Police arrested 600 over-65s in 5 years...is it a sign older people have been hit hardest by recession?

Police arrested 600 over-65s in 5 years...is it a sign older people have been hit hardest by recession?

Police arrested 600 over-65s in 5 years...is it a sign older people have been hit hardest by recession?

First published in Echo News

HUNDREDS of pensioners have been arrested in south Essex over the past five years.

While younger people are often characterised as being responsible for crime, figures released under the Freedom of Information Act show there were 600 arrests of people over 65 between the end of March 2008 and the beginning of April 2013.

Those picked up by the police included a 90-year-old man for drink driving, in Basildon, an 82- year-old for possessing an offensive weapon in Basildon and an 87-yearold for causing actual bodily harm in Southend.

Of the crimes – 90 were for theft – suggesting the effects of the recession may be fuelling some of the incidents.

Derek Iles, 77, of Brightwell Avenue, Westcliff, is active among pensioners’ groups.

He said: “I’m surprised to hear that is the case. I find it difficult to live myself.

“I’ve only got about £1.77 to last me over the next few days, but I keep the gas topped up and I wouldn’t dream of stealing.

“No one I know goes around a supermarket dropping things into their basket and not paying for them.

“I think there may be other underlying issues with alcohol and things like that.

“But if pensioners are now resorting to theft, that may show something is seriously wrong with the system of benefits and pensions.”

Incidents included: Peter Barrett, 66, of The Close, Hockley, was given a curfew order in October after threatening a neighbour with an airgun David Bromley, 67, of Dennises Lane, South Ockenden, was fined £350 at Basildon Crown Court in August for possessing an unlicensed air gun, which was repaired by police so it could be tested Suchay Hunyh, 66, of Manor Avenue, Basildon, was fined £750 in January 2013 for punching a female traffic warden in Southend.

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6:25am Fri 3 Jan 14

Leon__ says...

Important story! Abroad, I often saw some pensioners struggling to survive on whatever pensions they may have been getting. Some (illegally) sold vegetables or other wares in the street on the pavements or makeshift fruit crate stalls while keeping an eye out for the authorities. Worst of all, in all weathers, many used old prams as carts and routinely went through blocks of flats' dustbins to then sell whatever they can find. Although some Brit pensioners do very well, too many suffer 'heat or eat'' lifestyles and hardship. That should be a huge embarrassment to any society and government in this day and age.
Important story! Abroad, I often saw some pensioners struggling to survive on whatever pensions they may have been getting. Some (illegally) sold vegetables or other wares in the street on the pavements or makeshift fruit crate stalls while keeping an eye out for the authorities. Worst of all, in all weathers, many used old prams as carts and routinely went through blocks of flats' dustbins to then sell whatever they can find. Although some Brit pensioners do very well, too many suffer 'heat or eat'' lifestyles and hardship. That should be a huge embarrassment to any society and government in this day and age. Leon__
  • Score: 8

7:51am Fri 3 Jan 14

Blind Haze says...

Or maybe it's just a sign that we have more pensioners as people are living longer.
Or maybe it's just a sign that we have more pensioners as people are living longer. Blind Haze
  • Score: 3

7:55am Fri 3 Jan 14

Nowthatsworthknowing says...

They've had all their lives to sort out their savings, age can NEVER be an excuse for criminality.
They've had all their lives to sort out their savings, age can NEVER be an excuse for criminality. Nowthatsworthknowing
  • Score: -10

8:10am Fri 3 Jan 14

smiffy1980 says...

Now usually when a story of theft comes up, alot of people come on here to say things like "get this scum off the streets" "lock these cretens up as they are the scum of the earth" etc etc etc............

Now lets see the reaction because these people here are pensioners. To me it makes no difference. Theft is theft and all should be treated the same. If anything, these people mentioned have lived their working lives, so should of planned better for their retirement. Theres no excuse..........
Now usually when a story of theft comes up, alot of people come on here to say things like "get this scum off the streets" "lock these cretens up as they are the scum of the earth" etc etc etc............ Now lets see the reaction because these people here are pensioners. To me it makes no difference. Theft is theft and all should be treated the same. If anything, these people mentioned have lived their working lives, so should of planned better for their retirement. Theres no excuse.......... smiffy1980
  • Score: -5

8:45am Fri 3 Jan 14

supermadmax says...

