Dog attacked by Staffy

A MAN in his seventies watched his small dog ravaged by a Staffordshire bull terrier while out on a walk.

The man was walking his papillon dog on a lead through fields between The Fryth and Craylands when the Staffy, which wasn’t on a lead, ran up and started attacking the dog.

It bit the dog’s neck and back leg and caused severe injuries.

The owner of the Staffordshire then ran over and pulled the dog away before running off. He did not say anything.

The papillon, which are usually about 20cm to 30cm tall and weigh 4kg, had to be taken to a vet for treatment to its injuries.

The attack happened at about 11am on Friday.

Police are appealing for witnesses to the attack to help track down the dog owner.

The Staffordshire bull terrier is described as being off-white in colour and of full size. It had brown-tipped ears and darker patches on its sides.

The dog owner is described as white, aged 25, 5ft 8 tall and slim with short dark hair. He was wearing red tracksuit bottoms and a green long sleeve t-shirt.

Anyone with information should call Pc Marek Jaworski, or his colleagues at Basildon police station, on 101.

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5:10pm Tue 10 Dec 13

John Bull 40 says...

How many more attacks before they change the law to make all dogs wear
a muzzle?
How many more attacks before they change the law to make all dogs wear a muzzle? John Bull 40

5:15pm Tue 10 Dec 13

DutchCyclist says...

Wrong type of dog owned by the wrong type of person will always regrettably end with problems. Staffys should only be with responsible owners or breeders and not with people who keep them only for the 'image', Responsible owners and such would just not run off from the situation. Hope the papillon makes a speedy recovery.
Wrong type of dog owned by the wrong type of person will always regrettably end with problems. Staffys should only be with responsible owners or breeders and not with people who keep them only for the 'image', Responsible owners and such would just not run off from the situation. Hope the papillon makes a speedy recovery. DutchCyclist

5:19pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Southend Andy says...

All dogs should be muzzled in public no matter of breed.
All dogs should be muzzled in public no matter of breed. Southend Andy

5:27pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Lucie2013 says...

DutchCyclist wrote:
Wrong type of dog owned by the wrong type of person will always regrettably end with problems. Staffys should only be with responsible owners or breeders and not with people who keep them only for the 'image', Responsible owners and such would just not run off from the situation. Hope the papillon makes a speedy recovery.
Agreed 100%

The dogs always get the blame whereas the real culprits are the owners who have these dogs for a "show piece".

I have an American Bulldog and he wouldn't hurt another dog or another person as he has been trained and looked after and not baited and toyed with by a "chav" who thinks a dog of this stature is good for his image.

Maybe they should start destroying the owners rather than the dogs!?
[quote][p][bold]DutchCyclist[/bold] wrote: Wrong type of dog owned by the wrong type of person will always regrettably end with problems. Staffys should only be with responsible owners or breeders and not with people who keep them only for the 'image', Responsible owners and such would just not run off from the situation. Hope the papillon makes a speedy recovery.[/p][/quote]Agreed 100% The dogs always get the blame whereas the real culprits are the owners who have these dogs for a "show piece". I have an American Bulldog and he wouldn't hurt another dog or another person as he has been trained and looked after and not baited and toyed with by a "chav" who thinks a dog of this stature is good for his image. Maybe they should start destroying the owners rather than the dogs!? Lucie2013

5:35pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Howard Cháse says...

They musthave missed out the 'smoking a spliff and reeking of booze and skunk' from the dscription of the idiot owner of the staff....
They musthave missed out the 'smoking a spliff and reeking of booze and skunk' from the dscription of the idiot owner of the staff.... Howard Cháse

6:13pm Tue 10 Dec 13

John T Pharro says...

Southend Andy wrote:
All dogs should be muzzled in public no matter of breed.
I agree and fail to understand why many dog owners are so anti muzzles. Obviously dogs like bulldogs would be impossible to muzzle, but frankly with the obvious breathing difficulties they have is just plain cruel, many other breeds were breed originally for hunting or fighting purposes could.
Can guarantee that will open the flood gates to the "not the dog, but the owner" brigade who some seem to think a dog bred for just that will claim they were really only bred as docile family pets. Having seen the all too frequent reports of attacks it seems those believing that probably believe the earth is flat.
[quote][p][bold]Southend Andy[/bold] wrote: All dogs should be muzzled in public no matter of breed.[/p][/quote]I agree and fail to understand why many dog owners are so anti muzzles. Obviously dogs like bulldogs would be impossible to muzzle, but frankly with the obvious breathing difficulties they have is just plain cruel, many other breeds were breed originally for hunting or fighting purposes could. Can guarantee that will open the flood gates to the "not the dog, but the owner" brigade who some seem to think a dog bred for just that will claim they were really only bred as docile family pets. Having seen the all too frequent reports of attacks it seems those believing that probably believe the earth is flat. John T Pharro

6:32pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Test Tickle says...

Any dog regardless of size or breed or however well it has been raised and trained is capable of attacking another dog, child or adult given the wrong circumstances, all too often we hear “My dog would not bite anyone” the fact is you just never know.

It has even been know for Police dogs to attack out of character, and they are probably the most well trained dogs you will come across!

As stated in posts above the only way to ensure dog attacks don’t happen is to muzzle all dogs regardless of size/breed etc.

I also get fed up with seeing people letting their dogs run loose up and down the street barking at people and crapping everywhere, we are not all dog lovers and some people are even scared of them.
Any dog regardless of size or breed or however well it has been raised and trained is capable of attacking another dog, child or adult given the wrong circumstances, all too often we hear “My dog would not bite anyone” the fact is you just never know. It has even been know for Police dogs to attack out of character, and they are probably the most well trained dogs you will come across! As stated in posts above the only way to ensure dog attacks don’t happen is to muzzle all dogs regardless of size/breed etc. I also get fed up with seeing people letting their dogs run loose up and down the street barking at people and crapping everywhere, we are not all dog lovers and some people are even scared of them. Test Tickle

6:36pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Sensible Man says...

It always seems to be these horrible Staffordshire Devil Dogs involved in these incidents. They should be banned under the dangerous dogs act.

And what sort of weird person takes these devil dogs out without a lead? Truly unbelievable. And to run away - what a total piece of c rap.
It always seems to be these horrible Staffordshire Devil Dogs involved in these incidents. They should be banned under the dangerous dogs act. And what sort of weird person takes these devil dogs out without a lead? Truly unbelievable. And to run away - what a total piece of c rap. Sensible Man

7:36pm Tue 10 Dec 13

CallMeKiz says...

It has nothing to do with the breed of dog, and EVERYTHING to do with the owner of the dog.

It doesnt matter if its a Staffie or a Great Dane attacking. The person that owned the dog is 100% to blame for multiple reasons. Firstly, because the dog was off lead. Second, because he will have known it posed a risk to other dogs, and did nothing to stop it happening until it was too late.

Putting a muzzle on a dog doesn't solve anything. Dogs still try and attack if they want too, and the muzzle can often make the dog more lightly to attack, as it is stressed out by having its face covered.

Dogs can also still attack when wearing a muzzle. They come off, break etc. It simply isn't feasible to muzzle EVERY SINGLE DOG in the UK because owners think its ok to have them off lead. Owners would also think it gives them an excuse not to train the dog. "My dog wears a muzzle, who cares if it tries attacking something?"

You know why you dont hear *Great Dane attacks dog* ? Because the media like to show that staffies are all evil (They are not, they are nicknamed *Nanny dogs* for a reason...) and *Big ball of fluff attacks dog* doesn't have the same grab.
It has nothing to do with the breed of dog, and EVERYTHING to do with the owner of the dog. It doesnt matter if its a Staffie or a Great Dane attacking. The person that owned the dog is 100% to blame for multiple reasons. Firstly, because the dog was off lead. Second, because he will have known it posed a risk to other dogs, and did nothing to stop it happening until it was too late. Putting a muzzle on a dog doesn't solve anything. Dogs still try and attack if they want too, and the muzzle can often make the dog more lightly to attack, as it is stressed out by having its face covered. Dogs can also still attack when wearing a muzzle. They come off, break etc. It simply isn't feasible to muzzle EVERY SINGLE DOG in the UK because owners think its ok to have them off lead. Owners would also think it gives them an excuse not to train the dog. "My dog wears a muzzle, who cares if it tries attacking something?" You know why you dont hear *Great Dane attacks dog* ? Because the media like to show that staffies are all evil (They are not, they are nicknamed *Nanny dogs* for a reason...) and *Big ball of fluff attacks dog* doesn't have the same grab. CallMeKiz

8:53pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Vange girl says...

