These huge badgers are ruining my garden...and life

Southend Standard: These huge badgers are ruining my garden...and life These huge badgers are ruining my garden...and life

A FED-UP mum claims her life and garden is being wrecked by unruly badgers.

Claire Mackay, 38, of Richmond Drive, Westcliff, has had enough of the pesky creatures living underneath her garden.

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She claims about 15 of them are living below ground and this week smashed up her decking.

She wants to remove them from her 75-ft garden, but has been told she cannot act until next June because of the badger breeding season.

Mrs Mackay said: “It’s ruining my garden and my life.

“They’re as big as Shetland ponies, they’re huge.

“They have dug around all the supports. They finally broke the decking on Monday night and have dug up my lawn.”

Badgers dug up the lawn four years ago, but Mrs Mackay did nothing about it. Now she believes it is those animals’ offspring that have returned to cause mayhem.

Mrs Mackay says the badgers actions have made it too dangerous for her young children Lana, five, and Ruby, six, to go into the garden.

She also fears for her pets – two cats and two Dachsund dogs – even though the dogs are bred to kill badgers.

She added: “Though my dogs are bred for hunting, if they got in there these badgers would tear them apart.”

Mrs Mackay has applied for a licence to dig two-metre deep trenches in her garden and remove the badgers.

The trenches would be fitted with one-way doors, like cat flaps, that would allow the badgers to leave Mrs Mackay’s garden, but they would not be able to return.

However, Natural England – responsible for protecting and improving the country’s natural environment, have advised her it will cost thousands of pounds to create the trenches and warned her not to do anything until June. Graham Tibbetts, Natural England spokesman, said: “As a protected species, it is our job to protect them, we cannot disturb them during mating season.”

Female badgers start to give birth to cubs from January, and by the end of March most births have taken place. However, mid February is also a peak mating time, as females come into season soon after the birth of their young.

Badgers are known for their jaw strength and a cull of the animals was introduced in October to stop the spread of bovine tuberculosis, mainly in West Gloucestershire and Somerset.

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7:17am Fri 13 Dec 13

DogsMessInLeigh says...

"They’re as big as Shetland ponies, they’re huge".


Really..?

theres just too many holes in this story.
"They’re as big as Shetland ponies, they’re huge". Really..? theres just too many holes in this story. DogsMessInLeigh

7:40am Fri 13 Dec 13

CHRISTMAS CAROL says...

The badgers were there first. I would love to have them in my garden
The badgers were there first. I would love to have them in my garden CHRISTMAS CAROL

8:01am Fri 13 Dec 13

Leighdweller says...

CHRISTMAS CAROL wrote:
The badgers were there first. I would love to have them in my garden
Careful of what you wish for! I have them in mine and whilst they have done nowhere near the damage pictured above, they are very destructive. In particular, my fences are riddled with holes where they've smashed through.
[quote][p][bold]CHRISTMAS CAROL[/bold] wrote: The badgers were there first. I would love to have them in my garden[/p][/quote]Careful of what you wish for! I have them in mine and whilst they have done nowhere near the damage pictured above, they are very destructive. In particular, my fences are riddled with holes where they've smashed through. Leighdweller

8:07am Fri 13 Dec 13

Rhoda Dendron says...

I have badgers in my garden every night. I have a lovely lawn and borders, which the badgers have never touched. I live close to a common and so there are setts and runs all over the place. We buy cheap dry sacks of dog food and throw a few handfuls onto the patio every night, they eat - they leave, simple as that. I entirely agree with Christmas Carol. Live with them or move. Your 'badger killing dogs' wouldn't stand a chance luv!
I have badgers in my garden every night. I have a lovely lawn and borders, which the badgers have never touched. I live close to a common and so there are setts and runs all over the place. We buy cheap dry sacks of dog food and throw a few handfuls onto the patio every night, they eat - they leave, simple as that. I entirely agree with Christmas Carol. Live with them or move. Your 'badger killing dogs' wouldn't stand a chance luv! Rhoda Dendron

8:17am Fri 13 Dec 13

leighman says...

Love this 'protected species' bit.
Graham Tibbetts, Natural England spokesman, said: “As a protected species, it is our job to protect them, we cannot disturb them during mating season.”
Except, of course when they happen to be in the vicinity of a dairy farm, then you can shoot them apparently, It saves the farmer the cost of vaccinating his herd..Ask DEFRA!
Love this 'protected species' bit. Graham Tibbetts, Natural England spokesman, said: “As a protected species, it is our job to protect them, we cannot disturb them during mating season.” Except, of course when they happen to be in the vicinity of a dairy farm, then you can shoot them apparently, It saves the farmer the cost of vaccinating his herd..Ask DEFRA! leighman

8:40am Fri 13 Dec 13

Jack222 says...

If that is all she has to worry about then lucky her.
If that is all she has to worry about then lucky her. Jack222

9:11am Fri 13 Dec 13

ramasesuk says...

Is this woman for real? Does she think these huge badgers the size of shetland ponies are man eaters? Lol. Cant really see why she thinks its unsafe for her kids to go out! The badgers were there before the houses were built no doubt. Leave them be and enjoy them
Is this woman for real? Does she think these huge badgers the size of shetland ponies are man eaters? Lol. Cant really see why she thinks its unsafe for her kids to go out! The badgers were there before the houses were built no doubt. Leave them be and enjoy them ramasesuk

9:21am Fri 13 Dec 13

DogsMessInLeigh says...

Looks like she has way too much crammed in the garden too, the badgers must feel like its over development and its their way of protesting like humans would.
Looks like she has way too much crammed in the garden too, the badgers must feel like its over development and its their way of protesting like humans would. DogsMessInLeigh

9:34am Fri 13 Dec 13

Walt Jabsco says...

Another prime example of a human being who thinks they come first before every other living thing on the planet..

The Echo must lap up stories like this when an 'angry' person whos life is being ruined so terribly by a badger phones up to give a 'story' about how bad their life is......they know it provokes a reaction against that person on here.
Another prime example of a human being who thinks they come first before every other living thing on the planet.. The Echo must lap up stories like this when an 'angry' person whos life is being ruined so terribly by a badger phones up to give a 'story' about how bad their life is......they know it provokes a reaction against that person on here. Walt Jabsco

9:41am Fri 13 Dec 13

Beechtrees says...

Apart from total rubbish about the size of these poor badgers, if she was to dig trenches and the badgers want to come back, they'll just make holes in the fences and walk back in. More misinformed propaganda, and as others have said the badgers were there first, she must have know that when she moved in, so get over it or move. Doesn't realise how lucky she is.
Apart from total rubbish about the size of these poor badgers, if she was to dig trenches and the badgers want to come back, they'll just make holes in the fences and walk back in. More misinformed propaganda, and as others have said the badgers were there first, she must have know that when she moved in, so get over it or move. Doesn't realise how lucky she is. Beechtrees

9:41am Fri 13 Dec 13

DogsMessInLeigh says...

Walt Jabsco wrote:
Another prime example of a human being who thinks they come first before every other living thing on the planet..

The Echo must lap up stories like this when an 'angry' person whos life is being ruined so terribly by a badger phones up to give a 'story' about how bad their life is......they know it provokes a reaction against that person on here.
...But But they are the size of shetland ponys, bet she badgered the Echo to do a story.
[quote][p][bold]Walt Jabsco[/bold] wrote: Another prime example of a human being who thinks they come first before every other living thing on the planet.. The Echo must lap up stories like this when an 'angry' person whos life is being ruined so terribly by a badger phones up to give a 'story' about how bad their life is......they know it provokes a reaction against that person on here.[/p][/quote]...But But they are the size of shetland ponys, bet she badgered the Echo to do a story. DogsMessInLeigh

10:22am Fri 13 Dec 13

Test Tickle says...

She is worried about her children being harmed by Badgers but she does not seem to be concerned about the two yappy sh*t machines running around the garden laying dogs eggs everywhere does she!

She should look up the disease toxocariasis.
She is worried about her children being harmed by Badgers but she does not seem to be concerned about the two yappy sh*t machines running around the garden laying dogs eggs everywhere does she! She should look up the disease toxocariasis. Test Tickle

10:27am Fri 13 Dec 13

ozbizbozzle says...

What kind of person would train a Dachsund to kill badgers?
What kind of person would train a Dachsund to kill badgers? ozbizbozzle

10:28am Fri 13 Dec 13

DogsMessInLeigh says...

should have treated all that wood well before winter set in, looks like its not been done for a few years.
should have treated all that wood well before winter set in, looks like its not been done for a few years. DogsMessInLeigh

10:29am Fri 13 Dec 13

Antara76 says...

First she should have contacted the National Geographic not the Echo, as she must have the last colony of a up to now unknown species of badger.. The giant badger. Second her "garden" looks more like a carpenter back yard with every inch covered in deking, and even so I can not see this huge hole she is talking about.. I mean they must be huge to get a Shetland pony size badger to get through it...
If I was in her I would ask the government to do a ground survey and see if the badger actually undermined the foundation of her house, as I can image having galleries under my house capable to fit 15 Shetland ponies will cause serious weakening of the supporting structure..
I doubt rises in me.. does she know how big is a Shetland pony? But is just a doubt..
Anyway she is right, if the giant badger are not stopped they will not only destroy her garden, but with years they may make so many galleries that the whole of England will cave right in the jaws of this evil fury giants!! As we all know that deep down what the badgers really want is the domination of the world!!!
First she should have contacted the National Geographic not the Echo, as she must have the last colony of a up to now unknown species of badger.. The giant badger. Second her "garden" looks more like a carpenter back yard with every inch covered in deking, and even so I can not see this huge hole she is talking about.. I mean they must be huge to get a Shetland pony size badger to get through it... If I was in her I would ask the government to do a ground survey and see if the badger actually undermined the foundation of her house, as I can image having galleries under my house capable to fit 15 Shetland ponies will cause serious weakening of the supporting structure.. I doubt rises in me.. does she know how big is a Shetland pony? But is just a doubt.. Anyway she is right, if the giant badger are not stopped they will not only destroy her garden, but with years they may make so many galleries that the whole of England will cave right in the jaws of this evil fury giants!! As we all know that deep down what the badgers really want is the domination of the world!!! Antara76

10:34am Fri 13 Dec 13

scrounger‎ says...

