Street light switch-off is delayed again

Southend Standard: Street light switch-off is delayed again Street light switch-off is delayed again

CONTROVERSIAL plans to switch off streetlights and plunge Castle Point into darkness have been postponed again.

The lights in streets across Benfleet, Hadleigh and Canvey were set to be turned off between midnight and 5am from today as part of Essex County Council’s part-night lighting scheme.

Now County Hall has put back the move to January 12 as engineers are still programming the streetlights with their new times.

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10:56am Wed 1 Jan 14

Yermotherwouldn'tlikeme says...

Sales of my torch are still spiralling.
Sales of my torch are still spiralling. Yermotherwouldn'tlikeme

11:02am Wed 1 Jan 14

Warriorisback says...

Being safe and protected from harm is one of your human rights. I could see a big case here if an attack is caused directly/violent crime goine up because of the lighting issues.
Being safe and protected from harm is one of your human rights. I could see a big case here if an attack is caused directly/violent crime goine up because of the lighting issues. Warriorisback

11:32am Wed 1 Jan 14

Yermotherwouldn'tlikeme says...

Warriorisback wrote:
Being safe and protected from harm is one of your human rights. I could see a big case here if an attack is caused directly/violent crime goine up because of the lighting issues.
Human rights surely include the right not to have those horrid orange tinted lights on all night.
[quote][p][bold]Warriorisback[/bold] wrote: Being safe and protected from harm is one of your human rights. I could see a big case here if an attack is caused directly/violent crime goine up because of the lighting issues.[/p][/quote]Human rights surely include the right not to have those horrid orange tinted lights on all night. Yermotherwouldn'tlikeme

11:48am Wed 1 Jan 14

sunnydd says...

How are the emergency services suppose to work when the lights are switched off. Finding house numbers with street lighting on is hard enough, crime will increase, risks increased to all night workers in community,dog walkers, those socialising & lets face it pavements generally poor condition & dangerous at night with street lighting on.
Can the local councils cope with litigation claims from injury.s etc & the nhs with not meeting government statistics for emergency care arrival targets times.
False economy yet again
How are the emergency services suppose to work when the lights are switched off. Finding house numbers with street lighting on is hard enough, crime will increase, risks increased to all night workers in community,dog walkers, those socialising & lets face it pavements generally poor condition & dangerous at night with street lighting on. Can the local councils cope with litigation claims from injury.s etc & the nhs with not meeting government statistics for emergency care arrival targets times. False economy yet again sunnydd

2:09pm Wed 1 Jan 14

Nowthatsworthknowing says...

sunnydd wrote:
How are the emergency services suppose to work when the lights are switched off. Finding house numbers with street lighting on is hard enough, crime will increase, risks increased to all night workers in community,dog walkers, those socialising & lets face it pavements generally poor condition & dangerous at night with street lighting on.
Can the local councils cope with litigation claims from injury.s etc & the nhs with not meeting government statistics for emergency care arrival targets times.
False economy yet again
I think its why they carry torches....DoH
[quote][p][bold]sunnydd[/bold] wrote: How are the emergency services suppose to work when the lights are switched off. Finding house numbers with street lighting on is hard enough, crime will increase, risks increased to all night workers in community,dog walkers, those socialising & lets face it pavements generally poor condition & dangerous at night with street lighting on. Can the local councils cope with litigation claims from injury.s etc & the nhs with not meeting government statistics for emergency care arrival targets times. False economy yet again[/p][/quote]I think its why they carry torches....DoH Nowthatsworthknowing

2:44pm Wed 1 Jan 14

andy:) says...