Can I just say , not all dogs are like this I own a 15mth old staffy x boxer I have a five yr old son who jumps all over her and she just lays there , I blame the dog owner on the way they bring there dogs up I also have a cat and they get on like a house on fire :)
Can I just say , not all dogs are like this I own a 15mth old staffy x boxer I have a five yr old son who jumps all over her and she just lays there , I blame the dog owner on the way they bring there dogs up I also have a cat and they get on like a house on fire :) Vange girl

9:22pm Tue 10 Dec 13

DogsMessInLeigh says...

Yeah Bruv Tracky bottoms and a staff innit..

when will the Law be changed to have Muzzles on dogs AND kept on leads inc in PUBLIC PARKS..! and when will fines be given out for dog fouling, dogs off leads in streets etc.
Yeah Bruv Tracky bottoms and a staff innit.. when will the Law be changed to have Muzzles on dogs AND kept on leads inc in PUBLIC PARKS..! and when will fines be given out for dog fouling, dogs off leads in streets etc. DogsMessInLeigh

9:25pm Tue 10 Dec 13

DogsMessInLeigh says...

Vange girl wrote:
Can I just say , not all dogs are like this I own a 15mth old staffy x boxer I have a five yr old son who jumps all over her and she just lays there , I blame the dog owner on the way they bring there dogs up I also have a cat and they get on like a house on fire :)
One day, you never know.
[quote][p][bold]Vange girl[/bold] wrote: Can I just say , not all dogs are like this I own a 15mth old staffy x boxer I have a five yr old son who jumps all over her and she just lays there , I blame the dog owner on the way they bring there dogs up I also have a cat and they get on like a house on fire :)[/p][/quote]One day, you never know. DogsMessInLeigh

9:26pm Tue 10 Dec 13

CallMeKiz says...

DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
Yeah Bruv Tracky bottoms and a staff innit..

when will the Law be changed to have Muzzles on dogs AND kept on leads inc in PUBLIC PARKS..! and when will fines be given out for dog fouling, dogs off leads in streets etc.
Most parks operate a leash law already. And dog fouling and not collecting it IS an offence.
[quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: Yeah Bruv Tracky bottoms and a staff innit.. when will the Law be changed to have Muzzles on dogs AND kept on leads inc in PUBLIC PARKS..! and when will fines be given out for dog fouling, dogs off leads in streets etc.[/p][/quote]Most parks operate a leash law already. And dog fouling and not collecting it IS an offence. CallMeKiz

9:43pm Tue 10 Dec 13

My Britain says...

People have said for ages that all dogs should be muzzled, but it seems spitting on the floor is worse then dog attacks, our laws are to weak!!
People have said for ages that all dogs should be muzzled, but it seems spitting on the floor is worse then dog attacks, our laws are to weak!! My Britain

9:59pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Vange girl says...

Not one day its nevet shes a dope on a rope - like I said I blame the owner's
Not one day its nevet shes a dope on a rope - like I said I blame the owner's Vange girl

10:01pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Vange girl says...

- like I said I blame the owner's
- like I said I blame the owner's Vange girl

10:22pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Helenw says...

Sensible Man wrote:
It always seems to be these horrible Staffordshire Devil Dogs involved in these incidents. They should be banned under the dangerous dogs act.

And what sort of weird person takes these devil dogs out without a lead? Truly unbelievable. And to run away - what a total piece of c rap.
I am a 44 year old very girly lady and I have one of those "Staffordshire Devil dogs", am I weird???? I walk my staffie everyday, 3 times a day without a lead because I know I can trust my dog and can control her. I took the time to take her to dog training and have spent time and energy making sure she is a good dog. One word or click of my fingers and she will stop and be back at my side and she is only allowed to say"hello" to another dog if I let her. ANY dog can be dangerous. my friend has a chihauhua and it barks and yaps at anyone and anything and their postman refuses to deliver their post as it bit him! Don't demonise these dogs and tar them with the same brush.
[quote][p][bold]Sensible Man[/bold] wrote: It always seems to be these horrible Staffordshire Devil Dogs involved in these incidents. They should be banned under the dangerous dogs act. And what sort of weird person takes these devil dogs out without a lead? Truly unbelievable. And to run away - what a total piece of c rap.[/p][/quote]I am a 44 year old very girly lady and I have one of those "Staffordshire Devil dogs", am I weird???? I walk my staffie everyday, 3 times a day without a lead because I know I can trust my dog and can control her. I took the time to take her to dog training and have spent time and energy making sure she is a good dog. One word or click of my fingers and she will stop and be back at my side and she is only allowed to say"hello" to another dog if I let her. ANY dog can be dangerous. my friend has a chihauhua and it barks and yaps at anyone and anything and their postman refuses to deliver their post as it bit him! Don't demonise these dogs and tar them with the same brush. Helenw

10:35pm Tue 10 Dec 13

DogsMessInLeigh says...

CallMeKiz wrote:
DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
Yeah Bruv Tracky bottoms and a staff innit..

when will the Law be changed to have Muzzles on dogs AND kept on leads inc in PUBLIC PARKS..! and when will fines be given out for dog fouling, dogs off leads in streets etc.
Most parks operate a leash law already. And dog fouling and not collecting it IS an offence.
yes it is i know that..BUT no one ever gets a fine for it, thats what i am saying 1000's in money for metal signs but no fines coming in, go to any park and theres dogs roaming un leashed....and no fines given out.
[quote][p][bold]CallMeKiz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: Yeah Bruv Tracky bottoms and a staff innit.. when will the Law be changed to have Muzzles on dogs AND kept on leads inc in PUBLIC PARKS..! and when will fines be given out for dog fouling, dogs off leads in streets etc.[/p][/quote]Most parks operate a leash law already. And dog fouling and not collecting it IS an offence.[/p][/quote]yes it is i know that..BUT no one ever gets a fine for it, thats what i am saying 1000's in money for metal signs but no fines coming in, go to any park and theres dogs roaming un leashed....and no fines given out. DogsMessInLeigh

10:39pm Tue 10 Dec 13

DogsMessInLeigh says...

Helenw wrote:
Sensible Man wrote:
It always seems to be these horrible Staffordshire Devil Dogs involved in these incidents. They should be banned under the dangerous dogs act.

And what sort of weird person takes these devil dogs out without a lead? Truly unbelievable. And to run away - what a total piece of c rap.
I am a 44 year old very girly lady and I have one of those "Staffordshire Devil dogs", am I weird???? I walk my staffie everyday, 3 times a day without a lead because I know I can trust my dog and can control her. I took the time to take her to dog training and have spent time and energy making sure she is a good dog. One word or click of my fingers and she will stop and be back at my side and she is only allowed to say"hello" to another dog if I let her. ANY dog can be dangerous. my friend has a chihauhua and it barks and yaps at anyone and anything and their postman refuses to deliver their post as it bit him! Don't demonise these dogs and tar them with the same brush.
"" I walk my staffie everyday, 3 times a day without a lead""

then you are breaking a law....dogs should be on a lead on roads/streets under council bylaws.(look for the signs)
please forward your name and address to the dog warden/enforcement officer so they can fine you.
Many Thanks.
[quote][p][bold]Helenw[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sensible Man[/bold] wrote: It always seems to be these horrible Staffordshire Devil Dogs involved in these incidents. They should be banned under the dangerous dogs act. And what sort of weird person takes these devil dogs out without a lead? Truly unbelievable. And to run away - what a total piece of c rap.[/p][/quote]I am a 44 year old very girly lady and I have one of those "Staffordshire Devil dogs", am I weird???? I walk my staffie everyday, 3 times a day without a lead because I know I can trust my dog and can control her. I took the time to take her to dog training and have spent time and energy making sure she is a good dog. One word or click of my fingers and she will stop and be back at my side and she is only allowed to say"hello" to another dog if I let her. ANY dog can be dangerous. my friend has a chihauhua and it barks and yaps at anyone and anything and their postman refuses to deliver their post as it bit him! Don't demonise these dogs and tar them with the same brush.[/p][/quote]"" I walk my staffie everyday, 3 times a day without a lead"" then you are breaking a law....dogs should be on a lead on roads/streets under council bylaws.(look for the signs) please forward your name and address to the dog warden/enforcement officer so they can fine you. Many Thanks. DogsMessInLeigh

10:48pm Tue 10 Dec 13

CallMeKiz says...

DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
CallMeKiz wrote:
DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
Yeah Bruv Tracky bottoms and a staff innit..

when will the Law be changed to have Muzzles on dogs AND kept on leads inc in PUBLIC PARKS..! and when will fines be given out for dog fouling, dogs off leads in streets etc.
Most parks operate a leash law already. And dog fouling and not collecting it IS an offence.
yes it is i know that..BUT no one ever gets a fine for it, thats what i am saying 1000's in money for metal signs but no fines coming in, go to any park and theres dogs roaming un leashed....and no fines given out.
And how will Muzzling and keeping all dogs on leads stop them toileting on the paths? And if there is no one policing the parks for those laws, who is going to police it to make sure all dogs wore muzzles?
[quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CallMeKiz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: Yeah Bruv Tracky bottoms and a staff innit.. when will the Law be changed to have Muzzles on dogs AND kept on leads inc in PUBLIC PARKS..! and when will fines be given out for dog fouling, dogs off leads in streets etc.[/p][/quote]Most parks operate a leash law already. And dog fouling and not collecting it IS an offence.[/p][/quote]yes it is i know that..BUT no one ever gets a fine for it, thats what i am saying 1000's in money for metal signs but no fines coming in, go to any park and theres dogs roaming un leashed....and no fines given out.[/p][/quote]And how will Muzzling and keeping all dogs on leads stop them toileting on the paths? And if there is no one policing the parks for those laws, who is going to police it to make sure all dogs wore muzzles? CallMeKiz

10:54pm Tue 10 Dec 13

DogsMessInLeigh says...

CallMeKiz wrote:
DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
CallMeKiz wrote:
DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
Yeah Bruv Tracky bottoms and a staff innit..

when will the Law be changed to have Muzzles on dogs AND kept on leads inc in PUBLIC PARKS..! and when will fines be given out for dog fouling, dogs off leads in streets etc.
Most parks operate a leash law already. And dog fouling and not collecting it IS an offence.
yes it is i know that..BUT no one ever gets a fine for it, thats what i am saying 1000's in money for metal signs but no fines coming in, go to any park and theres dogs roaming un leashed....and no fines given out.
And how will Muzzling and keeping all dogs on leads stop them toileting on the paths? And if there is no one policing the parks for those laws, who is going to police it to make sure all dogs wore muzzles?
Fining owners will hopefully stop those owners allowing to happen again, if dogs where not muzzled when they should it would be a police matter and on the spot fines, easy to spot a dog without a muzzle you just gotta look...it would be a criminal law, off leads would be a enforcement officer matter(along with the turd conundrum), a team would be set up and crack down on it, stamp out turds.
[quote][p][bold]CallMeKiz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CallMeKiz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: Yeah Bruv Tracky bottoms and a staff innit.. when will the Law be changed to have Muzzles on dogs AND kept on leads inc in PUBLIC PARKS..! and when will fines be given out for dog fouling, dogs off leads in streets etc.[/p][/quote]Most parks operate a leash law already. And dog fouling and not collecting it IS an offence.[/p][/quote]yes it is i know that..BUT no one ever gets a fine for it, thats what i am saying 1000's in money for metal signs but no fines coming in, go to any park and theres dogs roaming un leashed....and no fines given out.[/p][/quote]And how will Muzzling and keeping all dogs on leads stop them toileting on the paths? And if there is no one policing the parks for those laws, who is going to police it to make sure all dogs wore muzzles?[/p][/quote]Fining owners will hopefully stop those owners allowing to happen again, if dogs where not muzzled when they should it would be a police matter and on the spot fines, easy to spot a dog without a muzzle you just gotta look...it would be a criminal law, off leads would be a enforcement officer matter(along with the turd conundrum), a team would be set up and crack down on it, stamp out turds. DogsMessInLeigh

11:10pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Caz2210 says...

Helenw wrote:
Sensible Man wrote:
It always seems to be these horrible Staffordshire Devil Dogs involved in these incidents. They should be banned under the dangerous dogs act.

And what sort of weird person takes these devil dogs out without a lead? Truly unbelievable. And to run away - what a total piece of c rap.
I am a 44 year old very girly lady and I have one of those "Staffordshire Devil dogs", am I weird???? I walk my staffie everyday, 3 times a day without a lead because I know I can trust my dog and can control her. I took the time to take her to dog training and have spent time and energy making sure she is a good dog. One word or click of my fingers and she will stop and be back at my side and she is only allowed to say"hello" to another dog if I let her. ANY dog can be dangerous. my friend has a chihauhua and it barks and yaps at anyone and anything and their postman refuses to deliver their post as it bit him! Don't demonise these dogs and tar them with the same brush.
I hope this poor little dog makes a speedy recovery and the owner of the dog that attacked is caught ASAP and most importantly made an example of.

However, I would just like to say that I am a staffy owner. I am full time employed, I am not an alcoholic nor a drug addict, I have a good job, and I do not spend my spare time loitering outside asdas in a pink track suit with a bottle of lambrini. Sorry to disappoint those that that think ALL staffys owners are scum.
[quote][p][bold]Helenw[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sensible Man[/bold] wrote: It always seems to be these horrible Staffordshire Devil Dogs involved in these incidents. They should be banned under the dangerous dogs act. And what sort of weird person takes these devil dogs out without a lead? Truly unbelievable. And to run away - what a total piece of c rap.[/p][/quote]I am a 44 year old very girly lady and I have one of those "Staffordshire Devil dogs", am I weird???? I walk my staffie everyday, 3 times a day without a lead because I know I can trust my dog and can control her. I took the time to take her to dog training and have spent time and energy making sure she is a good dog. One word or click of my fingers and she will stop and be back at my side and she is only allowed to say"hello" to another dog if I let her. ANY dog can be dangerous. my friend has a chihauhua and it barks and yaps at anyone and anything and their postman refuses to deliver their post as it bit him! Don't demonise these dogs and tar them with the same brush.[/p][/quote]I hope this poor little dog makes a speedy recovery and the owner of the dog that attacked is caught ASAP and most importantly made an example of. However, I would just like to say that I am a staffy owner. I am full time employed, I am not an alcoholic nor a drug addict, I have a good job, and I do not spend my spare time loitering outside asdas in a pink track suit with a bottle of lambrini. Sorry to disappoint those that that think ALL staffys owners are scum. Caz2210

3:52am Wed 11 Dec 13

Illinois10 says...

Muzzling dogs may stop others getting bitten....but will possibly instill fear into the public seeing a dog screeching, Barking it's head off, straining on the lead etc. I own 2 big dogs, a lot of people are scared because of the breed but then see them chasing leaves and catching grass. If they bark once st a small dog I get told to "control my aggressive dogs" but if their little fluff ball goes berserk at mine, "it's funny and cute".
As people have mentioned earlier, its the wrong breed with the wrong owners capability and knowledge of them.

Wish a speedy recovery to the pap and hope the owner still has the confidence to go out with the dog.
Muzzling dogs may stop others getting bitten....but will possibly instill fear into the public seeing a dog screeching, Barking it's head off, straining on the lead etc. I own 2 big dogs, a lot of people are scared because of the breed but then see them chasing leaves and catching grass. If they bark once st a small dog I get told to "control my aggressive dogs" but if their little fluff ball goes berserk at mine, "it's funny and cute". As people have mentioned earlier, its the wrong breed with the wrong owners capability and knowledge of them. Wish a speedy recovery to the pap and hope the owner still has the confidence to go out with the dog. Illinois10

7:00am Wed 11 Dec 13

Kursaal76 says...

Lets not forget its not only staffies that bite other dogs. I had my staffie bite by a labrador! And guess what? He didnt even fight back he just layed there. Thats because my dog got brought up right. Its the stupid little yappy dogs that cause the problem by barking at every dog they see.
Lets not forget its not only staffies that bite other dogs. I had my staffie bite by a labrador! And guess what? He didnt even fight back he just layed there. Thats because my dog got brought up right. Its the stupid little yappy dogs that cause the problem by barking at every dog they see. Kursaal76

7:05am Wed 11 Dec 13

Kursaal76 says...

Helenw wrote:
Sensible Man wrote:
It always seems to be these horrible Staffordshire Devil Dogs involved in these incidents. They should be banned under the dangerous dogs act.