I have to agree with the badgers dislike of decking.
I have to agree with the badgers dislike of decking. scrounger‎

10:43am Fri 13 Dec 13

LeighCommuter says...

I think she wants the badgers to be given an ASBO!
I think she wants the badgers to be given an ASBO! LeighCommuter

11:05am Fri 13 Dec 13

DogsMessInLeigh says...

a thought has just occured to me...maybe they are actual Shetland ponys and not Badgers.
a thought has just occured to me...maybe they are actual Shetland ponys and not Badgers. DogsMessInLeigh

11:08am Fri 13 Dec 13

Kim Gandy says...

ozbizbozzle wrote:
What kind of person would train a Dachsund to kill badgers?
That was what they were originally, that's why they're long and thin, so they can go down holes.

She didn't train them, it's bred into the breed, they were bred to do that.
[quote][p][bold]ozbizbozzle[/bold] wrote: What kind of person would train a Dachsund to kill badgers?[/p][/quote]That was what they were originally, that's why they're long and thin, so they can go down holes. She didn't train them, it's bred into the breed, they were bred to do that. Kim Gandy

11:08am Fri 13 Dec 13

Kim Gandy says...

ozbizbozzle wrote:
What kind of person would train a Dachsund to kill badgers?
That was what they were originally, that's why they're long and thin, so they can go down holes.

She didn't train them, it's bred into the breed, they were bred to do that.
[quote][p][bold]ozbizbozzle[/bold] wrote: What kind of person would train a Dachsund to kill badgers?[/p][/quote]That was what they were originally, that's why they're long and thin, so they can go down holes. She didn't train them, it's bred into the breed, they were bred to do that. Kim Gandy

11:11am Fri 13 Dec 13

Kim Gandy says...

I love wild animals but if I'd paid a fortune for decking I wouldn't like to see it ruined.

It's all too easy to be judgemental isn't it until it happens to you.

However, I don't believe a) they are as big as Shetland ponies and b) they are any danger to children as they are very timid.

Dogs are more likely to be dangerous to children.

And in any case, I thought there was a badger cull going on... a few months ago that was all over the media.
I love wild animals but if I'd paid a fortune for decking I wouldn't like to see it ruined. It's all too easy to be judgemental isn't it until it happens to you. However, I don't believe a) they are as big as Shetland ponies and b) they are any danger to children as they are very timid. Dogs are more likely to be dangerous to children. And in any case, I thought there was a badger cull going on... a few months ago that was all over the media. Kim Gandy

11:32am Fri 13 Dec 13

Fred the Phoenix says...

You should be grateful. If you don't like them MOVE and let someone who will appreciate these lovely creatures buy your house
You should be grateful. If you don't like them MOVE and let someone who will appreciate these lovely creatures buy your house Fred the Phoenix

11:45am Fri 13 Dec 13

Southend Andy says...

Just when you thought it was safe to go into the garden (insert jaws music here) Badger Returns!
Just when you thought it was safe to go into the garden (insert jaws music here) Badger Returns! Southend Andy

11:54am Fri 13 Dec 13

AuldGit says...

Harry Hill would love it .. It's the Badger Parade!
Harry Hill would love it .. It's the Badger Parade! AuldGit

11:59am Fri 13 Dec 13

intwo says...

It is easy to make comments when you do not have badgers in your garden.
My mother had badgers and every now and then they would tidy up their set and with the old hay would come numerous cat collars which bore an uncanny resemblance to the signs on the local lampposts.
I will never forget as a child playing in the garden and hearing Les who lived two door along screaming as the ground gave way into a badger run when he was putting his washing out. By the time the ambulance and police arrive he was dead and the council first gassed the badgers and when that did not work they arranged for an organisation to move the badgers.
As they not small animals, they are strong, and they do eat meat.
It is easy to make comments when you do not have badgers in your garden. My mother had badgers and every now and then they would tidy up their set and with the old hay would come numerous cat collars which bore an uncanny resemblance to the signs on the local lampposts. I will never forget as a child playing in the garden and hearing Les who lived two door along screaming as the ground gave way into a badger run when he was putting his washing out. By the time the ambulance and police arrive he was dead and the council first gassed the badgers and when that did not work they arranged for an organisation to move the badgers. As they not small animals, they are strong, and they do eat meat. intwo

12:02pm Fri 13 Dec 13

Antara76 says...

I have foxes and moles "damaging" my garden, fox cubs like to play with my flower pots and crashed few of them..yes it can be annoying but I am sure that we annoyed them quite allot when we took over all the green lands, forests and groves; when we built all our roads. We are probably annoying them as we pollute the air they brief and the soil and plant s on which they live and feed. We must have scared the hell out of them with wars and bombing, with fracking and drilling. We must have annoyed them a great deal when we started persecuting them so that we can stick their head on a board of wood over our mantle piece and their fur around our neck to satisfy our screwed up hobbies; and yet I do not see them coming with gun at us, or trying to kick us pout of our houses. I think compare to what we did and do to them we really have no ground to complain.
I have foxes and moles "damaging" my garden, fox cubs like to play with my flower pots and crashed few of them..yes it can be annoying but I am sure that we annoyed them quite allot when we took over all the green lands, forests and groves; when we built all our roads. We are probably annoying them as we pollute the air they brief and the soil and plant s on which they live and feed. We must have scared the hell out of them with wars and bombing, with fracking and drilling. We must have annoyed them a great deal when we started persecuting them so that we can stick their head on a board of wood over our mantle piece and their fur around our neck to satisfy our screwed up hobbies; and yet I do not see them coming with gun at us, or trying to kick us pout of our houses. I think compare to what we did and do to them we really have no ground to complain. Antara76

12:04pm Fri 13 Dec 13

saarfender says...

I grew up with badgers in my garden. I loved watching them. One of my earliest childhood memories is standing quietly with my mum and having badger cubs not only running around us but rolling over my fluffy grey slippers. I think I was infant school age, or possibly first year juniors.

Yes they can be destructive, but they always use the same route so leave a hole in the fence to save them keep breaking through. Yes they can dig up the lawn for worms, but if you throw your meal leftovers out they'll eat those instead. They can rip up dry grass for bedding, unless you leave straw out and they'll take that instead.

Now I have moved I am not near a badger sett. I miss them.

Badgers were here first, are beautiful creatures, and should stay. That is why they are protected. As for the defra thing over the cull, there is more evidence for TB going from cattle to badgers than the other way, plus there is much cattle movement by truck now (especially after foot & mouth re-stocking) and there are allegations that that is why TB is on the rise - not badgers.
I grew up with badgers in my garden. I loved watching them. One of my earliest childhood memories is standing quietly with my mum and having badger cubs not only running around us but rolling over my fluffy grey slippers. I think I was infant school age, or possibly first year juniors. Yes they can be destructive, but they always use the same route so leave a hole in the fence to save them keep breaking through. Yes they can dig up the lawn for worms, but if you throw your meal leftovers out they'll eat those instead. They can rip up dry grass for bedding, unless you leave straw out and they'll take that instead. Now I have moved I am not near a badger sett. I miss them. Badgers were here first, are beautiful creatures, and should stay. That is why they are protected. As for the defra thing over the cull, there is more evidence for TB going from cattle to badgers than the other way, plus there is much cattle movement by truck now (especially after foot & mouth re-stocking) and there are allegations that that is why TB is on the rise - not badgers. saarfender

12:06pm Fri 13 Dec 13

Little John says...

intwo wrote:
It is easy to make comments when you do not have badgers in your garden.
My mother had badgers and every now and then they would tidy up their set and with the old hay would come numerous cat collars which bore an uncanny resemblance to the signs on the local lampposts.
I will never forget as a child playing in the garden and hearing Les who lived two door along screaming as the ground gave way into a badger run when he was putting his washing out. By the time the ambulance and police arrive he was dead and the council first gassed the badgers and when that did not work they arranged for an organisation to move the badgers.
As they not small animals, they are strong, and they do eat meat.
"They do eat meat"

Does this include Les?
[quote][p][bold]intwo[/bold] wrote: It is easy to make comments when you do not have badgers in your garden. My mother had badgers and every now and then they would tidy up their set and with the old hay would come numerous cat collars which bore an uncanny resemblance to the signs on the local lampposts. I will never forget as a child playing in the garden and hearing Les who lived two door along screaming as the ground gave way into a badger run when he was putting his washing out. By the time the ambulance and police arrive he was dead and the council first gassed the badgers and when that did not work they arranged for an organisation to move the badgers. As they not small animals, they are strong, and they do eat meat.[/p][/quote]"They do eat meat" Does this include Les? Little John

12:06pm Fri 13 Dec 13

lyndylou22 says...

Ha ha ha ha ha - this story made me laugh. Badgers as big as Shetland Ponies - more holes in this story than in her garden. Badgers are protected and should be left alone. Reminds me of the stories demonising foxes in the Tory papers a few months ago, if this is all this woman has got to worry about she is very lucky!
Ha ha ha ha ha - this story made me laugh. Badgers as big as Shetland Ponies - more holes in this story than in her garden. Badgers are protected and should be left alone. Reminds me of the stories demonising foxes in the Tory papers a few months ago, if this is all this woman has got to worry about she is very lucky! lyndylou22

1:01pm Fri 13 Dec 13

Shadowmoon says...