The 65 year olds of today were getting smashed in the 60's on lsd and had icons including the krays, richardsons and train robbers.
The 65 year olds of today were getting smashed in the 60's on lsd and had icons including the krays, richardsons and train robbers. supermadmax
  • Score: 1

9:36am Fri 3 Jan 14

fletch12107 says...

600 in 5 years = 120 a year or 1 every 3 days hardly newsworthy is it. When you consider what minor infringement you can be arrested for now days. I wonder how many were charged with an offence. I know that when targets were set by Essex Police for arrests these were easy targets as they offer the least resistance. I am now guessing that most over 65's who are struggling with bills and keeping their houses warm might as well get nicked because they will be fed and kept warm in custody/prison free of charge.
600 in 5 years = 120 a year or 1 every 3 days hardly newsworthy is it. When you consider what minor infringement you can be arrested for now days. I wonder how many were charged with an offence. I know that when targets were set by Essex Police for arrests these were easy targets as they offer the least resistance. I am now guessing that most over 65's who are struggling with bills and keeping their houses warm might as well get nicked because they will be fed and kept warm in custody/prison free of charge. fletch12107
  • Score: 2

10:30am Fri 3 Jan 14

MattBell says...

How many have been done for public offences? Like swearing or talking their mind. They don't count.
How many have been done for public offences? Like swearing or talking their mind. They don't count. MattBell
  • Score: 1

12:21pm Fri 3 Jan 14

Kim Gandy says...

Nowthatsworthknowing wrote:
They've had all their lives to sort out their savings, age can NEVER be an excuse for criminality.
Cobblers. Utter cobblers.

Many people struggle all their lives and are not fortunate to be in a position to save anything for their old age.

Lots of employers now exploit cheap foreign labour and do not have proper pension schemes in place. Yes you can take out private pensions but again, if your money is stretched to the limit, you end up paying for just the essentials of life.

Either you are on a nice fat screw in terms of wages or you are living on another planet.

Or worse still, perhaps you are on benefits and preaching to the rest of us.

The elderly are by far the worst off in this country. I've worked alongside and helped families who have had to sell the homes of their parents to pay for their care. I have seen the distress it has caused.

Most people who comment on this subject have no idea what they are talking about unless they have seen it close up.

And the usual mob - I suppose you will regurgitate the usual crap and try and portray me as something I'm not AGAIN.

I leave it to the decent people who comment on this website to form their own judgement on your comments,

Most of all, I care most about the opinions of people who actually KNOW me, not idiots who read a lot of rubbish online and swallow it as the truth. Such people are thick and beneath my intelligence.
[quote][p][bold]Nowthatsworthknowing[/bold] wrote: They've had all their lives to sort out their savings, age can NEVER be an excuse for criminality.[/p][/quote]Cobblers. Utter cobblers. Many people struggle all their lives and are not fortunate to be in a position to save anything for their old age. Lots of employers now exploit cheap foreign labour and do not have proper pension schemes in place. Yes you can take out private pensions but again, if your money is stretched to the limit, you end up paying for just the essentials of life. Either you are on a nice fat screw in terms of wages or you are living on another planet. Or worse still, perhaps you are on benefits and preaching to the rest of us. The elderly are by far the worst off in this country. I've worked alongside and helped families who have had to sell the homes of their parents to pay for their care. I have seen the distress it has caused. Most people who comment on this subject have no idea what they are talking about unless they have seen it close up. And the usual mob - I suppose you will regurgitate the usual crap and try and portray me as something I'm not AGAIN. I leave it to the decent people who comment on this website to form their own judgement on your comments, Most of all, I care most about the opinions of people who actually KNOW me, not idiots who read a lot of rubbish online and swallow it as the truth. Such people are thick and beneath my intelligence. Kim Gandy
  • Score: -1

12:25pm Fri 3 Jan 14

Nowthatsworthknowing says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
Nowthatsworthknowing wrote:
They've had all their lives to sort out their savings, age can NEVER be an excuse for criminality.
Cobblers. Utter cobblers.