And what sort of weird person takes these devil dogs out without a lead? Truly unbelievable. And to run away - what a total piece of c rap.
I am a 44 year old very girly lady and I have one of those "Staffordshire Devil dogs", am I weird???? I walk my staffie everyday, 3 times a day without a lead because I know I can trust my dog and can control her. I took the time to take her to dog training and have spent time and energy making sure she is a good dog. One word or click of my fingers and she will stop and be back at my side and she is only allowed to say"hello" to another dog if I let her. ANY dog can be dangerous. my friend has a chihauhua and it barks and yaps at anyone and anything and their postman refuses to deliver their post as it bit him! Don't demonise these dogs and tar them with the same brush.
Why is it so hard to keep your dog on a lead? You are one of the reasons staffie owners gets a bad name. Put it on a lead and stop being stupid.
[quote][p][bold]Helenw[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sensible Man[/bold] wrote: It always seems to be these horrible Staffordshire Devil Dogs involved in these incidents. They should be banned under the dangerous dogs act. And what sort of weird person takes these devil dogs out without a lead? Truly unbelievable. And to run away - what a total piece of c rap.[/p][/quote]I am a 44 year old very girly lady and I have one of those "Staffordshire Devil dogs", am I weird???? I walk my staffie everyday, 3 times a day without a lead because I know I can trust my dog and can control her. I took the time to take her to dog training and have spent time and energy making sure she is a good dog. One word or click of my fingers and she will stop and be back at my side and she is only allowed to say"hello" to another dog if I let her. ANY dog can be dangerous. my friend has a chihauhua and it barks and yaps at anyone and anything and their postman refuses to deliver their post as it bit him! Don't demonise these dogs and tar them with the same brush.[/p][/quote]Why is it so hard to keep your dog on a lead? You are one of the reasons staffie owners gets a bad name. Put it on a lead and stop being stupid. Kursaal76

7:41am Wed 11 Dec 13

Southend Andy says...

Bring back the dog license, the money raised from that could pay for a dog warden & a dogs only park, where dog owners are allowed to let there dog run free & are responsible for clearing up after them.
Bring back the dog license, the money raised from that could pay for a dog warden & a dogs only park, where dog owners are allowed to let there dog run free & are responsible for clearing up after them. Southend Andy

9:23am Wed 11 Dec 13

pembury53 says...

"It wouldn't hurt a fly mate, and it's great with the kids, innit"
"It wouldn't hurt a fly mate, and it's great with the kids, innit" pembury53

9:32am Wed 11 Dec 13

Helenw says...

DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
Helenw wrote:
Sensible Man wrote:
It always seems to be these horrible Staffordshire Devil Dogs involved in these incidents. They should be banned under the dangerous dogs act.

And what sort of weird person takes these devil dogs out without a lead? Truly unbelievable. And to run away - what a total piece of c rap.
I am a 44 year old very girly lady and I have one of those "Staffordshire Devil dogs", am I weird???? I walk my staffie everyday, 3 times a day without a lead because I know I can trust my dog and can control her. I took the time to take her to dog training and have spent time and energy making sure she is a good dog. One word or click of my fingers and she will stop and be back at my side and she is only allowed to say"hello" to another dog if I let her. ANY dog can be dangerous. my friend has a chihauhua and it barks and yaps at anyone and anything and their postman refuses to deliver their post as it bit him! Don't demonise these dogs and tar them with the same brush.
"" I walk my staffie everyday, 3 times a day without a lead""

then you are breaking a law....dogs should be on a lead on roads/streets under council bylaws.(look for the signs)
please forward your name and address to the dog warden/enforcement officer so they can fine you.
Many Thanks.
lol, how small minded of you. I have walked her when police cars have gone past, and the other day two community police were walking round my road and they didnt say anything as she was as well behaved as usual. At least I walk my dog. So many of these scum dont walk their dogs or get them used to other dogs whereas I did right from when she was 9 weeks old as I knew what reputation these poor dogs have. I will continue to walk my dog without a lead (I do actually take one with me) as unlike the young yobs and scumbags who usually have them I CAN control my dog thank you :))
[quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Helenw[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sensible Man[/bold] wrote: It always seems to be these horrible Staffordshire Devil Dogs involved in these incidents. They should be banned under the dangerous dogs act. And what sort of weird person takes these devil dogs out without a lead? Truly unbelievable. And to run away - what a total piece of c rap.[/p][/quote]I am a 44 year old very girly lady and I have one of those "Staffordshire Devil dogs", am I weird???? I walk my staffie everyday, 3 times a day without a lead because I know I can trust my dog and can control her. I took the time to take her to dog training and have spent time and energy making sure she is a good dog. One word or click of my fingers and she will stop and be back at my side and she is only allowed to say"hello" to another dog if I let her. ANY dog can be dangerous. my friend has a chihauhua and it barks and yaps at anyone and anything and their postman refuses to deliver their post as it bit him! Don't demonise these dogs and tar them with the same brush.[/p][/quote]"" I walk my staffie everyday, 3 times a day without a lead"" then you are breaking a law....dogs should be on a lead on roads/streets under council bylaws.(look for the signs) please forward your name and address to the dog warden/enforcement officer so they can fine you. Many Thanks.[/p][/quote]lol, how small minded of you. I have walked her when police cars have gone past, and the other day two community police were walking round my road and they didnt say anything as she was as well behaved as usual. At least I walk my dog. So many of these scum dont walk their dogs or get them used to other dogs whereas I did right from when she was 9 weeks old as I knew what reputation these poor dogs have. I will continue to walk my dog without a lead (I do actually take one with me) as unlike the young yobs and scumbags who usually have them I CAN control my dog thank you :)) Helenw

9:36am Wed 11 Dec 13

Helenw says...

Caz2210 wrote:
Helenw wrote:
Sensible Man wrote:
It always seems to be these horrible Staffordshire Devil Dogs involved in these incidents. They should be banned under the dangerous dogs act.

And what sort of weird person takes these devil dogs out without a lead? Truly unbelievable. And to run away - what a total piece of c rap.
I am a 44 year old very girly lady and I have one of those "Staffordshire Devil dogs", am I weird???? I walk my staffie everyday, 3 times a day without a lead because I know I can trust my dog and can control her. I took the time to take her to dog training and have spent time and energy making sure she is a good dog. One word or click of my fingers and she will stop and be back at my side and she is only allowed to say"hello" to another dog if I let her. ANY dog can be dangerous. my friend has a chihauhua and it barks and yaps at anyone and anything and their postman refuses to deliver their post as it bit him! Don't demonise these dogs and tar them with the same brush.
I hope this poor little dog makes a speedy recovery and the owner of the dog that attacked is caught ASAP and most importantly made an example of.

However, I would just like to say that I am a staffy owner. I am full time employed, I am not an alcoholic nor a drug addict, I have a good job, and I do not spend my spare time loitering outside asdas in a pink track suit with a bottle of lambrini. Sorry to disappoint those that that think ALL staffys owners are scum.
Caz2210, glad I am not the only one who is the same as you, all the small minded people seem to think that all staffie owners are unemployed alcholics with major dug problems, have disgusting houses, dont walk their dogs and let them bark all the time and poo everywhere. Well I am definately NOT in that category.
[quote][p][bold]Caz2210[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Helenw[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sensible Man[/bold] wrote: It always seems to be these horrible Staffordshire Devil Dogs involved in these incidents. They should be banned under the dangerous dogs act. And what sort of weird person takes these devil dogs out without a lead? Truly unbelievable. And to run away - what a total piece of c rap.[/p][/quote]I am a 44 year old very girly lady and I have one of those "Staffordshire Devil dogs", am I weird???? I walk my staffie everyday, 3 times a day without a lead because I know I can trust my dog and can control her. I took the time to take her to dog training and have spent time and energy making sure she is a good dog. One word or click of my fingers and she will stop and be back at my side and she is only allowed to say"hello" to another dog if I let her. ANY dog can be dangerous. my friend has a chihauhua and it barks and yaps at anyone and anything and their postman refuses to deliver their post as it bit him! Don't demonise these dogs and tar them with the same brush.[/p][/quote]I hope this poor little dog makes a speedy recovery and the owner of the dog that attacked is caught ASAP and most importantly made an example of. However, I would just like to say that I am a staffy owner. I am full time employed, I am not an alcoholic nor a drug addict, I have a good job, and I do not spend my spare time loitering outside asdas in a pink track suit with a bottle of lambrini. Sorry to disappoint those that that think ALL staffys owners are scum.[/p][/quote]Caz2210, glad I am not the only one who is the same as you, all the small minded people seem to think that all staffie owners are unemployed alcholics with major dug problems, have disgusting houses, dont walk their dogs and let them bark all the time and poo everywhere. Well I am definately NOT in that category. Helenw

9:38am Wed 11 Dec 13

Illinois10 says...