Here we go again. If it's not Foxes, it's Badgers. People like her need to remember that it was humans that took their habitat away to build her concrete slab of a home. She needs a bloody good slap! ...So do the press for covering fairy tales!
Here we go again. If it's not Foxes, it's Badgers. People like her need to remember that it was humans that took their habitat away to build her concrete slab of a home. She needs a bloody good slap! ...So do the press for covering fairy tales! Shadowmoon

1:16pm Fri 13 Dec 13

Fred the Phoenix says...

Badgers as big as Shetland Ponies, ha ha, methinks the lady doth exaggerate greatly. Badgers were here long before mankind evolved, they have far more right to be here than we do so leave them alone and if you don't like them then MOVE!!!
Badgers as big as Shetland Ponies, ha ha, methinks the lady doth exaggerate greatly. Badgers were here long before mankind evolved, they have far more right to be here than we do so leave them alone and if you don't like them then MOVE!!! Fred the Phoenix

1:43pm Fri 13 Dec 13

Mattster says...

"They’re as big as Shetland ponies, they’re huge." Of course they are love! Personaly i would be worried about the Rats that love to live under decking than Badgers.
"They’re as big as Shetland ponies, they’re huge." Of course they are love! Personaly i would be worried about the Rats that love to live under decking than Badgers. Mattster

1:47pm Fri 13 Dec 13

Mattster says...

intwo wrote:
It is easy to make comments when you do not have badgers in your garden.
My mother had badgers and every now and then they would tidy up their set and with the old hay would come numerous cat collars which bore an uncanny resemblance to the signs on the local lampposts.
I will never forget as a child playing in the garden and hearing Les who lived two door along screaming as the ground gave way into a badger run when he was putting his washing out. By the time the ambulance and police arrive he was dead and the council first gassed the badgers and when that did not work they arranged for an organisation to move the badgers.
As they not small animals, they are strong, and they do eat meat.
The badgers obviously read Stephen King.
[quote][p][bold]intwo[/bold] wrote: It is easy to make comments when you do not have badgers in your garden. My mother had badgers and every now and then they would tidy up their set and with the old hay would come numerous cat collars which bore an uncanny resemblance to the signs on the local lampposts. I will never forget as a child playing in the garden and hearing Les who lived two door along screaming as the ground gave way into a badger run when he was putting his washing out. By the time the ambulance and police arrive he was dead and the council first gassed the badgers and when that did not work they arranged for an organisation to move the badgers. As they not small animals, they are strong, and they do eat meat.[/p][/quote]The badgers obviously read Stephen King. Mattster

2:05pm Fri 13 Dec 13

Phil McCrakin says...

I think she should have gone to Specsavers....
I think she should have gone to Specsavers.... Phil McCrakin

2:11pm Fri 13 Dec 13

intwo says...

Little John wrote:
intwo wrote:
It is easy to make comments when you do not have badgers in your garden.
My mother had badgers and every now and then they would tidy up their set and with the old hay would come numerous cat collars which bore an uncanny resemblance to the signs on the local lampposts.
I will never forget as a child playing in the garden and hearing Les who lived two door along screaming as the ground gave way into a badger run when he was putting his washing out. By the time the ambulance and police arrive he was dead and the council first gassed the badgers and when that did not work they arranged for an organisation to move the badgers.
As they not small animals, they are strong, and they do eat meat.
"They do eat meat"

Does this include Les?
Les was indeed killed by the badgers as when the ground collapsed he fell into their sett. Rochford Council gassed the badgers and David Wright of St Johns Drive removed some of the badgers to epping forest
[quote][p][bold]Little John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]intwo[/bold] wrote: It is easy to make comments when you do not have badgers in your garden. My mother had badgers and every now and then they would tidy up their set and with the old hay would come numerous cat collars which bore an uncanny resemblance to the signs on the local lampposts. I will never forget as a child playing in the garden and hearing Les who lived two door along screaming as the ground gave way into a badger run when he was putting his washing out. By the time the ambulance and police arrive he was dead and the council first gassed the badgers and when that did not work they arranged for an organisation to move the badgers. As they not small animals, they are strong, and they do eat meat.[/p][/quote]"They do eat meat" Does this include Les?[/p][/quote]Les was indeed killed by the badgers as when the ground collapsed he fell into their sett. Rochford Council gassed the badgers and David Wright of St Johns Drive removed some of the badgers to epping forest intwo

2:34pm Fri 13 Dec 13

Rhoda Dendron says...

I think this waste of skin has had enough coverage.........

We have a nightly visit from a boar as big as a Suffolk Punch who we call Brokensword because he has a deformed front paw - absolutely beautiful animal (who adores malted milk biscuits and will take them from your hand - although not recommended).

Sorry to hear about what befell Les
I think this waste of skin has had enough coverage......... We have a nightly visit from a boar as big as a Suffolk Punch who we call Brokensword because he has a deformed front paw - absolutely beautiful animal (who adores malted milk biscuits and will take them from your hand - although not recommended). Sorry to hear about what befell Les Rhoda Dendron

2:37pm Fri 13 Dec 13

dhd says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
I love wild animals but if I'd paid a fortune for decking I wouldn't like to see it ruined.

It's all too easy to be judgemental isn't it until it happens to you.

However, I don't believe a) they are as big as Shetland ponies and b) they are any danger to children as they are very timid.

Dogs are more likely to be dangerous to children.

And in any case, I thought there was a badger cull going on... a few months ago that was all over the media.
There is not a badger cull going on. There was a pilot cull in a couple of areas for a few weeks which has now happily been halted and hopefully for good. For those that are interested Mark Francois MP is pro badger cull and is for repealing the fox hunting act.
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: I love wild animals but if I'd paid a fortune for decking I wouldn't like to see it ruined. It's all too easy to be judgemental isn't it until it happens to you. However, I don't believe a) they are as big as Shetland ponies and b) they are any danger to children as they are very timid. Dogs are more likely to be dangerous to children. And in any case, I thought there was a badger cull going on... a few months ago that was all over the media.[/p][/quote]There is not a badger cull going on. There was a pilot cull in a couple of areas for a few weeks which has now happily been halted and hopefully for good. For those that are interested Mark Francois MP is pro badger cull and is for repealing the fox hunting act. dhd

2:45pm Fri 13 Dec 13

smiffy1980 says...

Fred the Phoenix wrote:
You should be grateful. If you don't like them MOVE and let someone who will appreciate these lovely creatures buy your house
Dont think its quite as simple as that is it. It cant be nice living with it and besides, IF they were to try and sell up and move, not too sure many people would be up for buying a house that has a poor mans marsh farm in the back garden!!
[quote][p][bold]Fred the Phoenix[/bold] wrote: You should be grateful. If you don't like them MOVE and let someone who will appreciate these lovely creatures buy your house[/p][/quote]Dont think its quite as simple as that is it. It cant be nice living with it and besides, IF they were to try and sell up and move, not too sure many people would be up for buying a house that has a poor mans marsh farm in the back garden!! smiffy1980

2:48pm Fri 13 Dec 13

Rochford Rob says...

CHRISTMAS CAROL wrote:
The badgers were there first. I would love to have them in my garden
They were?

She's 38. How old are the badgers then?

In your garden as long as they didn't live, sh*t and dig there no doubt.
[quote][p][bold]CHRISTMAS CAROL[/bold] wrote: The badgers were there first. I would love to have them in my garden[/p][/quote]They were? She's 38. How old are the badgers then? In your garden as long as they didn't live, sh*t and dig there no doubt. Rochford Rob

2:58pm Fri 13 Dec 13

dhd says...

Rochford Rob wrote:
CHRISTMAS CAROL wrote:
The badgers were there first. I would love to have them in my garden
They were?

She's 38. How old are the badgers then?

In your garden as long as they didn't live, sh*t and dig there no doubt.
Badgers usually live in the same setts for hundreds of years.
[quote][p][bold]Rochford Rob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CHRISTMAS CAROL[/bold] wrote: The badgers were there first. I would love to have them in my garden[/p][/quote]They were? She's 38. How old are the badgers then? In your garden as long as they didn't live, sh*t and dig there no doubt.[/p][/quote]Badgers usually live in the same setts for hundreds of years. dhd

3:32pm Fri 13 Dec 13

maxell says...

it is really an honour to have badgers in your garden but unfortunatly what is natural to them = distruction of stuff for others, there is a simple trick that you can use to move the creatures on, no baits noises or anything like that and it costs zero, badgers mark their territory with pheromones, somebody told me this and it worked a treat, after only two nights they decided that the place was not for them so moved on , of their own accord ,
Instructions: (assuming you are fit)

1.make sure you are male
2. try not to have to much to drink for a day (you should not want to releive yourself as much)
3. when you do finally need to releave yourself your urine will be much stronger.
4.collect into a plastic container (not metal)
5. distribute the unire at places where Mr B is know to frequent.

you may need to repeat this, what you are doing is basically re establishing your terrotorial rights with male dominant pheromones. and there is no laws that prevent you from having a pee in your garden.
it is really an honour to have badgers in your garden but unfortunatly what is natural to them = distruction of stuff for others, there is a simple trick that you can use to move the creatures on, no baits noises or anything like that and it costs zero, badgers mark their territory with pheromones, somebody told me this and it worked a treat, after only two nights they decided that the place was not for them so moved on , of their own accord , Instructions: (assuming you are fit) 1.make sure you are male 2. try not to have to much to drink for a day (you should not want to releive yourself as much) 3. when you do finally need to releave yourself your urine will be much stronger. 4.collect into a plastic container (not metal) 5. distribute the unire at places where Mr B is know to frequent. you may need to repeat this, what you are doing is basically re establishing your terrotorial rights with male dominant pheromones. and there is no laws that prevent you from having a pee in your garden. maxell

3:56pm Fri 13 Dec 13

Test Tickle says...

Hmmmm I wonder if all those flies that must swarm around that dog cr*p in the summer months are as big as spitfires?