Many people struggle all their lives and are not fortunate to be in a position to save anything for their old age.

Lots of employers now exploit cheap foreign labour and do not have proper pension schemes in place. Yes you can take out private pensions but again, if your money is stretched to the limit, you end up paying for just the essentials of life.

Either you are on a nice fat screw in terms of wages or you are living on another planet.

Or worse still, perhaps you are on benefits and preaching to the rest of us.

The elderly are by far the worst off in this country. I've worked alongside and helped families who have had to sell the homes of their parents to pay for their care. I have seen the distress it has caused.

Most people who comment on this subject have no idea what they are talking about unless they have seen it close up.

And the usual mob - I suppose you will regurgitate the usual crap and try and portray me as something I'm not AGAIN.

I leave it to the decent people who comment on this website to form their own judgement on your comments,

Most of all, I care most about the opinions of people who actually KNOW me, not idiots who read a lot of rubbish online and swallow it as the truth. Such people are thick and beneath my intelligence.
They've never had it so easy, and still find matters to moan about, they get help with food shelter health, so don't start your "oh they suffer so much" lark here...
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nowthatsworthknowing[/bold] wrote: They've had all their lives to sort out their savings, age can NEVER be an excuse for criminality.[/p][/quote]Cobblers. Utter cobblers. Many people struggle all their lives and are not fortunate to be in a position to save anything for their old age. Lots of employers now exploit cheap foreign labour and do not have proper pension schemes in place. Yes you can take out private pensions but again, if your money is stretched to the limit, you end up paying for just the essentials of life. Either you are on a nice fat screw in terms of wages or you are living on another planet. Or worse still, perhaps you are on benefits and preaching to the rest of us. The elderly are by far the worst off in this country. I've worked alongside and helped families who have had to sell the homes of their parents to pay for their care. I have seen the distress it has caused. Most people who comment on this subject have no idea what they are talking about unless they have seen it close up. And the usual mob - I suppose you will regurgitate the usual crap and try and portray me as something I'm not AGAIN. I leave it to the decent people who comment on this website to form their own judgement on your comments, Most of all, I care most about the opinions of people who actually KNOW me, not idiots who read a lot of rubbish online and swallow it as the truth. Such people are thick and beneath my intelligence.[/p][/quote]They've never had it so easy, and still find matters to moan about, they get help with food shelter health, so don't start your "oh they suffer so much" lark here... Nowthatsworthknowing
  • Score: -2

1:46pm Fri 3 Jan 14

LastIaugh,,. says...

Don't forget - even horrid people grow old - I'm proof of that.

How old was Ronnie Biggs when he finally (thankfully) carked it??
Don't forget - even horrid people grow old - I'm proof of that. How old was Ronnie Biggs when he finally (thankfully) carked it?? LastIaugh,,.
  • Score: 3

2:51pm Fri 3 Jan 14

God of Shoplifting says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
Nowthatsworthknowing wrote:
They've had all their lives to sort out their savings, age can NEVER be an excuse for criminality.
Cobblers. Utter cobblers.

Many people struggle all their lives and are not fortunate to be in a position to save anything for their old age.

Lots of employers now exploit cheap foreign labour and do not have proper pension schemes in place. Yes you can take out private pensions but again, if your money is stretched to the limit, you end up paying for just the essentials of life.

Either you are on a nice fat screw in terms of wages or you are living on another planet.

Or worse still, perhaps you are on benefits and preaching to the rest of us.

The elderly are by far the worst off in this country. I've worked alongside and helped families who have had to sell the homes of their parents to pay for their care. I have seen the distress it has caused.

Most people who comment on this subject have no idea what they are talking about unless they have seen it close up.

And the usual mob - I suppose you will regurgitate the usual crap and try and portray me as something I'm not AGAIN.