The saying, "It wouldn't hurt a fly" or others similar are wrong. They 'could' do, the owners need to be aware or this...but in order for the dogs not to hurt anyone or anything they shouldn't allow the dogs to do it.
If you don't trust your dog, or a human, then they will do something that you don't want to. The difference between the 2 is humans do it for emotional reasons, whether it be for fun or spite. Dogs don't use emotions like we do, it's trained into them either through abuse/neglect or to make them 'status symbol'....any breed not just staffies
The saying, "It wouldn't hurt a fly" or others similar are wrong. They 'could' do, the owners need to be aware or this...but in order for the dogs not to hurt anyone or anything they shouldn't allow the dogs to do it. If you don't trust your dog, or a human, then they will do something that you don't want to. The difference between the 2 is humans do it for emotional reasons, whether it be for fun or spite. Dogs don't use emotions like we do, it's trained into them either through abuse/neglect or to make them 'status symbol'....any breed not just staffies Illinois10

9:53am Wed 11 Dec 13

Test Tickle says...

For all those Staffy owners who think their dog would never hurt anyone, if the worst did happen and your dog managed to clamp its jaws down onto a Childs head remember that a staffy has a bite pressure of roughly 30 times that of a German Sheppard and the likelihood of you being able to get the dog to release its grip would be low to say the least so no good calling it or clicking your fingers in that scenario, Remember the Four year old Girl killed by the family Bulldog, the mother stabbed the Bulldog to death but even that could not save the child from being mauled to death, if you own a Staffy or other large dog do the right thing and keep it on a leash and muzzle it if necessary, and if you have small children then get a Cat instead!.
For all those Staffy owners who think their dog would never hurt anyone, if the worst did happen and your dog managed to clamp its jaws down onto a Childs head remember that a staffy has a bite pressure of roughly 30 times that of a German Sheppard and the likelihood of you being able to get the dog to release its grip would be low to say the least so no good calling it or clicking your fingers in that scenario, Remember the Four year old Girl killed by the family Bulldog, the mother stabbed the Bulldog to death but even that could not save the child from being mauled to death, if you own a Staffy or other large dog do the right thing and keep it on a leash and muzzle it if necessary, and if you have small children then get a Cat instead!. Test Tickle

10:14am Wed 11 Dec 13

Caz2210 says...

Test Tickle wrote:
For all those Staffy owners who think their dog would never hurt anyone, if the worst did happen and your dog managed to clamp its jaws down onto a Childs head remember that a staffy has a bite pressure of roughly 30 times that of a German Sheppard and the likelihood of you being able to get the dog to release its grip would be low to say the least so no good calling it or clicking your fingers in that scenario, Remember the Four year old Girl killed by the family Bulldog, the mother stabbed the Bulldog to death but even that could not save the child from being mauled to death, if you own a Staffy or other large dog do the right thing and keep it on a leash and muzzle it if necessary, and if you have small children then get a Cat instead!.
Temperament
Although individual differences in personality exist, common traits exist throughout the Staffords. Due to its breeding, and history, the Staffordshire Bull Terrier is known for its character of intelligence, fearlessness and loyalty. This, coupled with its affection for its friends, its off-duty quietness and trustworthy stability, make it a foremost all-purpose dog.
The breed is naturally muscular and may appear intimidating; however, because of their natural fondness for people, most Staffords are temperamentally ill-suited for guard or attack-dog training. Staffordshire Bull Terrier puppies are very easy to house train.
This dog is commonly referred to as a nanny dog due to its amazing temperament and tolerance around children.


Test tickle - your opinion of 'if you have children get a cat instead' is so narrow minded, any dog is capable of harming a child!!
[quote][p][bold]Test Tickle[/bold] wrote: For all those Staffy owners who think their dog would never hurt anyone, if the worst did happen and your dog managed to clamp its jaws down onto a Childs head remember that a staffy has a bite pressure of roughly 30 times that of a German Sheppard and the likelihood of you being able to get the dog to release its grip would be low to say the least so no good calling it or clicking your fingers in that scenario, Remember the Four year old Girl killed by the family Bulldog, the mother stabbed the Bulldog to death but even that could not save the child from being mauled to death, if you own a Staffy or other large dog do the right thing and keep it on a leash and muzzle it if necessary, and if you have small children then get a Cat instead!.[/p][/quote]Temperament[edit] Although individual differences in personality exist, common traits exist throughout the Staffords. Due to its breeding, and history, the Staffordshire Bull Terrier is known for its character of intelligence, fearlessness and loyalty.[4] This, coupled with its affection for its friends, its off-duty quietness and trustworthy stability, make it a foremost all-purpose dog.[5] The breed is naturally muscular and may appear intimidating; however, because of their natural fondness for people, most Staffords are temperamentally ill-suited for guard or attack-dog training. Staffordshire Bull Terrier puppies are very easy to house train.[6] This dog is commonly referred to as a nanny dog due to its amazing temperament and tolerance around children. Test tickle - your opinion of 'if you have children get a cat instead' is so narrow minded, any dog is capable of harming a child!! Caz2210

10:20am Wed 11 Dec 13

ballyblue says...

Sensible Man wrote:
It always seems to be these horrible Staffordshire Devil Dogs involved in these incidents. They should be banned under the dangerous dogs act.

And what sort of weird person takes these devil dogs out without a lead? Truly unbelievable. And to run away - what a total piece of c rap.
Sorry but I think you are wrong to taint all dogs in that way. It is the way they are brought up. Staffs were once know as Nanny dogs due to their protective nature with children. Sadly here in Basildon and other areas they are used as status symbols. I have too have had a bad experience whilst walking my greyhounds where an owner did not have hers on a lead. he was fine but I was very upset. On the other hand I see many on leads near where I live and some are muzzled not becourse they are vicious but becourse the owner is respective of others. My elder neighbour had one and she would not hurt a fly. it is down to the owners. Staffs are what you make them to be and if you let their nature and their dominance out this is what you will get. if you are responsible and treat the dogs well you will not have this issue.
[quote][p][bold]Sensible Man[/bold] wrote: It always seems to be these horrible Staffordshire Devil Dogs involved in these incidents. They should be banned under the dangerous dogs act. And what sort of weird person takes these devil dogs out without a lead? Truly unbelievable. And to run away - what a total piece of c rap.[/p][/quote]Sorry but I think you are wrong to taint all dogs in that way. It is the way they are brought up. Staffs were once know as Nanny dogs due to their protective nature with children. Sadly here in Basildon and other areas they are used as status symbols. I have too have had a bad experience whilst walking my greyhounds where an owner did not have hers on a lead. he was fine but I was very upset. On the other hand I see many on leads near where I live and some are muzzled not becourse they are vicious but becourse the owner is respective of others. My elder neighbour had one and she would not hurt a fly. it is down to the owners. Staffs are what you make them to be and if you let their nature and their dominance out this is what you will get. if you are responsible and treat the dogs well you will not have this issue. ballyblue

10:42am Wed 11 Dec 13

Vange girl says...

I do have a cat and a dog who get on like a house on fire , I like the way people always judge the dog ,let me point out not all dogs are scum my dog is amazing and a total drip ,my mums dogs (who is yiny) went for my staffy x boxer and she layed down to submit ,so dont judge all staffy dog's u do get good ones with good owners :)
I do have a cat and a dog who get on like a house on fire , I like the way people always judge the dog ,let me point out not all dogs are scum my dog is amazing and a total drip ,my mums dogs (who is yiny) went for my staffy x boxer and she layed down to submit ,so dont judge all staffy dog's u do get good ones with good owners :) Vange girl

10:42am Wed 11 Dec 13

Loosers says...

I'm fed-up with dogs running loose along the beaches. The summertime ban should be made a permanent year-long rule. And, all dogs should be on leads and muzzled when out in public. Just having a lead is pretty useless as most people have the extendible type which negates any meaningful level of control ; therefore muzzles are needed. How many more people (and pets) will be injured before somebody does something about this. The dog brigade mantra is "He's/She's alright". They all say the same thing, like robots. Dogs should not be running loose anywhere.
I'm fed-up with dogs running loose along the beaches. The summertime ban should be made a permanent year-long rule. And, all dogs should be on leads and muzzled when out in public. Just having a lead is pretty useless as most people have the extendible type which negates any meaningful level of control ; therefore muzzles are needed. How many more people (and pets) will be injured before somebody does something about this. The dog brigade mantra is "He's/She's alright". They all say the same thing, like robots. Dogs should not be running loose anywhere. Loosers

10:43am Wed 11 Dec 13

Vange girl says...