I bet she tell the neighbours her husband is well endowed as well, like an Anaconda it was ;)
Hmmmm I wonder if all those flies that must swarm around that dog cr*p in the summer months are as big as spitfires? I bet she tell the neighbours her husband is well endowed as well, like an Anaconda it was ;) Test Tickle

4:18pm Fri 13 Dec 13

Fred the Phoenix says...

smiffy1980 wrote:
Fred the Phoenix wrote:
You should be grateful. If you don't like them MOVE and let someone who will appreciate these lovely creatures buy your house
Dont think its quite as simple as that is it. It cant be nice living with it and besides, IF they were to try and sell up and move, not too sure many people would be up for buying a house that has a poor mans marsh farm in the back garden!!
Er yes it is. Whenever we get a badger in the garden I love it, and so should she, it's an honour unless you are one of these people with such dull boring lives that manicuring your lawn is your main reason for living.
[quote][p][bold]smiffy1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fred the Phoenix[/bold] wrote: You should be grateful. If you don't like them MOVE and let someone who will appreciate these lovely creatures buy your house[/p][/quote]Dont think its quite as simple as that is it. It cant be nice living with it and besides, IF they were to try and sell up and move, not too sure many people would be up for buying a house that has a poor mans marsh farm in the back garden!![/p][/quote]Er yes it is. Whenever we get a badger in the garden I love it, and so should she, it's an honour unless you are one of these people with such dull boring lives that manicuring your lawn is your main reason for living. Fred the Phoenix

4:51pm Fri 13 Dec 13

Nelly99 says...

maxell wrote:
it is really an honour to have badgers in your garden but unfortunatly what is natural to them = distruction of stuff for others, there is a simple trick that you can use to move the creatures on, no baits noises or anything like that and it costs zero, badgers mark their territory with pheromones, somebody told me this and it worked a treat, after only two nights they decided that the place was not for them so moved on , of their own accord , Instructions: (assuming you are fit) 1.make sure you are male 2. try not to have to much to drink for a day (you should not want to releive yourself as much) 3. when you do finally need to releave yourself your urine will be much stronger. 4.collect into a plastic container (not metal) 5. distribute the unire at places where Mr B is know to frequent. you may need to repeat this, what you are doing is basically re establishing your terrotorial rights with male dominant pheromones. and there is no laws that prevent you from having a pee in your garden.
There is if you do it from an upstairs window! Make sure you are male...Brilliant!
[quote][p][bold]maxell[/bold] wrote: it is really an honour to have badgers in your garden but unfortunatly what is natural to them = distruction of stuff for others, there is a simple trick that you can use to move the creatures on, no baits noises or anything like that and it costs zero, badgers mark their territory with pheromones, somebody told me this and it worked a treat, after only two nights they decided that the place was not for them so moved on , of their own accord , Instructions: (assuming you are fit) 1.make sure you are male 2. try not to have to much to drink for a day (you should not want to releive yourself as much) 3. when you do finally need to releave yourself your urine will be much stronger. 4.collect into a plastic container (not metal) 5. distribute the unire at places where Mr B is know to frequent. you may need to repeat this, what you are doing is basically re establishing your terrotorial rights with male dominant pheromones. and there is no laws that prevent you from having a pee in your garden.[/p][/quote]There is if you do it from an upstairs window! Make sure you are male...Brilliant! Nelly99

5:45pm Fri 13 Dec 13

InTheKnowOk says...

'She wants to remove them from her 75-ft garden, but has been told she cannot act until next June because of the badger breeding season'.

Doesn't stop developers moving them though does it!
'She wants to remove them from her 75-ft garden, but has been told she cannot act until next June because of the badger breeding season'. Doesn't stop developers moving them though does it! InTheKnowOk

5:47pm Fri 13 Dec 13

InTheKnowOk says...

Btw, I get badgers in my garden and they cause less problems than cats cr@pping all over the place ..
Btw, I get badgers in my garden and they cause less problems than cats cr@pping all over the place .. InTheKnowOk

6:14pm Fri 13 Dec 13

The badgerman says...

As Chairman of a badger group and with a life time of studying badgers I have never seen a badger the size of a Shetland pony, so would love to see these
As Chairman of a badger group and with a life time of studying badgers I have never seen a badger the size of a Shetland pony, so would love to see these The badgerman

6:39pm Fri 13 Dec 13

Blind Haze says...

Perhaps this will help.

Www.badgerbadgerbadg
er.com
Perhaps this will help. Www.badgerbadgerbadg er.com Blind Haze

9:33pm Fri 13 Dec 13

Mikkel1 says...

In all my life, I have NEVER seen a live badger, even driving over Langdon Hills, which I know there are some, as I have seen 2 dead on the roadside.
In all my life, I have NEVER seen a live badger, even driving over Langdon Hills, which I know there are some, as I have seen 2 dead on the roadside. Mikkel1

9:34pm Fri 13 Dec 13

Leighdweller says...

dhd wrote:
Rochford Rob wrote:
CHRISTMAS CAROL wrote:
The badgers were there first. I would love to have them in my garden
They were?

She's 38. How old are the badgers then?

In your garden as long as they didn't live, sh*t and dig there no doubt.
Badgers usually live in the same setts for hundreds of years.
So not only are the badgers the size of a small horse, they are a couple of hundred years old??? I think the Echo has put the wrong spin on this story.

Despite my overwhelmingly negative feedback, I'm not against the badgers in my back garden, nor the foxes nor the squirrels. In fact the squirrels do a lot more damage than the badgers. (Awaits backlash from the squirrel liberation front)
[quote][p][bold]dhd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rochford Rob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CHRISTMAS CAROL[/bold] wrote: The badgers were there first. I would love to have them in my garden[/p][/quote]They were? She's 38. How old are the badgers then? In your garden as long as they didn't live, sh*t and dig there no doubt.[/p][/quote]Badgers usually live in the same setts for hundreds of years.[/p][/quote]So not only are the badgers the size of a small horse, they are a couple of hundred years old??? I think the Echo has put the wrong spin on this story. Despite my overwhelmingly negative feedback, I'm not against the badgers in my back garden, nor the foxes nor the squirrels. In fact the squirrels do a lot more damage than the badgers. (Awaits backlash from the squirrel liberation front) Leighdweller

10:11pm Fri 13 Dec 13

Ed Woods says...

DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
a thought has just occured to me...maybe they are actual Shetland ponys and not Badgers.
As they live underground perhaps they are a forgotten colony of former pit ponies?
[quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: a thought has just occured to me...maybe they are actual Shetland ponys and not Badgers.[/p][/quote]As they live underground perhaps they are a forgotten colony of former pit ponies? Ed Woods

10:48pm Fri 13 Dec 13

BAZMAN 2 says...

The answer seems to be feed them . We have seen hundreds of reports of people feeding badgers in their gardens with no damage done . they are digging for worms give them dog food or peanuts and the worms wont look so attractive .
The answer seems to be feed them . We have seen hundreds of reports of people feeding badgers in their gardens with no damage done . they are digging for worms give them dog food or peanuts and the worms wont look so attractive . BAZMAN 2

11:04pm Fri 13 Dec 13

Arlene says...

Buy yourself a trail camera and film them. You might learn something and enjoy watching them in the process. Amazing animals, to be admired. :)
Buy yourself a trail camera and film them. You might learn something and enjoy watching them in the process. Amazing animals, to be admired. :) Arlene

11:36pm Fri 13 Dec 13

profondo asbo says...

brother can you spare another cull?
brother can you spare another cull? profondo asbo

8:35am Sat 14 Dec 13

peepo01 says...

Gassing badgers is completely inhumane which was proven & outlawed ...Think auschwitz. Setts are historical &most have been in their locations for hundreds of years.Looks a fairly modern house, the construction company should have completed an environmental impact assessment before building these houses.
Gassing badgers is completely inhumane which was proven & outlawed ...Think auschwitz. Setts are historical &most have been in their locations for hundreds of years.Looks a fairly modern house, the construction company should have completed an environmental impact assessment before building these houses. peepo01

10:19am Sat 14 Dec 13

Nowthatsworthknowing says...

If I was you, I'd bury a camera in their set, and put it on you tube, earn a fortune....
If I was you, I'd bury a camera in their set, and put it on you tube, earn a fortune.... Nowthatsworthknowing

11:16am Sat 14 Dec 13

profondo asbo says...

BAZMAN 2 wrote:
The answer seems to be feed them . We have seen hundreds of reports of people feeding badgers in their gardens with no damage done . they are digging for worms give them dog food or peanuts and the worms wont look so attractive .
yes let's all boost the rat, fox and badger population in no particular order...
[quote][p][bold]BAZMAN 2[/bold] wrote: The answer seems to be feed them . We have seen hundreds of reports of people feeding badgers in their gardens with no damage done . they are digging for worms give them dog food or peanuts and the worms wont look so attractive .[/p][/quote]yes let's all boost the rat, fox and badger population in no particular order... profondo asbo

3:29pm Sat 14 Dec 13

stvr0s says...

ramasesuk wrote:
Is this woman for real? Does she think these huge badgers the size of shetland ponies are man eaters? Lol. Cant really see why she thinks its unsafe for her kids to go out! The badgers were there before the houses were built no doubt. Leave them be and enjoy them
Are you for real? Would you let your kids go play with foxes or badgers in the garden? There have been enough cases of both attacking people so not sure what kind of parent or responsible adult you'd make?!
[quote][p][bold]ramasesuk[/bold] wrote: Is this woman for real? Does she think these huge badgers the size of shetland ponies are man eaters? Lol. Cant really see why she thinks its unsafe for her kids to go out! The badgers were there before the houses were built no doubt. Leave them be and enjoy them[/p][/quote]Are you for real? Would you let your kids go play with foxes or badgers in the garden? There have been enough cases of both attacking people so not sure what kind of parent or responsible adult you'd make?! stvr0s

3:51pm Sat 14 Dec 13

ShipShape says...