I leave it to the decent people who comment on this website to form their own judgement on your comments,

Most of all, I care most about the opinions of people who actually KNOW me, not idiots who read a lot of rubbish online and swallow it as the truth. Such people are thick and beneath my intelligence.
The bottom line is im a shoplifter and that will never change.
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nowthatsworthknowing[/bold] wrote: They've had all their lives to sort out their savings, age can NEVER be an excuse for criminality.[/p][/quote]Cobblers. Utter cobblers. Many people struggle all their lives and are not fortunate to be in a position to save anything for their old age. Lots of employers now exploit cheap foreign labour and do not have proper pension schemes in place. Yes you can take out private pensions but again, if your money is stretched to the limit, you end up paying for just the essentials of life. Either you are on a nice fat screw in terms of wages or you are living on another planet. Or worse still, perhaps you are on benefits and preaching to the rest of us. The elderly are by far the worst off in this country. I've worked alongside and helped families who have had to sell the homes of their parents to pay for their care. I have seen the distress it has caused. Most people who comment on this subject have no idea what they are talking about unless they have seen it close up. And the usual mob - I suppose you will regurgitate the usual crap and try and portray me as something I'm not AGAIN. I leave it to the decent people who comment on this website to form their own judgement on your comments, Most of all, I care most about the opinions of people who actually KNOW me, not idiots who read a lot of rubbish online and swallow it as the truth. Such people are thick and beneath my intelligence.[/p][/quote]The bottom line is im a shoplifter and that will never change. God of Shoplifting
  • Score: -2

4:51pm Fri 3 Jan 14

John Bull 40 says...

God of Shoplifting wrote:
Kim Gandy wrote:
Nowthatsworthknowing wrote:
They've had all their lives to sort out their savings, age can NEVER be an excuse for criminality.
Cobblers. Utter cobblers.

Many people struggle all their lives and are not fortunate to be in a position to save anything for their old age.

Lots of employers now exploit cheap foreign labour and do not have proper pension schemes in place. Yes you can take out private pensions but again, if your money is stretched to the limit, you end up paying for just the essentials of life.

Either you are on a nice fat screw in terms of wages or you are living on another planet.

Or worse still, perhaps you are on benefits and preaching to the rest of us.

The elderly are by far the worst off in this country. I've worked alongside and helped families who have had to sell the homes of their parents to pay for their care. I have seen the distress it has caused.

Most people who comment on this subject have no idea what they are talking about unless they have seen it close up.

And the usual mob - I suppose you will regurgitate the usual crap and try and portray me as something I'm not AGAIN.

I leave it to the decent people who comment on this website to form their own judgement on your comments,

Most of all, I care most about the opinions of people who actually KNOW me, not idiots who read a lot of rubbish online and swallow it as the truth. Such people are thick and beneath my intelligence.
The bottom line is im a shoplifter and that will never change.
Stupid comment of the week! I cant decide which one though.
[quote][p][bold]God of Shoplifting[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nowthatsworthknowing[/bold] wrote: They've had all their lives to sort out their savings, age can NEVER be an excuse for criminality.[/p][/quote]Cobblers. Utter cobblers. Many people struggle all their lives and are not fortunate to be in a position to save anything for their old age. Lots of employers now exploit cheap foreign labour and do not have proper pension schemes in place. Yes you can take out private pensions but again, if your money is stretched to the limit, you end up paying for just the essentials of life. Either you are on a nice fat screw in terms of wages or you are living on another planet. Or worse still, perhaps you are on benefits and preaching to the rest of us. The elderly are by far the worst off in this country. I've worked alongside and helped families who have had to sell the homes of their parents to pay for their care. I have seen the distress it has caused. Most people who comment on this subject have no idea what they are talking about unless they have seen it close up. And the usual mob - I suppose you will regurgitate the usual crap and try and portray me as something I'm not AGAIN. I leave it to the decent people who comment on this website to form their own judgement on your comments, Most of all, I care most about the opinions of people who actually KNOW me, not idiots who read a lot of rubbish online and swallow it as the truth. Such people are thick and beneath my intelligence.[/p][/quote]The bottom line is im a shoplifter and that will never change.[/p][/quote]Stupid comment of the week! I cant decide which one though. John Bull 40
  • Score: -2

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