Yermotherwouldn'tlik
eme
wrote:
Warriorisback wrote:
Being safe and protected from harm is one of your human rights. I could see a big case here if an attack is caused directly/violent crime goine up because of the lighting issues.
Human rights surely include the right not to have those horrid orange tinted lights on all night.
Huh. I fail to see how they could in any way inconvience you ?
[quote][p][bold]Yermotherwouldn'tlik eme[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Warriorisback[/bold] wrote: Being safe and protected from harm is one of your human rights. I could see a big case here if an attack is caused directly/violent crime goine up because of the lighting issues.[/p][/quote]Human rights surely include the right not to have those horrid orange tinted lights on all night.[/p][/quote]Huh. I fail to see how they could in any way inconvience you ? andy:)

2:55pm Wed 1 Jan 14

Yermotherwouldn'tlikeme says...

andy:) wrote:
Yermotherwouldn'tlik

eme
wrote:
Warriorisback wrote:
Being safe and protected from harm is one of your human rights. I could see a big case here if an attack is caused directly/violent crime goine up because of the lighting issues.
Human rights surely include the right not to have those horrid orange tinted lights on all night.
Huh. I fail to see how they could in any way inconvience you ?
With a comment like that, I fail how anything your sewer mouth can offer much but sour words PMSL
[quote][p][bold]andy:)[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Yermotherwouldn'tlik eme[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Warriorisback[/bold] wrote: Being safe and protected from harm is one of your human rights. I could see a big case here if an attack is caused directly/violent crime goine up because of the lighting issues.[/p][/quote]Human rights surely include the right not to have those horrid orange tinted lights on all night.[/p][/quote]Huh. I fail to see how they could in any way inconvience you ?[/p][/quote]With a comment like that, I fail how anything your sewer mouth can offer much but sour words PMSL Yermotherwouldn'tlikeme

2:55pm Wed 1 Jan 14

_Lotus_ says...

I am glad it has been postponed and I hope it never, ever comes to fruition.

I work shifts, my late turns often finish after midnight and my early turns often start before 5am, turning off the street lights is one of the worse ideas I have ever had the misfortune to hear about.
I am glad it has been postponed and I hope it never, ever comes to fruition. I work shifts, my late turns often finish after midnight and my early turns often start before 5am, turning off the street lights is one of the worse ideas I have ever had the misfortune to hear about. _Lotus_

3:05pm Wed 1 Jan 14

Nowthatsworthknowing says...

_Lotus_ wrote:
I am glad it has been postponed and I hope it never, ever comes to fruition.

I work shifts, my late turns often finish after midnight and my early turns often start before 5am, turning off the street lights is one of the worse ideas I have ever had the misfortune to hear about.
Have you not lights on your zimmer frame???
[quote][p][bold]_Lotus_[/bold] wrote: I am glad it has been postponed and I hope it never, ever comes to fruition. I work shifts, my late turns often finish after midnight and my early turns often start before 5am, turning off the street lights is one of the worse ideas I have ever had the misfortune to hear about.[/p][/quote]Have you not lights on your zimmer frame??? Nowthatsworthknowing

3:23pm Wed 1 Jan 14

Yermotherwouldn'tlikeme says...

Nowthatsworthknowing wrote:
_Lotus_ wrote:
I am glad it has been postponed and I hope it never, ever comes to fruition.

I work shifts, my late turns often finish after midnight and my early turns often start before 5am, turning off the street lights is one of the worse ideas I have ever had the misfortune to hear about.
Have you not lights on your zimmer frame???
pmsl
[quote][p][bold]Nowthatsworthknowing[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]_Lotus_[/bold] wrote: I am glad it has been postponed and I hope it never, ever comes to fruition. I work shifts, my late turns often finish after midnight and my early turns often start before 5am, turning off the street lights is one of the worse ideas I have ever had the misfortune to hear about.[/p][/quote]Have you not lights on your zimmer frame???[/p][/quote]pmsl Yermotherwouldn'tlikeme

4:13pm Wed 1 Jan 14

profondo asbo says...

Yermotherwouldn'tlik
eme
wrote:
Nowthatsworthknowing wrote:
_Lotus_ wrote:
I am glad it has been postponed and I hope it never, ever comes to fruition.