I misread 'Huge Badgers' and thought this was an article about large men doing a bit of illegal cottaging!
I misread 'Huge Badgers' and thought this was an article about large men doing a bit of illegal cottaging! ShipShape

3:55pm Sat 14 Dec 13

stvr0s says...

peepo01 wrote:
Gassing badgers is completely inhumane which was proven & outlawed ...Think auschwitz. Setts are historical &most have been in their locations for hundreds of years.Looks a fairly modern house, the construction company should have completed an environmental impact assessment before building these houses.
I'm amazed at some of the comments that are on here. I never knew there were so many people around who loved badgers so much.

And there seems to be a badger expert in the forum although that's not something i'd admit in public if I ever wanted to develop social relationships with other human beings!

Being realistic for a minute, this lady obviously never bought her house with the badgers in the garden did she?! So, the badgers clearly weren't there first.

For the treehuggers making comments - national wildlife trust estimates that the badger has inhabited the British isles for about 250000 years, yet according to the national history museum archives the first ancient human ancestors came here 800000 years ago so the badger's trumped on that one too!

Lastly, shame on the writer of this article. This lady came to you for help and you have obviously either quoted her out of context (or without any context at all) or embellished foolishly of your own freewill in her wording regarding the size of these animals, and how dumb of the readers to take any such comment as something that would actually be meant.

The result is that when she thought she had no where else to turn but to search for the empathy of her fellow mankind, you all either mock her or bang on about the rights of badgers

Obviously not point in ever asking the echo for objective, accurate and reliable help is there?!
[quote][p][bold]peepo01[/bold] wrote: Gassing badgers is completely inhumane which was proven & outlawed ...Think auschwitz. Setts are historical &most have been in their locations for hundreds of years.Looks a fairly modern house, the construction company should have completed an environmental impact assessment before building these houses.[/p][/quote]I'm amazed at some of the comments that are on here. I never knew there were so many people around who loved badgers so much. And there seems to be a badger expert in the forum although that's not something i'd admit in public if I ever wanted to develop social relationships with other human beings! Being realistic for a minute, this lady obviously never bought her house with the badgers in the garden did she?! So, the badgers clearly weren't there first. For the treehuggers making comments - national wildlife trust estimates that the badger has inhabited the British isles for about 250000 years, yet according to the national history museum archives the first ancient human ancestors came here 800000 years ago so the badger's trumped on that one too! Lastly, shame on the writer of this article. This lady came to you for help and you have obviously either quoted her out of context (or without any context at all) or embellished foolishly of your own freewill in her wording regarding the size of these animals, and how dumb of the readers to take any such comment as something that would actually be meant. The result is that when she thought she had no where else to turn but to search for the empathy of her fellow mankind, you all either mock her or bang on about the rights of badgers Obviously not point in ever asking the echo for objective, accurate and reliable help is there?! stvr0s

3:58pm Sat 14 Dec 13

stvr0s says...

stvr0s wrote:
peepo01 wrote:
Gassing badgers is completely inhumane which was proven & outlawed ...Think auschwitz. Setts are historical &most have been in their locations for hundreds of years.Looks a fairly modern house, the construction company should have completed an environmental impact assessment before building these houses.
I'm amazed at some of the comments that are on here. I never knew there were so many people around who loved badgers so much.

And there seems to be a badger expert in the forum although that's not something i'd admit in public if I ever wanted to develop social relationships with other human beings!

Being realistic for a minute, this lady obviously never bought her house with the badgers in the garden did she?! So, the badgers clearly weren't there first.

For the treehuggers making comments - national wildlife trust estimates that the badger has inhabited the British isles for about 250000 years, yet according to the national history museum archives the first ancient human ancestors came here 800000 years ago so the badger's trumped on that one too!

Lastly, shame on the writer of this article. This lady came to you for help and you have obviously either quoted her out of context (or without any context at all) or embellished foolishly of your own freewill in her wording regarding the size of these animals, and how dumb of the readers to take any such comment as something that would actually be meant.

The result is that when she thought she had no where else to turn but to search for the empathy of her fellow mankind, you all either mock her or bang on about the rights of badgers

Obviously not point in ever asking the echo for objective, accurate and reliable help is there?!
Never meant to quote your post peepo01 apologies for that
[quote][p][bold]stvr0s[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]peepo01[/bold] wrote: Gassing badgers is completely inhumane which was proven & outlawed ...Think auschwitz. Setts are historical &most have been in their locations for hundreds of years.Looks a fairly modern house, the construction company should have completed an environmental impact assessment before building these houses.[/p][/quote]I'm amazed at some of the comments that are on here. I never knew there were so many people around who loved badgers so much. And there seems to be a badger expert in the forum although that's not something i'd admit in public if I ever wanted to develop social relationships with other human beings! Being realistic for a minute, this lady obviously never bought her house with the badgers in the garden did she?! So, the badgers clearly weren't there first. For the treehuggers making comments - national wildlife trust estimates that the badger has inhabited the British isles for about 250000 years, yet according to the national history museum archives the first ancient human ancestors came here 800000 years ago so the badger's trumped on that one too! Lastly, shame on the writer of this article. This lady came to you for help and you have obviously either quoted her out of context (or without any context at all) or embellished foolishly of your own freewill in her wording regarding the size of these animals, and how dumb of the readers to take any such comment as something that would actually be meant. The result is that when she thought she had no where else to turn but to search for the empathy of her fellow mankind, you all either mock her or bang on about the rights of badgers Obviously not point in ever asking the echo for objective, accurate and reliable help is there?![/p][/quote]Never meant to quote your post peepo01 apologies for that stvr0s

4:53pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Fred the Phoenix says...

stvr0s wrote:
peepo01 wrote:
Gassing badgers is completely inhumane which was proven & outlawed ...Think auschwitz. Setts are historical &most have been in their locations for hundreds of years.Looks a fairly modern house, the construction company should have completed an environmental impact assessment before building these houses.
I'm amazed at some of the comments that are on here. I never knew there were so many people around who loved badgers so much.

And there seems to be a badger expert in the forum although that's not something i'd admit in public if I ever wanted to develop social relationships with other human beings!

Being realistic for a minute, this lady obviously never bought her house with the badgers in the garden did she?! So, the badgers clearly weren't there first.

For the treehuggers making comments - national wildlife trust estimates that the badger has inhabited the British isles for about 250000 years, yet according to the national history museum archives the first ancient human ancestors came here 800000 years ago so the badger's trumped on that one too!

Lastly, shame on the writer of this article. This lady came to you for help and you have obviously either quoted her out of context (or without any context at all) or embellished foolishly of your own freewill in her wording regarding the size of these animals, and how dumb of the readers to take any such comment as something that would actually be meant.

The result is that when she thought she had no where else to turn but to search for the empathy of her fellow mankind, you all either mock her or bang on about the rights of badgers

Obviously not point in ever asking the echo for objective, accurate and reliable help is there?!
Um, there were NO human ancestors here 800,000 years ago, the only hominids who were here at that time were no ancestors of ours, they were a side branch of our species that are now extinct. Homo Sapiens did not evolve until somewhere between 100k and 200k years ago in Africa and all non African people are descended from humans who left Africa c 60 or 70k years ago, and probably didn't get to this country until 30 to 40k years ago at best, and certainly weren't here in significant numbers until after the last glacial period c10k years ago which is LONG after Badgers arrived here 250k years ago. OK? And badgers do not dig new setts in new gardens, as someone else said they tend to use the same setts for centuries so the badgers were almost certainly there before this house was built.
[quote][p][bold]stvr0s[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]peepo01[/bold] wrote: Gassing badgers is completely inhumane which was proven & outlawed ...Think auschwitz. Setts are historical &most have been in their locations for hundreds of years.Looks a fairly modern house, the construction company should have completed an environmental impact assessment before building these houses.[/p][/quote]I'm amazed at some of the comments that are on here. I never knew there were so many people around who loved badgers so much. And there seems to be a badger expert in the forum although that's not something i'd admit in public if I ever wanted to develop social relationships with other human beings! Being realistic for a minute, this lady obviously never bought her house with the badgers in the garden did she?! So, the badgers clearly weren't there first. For the treehuggers making comments - national wildlife trust estimates that the badger has inhabited the British isles for about 250000 years, yet according to the national history museum archives the first ancient human ancestors came here 800000 years ago so the badger's trumped on that one too! Lastly, shame on the writer of this article. This lady came to you for help and you have obviously either quoted her out of context (or without any context at all) or embellished foolishly of your own freewill in her wording regarding the size of these animals, and how dumb of the readers to take any such comment as something that would actually be meant. The result is that when she thought she had no where else to turn but to search for the empathy of her fellow mankind, you all either mock her or bang on about the rights of badgers Obviously not point in ever asking the echo for objective, accurate and reliable help is there?![/p][/quote]Um, there were NO human ancestors here 800,000 years ago, the only hominids who were here at that time were no ancestors of ours, they were a side branch of our species that are now extinct. Homo Sapiens did not evolve until somewhere between 100k and 200k years ago in Africa and all non African people are descended from humans who left Africa c 60 or 70k years ago, and probably didn't get to this country until 30 to 40k years ago at best, and certainly weren't here in significant numbers until after the last glacial period c10k years ago which is LONG after Badgers arrived here 250k years ago. OK? And badgers do not dig new setts in new gardens, as someone else said they tend to use the same setts for centuries so the badgers were almost certainly there before this house was built. Fred the Phoenix

5:32pm Sat 14 Dec 13

stvr0s says...

are you one of these badger experts with no friends i was referring to? you must be, because if you completely miss the point that human lives are being impacted by this and yet all of a sudden everyones got an opinion about an animal that is culled and killed everyday without the general population of this country battering an eyelid.

my reference go these sources, was more than anything to highlight the ridiculousness in the nature of some of these comments, but seems, you didn't really get that.

