People should pay more council tax says outgoing chief executive of Rochford Council

Southend Standard: People should pay more council tax says outgoing chief executive People should pay more council tax says outgoing chief executive

ROCHFORD Council’s retiring chief executive has said he thinks residents should be prepared to pay more in council tax.

Paul Warren will stand down later this month, handing the reins to successor Amar Dave, after 15 years as the council’s most senior official.

In an interview with an online magazine he spoke of the need to increase council tax to keep pace with councils’ costs – though he conceded this was not a popular viewwith some of his councillors..

He said the £205 a month the average household in Rochford paid in council tax was a relatively small amount.

He added: “If we freeze it for a year and we don’t get money in from another source to compensate, even for an increase in the cost of living, that means that next year, you are starting from a smaller base, so any decision you make in one year will not just impact on that year, but on subsequent years. So, my advice to members is, if possible, you should always try to increase council tax, year on year, because if you stand still, you are not just losing that year’s increase but subsequent y e a r s ’ increases as well.”

His words come as the council considers its budgets for next year and the possibility of freezing tax for the next two years.

Another option would be to put up council tax by just under two per cent – any more and the council would need to consult residents via a referendum.

However, Hawkwell Residents’ Association councillor John Mason, who represents Hawkwell West, criticised the timing of Mr Warren’s words.

He said: “It was a little surprising coming from the chief executive, even if it’s in his retirement.

“It’s a sensitive time when the council tax is being discussed. The timing is inappropriate.

“I’m not sure he should be doing that in that way.”

Rayleigh resident Rachael Darby, 33, of Cheapside West, also criticised Mr Warren’s suggestion She said: “Of course we don’t want council tax going up.

“There are not enough police in the area, and with all that’s going on with the developments, all the council seems to be concerned about is money and not the people who live here. We can barely survive as we are.

“The council should start looking after us. It’s ludicrous to think it would put it up.”

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1:09pm Fri 20 Dec 13

Kim Gandy says...

With fewer police and fewer bin collections, potholes and roadworks all over the place, flooded roads and now, the lights are going off overnight.

He can suck my nose for an acid drop.
With fewer police and fewer bin collections, potholes and roadworks all over the place, flooded roads and now, the lights are going off overnight. He can suck my nose for an acid drop. Kim Gandy

1:20pm Fri 20 Dec 13

gbrepublicans says...

Yes let's pay more tax, the Crown needs the money.
Yes let's pay more tax, the Crown needs the money. gbrepublicans

2:15pm Fri 20 Dec 13

CHRISTMAS CAROL says...

Good job the old buzzard is retiring
Good job the old buzzard is retiring CHRISTMAS CAROL

2:18pm Fri 20 Dec 13

rayleigh123 says...

I pay income tax, national insurance, council tax , V.A.T. , petrol tax plus a load of stealth taxes. I pay enviromental tax if i leave the UK by air.

I then pay car tax, TV license fee plus more.

If i want anything there are fees and additional charges / fees on eveything.
(try ordering two tickets on a theatre and see the extra cost).

And this idiots suggests we pay MORE !!!!! what happens when this lot above equates to over 100% of my salary, AMAZING.



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I pay income tax, national insurance, council tax , V.A.T. , petrol tax plus a load of stealth taxes. I pay enviromental tax if i leave the UK by air. I then pay car tax, TV license fee plus more. If i want anything there are fees and additional charges / fees on eveything. (try ordering two tickets on a theatre and see the extra cost). And this idiots suggests we pay MORE !!!!! what happens when this lot above equates to over 100% of my salary, AMAZING. . rayleigh123

2:24pm Fri 20 Dec 13

rayleigh123 says...

Quotation - He said the £205 a month the average household in Rochford paid in council tax was a relatively small amount.

£205 x 12 = £2460.00 per year

I am glad to see he thinks this is a relatively small amount. !!!!!!!
Quotation - He said the £205 a month the average household in Rochford paid in council tax was a relatively small amount. £205 x 12 = £2460.00 per year I am glad to see he thinks this is a relatively small amount. !!!!!!! rayleigh123

2:47pm Fri 20 Dec 13

max zorin says...

err no, why should we all pay more council tax and get less in return?! i get they want more money to spend on themselves :/
err no, why should we all pay more council tax and get less in return?! i get they want more money to spend on themselves :/ max zorin

2:50pm Fri 20 Dec 13

Nowthatsworthknowing says...

