bold] wrote: About the house alarms - my neighbour once posted a snooty note through my door saying my house alarm was going off AGAIN and to sort it out. I was out, so for all she knows, someone could have been in there! She's also called me before and told me to go back home and sort the alarm out....hmm[/p][/quote]Er, ever had to put up with a continuously screeching alarm? Imagine, you're sitting there with your tea and biscuits enjoying an evening's telly when all of a sudden it starts. Sounds to me like your alarm is always going off if she keeps on calling you, so she's right isn't she... get it sorted![/p][/quote]Most house alarms going off, are ignored, as so often they are false alarms, cry wolf, imagine if the police went to every house alarm, they'd be doing only that, all the time.[/p][/quote]I believe they should stop after 50 minutes and reset themselves.[/p][/quote]Reminds me of my ex, she would screech on and on, with a Gin in one hand, and a cigarette in the other, though after about 50 minutes, would reset herself, on the bed.. LastLaugh2
  • Score: 1

9:46pm Mon 6 Jan 14

DogsMessInLeigh says...

LastLaugh,,, wrote:
Spledoink wrote:
DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
Don't mention what night they went out, and was refreshing to read that plain clothes officers are cycling around at night, really would like to witness that though,(never spotted one on foot at night either) and also good to read regarding stop and search at night,but also try daytimes, as Phil and Nige says.: 'Crime won't crack itself'.
Surely the idea is that people don't 'spot' plain clothes officers out on patrol !
Could be that if you haven't seen any, they are doing that bit of the job effectively. (Of course it could be that there aren't really any out there and its all a bit of flannel)
Dogmess has a tendency to post such puerile comments...ie

"The experts say 8 toed frogs are now extinct..is this the case? Iv never seen one"
what you babbling on about now man, surely you need to concentrate on your multiple user accounts and argue with yourself rather than worry about me.
[quote][p][bold]LastLaugh,,,[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Spledoink[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: Don't mention what night they went out, and was refreshing to read that plain clothes officers are cycling around at night, really would like to witness that though,(never spotted one on foot at night either) and also good to read regarding stop and search at night,but also try daytimes, as Phil and Nige says.: 'Crime won't crack itself'.[/p][/quote]Surely the idea is that people don't 'spot' plain clothes officers out on patrol ! Could be that if you haven't seen any, they are doing that bit of the job effectively. (Of course it could be that there aren't really any out there and its all a bit of flannel)[/p][/quote]Dogmess has a tendency to post such puerile comments...ie "The experts say 8 toed frogs are now extinct..is this the case? Iv never seen one"[/p][/quote]what you babbling on about now man, surely you need to concentrate on your multiple user accounts and argue with yourself rather than worry about me. DogsMessInLeigh
  • Score: -1

11:51pm Mon 6 Jan 14

Warriorisback says...

Illegal And Proud wrote:
I've noticed the scum (police) always seem to be around when you don't want them and never around when you do. Not like I would contact them anyway. Criminals like me dish out the deeds, not recieve them.
You are scum, and so is your mother.
[quote][p][bold]Illegal And Proud[/bold] wrote: I've noticed the scum (police) always seem to be around when you don't want them and never around when you do. Not like I would contact them anyway. Criminals like me dish out the deeds, not recieve them.[/p][/quote]You are scum, and so is your mother. Warriorisback
  • Score: -1

2:24pm Tue 7 Jan 14

LastLaugh,,, says...

DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
LastLaugh,,, wrote:
Spledoink wrote:
DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
Don't mention what night they went out, and was refreshing to read that plain clothes officers are cycling around at night, really would like to witness that though,(never spotted one on foot at night either) and also good to read regarding stop and search at night,but also try daytimes, as Phil and Nige says.: 'Crime won't crack itself'.
Surely the idea is that people don't 'spot' plain clothes officers out on patrol !
Could be that if you haven't seen any, they are doing that bit of the job effectively. (Of course it could be that there aren't really any out there and its all a bit of flannel)
Dogmess has a tendency to post such puerile comments...ie

"The experts say 8 toed frogs are now extinct..is this the case? Iv never seen one"
what you babbling on about now man, surely you need to concentrate on your multiple user accounts and argue with yourself rather than worry about me.
It would seem it is only you who cannot tell the difference between the similar named poster...which says a lot for you...or should that be..doesn't!
[quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LastLaugh,,,[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Spledoink[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: Don't mention what night they went out, and was refreshing to read that plain clothes officers are cycling around at night, really would like to witness that though,(never spotted one on foot at night either) and also good to read regarding stop and search at night,but also try daytimes, as Phil and Nige says.: 'Crime won't crack itself'.[/p][/quote]Surely the idea is that people don't 'spot' plain clothes officers out on patrol ! Could be that if you haven't seen any, they are doing that bit of the job effectively. (Of course it could be that there aren't really any out there and its all a bit of flannel)[/p][/quote]Dogmess has a tendency to post such puerile comments...ie "The experts say 8 toed frogs are now extinct..is this the case? Iv never seen one"[/p][/quote]what you babbling on about now man, surely you need to concentrate on your multiple user accounts and argue with yourself rather than worry about me.[/p][/quote]It would seem it is only you who cannot tell the difference between the similar named poster...which says a lot for you...or should that be..doesn't! LastLaugh,,,
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