I could not care less if the badger was here first. we live an a completely human driven capitalistic society that has excelled only by advancing ourselves above other species. why should our comfort not be protected? why should the things we work hard to build be destroyed by badgers that "can't" be moved.

I hope tomorrow a thousand badgers make camp in your back garden and start destroying not only your garden but your house. then you can take some photos and ask echo to do an article about how happy you are that your paying mortgage for your own mini wildlife park and you wouldn't have a complaint in the world about it.
are you one of these badger experts with no friends i was referring to? you must be, because if you completely miss the point that human lives are being impacted by this and yet all of a sudden everyones got an opinion about an animal that is culled and killed everyday without the general population of this country battering an eyelid. my reference go these sources, was more than anything to highlight the ridiculousness in the nature of some of these comments, but seems, you didn't really get that. I could not care less if the badger was here first. we live an a completely human driven capitalistic society that has excelled only by advancing ourselves above other species. why should our comfort not be protected? why should the things we work hard to build be destroyed by badgers that "can't" be moved. I hope tomorrow a thousand badgers make camp in your back garden and start destroying not only your garden but your house. then you can take some photos and ask echo to do an article about how happy you are that your paying mortgage for your own mini wildlife park and you wouldn't have a complaint in the world about it. stvr0s

5:36pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Fred the Phoenix says...

Minor correction for the more pedantic readers, the hominids who were here c800k and more years ago - Homo Heidelbergensis and Homo Neanderthalis - were not so much a side branch of our species as a side branch from our ancestral line, in other words both our line and their line had common ancestors long before Homo Sapiens evolved.
Minor correction for the more pedantic readers, the hominids who were here c800k and more years ago - Homo Heidelbergensis and Homo Neanderthalis - were not so much a side branch of our species as a side branch from our ancestral line, in other words both our line and their line had common ancestors long before Homo Sapiens evolved. Fred the Phoenix

5:41pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Fred the Phoenix says...

stvr0s I don't know anyone who doesn't love and respect animals like badgers and many people in this country DO bat an eyelid at these culls. You on the other hand are just the sort of blinkered narrow minded hypocrite who is causing mankind so many problems. No doubt you think you are superior to all the animals but you have just proven that you are not.
stvr0s I don't know anyone who doesn't love and respect animals like badgers and many people in this country DO bat an eyelid at these culls. You on the other hand are just the sort of blinkered narrow minded hypocrite who is causing mankind so many problems. No doubt you think you are superior to all the animals but you have just proven that you are not. Fred the Phoenix

6:02pm Sat 14 Dec 13

stvr0s says...

Fred the Phoenix wrote:
stvr0s I don't know anyone who doesn't love and respect animals like badgers and many people in this country DO bat an eyelid at these culls. You on the other hand are just the sort of blinkered narrow minded hypocrite who is causing mankind so many problems. No doubt you think you are superior to all the animals but you have just proven that you are not.
how do you figure that? would you not complain if a load of badgers dug under the foundations of your house or dug up your garden?

no... i'm not the hypocrite fred. i'm being honest. if you say that you would honestly not complain, then fair enough, I wont call you a liar since you seem to know a lot about badgers and so this could be plausible that you might be someone to allow the devaluation of your property and lifestyle in favour of their comfort. but generally I don't think you or anyone else here would actually not want them gone, so you see, its you that is the hypocrite with your self righteous double standards.

you live in a world that was developed only by the wilful destruction of the natural world around us. you partake of it, the fuel in your tank, the silicone and gold in the computer you're using was mined from the earth. you probably wear leather, eat meat, fish and don't think that all plastic derives from crude oil, the mining for which is destroying our entire planet from the inside out.

and you're calling me a hypocrite for asking why you're worried about some badgers?
you would want them gone. I wont believe you if you say otherwise!


but I don't know what grounds you think you've got for implying that the majority of people would not complain about them?!
[quote][p][bold]Fred the Phoenix[/bold] wrote: stvr0s I don't know anyone who doesn't love and respect animals like badgers and many people in this country DO bat an eyelid at these culls. You on the other hand are just the sort of blinkered narrow minded hypocrite who is causing mankind so many problems. No doubt you think you are superior to all the animals but you have just proven that you are not.[/p][/quote]how do you figure that? would you not complain if a load of badgers dug under the foundations of your house or dug up your garden? no... i'm not the hypocrite fred. i'm being honest. if you say that you would honestly not complain, then fair enough, I wont call you a liar since you seem to know a lot about badgers and so this could be plausible that you might be someone to allow the devaluation of your property and lifestyle in favour of their comfort. but generally I don't think you or anyone else here would actually not want them gone, so you see, its you that is the hypocrite with your self righteous double standards. you live in a world that was developed only by the wilful destruction of the natural world around us. you partake of it, the fuel in your tank, the silicone and gold in the computer you're using was mined from the earth. you probably wear leather, eat meat, fish and don't think that all plastic derives from crude oil, the mining for which is destroying our entire planet from the inside out. and you're calling me a hypocrite for asking why you're worried about some badgers? you would want them gone. I wont believe you if you say otherwise! but I don't know what grounds you think you've got for implying that the majority of people would not complain about them?! stvr0s

6:47pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Fred the Phoenix says...

I have never heard of a case of badgers undermining foundations but please enlighten me if you know different. Like I said, the sett in this story has probably been there for centuries and it is highly unlikely they have enlarged it recently. We do get badgers in our garden and occasionally they do dig up a bit of the garden looking for earthworms but I don't care, they are welcome to do that. And I am no hypocrite, I have not eaten the dead bodies of animals for decades, I drive a low emissions car and I take most of my holidays on my little sailing boat. Howzat!
I have never heard of a case of badgers undermining foundations but please enlighten me if you know different. Like I said, the sett in this story has probably been there for centuries and it is highly unlikely they have enlarged it recently. We do get badgers in our garden and occasionally they do dig up a bit of the garden looking for earthworms but I don't care, they are welcome to do that. And I am no hypocrite, I have not eaten the dead bodies of animals for decades, I drive a low emissions car and I take most of my holidays on my little sailing boat. Howzat! Fred the Phoenix

6:51pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Fred the Phoenix says...

ps There has been huge opposition to the badger culls, just goggle it.
ps There has been huge opposition to the badger culls, just goggle it. Fred the Phoenix

6:53pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Lastlaugh,,. says...

stvr0s wrote:
are you one of these badger experts with no friends i was referring to? you must be, because if you completely miss the point that human lives are being impacted by this and yet all of a sudden everyones got an opinion about an animal that is culled and killed everyday without the general population of this country battering an eyelid.

my reference go these sources, was more than anything to highlight the ridiculousness in the nature of some of these comments, but seems, you didn't really get that.

I could not care less if the badger was here first. we live an a completely human driven capitalistic society that has excelled only by advancing ourselves above other species. why should our comfort not be protected? why should the things we work hard to build be destroyed by badgers that "can't" be moved.

I hope tomorrow a thousand badgers make camp in your back garden and start destroying not only your garden but your house. then you can take some photos and ask echo to do an article about how happy you are that your paying mortgage for your own mini wildlife park and you wouldn't have a complaint in the world about it.
You actually seem more extreme that those you imply are extreme..
[quote][p][bold]stvr0s[/bold] wrote: are you one of these badger experts with no friends i was referring to? you must be, because if you completely miss the point that human lives are being impacted by this and yet all of a sudden everyones got an opinion about an animal that is culled and killed everyday without the general population of this country battering an eyelid. my reference go these sources, was more than anything to highlight the ridiculousness in the nature of some of these comments, but seems, you didn't really get that. I could not care less if the badger was here first. we live an a completely human driven capitalistic society that has excelled only by advancing ourselves above other species. why should our comfort not be protected? why should the things we work hard to build be destroyed by badgers that "can't" be moved. I hope tomorrow a thousand badgers make camp in your back garden and start destroying not only your garden but your house. then you can take some photos and ask echo to do an article about how happy you are that your paying mortgage for your own mini wildlife park and you wouldn't have a complaint in the world about it.[/p][/quote]You actually seem more extreme that those you imply are extreme.. Lastlaugh,,.

7:14pm Sat 14 Dec 13

stvr0s says...

Fred the Phoenix wrote:
I have never heard of a case of badgers undermining foundations but please enlighten me if you know different. Like I said, the sett in this story has probably been there for centuries and it is highly unlikely they have enlarged it recently. We do get badgers in our garden and occasionally they do dig up a bit of the garden looking for earthworms but I don't care, they are welcome to do that. And I am no hypocrite, I have not eaten the dead bodies of animals for decades, I drive a low emissions car and I take most of my holidays on my little sailing boat. Howzat!
Fred, this isn't about the occasional badger visit to your garden. This is about them taking over your garden. Answer the question... would you put up silently with the same number or more of these badgers being there to stay for the foreseeable future at least, and with nothing you can do about it? This is what the whole article and discussion is about.

Say that you would welcome it and not complain - so that we can all believe you too!
[quote][p][bold]Fred the Phoenix[/bold] wrote: I have never heard of a case of badgers undermining foundations but please enlighten me if you know different. Like I said, the sett in this story has probably been there for centuries and it is highly unlikely they have enlarged it recently. We do get badgers in our garden and occasionally they do dig up a bit of the garden looking for earthworms but I don't care, they are welcome to do that. And I am no hypocrite, I have not eaten the dead bodies of animals for decades, I drive a low emissions car and I take most of my holidays on my little sailing boat. Howzat![/p][/quote]Fred, this isn't about the occasional badger visit to your garden. This is about them taking over your garden. Answer the question... would you put up silently with the same number or more of these badgers being there to stay for the foreseeable future at least, and with nothing you can do about it? This is what the whole article and discussion is about. Say that you would welcome it and not complain - so that we can all believe you too! stvr0s

7:23pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Fred the Phoenix says...