I would suggest a good all round figure of £300, as cost have spiralled up and up, at the moment resources are stretched to the limit, high time a realistic increase was introduced.
I would suggest a good all round figure of £300, as cost have spiralled up and up, at the moment resources are stretched to the limit, high time a realistic increase was introduced. Nowthatsworthknowing

3:08pm Fri 20 Dec 13

Nowthatsworthknowing says...

rayleigh123 wrote:
I pay income tax, national insurance, council tax , V.A.T. , petrol tax plus a load of stealth taxes. I pay enviromental tax if i leave the UK by air.

I then pay car tax, TV license fee plus more.

If i want anything there are fees and additional charges / fees on eveything.
(try ordering two tickets on a theatre and see the extra cost).

And this idiots suggests we pay MORE !!!!! what happens when this lot above equates to over 100% of my salary, AMAZING.



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And your point is Sir ? you get all the council services for a pittance ? which is why you will pay a fair amount more, cheers, Happy Christmas.
[quote][p][bold]rayleigh123[/bold] wrote: I pay income tax, national insurance, council tax , V.A.T. , petrol tax plus a load of stealth taxes. I pay enviromental tax if i leave the UK by air. I then pay car tax, TV license fee plus more. If i want anything there are fees and additional charges / fees on eveything. (try ordering two tickets on a theatre and see the extra cost). And this idiots suggests we pay MORE !!!!! what happens when this lot above equates to over 100% of my salary, AMAZING. .[/p][/quote]And your point is Sir ? you get all the council services for a pittance ? which is why you will pay a fair amount more, cheers, Happy Christmas. Nowthatsworthknowing

3:32pm Fri 20 Dec 13

billericay boy says...

Who's Amar Dave, must be a typing error, Dave from rochford.
Who's Amar Dave, must be a typing error, Dave from rochford. billericay boy

3:58pm Fri 20 Dec 13

volunteer driver says...

If he thinks people should pay more then the answer would be to deduct it from his over generous pension
If he thinks people should pay more then the answer would be to deduct it from his over generous pension volunteer driver

4:11pm Fri 20 Dec 13

Nowthatsworthknowing says...

volunteer driver wrote:
If he thinks people should pay more then the answer would be to deduct it from his over generous pension
Naw take it from the lazy benefit takers, it's those parasites who draining the life blood from our neighbourhoods
[quote][p][bold]volunteer driver[/bold] wrote: If he thinks people should pay more then the answer would be to deduct it from his over generous pension[/p][/quote]Naw take it from the lazy benefit takers, it's those parasites who draining the life blood from our neighbourhoods Nowthatsworthknowing

5:55pm Fri 20 Dec 13

jolllyboy says...

pay more... for less. Come on you may be able to afford it chum but you are already getting more from the unfortunates who used to pay nothing because they couldnt afford it. You pay more - I expect you are on a higher band than most that's the end to put it on.
pay more... for less. Come on you may be able to afford it chum but you are already getting more from the unfortunates who used to pay nothing because they couldnt afford it. You pay more - I expect you are on a higher band than most that's the end to put it on. jolllyboy

8:30pm Fri 20 Dec 13

max zorin says...

Nowthatsworthknowing wrote:
volunteer driver wrote:
If he thinks people should pay more then the answer would be to deduct it from his over generous pension
Naw take it from the lazy benefit takers, it's those parasites who draining the life blood from our neighbourhoods
how ignorant, not everyone who claims benefits is a scrounger. its MP's who are draining us dry with their expenses perks etc.
[quote][p][bold]Nowthatsworthknowing[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]volunteer driver[/bold] wrote: If he thinks people should pay more then the answer would be to deduct it from his over generous pension[/p][/quote]Naw take it from the lazy benefit takers, it's those parasites who draining the life blood from our neighbourhoods[/p][/quote]how ignorant, not everyone who claims benefits is a scrounger. its MP's who are draining us dry with their expenses perks etc. max zorin

9:21pm Fri 20 Dec 13

Nebs says...

I wouldn't mind paying a bit more if all the extra went to the Police.
I wouldn't mind paying a bit more if all the extra went to the Police. Nebs

12:11am Sat 21 Dec 13

bazza 1 says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
With fewer police and fewer bin collections, potholes and roadworks all over the place, flooded roads and now, the lights are going off overnight.