Tiny*
Tiny* Vange girl

10:45am Wed 11 Dec 13

Vange girl says...

Ps my dog don't run lose as shes a baby
Ps my dog don't run lose as shes a baby Vange girl

11:07am Wed 11 Dec 13

Fred the Phoenix says...

Vange girl wrote:
Ps my dog don't run lose as shes a baby
It will grow up. Any dog is capable of turning and attacking a child or another dog. Dogs should be banned or they should all be muzzled in public. End of.
[quote][p][bold]Vange girl[/bold] wrote: Ps my dog don't run lose as shes a baby[/p][/quote]It will grow up. Any dog is capable of turning and attacking a child or another dog. Dogs should be banned or they should all be muzzled in public. End of. Fred the Phoenix

11:14am Wed 11 Dec 13

DogsMessInLeigh says...

Helenw wrote:
DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
Helenw wrote:
Sensible Man wrote:
It always seems to be these horrible Staffordshire Devil Dogs involved in these incidents. They should be banned under the dangerous dogs act.

And what sort of weird person takes these devil dogs out without a lead? Truly unbelievable. And to run away - what a total piece of c rap.
I am a 44 year old very girly lady and I have one of those "Staffordshire Devil dogs", am I weird???? I walk my staffie everyday, 3 times a day without a lead because I know I can trust my dog and can control her. I took the time to take her to dog training and have spent time and energy making sure she is a good dog. One word or click of my fingers and she will stop and be back at my side and she is only allowed to say"hello" to another dog if I let her. ANY dog can be dangerous. my friend has a chihauhua and it barks and yaps at anyone and anything and their postman refuses to deliver their post as it bit him! Don't demonise these dogs and tar them with the same brush.
"" I walk my staffie everyday, 3 times a day without a lead""

then you are breaking a law....dogs should be on a lead on roads/streets under council bylaws.(look for the signs)
please forward your name and address to the dog warden/enforcement officer so they can fine you.
Many Thanks.
lol, how small minded of you. I have walked her when police cars have gone past, and the other day two community police were walking round my road and they didnt say anything as she was as well behaved as usual. At least I walk my dog. So many of these scum dont walk their dogs or get them used to other dogs whereas I did right from when she was 9 weeks old as I knew what reputation these poor dogs have. I will continue to walk my dog without a lead (I do actually take one with me) as unlike the young yobs and scumbags who usually have them I CAN control my dog thank you :))
See the news today...woman ripped apart by her dogs...1 being a banned american pitball the other a staffie, lovely little cuddly wuddly poopy poo poo's...arrrrr.
[quote][p][bold]Helenw[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Helenw[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sensible Man[/bold] wrote: It always seems to be these horrible Staffordshire Devil Dogs involved in these incidents. They should be banned under the dangerous dogs act. And what sort of weird person takes these devil dogs out without a lead? Truly unbelievable. And to run away - what a total piece of c rap.[/p][/quote]I am a 44 year old very girly lady and I have one of those "Staffordshire Devil dogs", am I weird???? I walk my staffie everyday, 3 times a day without a lead because I know I can trust my dog and can control her. I took the time to take her to dog training and have spent time and energy making sure she is a good dog. One word or click of my fingers and she will stop and be back at my side and she is only allowed to say"hello" to another dog if I let her. ANY dog can be dangerous. my friend has a chihauhua and it barks and yaps at anyone and anything and their postman refuses to deliver their post as it bit him! Don't demonise these dogs and tar them with the same brush.[/p][/quote]"" I walk my staffie everyday, 3 times a day without a lead"" then you are breaking a law....dogs should be on a lead on roads/streets under council bylaws.(look for the signs) please forward your name and address to the dog warden/enforcement officer so they can fine you. Many Thanks.[/p][/quote]lol, how small minded of you. I have walked her when police cars have gone past, and the other day two community police were walking round my road and they didnt say anything as she was as well behaved as usual. At least I walk my dog. So many of these scum dont walk their dogs or get them used to other dogs whereas I did right from when she was 9 weeks old as I knew what reputation these poor dogs have. I will continue to walk my dog without a lead (I do actually take one with me) as unlike the young yobs and scumbags who usually have them I CAN control my dog thank you :))[/p][/quote]See the news today...woman ripped apart by her dogs...1 being a banned american pitball the other a staffie, lovely little cuddly wuddly poopy poo poo's...arrrrr. DogsMessInLeigh

11:20am Wed 11 Dec 13

Vange girl says...

Im not saying she couldnt turn , im saying its the way the are brought up by owners its not the dogs fult that some owners bring there dogs up the be thugs ,my dog as been brought up by myself and child and partner im not a thug who will bring her up to be a thug dog ,shes 15mths old and massive .your saying dogs should be banned sorry I disagree , not all dogs should be , but yes some - I feel sorry for tge dogs who have owners that bring them up to fight ans attack others its not the dogs fult its the owner's
Im not saying she couldnt turn , im saying its the way the are brought up by owners its not the dogs fult that some owners bring there dogs up the be thugs ,my dog as been brought up by myself and child and partner im not a thug who will bring her up to be a thug dog ,shes 15mths old and massive .your saying dogs should be banned sorry I disagree , not all dogs should be , but yes some - I feel sorry for tge dogs who have owners that bring them up to fight ans attack others its not the dogs fult its the owner's Vange girl

11:31am Wed 11 Dec 13

Vange girl says...

Iv just read about the girl , she knew her pit was nasty as it was turning on her but still chose to keep it, they are
banned dogs !!!!!!!
Iv just read about the girl , she knew her pit was nasty as it was turning on her but still chose to keep it, they are banned dogs !!!!!!! Vange girl

11:34am Wed 11 Dec 13

LynR 99 says...

John Bull 40 wrote:
How many more attacks before they change the law to make all dogs wear
a muzzle?
How many more attacks on humanity before they change the law and make all men wear a straight jacket...look at the state of the World you live in and put it into perspective! Man is responsible for the destruction/maiming of millions of innocent children and animals...true?

The same as you dont judge the whole of humanity please dont judge all dogs!
[quote][p][bold]John Bull 40[/bold] wrote: How many more attacks before they change the law to make all dogs wear a muzzle?[/p][/quote]How many more attacks on humanity before they change the law and make all men wear a straight jacket...look at the state of the World you live in and put it into perspective! Man is responsible for the destruction/maiming of millions of innocent children and animals...true? The same as you dont judge the whole of humanity please dont judge all dogs! LynR 99

11:40am Wed 11 Dec 13

LynR 99 says...

John Bull 40 wrote:
How many more attacks before they change the law to make all dogs wear
a muzzle?
How many more attacks before they change the law to make all mankind wear a muzzle. Put things in perspective and look at the horrendous crimes that are committed against children and innocents every day. Crimes that leave kids scarred for life or worse.

Do you judge all of mankind to be capable of attacking? So why judge the massive majority of dogs?
[quote][p][bold]John Bull 40[/bold] wrote: How many more attacks before they change the law to make all dogs wear a muzzle?[/p][/quote]How many more attacks before they change the law to make all mankind wear a muzzle. Put things in perspective and look at the horrendous crimes that are committed against children and innocents every day. Crimes that leave kids scarred for life or worse. Do you judge all of mankind to be capable of attacking? So why judge the massive majority of dogs? LynR 99

11:45am Wed 11 Dec 13

LynR 99 says...

Southend Andy wrote:
All dogs should be muzzled in public no matter of breed.
So should mankind then...stop the rapes, murder and torture that is carried out by the shed load each and every day! I would feel safer in a house full of dogs than I would 'out in public' in certain parts of this world!
[quote][p][bold]Southend Andy[/bold] wrote: All dogs should be muzzled in public no matter of breed.[/p][/quote]So should mankind then...stop the rapes, murder and torture that is carried out by the shed load each and every day! I would feel safer in a house full of dogs than I would 'out in public' in certain parts of this world! LynR 99

12:05pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Vange girl says...

U hear abour more murders ,abuse rapes and attacks from human kind then u do about dog attacks- mussel all human kind then - I rest my case
U hear abour more murders ,abuse rapes and attacks from human kind then u do about dog attacks- mussel all human kind then - I rest my case Vange girl

12:23pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Rochford Rob says...

Muzzle both ends.

Sorted.

Am sure the lady in Leeds opined her dogs 'wouldn't hurt a fly'

Why people need this sh*t machines in the first place, Lord only knows.