The largest setts can have as many as 15 individuals but that is exceptional and yes i would love having a sett in my garden. We get regular visits now because we live right next to a woods but i would love to see more and to hell with the state of my lawn.
The largest setts can have as many as 15 individuals but that is exceptional and yes i would love having a sett in my garden. We get regular visits now because we live right next to a woods but i would love to see more and to hell with the state of my lawn. Fred the Phoenix

7:57am Sun 15 Dec 13

stvr0s says...

Lastlaugh,,. wrote:
stvr0s wrote:
are you one of these badger experts with no friends i was referring to? you must be, because if you completely miss the point that human lives are being impacted by this and yet all of a sudden everyones got an opinion about an animal that is culled and killed everyday without the general population of this country battering an eyelid.

my reference go these sources, was more than anything to highlight the ridiculousness in the nature of some of these comments, but seems, you didn't really get that.

I could not care less if the badger was here first. we live an a completely human driven capitalistic society that has excelled only by advancing ourselves above other species. why should our comfort not be protected? why should the things we work hard to build be destroyed by badgers that "can't" be moved.

I hope tomorrow a thousand badgers make camp in your back garden and start destroying not only your garden but your house. then you can take some photos and ask echo to do an article about how happy you are that your paying mortgage for your own mini wildlife park and you wouldn't have a complaint in the world about it.
You actually seem more extreme that those you imply are extreme..
Never implied anyone was extreme... say something useful or do one!
[quote][p][bold]Lastlaugh,,.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stvr0s[/bold] wrote: are you one of these badger experts with no friends i was referring to? you must be, because if you completely miss the point that human lives are being impacted by this and yet all of a sudden everyones got an opinion about an animal that is culled and killed everyday without the general population of this country battering an eyelid. my reference go these sources, was more than anything to highlight the ridiculousness in the nature of some of these comments, but seems, you didn't really get that. I could not care less if the badger was here first. we live an a completely human driven capitalistic society that has excelled only by advancing ourselves above other species. why should our comfort not be protected? why should the things we work hard to build be destroyed by badgers that "can't" be moved. I hope tomorrow a thousand badgers make camp in your back garden and start destroying not only your garden but your house. then you can take some photos and ask echo to do an article about how happy you are that your paying mortgage for your own mini wildlife park and you wouldn't have a complaint in the world about it.[/p][/quote]You actually seem more extreme that those you imply are extreme..[/p][/quote]Never implied anyone was extreme... say something useful or do one! stvr0s

7:59am Sun 15 Dec 13

stvr0s says...

Fred the Phoenix wrote:
The largest setts can have as many as 15 individuals but that is exceptional and yes i would love having a sett in my garden. We get regular visits now because we live right next to a woods but i would love to see more and to hell with the state of my lawn.
fred, here it comes..... you are either a liar or a "social retard" and you won't convince me otherwise!
[quote][p][bold]Fred the Phoenix[/bold] wrote: The largest setts can have as many as 15 individuals but that is exceptional and yes i would love having a sett in my garden. We get regular visits now because we live right next to a woods but i would love to see more and to hell with the state of my lawn.[/p][/quote]fred, here it comes..... you are either a liar or a "social retard" and you won't convince me otherwise! stvr0s

9:40am Sun 15 Dec 13

Fred the Phoenix says...

stvr0s wrote:
Fred the Phoenix wrote:
The largest setts can have as many as 15 individuals but that is exceptional and yes i would love having a sett in my garden. We get regular visits now because we live right next to a woods but i would love to see more and to hell with the state of my lawn.
fred, here it comes..... you are either a liar or a "social retard" and you won't convince me otherwise!
And you are an ********. How dare you say that? Because I'm not worried about my garden? Only true retards are more worried about their bowling green lawns more than the local wildlife. Our ducks make a bit of a mess of the garden too but I wouldn't do without them for anything. I have tried going to the sett our badgers come from to watch them coming out as the sun goes down but they never come out whilst I watch, I'd love to be able to watch that from the comfort of my house, wouldn't you? Wouldn't anyone?! Only a true retard with no empathy for the natural world would say they're not interested in that.
[quote][p][bold]stvr0s[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fred the Phoenix[/bold] wrote: The largest setts can have as many as 15 individuals but that is exceptional and yes i would love having a sett in my garden. We get regular visits now because we live right next to a woods but i would love to see more and to hell with the state of my lawn.[/p][/quote]fred, here it comes..... you are either a liar or a "social retard" and you won't convince me otherwise![/p][/quote]And you are an ********. How dare you say that? Because I'm not worried about my garden? Only true retards are more worried about their bowling green lawns more than the local wildlife. Our ducks make a bit of a mess of the garden too but I wouldn't do without them for anything. I have tried going to the sett our badgers come from to watch them coming out as the sun goes down but they never come out whilst I watch, I'd love to be able to watch that from the comfort of my house, wouldn't you? Wouldn't anyone?! Only a true retard with no empathy for the natural world would say they're not interested in that. Fred the Phoenix

11:07am Sun 15 Dec 13

profondo asbo says...

gas, gas, gas!
gas, gas, gas! profondo asbo

12:59pm Sun 15 Dec 13

Lastlaugh,,. says...

stvr0s wrote:
Lastlaugh,,. wrote:
stvr0s wrote:
are you one of these badger experts with no friends i was referring to? you must be, because if you completely miss the point that human lives are being impacted by this and yet all of a sudden everyones got an opinion about an animal that is culled and killed everyday without the general population of this country battering an eyelid.

my reference go these sources, was more than anything to highlight the ridiculousness in the nature of some of these comments, but seems, you didn't really get that.

I could not care less if the badger was here first. we live an a completely human driven capitalistic society that has excelled only by advancing ourselves above other species. why should our comfort not be protected? why should the things we work hard to build be destroyed by badgers that "can't" be moved.

I hope tomorrow a thousand badgers make camp in your back garden and start destroying not only your garden but your house. then you can take some photos and ask echo to do an article about how happy you are that your paying mortgage for your own mini wildlife park and you wouldn't have a complaint in the world about it.
You actually seem more extreme that those you imply are extreme..
Never implied anyone was extreme... say something useful or do one!
I think what I posted was useful..you are without a doubt extreme when it comes to badgers...you seem to have taken their presence in this rather exaggerating ladies garden as a personal slight.
[quote][p][bold]stvr0s[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lastlaugh,,.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stvr0s[/bold] wrote: are you one of these badger experts with no friends i was referring to? you must be, because if you completely miss the point that human lives are being impacted by this and yet all of a sudden everyones got an opinion about an animal that is culled and killed everyday without the general population of this country battering an eyelid. my reference go these sources, was more than anything to highlight the ridiculousness in the nature of some of these comments, but seems, you didn't really get that. I could not care less if the badger was here first. we live an a completely human driven capitalistic society that has excelled only by advancing ourselves above other species. why should our comfort not be protected? why should the things we work hard to build be destroyed by badgers that "can't" be moved. I hope tomorrow a thousand badgers make camp in your back garden and start destroying not only your garden but your house. then you can take some photos and ask echo to do an article about how happy you are that your paying mortgage for your own mini wildlife park and you wouldn't have a complaint in the world about it.[/p][/quote]You actually seem more extreme that those you imply are extreme..[/p][/quote]Never implied anyone was extreme... say something useful or do one![/p][/quote]I think what I posted was useful..you are without a doubt extreme when it comes to badgers...you seem to have taken their presence in this rather exaggerating ladies garden as a personal slight. Lastlaugh,,.

1:00pm Sun 15 Dec 13

Lastlaugh,,. says...

profondo asbo wrote:
gas, gas, gas!
And you are certainly full of it sometimes.
[quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: gas, gas, gas![/p][/quote]And you are certainly full of it sometimes. Lastlaugh,,.

2:15pm Sun 15 Dec 13

profondo asbo says...

Lastlaugh,,. wrote:
profondo asbo wrote:
gas, gas, gas!
And you are certainly full of it sometimes.
sprouts for lunch...
[quote][p][bold]Lastlaugh,,.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: gas, gas, gas![/p][/quote]And you are certainly full of it sometimes.[/p][/quote]sprouts for lunch... profondo asbo

3:10pm Sun 15 Dec 13

Lastlaugh,,. says...

profondo asbo wrote:
Lastlaugh,,. wrote:
profondo asbo wrote:
gas, gas, gas!
And you are certainly full of it sometimes.
sprouts for lunch...
You really should stop having Gandy and Truthy for lunch.
[quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lastlaugh,,.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: gas, gas, gas![/p][/quote]And you are certainly full of it sometimes.[/p][/quote]sprouts for lunch...[/p][/quote]You really should stop having Gandy and Truthy for lunch. Lastlaugh,,.

4:16pm Sun 15 Dec 13

profondo asbo says...

Lastlaugh,,. wrote:
profondo asbo wrote:
Lastlaugh,,. wrote:
profondo asbo wrote:
gas, gas, gas!
And you are certainly full of it sometimes.
sprouts for lunch...
You really should stop having Gandy and Truthy for lunch.
truthy....cabinet bid, the gandage....cabinet offer
[quote][p][bold]Lastlaugh,,.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lastlaugh,,.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: gas, gas, gas![/p][/quote]And you are certainly full of it sometimes.[/p][/quote]sprouts for lunch...[/p][/quote]You really should stop having Gandy and Truthy for lunch.[/p][/quote]truthy....cabinet bid, the gandage....cabinet offer profondo asbo

10:42am Mon 16 Dec 13

Bernard Fatsack says...

Southend Andy wrote:
Just when you thought it was safe to go into the garden (insert jaws music here) Badger Returns!
seems a black and white case to me
[quote][p][bold]Southend Andy[/bold] wrote: Just when you thought it was safe to go into the garden (insert jaws music here) Badger Returns![/p][/quote]seems a black and white case to me Bernard Fatsack

11:04am Mon 16 Dec 13

MilesBond says...