He can suck my nose for an acid drop.
Love that. Made me smile.
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: With fewer police and fewer bin collections, potholes and roadworks all over the place, flooded roads and now, the lights are going off overnight. He can suck my nose for an acid drop.[/p][/quote]Love that. Made me smile. bazza 1

12:15am Sat 21 Dec 13

bazza 1 says...

rayleigh123 wrote:
Quotation - He said the £205 a month the average household in Rochford paid in council tax was a relatively small amount.

£205 x 12 = £2460.00 per year

I am glad to see he thinks this is a relatively small amount. !!!!!!!
To him it is a relatively small amount. His salary as a Chief Executive would probably be over £150,000, unlike the people who pay his wages, the tax payer, who probably averages below £25,000.
[quote][p][bold]rayleigh123[/bold] wrote: Quotation - He said the £205 a month the average household in Rochford paid in council tax was a relatively small amount. £205 x 12 = £2460.00 per year I am glad to see he thinks this is a relatively small amount. !!!!!!![/p][/quote]To him it is a relatively small amount. His salary as a Chief Executive would probably be over £150,000, unlike the people who pay his wages, the tax payer, who probably averages below £25,000. bazza 1

12:41am Sat 21 Dec 13

ddf35 says...

i dont want my council tax to go up either, but a lot of complaints mentioned above (potholes etc) are ECC things - and they get over 70% of the money paid - they're the ones failing the most in my opinion!

Wage details are available here:

http://www.rochford.
gov.uk/council_and_d
emocracy/senior_mana
gement_team/remunera
tion_of_smt

not exactly a small wage - but less than percieved.
i dont want my council tax to go up either, but a lot of complaints mentioned above (potholes etc) are ECC things - and they get over 70% of the money paid - they're the ones failing the most in my opinion! Wage details are available here: http://www.rochford. gov.uk/council_and_d emocracy/senior_mana gement_team/remunera tion_of_smt not exactly a small wage - but less than percieved. ddf35

8:21am Sat 21 Dec 13

BrianOtridge says...

All the Councillor is interested in is his own slice of the total government budget, and has no concern for the people who pay the tax. For some, £205 a month is a vast amount of money, especially if your income is just above the level at which council tax benefits are paid.

As another commentor has observed, there are countless ways in which we are taxed. Each one of them requires administration, people employed merely collecting tax, not delivering the services those taxes are for. We have HMRC (PAYE, Corporation Tax, VAT and Duty sections) then companies collect VAT, Councils collect Council Tax, DVLA collect car taxes, airlines collect Air Duty, plus many other tax collecting bodies.

And they think they fool us! Over 50% of British GDP is soaked up by government, a massive overhead, albeit many of the services that are delivered are essential, but perhaps not run in the most efficient way.

What is needed is a massive simplification of the tax system and government to shed the non-essential things it does, like many of the quangos.
All the Councillor is interested in is his own slice of the total government budget, and has no concern for the people who pay the tax. For some, £205 a month is a vast amount of money, especially if your income is just above the level at which council tax benefits are paid. As another commentor has observed, there are countless ways in which we are taxed. Each one of them requires administration, people employed merely collecting tax, not delivering the services those taxes are for. We have HMRC (PAYE, Corporation Tax, VAT and Duty sections) then companies collect VAT, Councils collect Council Tax, DVLA collect car taxes, airlines collect Air Duty, plus many other tax collecting bodies. And they think they fool us! Over 50% of British GDP is soaked up by government, a massive overhead, albeit many of the services that are delivered are essential, but perhaps not run in the most efficient way. What is needed is a massive simplification of the tax system and government to shed the non-essential things it does, like many of the quangos. BrianOtridge

8:23am Sat 21 Dec 13

BrianOtridge says...

Correction - I meant ex-Chief Executive not Councillor.
Correction - I meant ex-Chief Executive not Councillor. BrianOtridge

8:38am Sat 21 Dec 13

Keptquiettillnow says...

If you own a property, you are going to pay. We had the chance to make everyone contribute. poll tax.
House value is the only real money many people have, it doesnt take much to work out where the money is going to come from.
If you own a property, you are going to pay. We had the chance to make everyone contribute. poll tax. House value is the only real money many people have, it doesnt take much to work out where the money is going to come from. Keptquiettillnow

2:46pm Tue 24 Dec 13

Ed Woods says...

What an arrogant to55er. Good riddance you waste of space.
What an arrogant to55er. Good riddance you waste of space. Ed Woods

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