OK if you have sufficient land of your own on which to exercise them, but most seem to be in two up two down terraces and are taken out to cr@p in public places.
Muzzle both ends. Sorted. Am sure the lady in Leeds opined her dogs 'wouldn't hurt a fly' Why people need this sh*t machines in the first place, Lord only knows. OK if you have sufficient land of your own on which to exercise them, but most seem to be in two up two down terraces and are taken out to cr@p in public places. Rochford Rob

12:25pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Rochford Rob says...

Vange girl wrote:
U hear abour more murders ,abuse rapes and attacks from human kind then u do about dog attacks- mussel all human kind then - I rest my case
No rapes or murders reported here recently, plenty of dog attacks though.

Mussel?

What, like Moules marinières??
[quote][p][bold]Vange girl[/bold] wrote: U hear abour more murders ,abuse rapes and attacks from human kind then u do about dog attacks- mussel all human kind then - I rest my case[/p][/quote]No rapes or murders reported here recently, plenty of dog attacks though. Mussel? What, like Moules marinières?? Rochford Rob

12:41pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Caz2210 says...

Loosers wrote:
I'm fed-up with dogs running loose along the beaches. The summertime ban should be made a permanent year-long rule. And, all dogs should be on leads and muzzled when out in public. Just having a lead is pretty useless as most people have the extendible type which negates any meaningful level of control ; therefore muzzles are needed. How many more people (and pets) will be injured before somebody does something about this. The dog brigade mantra is "He's/She's alright". They all say the same thing, like robots. Dogs should not be running loose anywhere.
Dogs do require a certain level of excersise and besides, the beach isn't yours.
[quote][p][bold]Loosers[/bold] wrote: I'm fed-up with dogs running loose along the beaches. The summertime ban should be made a permanent year-long rule. And, all dogs should be on leads and muzzled when out in public. Just having a lead is pretty useless as most people have the extendible type which negates any meaningful level of control ; therefore muzzles are needed. How many more people (and pets) will be injured before somebody does something about this. The dog brigade mantra is "He's/She's alright". They all say the same thing, like robots. Dogs should not be running loose anywhere.[/p][/quote]Dogs do require a certain level of excersise and besides, the beach isn't yours. Caz2210

12:42pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Caz2210 says...

Fred the Phoenix wrote:
Vange girl wrote:
Ps my dog don't run lose as shes a baby
It will grow up. Any dog is capable of turning and attacking a child or another dog. Dogs should be banned or they should all be muzzled in public. End of.
Dogs should be banned! Did I read that correctly?
[quote][p][bold]Fred the Phoenix[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vange girl[/bold] wrote: Ps my dog don't run lose as shes a baby[/p][/quote]It will grow up. Any dog is capable of turning and attacking a child or another dog. Dogs should be banned or they should all be muzzled in public. End of.[/p][/quote]Dogs should be banned! Did I read that correctly? Caz2210

12:43pm Wed 11 Dec 13

pembury53 says...

Rochford Rob wrote:
Muzzle both ends. Sorted. Am sure the lady in Leeds opined her dogs 'wouldn't hurt a fly' Why people need this sh*t machines in the first place, Lord only knows. OK if you have sufficient land of your own on which to exercise them, but most seem to be in two up two down terraces and are taken out to cr@p in public places.
spot on RR !
[quote][p][bold]Rochford Rob[/bold] wrote: Muzzle both ends. Sorted. Am sure the lady in Leeds opined her dogs 'wouldn't hurt a fly' Why people need this sh*t machines in the first place, Lord only knows. OK if you have sufficient land of your own on which to exercise them, but most seem to be in two up two down terraces and are taken out to cr@p in public places.[/p][/quote]spot on RR ! pembury53

12:43pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Vange girl says...

Think u find there was a attack down clay hill Road and near tesco less in two week's ago, pitsea aint the safe place
Think u find there was a attack down clay hill Road and near tesco less in two week's ago, pitsea aint the safe place Vange girl

12:47pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Tom from Southend says...

Always staffies. Why own such dogs. They scare people on the streets. I have 2 small kids who walk face level with these breeds and it does worry us. Yes the owners will berate me for saying it but there is a correlation between staffies and attacks over other breeds. Dog owners can really be a militant bunch who do no wrong. We have to put up with their 'oh mine is so cute, harmless temperament, crap on pavement machines'. Muzzles should also be made law.
Always staffies. Why own such dogs. They scare people on the streets. I have 2 small kids who walk face level with these breeds and it does worry us. Yes the owners will berate me for saying it but there is a correlation between staffies and attacks over other breeds. Dog owners can really be a militant bunch who do no wrong. We have to put up with their 'oh mine is so cute, harmless temperament, crap on pavement machines'. Muzzles should also be made law. Tom from Southend

12:48pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Vange girl says...

Rochford Rob wrote:
Vange girl wrote: U hear abour more murders ,abuse rapes and attacks from human kind then u do about dog attacks- mussel all human kind then - I rest my case
No rapes or murders reported here recently, plenty of dog attacks though. Mussel? What, like Moules marinières??
U want to take **** coz I spelt sank wrong the shame on u
[quote][p][bold]Rochford Rob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vange girl[/bold] wrote: U hear abour more murders ,abuse rapes and attacks from human kind then u do about dog attacks- mussel all human kind then - I rest my case[/p][/quote]No rapes or murders reported here recently, plenty of dog attacks though. Mussel? What, like Moules marinières??[/p][/quote]U want to take **** coz I spelt sank wrong the shame on u Vange girl

12:51pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Caz2210 says...

So many dog haters, this country used to be pet mad! Dogs save life's, assist the police, fire brigade, blind people and on and on and on.... All through training. When will the anti dog brigade appreciate that dogs can be trained, just like humans. If someone has horrible thieving kids everyone blames the parents, rightly so. So how comes so few of you on here can't grasp the saying 'don't blame the dog, blame the owner' and blame the breed instead, so naive to think like that!
So many dog haters, this country used to be pet mad! Dogs save life's, assist the police, fire brigade, blind people and on and on and on.... All through training. When will the anti dog brigade appreciate that dogs can be trained, just like humans. If someone has horrible thieving kids everyone blames the parents, rightly so. So how comes so few of you on here can't grasp the saying 'don't blame the dog, blame the owner' and blame the breed instead, so naive to think like that! Caz2210

12:56pm Wed 11 Dec 13

pembury53 says...

Helenw wrote:
Sensible Man wrote: It always seems to be these horrible Staffordshire Devil Dogs involved in these incidents. They should be banned under the dangerous dogs act. And what sort of weird person takes these devil dogs out without a lead? Truly unbelievable. And to run away - what a total piece of c rap.
I am a 44 year old very girly lady and I have one of those "Staffordshire Devil dogs", am I weird???? I walk my staffie everyday, 3 times a day without a lead because I know I can trust my dog and can control her. I took the time to take her to dog training and have spent time and energy making sure she is a good dog. One word or click of my fingers and she will stop and be back at my side and she is only allowed to say"hello" to another dog if I let her. ANY dog can be dangerous. my friend has a chihauhua and it barks and yaps at anyone and anything and their postman refuses to deliver their post as it bit him! Don't demonise these dogs and tar them with the same brush.
what a daft argument ! If a chihauha bit me i would kick the thing 15 feet in the air and then go for a drop goal........ this "all dogs can be dangerous" rhetoric needs nailing............ of course any dog can bite, but the difference is you can't get a 'staffie' and other similar breeds off once they do, and there's enough reports each year to show which dogs are the dangerous one's, savaging children and other peoples pets..... incredible that so many people find that fact so difficult to comprehend..... even more incredible that nothing gets done by this useless government....
[quote][p][bold]Helenw[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sensible Man[/bold] wrote: It always seems to be these horrible Staffordshire Devil Dogs involved in these incidents. They should be banned under the dangerous dogs act. And what sort of weird person takes these devil dogs out without a lead? Truly unbelievable. And to run away - what a total piece of c rap.[/p][/quote]I am a 44 year old very girly lady and I have one of those "Staffordshire Devil dogs", am I weird???? I walk my staffie everyday, 3 times a day without a lead because I know I can trust my dog and can control her. I took the time to take her to dog training and have spent time and energy making sure she is a good dog. One word or click of my fingers and she will stop and be back at my side and she is only allowed to say"hello" to another dog if I let her. ANY dog can be dangerous. my friend has a chihauhua and it barks and yaps at anyone and anything and their postman refuses to deliver their post as it bit him! Don't demonise these dogs and tar them with the same brush.[/p][/quote]what a daft argument ! If a chihauha bit me i would kick the thing 15 feet in the air and then go for a drop goal........ this "all dogs can be dangerous" rhetoric needs nailing............ of course any dog can bite, but the difference is you can't get a 'staffie' and other similar breeds off once they do, and there's enough reports each year to show which dogs are the dangerous one's, savaging children and other peoples pets..... incredible that so many people find that fact so difficult to comprehend..... even more incredible that nothing gets done by this useless government.... pembury53

12:58pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Vange girl says...