One word: House foundations!!
One word: House foundations!! MilesBond

12:02pm Mon 16 Dec 13

Rochford Rob says...

Lastlaugh,,. wrote:
profondo asbo wrote: gas, gas, gas!
And you are certainly full of it sometimes.
Oh, the irony given you are so F.O.S.
[quote][p][bold]Lastlaugh,,.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: gas, gas, gas![/p][/quote]And you are certainly full of it sometimes.[/p][/quote]Oh, the irony given you are so F.O.S. Rochford Rob

6:56pm Mon 16 Dec 13

Lastlaugh,,. says...

Rochford Rob wrote:
Lastlaugh,,. wrote:
profondo asbo wrote: gas, gas, gas!
And you are certainly full of it sometimes.
Oh, the irony given you are so F.O.S.
Oh dear...here he is..the spittle is going to hit the screen again from the old racist Booby.

There is no irony because what you state isn't factual..is it old spittlegob.

Shame...poor man.
[quote][p][bold]Rochford Rob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lastlaugh,,.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: gas, gas, gas![/p][/quote]And you are certainly full of it sometimes.[/p][/quote]Oh, the irony given you are so F.O.S.[/p][/quote]Oh dear...here he is..the spittle is going to hit the screen again from the old racist Booby. There is no irony because what you state isn't factual..is it old spittlegob. Shame...poor man. Lastlaugh,,.

8:47pm Mon 16 Dec 13

Fred the Phoenix says...

Don't Rob, walk away, he's not worth it.
Don't Rob, walk away, he's not worth it. Fred the Phoenix

9:22pm Mon 16 Dec 13

profondo asbo says...

Fred the Phoenix wrote:
Don't Rob, walk away, he's not worth it.
oi leave it....
[quote][p][bold]Fred the Phoenix[/bold] wrote: Don't Rob, walk away, he's not worth it.[/p][/quote]oi leave it.... profondo asbo

10:39am Tue 17 Dec 13

CHRISTMAS CAROL says...

Rochford Rob wrote:
CHRISTMAS CAROL wrote:
The badgers were there first. I would love to have them in my garden
They were?

She's 38. How old are the badgers then?

In your garden as long as they didn't live, sh*t and dig there no doubt.
Yes would'nt mind even then
[quote][p][bold]Rochford Rob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CHRISTMAS CAROL[/bold] wrote: The badgers were there first. I would love to have them in my garden[/p][/quote]They were? She's 38. How old are the badgers then? In your garden as long as they didn't live, sh*t and dig there no doubt.[/p][/quote]Yes would'nt mind even then CHRISTMAS CAROL

12:37pm Tue 17 Dec 13

Alekhine says...

I reckon that garden was a pit before the badgers arrived. Just a minute, oversize badger that tidy up......you've got wombles!
I reckon that garden was a pit before the badgers arrived. Just a minute, oversize badger that tidy up......you've got wombles! Alekhine

9:45pm Tue 17 Dec 13

Lastlaugh,,. says...

Fred the Phoenix wrote:
Don't Rob, walk away, he's not worth it.
How could you possibly know?
[quote][p][bold]Fred the Phoenix[/bold] wrote: Don't Rob, walk away, he's not worth it.[/p][/quote]How could you possibly know? Lastlaugh,,.

10:50pm Tue 17 Dec 13

Fred the Phoenix says...

Everyone who reads this knows
Everyone who reads this knows Fred the Phoenix

11:57pm Tue 17 Dec 13

Lastlaugh,,. says...

Fred the Phoenix wrote:
Everyone who reads this knows
You have delusions you speak for "Everyone"

How long have you felt you are the voice of the Echo..
[quote][p][bold]Fred the Phoenix[/bold] wrote: Everyone who reads this knows[/p][/quote]You have delusions you speak for "Everyone" How long have you felt you are the voice of the Echo.. Lastlaugh,,.

5:00pm Wed 18 Dec 13

BlueEyes87 says...

Just because people care about animals and nature, it doesn't mean they are 'tree huggers'. So what if the badgers dig up a bit of your garden? They're just looking for food, after people have built all over their natural habitat. It's the same with foxes. The comment about them attacking her children is just ridiculous as everyone knows they are afraid of humans and would only attack if injured or trapped. These stories trying to make people dislike and fear wild animals are getting really boring now. The fact is, they aren't harming anyone, they're just simply trying to survive and that is the least we can let them do after we have (and continue to), destroy their natural home.
Just because people care about animals and nature, it doesn't mean they are 'tree huggers'. So what if the badgers dig up a bit of your garden? They're just looking for food, after people have built all over their natural habitat. It's the same with foxes. The comment about them attacking her children is just ridiculous as everyone knows they are afraid of humans and would only attack if injured or trapped. These stories trying to make people dislike and fear wild animals are getting really boring now. The fact is, they aren't harming anyone, they're just simply trying to survive and that is the least we can let them do after we have (and continue to), destroy their natural home. BlueEyes87

8:19pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Lastlaugh,,. says...

BlueEyes87 wrote:
Just because people care about animals and nature, it doesn't mean they are 'tree huggers'. So what if the badgers dig up a bit of your garden? They're just looking for food, after people have built all over their natural habitat. It's the same with foxes. The comment about them attacking her children is just ridiculous as everyone knows they are afraid of humans and would only attack if injured or trapped. These stories trying to make people dislike and fear wild animals are getting really boring now. The fact is, they aren't harming anyone, they're just simply trying to survive and that is the least we can let them do after we have (and continue to), destroy their natural home.
We are all animals after all..

And Fred in case it escaped your notice, I have been on the side of the badgers and their supporters in this and the ex- Booby has been against...
[quote][p][bold]BlueEyes87[/bold] wrote: Just because people care about animals and nature, it doesn't mean they are 'tree huggers'. So what if the badgers dig up a bit of your garden? They're just looking for food, after people have built all over their natural habitat. It's the same with foxes. The comment about them attacking her children is just ridiculous as everyone knows they are afraid of humans and would only attack if injured or trapped. These stories trying to make people dislike and fear wild animals are getting really boring now. The fact is, they aren't harming anyone, they're just simply trying to survive and that is the least we can let them do after we have (and continue to), destroy their natural home.[/p][/quote]We are all animals after all.. And Fred in case it escaped your notice, I have been on the side of the badgers and their supporters in this and the ex- Booby has been against... Lastlaugh,,.

8:58am Thu 19 Dec 13

Rochford Rob says...

Lastlaugh,,. wrote:
Fred the Phoenix wrote:
Everyone who reads this knows
You have delusions you speak for "Everyone"

How long have you felt you are the voice of the Echo..
You think he's hearing voices? What's the matter, don't like the competition?

You've had more down arrows than the French at Azincourt.

Yes, I can see where your empathy lies, unwanted animal living in someone else's land.

And badgers.
[quote][p][bold]Lastlaugh,,.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fred the Phoenix[/bold] wrote: Everyone who reads this knows[/p][/quote]You have delusions you speak for "Everyone" How long have you felt you are the voice of the Echo..[/p][/quote]You think he's hearing voices? What's the matter, don't like the competition? You've had more down arrows than the French at Azincourt. Yes, I can see where your empathy lies, unwanted animal living in someone else's land. And badgers. Rochford Rob

3:35pm Thu 19 Dec 13

Lastlaugh,,. says...

Rochford Rob wrote:
Lastlaugh,,. wrote:
Fred the Phoenix wrote:
Everyone who reads this knows
You have delusions you speak for "Everyone"

How long have you felt you are the voice of the Echo..
You think he's hearing voices? What's the matter, don't like the competition?

You've had more down arrows than the French at Azincourt.

Yes, I can see where your empathy lies, unwanted animal living in someone else's land.

And badgers.
Oh so its all about Up and down votes..

The best that can do is show what sort of people read and contribute to the comments section..down votes for my posts are an indication of the people and perhaps their ideology!

Azincourt? whoo hoo..get you, posting with a french pronunciation...oh the pretension is sublime! perhaps you mean 'Agincourt'

I can just see you on the beat, twirling your trunchion making crude innuendo to the ladies (as you did on this forum) and then tipping your hat saying "good moaning"

We are all animals ex crude booby...some even post in an animalistic way..although they try to pretend they dont or at the least accept it as crude dodgy innuendo..did you ever apologize to the young lady you aimed it at?

Oh btw, Ole ex-booby...you own nothing...no land, no house, nothing in reality.. the thing is you are so dumbed down you think you do...the thickest Travellers is sharper than you when it comes to that...
[quote][p][bold]Rochford Rob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lastlaugh,,.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fred the Phoenix[/bold] wrote: Everyone who reads this knows[/p][/quote]You have delusions you speak for "Everyone" How long have you felt you are the voice of the Echo..[/p][/quote]You think he's hearing voices? What's the matter, don't like the competition? You've had more down arrows than the French at Azincourt. Yes, I can see where your empathy lies, unwanted animal living in someone else's land. And badgers.[/p][/quote]Oh so its all about Up and down votes.. The best that can do is show what sort of people read and contribute to the comments section..down votes for my posts are an indication of the people and perhaps their ideology! Azincourt? whoo hoo..get you, posting with a french pronunciation...oh the pretension is sublime! perhaps you mean 'Agincourt' I can just see you on the beat, twirling your trunchion making crude innuendo to the ladies (as you did on this forum) and then tipping your hat saying "good moaning" We are all animals ex crude booby...some even post in an animalistic way..although they try to pretend they dont or at the least accept it as crude dodgy innuendo..did you ever apologize to the young lady you aimed it at? Oh btw, Ole ex-booby...you own nothing...no land, no house, nothing in reality.. the thing is you are so dumbed down you think you do...the thickest Travellers is sharper than you when it comes to that... Lastlaugh,,.

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