I work shifts, my late turns often finish after midnight and my early turns often start before 5am, turning off the street lights is one of the worse ideas I have ever had the misfortune to hear about.
Have you not lights on your zimmer frame???
pmsl
the troll's troll... should we be thankful for your self rightousness?
[quote][p][bold]Yermotherwouldn'tlik eme[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nowthatsworthknowing[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]_Lotus_[/bold] wrote: I am glad it has been postponed and I hope it never, ever comes to fruition. I work shifts, my late turns often finish after midnight and my early turns often start before 5am, turning off the street lights is one of the worse ideas I have ever had the misfortune to hear about.[/p][/quote]Have you not lights on your zimmer frame???[/p][/quote]pmsl[/p][/quote]the troll's troll... should we be thankful for your self rightousness? profondo asbo

5:09pm Wed 1 Jan 14

DogsMessInLeigh says...

i repeat myself again....drive along london Road hadleigh leigh westcliff...so many on 24 hours a day, no one from SBC ever drives through in day light hours otherwise i am sure they would report them to the right dept.
i repeat myself again....drive along london Road hadleigh leigh westcliff...so many on 24 hours a day, no one from SBC ever drives through in day light hours otherwise i am sure they would report them to the right dept. DogsMessInLeigh

6:25pm Wed 1 Jan 14

Kim Gandy says...

Nowthatsworthknowing wrote:
_Lotus_ wrote:
I am glad it has been postponed and I hope it never, ever comes to fruition.

I work shifts, my late turns often finish after midnight and my early turns often start before 5am, turning off the street lights is one of the worse ideas I have ever had the misfortune to hear about.
Have you not lights on your zimmer frame???
what an odd thing to say, especially as this person is talking about working shifts. Rather looks like they don't actually need a zimmer frame??

The reasoning of people on this website amazes me.

What qualifies for a zimmer frame these days? Being over 30? Over 40?

Age comes to most of us but it's merely a state of mind. I'm definitely over the hill as far as the sort of morons who love to pick on people because of their age are concerned.

In reality, most of us over 40s are as fit as a fiddle and certainly far from needing a zimmer frame or any other kind of aide.

Speaking for myself, as one of these maligned over 40s groups, I have a younger boyfriend and plenty of fantastic friends of all ages and enjoy a full and active life.

Strangely enough, despite the catty remarks on here and elsewhere on line, I can still manage to get chatted up too - often by younger men.

And all the comments that have been put up about things I have SUPPOSEDLY said, relating to ageism.

However, when you look at the profiles of some of the worst critics of others, online, they often turn out to be sour faced hysterical harridans and sad twisted men with trouser trauma syndrome.

Now, what was the subject, that's right. Lights being switched off.

I thought it was a crap idea originally and still stick to that thought. And Lotus has made a very good point. Shift workers will be severely affected by this. And given that they are shift workers that probably indicates low pay - not the sort of money you can be forking out for cabs.

It's also a burglars' and muggers paradise... doing their foul deeds under cover of darkness - and also anybody who has a security camera might as well not bother because any mind of criminal activity like that will not be picked up in the darkness.

Also there is no sign of a reduction in my council tax to accommodate this switch off and as I did not advocate forking out £7.7 million of my money being spent on this barmpot scheme, I do not see why I should have to fork out for it. I see it in fact, as being in receipt of even fewer services so council tax should be reduced.

Usual thumbs downers, usual rules apply... your catty remarks will go unread by me but will demonstrate beautifully to everyone else, your own prejudices - and hypocrisy.

Happy New Year to everybody else!
[quote][p][bold]Nowthatsworthknowing[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]_Lotus_[/bold] wrote: I am glad it has been postponed and I hope it never, ever comes to fruition. I work shifts, my late turns often finish after midnight and my early turns often start before 5am, turning off the street lights is one of the worse ideas I have ever had the misfortune to hear about.[/p][/quote]Have you not lights on your zimmer frame???[/p][/quote]what an odd thing to say, especially as this person is talking about working shifts. Rather looks like they don't actually need a zimmer frame?? The reasoning of people on this website amazes me. What qualifies for a zimmer frame these days? Being over 30? Over 40? Age comes to most of us but it's merely a state of mind. I'm definitely over the hill as far as the sort of morons who love to pick on people because of their age are concerned. In reality, most of us over 40s are as fit as a fiddle and certainly far from needing a zimmer frame or any other kind of aide. Speaking for myself, as one of these maligned over 40s groups, I have a younger boyfriend and plenty of fantastic friends of all ages and enjoy a full and active life. Strangely enough, despite the catty remarks on here and elsewhere on line, I can still manage to get chatted up too - often by younger men. And all the comments that have been put up about things I have SUPPOSEDLY said, relating to ageism. However, when you look at the profiles of some of the worst critics of others, online, they often turn out to be sour faced hysterical harridans and sad twisted men with trouser trauma syndrome. Now, what was the subject, that's right. Lights being switched off. I thought it was a crap idea originally and still stick to that thought. And Lotus has made a very good point. Shift workers will be severely affected by this. And given that they are shift workers that probably indicates low pay - not the sort of money you can be forking out for cabs. It's also a burglars' and muggers paradise... doing their foul deeds under cover of darkness - and also anybody who has a security camera might as well not bother because any mind of criminal activity like that will not be picked up in the darkness. Also there is no sign of a reduction in my council tax to accommodate this switch off and as I did not advocate forking out £7.7 million of my money being spent on this barmpot scheme, I do not see why I should have to fork out for it. I see it in fact, as being in receipt of even fewer services so council tax should be reduced. Usual thumbs downers, usual rules apply... your catty remarks will go unread by me but will demonstrate beautifully to everyone else, your own prejudices - and hypocrisy. Happy New Year to everybody else! Kim Gandy

10:16pm Wed 1 Jan 14

woolstone says...

Stupid idea to turn lights out during the winter months at night. As we are experiencing stormy weather with heavy rain and strong winds the lights will be needed more than usual. Councils have no commonsense its all about the money and safety does not come into it. I hope nowhere in Essex has the street lights turned out at the moment due to the weather, its not rocket science after all.
Stupid idea to turn lights out during the winter months at night. As we are experiencing stormy weather with heavy rain and strong winds the lights will be needed more than usual. Councils have no commonsense its all about the money and safety does not come into it. I hope nowhere in Essex has the street lights turned out at the moment due to the weather, its not rocket science after all. woolstone

1:08am Thu 2 Jan 14

britis04 says...

So gail force winds, poor visibility, cars driving off the road with the lights on and yet they still want to turn them off - DUMB.

Turn them off over summer but doing so in these conditions shows a total disregard to the life of the people of Essex.

What's it going to take - someone to die before they turn them back on?
So gail force winds, poor visibility, cars driving off the road with the lights on and yet they still want to turn them off - DUMB. Turn them off over summer but doing so in these conditions shows a total disregard to the life of the people of Essex. What's it going to take - someone to die before they turn them back on? britis04

9:36am Fri 3 Jan 14

fruitcakegsi says...

britis04 wrote:
So gail force winds, poor visibility, cars driving off the road with the lights on and yet they still want to turn them off - DUMB.

Turn them off over summer but doing so in these conditions shows a total disregard to the life of the people of Essex.

What's it going to take - someone to die before they turn them back on?
There's no evidence that turning out street lights makes it more unsafe. Vast areas of UK roads have no street lights, especially in remote regions, and the ratio of crashes isn't any higher in these areas - in fact it's quite the reverse.
Quite simply people crash cars because they are not driving to the condition of the roads, not paying attention, or not leaving enough stopping distance. Bad driving causes accidents not bad weather.
[quote][p][bold]britis04[/bold] wrote: So gail force winds, poor visibility, cars driving off the road with the lights on and yet they still want to turn them off - DUMB. Turn them off over summer but doing so in these conditions shows a total disregard to the life of the people of Essex. What's it going to take - someone to die before they turn them back on?[/p][/quote]There's no evidence that turning out street lights makes it more unsafe. Vast areas of UK roads have no street lights, especially in remote regions, and the ratio of crashes isn't any higher in these areas - in fact it's quite the reverse. Quite simply people crash cars because they are not driving to the condition of the roads, not paying attention, or not leaving enough stopping distance. Bad driving causes accidents not bad weather. fruitcakegsi

12:17am Tue 14 Jan 14

Chris Flunk says...

Well, they went out 15 minutes ago and it's not appreciably darker and I've not yet been burglarised. Can we switch some more lights off please.
Well, they went out 15 minutes ago and it's not appreciably darker and I've not yet been burglarised. Can we switch some more lights off please. Chris Flunk

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