Caz2210 wrote:
Fred the Phoenix wrote:
Vange girl wrote: Ps my dog don't run lose as shes a baby
It will grow up. Any dog is capable of turning and attacking a child or another dog. Dogs should be banned or they should all be muzzled in public. End of.
Dogs should be banned! Did I read that correctly?
No dogs shouldn't be banned lol
[quote][p][bold]Caz2210[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fred the Phoenix[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vange girl[/bold] wrote: Ps my dog don't run lose as shes a baby[/p][/quote]It will grow up. Any dog is capable of turning and attacking a child or another dog. Dogs should be banned or they should all be muzzled in public. End of.[/p][/quote]Dogs should be banned! Did I read that correctly?[/p][/quote]No dogs shouldn't be banned lol Vange girl

1:00pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Tom from Southend says...

Caz2210 wrote:
So many dog haters, this country used to be pet mad! Dogs save life's, assist the police, fire brigade, blind people and on and on and on.... All through training. When will the anti dog brigade appreciate that dogs can be trained, just like humans. If someone has horrible thieving kids everyone blames the parents, rightly so. So how comes so few of you on here can't grasp the saying 'don't blame the dog, blame the owner' and blame the breed instead, so naive to think like that!
Ridiculous comment..Staffies don't save peoples lives and they don't make blind dogs.
[quote][p][bold]Caz2210[/bold] wrote: So many dog haters, this country used to be pet mad! Dogs save life's, assist the police, fire brigade, blind people and on and on and on.... All through training. When will the anti dog brigade appreciate that dogs can be trained, just like humans. If someone has horrible thieving kids everyone blames the parents, rightly so. So how comes so few of you on here can't grasp the saying 'don't blame the dog, blame the owner' and blame the breed instead, so naive to think like that![/p][/quote]Ridiculous comment..Staffies don't save peoples lives and they don't make blind dogs. Tom from Southend

1:08pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Caz2210 says...

Tom from Southend wrote:
Caz2210 wrote:
So many dog haters, this country used to be pet mad! Dogs save life's, assist the police, fire brigade, blind people and on and on and on.... All through training. When will the anti dog brigade appreciate that dogs can be trained, just like humans. If someone has horrible thieving kids everyone blames the parents, rightly so. So how comes so few of you on here can't grasp the saying 'don't blame the dog, blame the owner' and blame the breed instead, so naive to think like that!
Ridiculous comment..Staffies don't save peoples lives and they don't make blind dogs.
Different dogs have different qualities tom, springers for their sense of smell, labs for intelligence, German shepherds for protecting and so on. I did not say staffys are life savers all though they have started to introduce them into some police forces now. You really should do some research., I think you would be pleasantly surprised!
[quote][p][bold]Tom from Southend[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Caz2210[/bold] wrote: So many dog haters, this country used to be pet mad! Dogs save life's, assist the police, fire brigade, blind people and on and on and on.... All through training. When will the anti dog brigade appreciate that dogs can be trained, just like humans. If someone has horrible thieving kids everyone blames the parents, rightly so. So how comes so few of you on here can't grasp the saying 'don't blame the dog, blame the owner' and blame the breed instead, so naive to think like that![/p][/quote]Ridiculous comment..Staffies don't save peoples lives and they don't make blind dogs.[/p][/quote]Different dogs have different qualities tom, springers for their sense of smell, labs for intelligence, German shepherds for protecting and so on. I did not say staffys are life savers all though they have started to introduce them into some police forces now. You really should do some research., I think you would be pleasantly surprised! Caz2210

1:09pm Wed 11 Dec 13

pembury53 says...

Caz2210 wrote:
So many dog haters, this country used to be pet mad! Dogs save life's, assist the police, fire brigade, blind people and on and on and on.... All through training. When will the anti dog brigade appreciate that dogs can be trained, just like humans. If someone has horrible thieving kids everyone blames the parents, rightly so. So how comes so few of you on here can't grasp the saying 'don't blame the dog, blame the owner' and blame the breed instead, so naive to think like that!
so how do you propose that bad owners are policed ? what is the test that says you can or can't own a dog ? track suit bottoms ?
The fact is it's nigh on impossible to vet everyone in the country that way....... far simpler to ban and eventually eradicate these things that were originally bred for the sole purpose of killing something......... why can't people make do with a labrador or some other less lethal type? As for "used to be pet mad" are you kidding ? there everywhere, along with the mess....
[quote][p][bold]Caz2210[/bold] wrote: So many dog haters, this country used to be pet mad! Dogs save life's, assist the police, fire brigade, blind people and on and on and on.... All through training. When will the anti dog brigade appreciate that dogs can be trained, just like humans. If someone has horrible thieving kids everyone blames the parents, rightly so. So how comes so few of you on here can't grasp the saying 'don't blame the dog, blame the owner' and blame the breed instead, so naive to think like that![/p][/quote]so how do you propose that bad owners are policed ? what is the test that says you can or can't own a dog ? track suit bottoms ? The fact is it's nigh on impossible to vet everyone in the country that way....... far simpler to ban and eventually eradicate these things that were originally bred for the sole purpose of killing something......... why can't people make do with a labrador or some other less lethal type? As for "used to be pet mad" are you kidding ? there everywhere, along with the mess.... pembury53

1:12pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Vange girl says...

Tom from Southend wrote:
Caz2210 wrote: So many dog haters, this country used to be pet mad! Dogs save life's, assist the police, fire brigade, blind people and on and on and on.... All through training. When will the anti dog brigade appreciate that dogs can be trained, just like humans. If someone has horrible thieving kids everyone blames the parents, rightly so. So how comes so few of you on here can't grasp the saying 'don't blame the dog, blame the owner' and blame the breed instead, so naive to think like that!
Ridiculous comment..Staffies don't save peoples lives and they don't make blind dogs.
I still blame the owner's on the way they bring the dogs up not just stafs but all dogs so glad mines on a lead coz id get jaded even know im not a thug just got a staf lol
[quote][p][bold]Tom from Southend[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Caz2210[/bold] wrote: So many dog haters, this country used to be pet mad! Dogs save life's, assist the police, fire brigade, blind people and on and on and on.... All through training. When will the anti dog brigade appreciate that dogs can be trained, just like humans. If someone has horrible thieving kids everyone blames the parents, rightly so. So how comes so few of you on here can't grasp the saying 'don't blame the dog, blame the owner' and blame the breed instead, so naive to think like that![/p][/quote]Ridiculous comment..Staffies don't save peoples lives and they don't make blind dogs.[/p][/quote]I still blame the owner's on the way they bring the dogs up not just stafs but all dogs so glad mines on a lead coz id get jaded even know im not a thug just got a staf lol Vange girl

1:14pm Wed 11 Dec 13

exBillericayDicky says...

A friend bred Staffies, and would only sell to who she felt would treat the dog well, and be able to exercise it enough and provide the correct environment possible for a safe upbringing. Staffies are lovely dogs,

All breeds *can* be dangerous, and all can be safe to leave with your kids, it is not only how they are raised and trained, but the dogs' temprement also. A friend with 2 Tollers (size of a Labrador, but 1000 times more inteligent) had 2 brothers from the same parents, one was happy to be petted quite hard by the 2 year old, the other not so and would growl. Same training, different result to the same stimulii.
A friend bred Staffies, and would only sell to who she felt would treat the dog well, and be able to exercise it enough and provide the correct environment possible for a safe upbringing. Staffies are lovely dogs, All breeds *can* be dangerous, and all can be safe to leave with your kids, it is not only how they are raised and trained, but the dogs' temprement also. A friend with 2 Tollers (size of a Labrador, but 1000 times more inteligent) had 2 brothers from the same parents, one was happy to be petted quite hard by the 2 year old, the other not so and would growl. Same training, different result to the same stimulii. exBillericayDicky

1:15pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Caz2210 says...

pembury53 wrote:
Caz2210 wrote:
So many dog haters, this country used to be pet mad! Dogs save life's, assist the police, fire brigade, blind people and on and on and on.... All through training. When will the anti dog brigade appreciate that dogs can be trained, just like humans. If someone has horrible thieving kids everyone blames the parents, rightly so. So how comes so few of you on here can't grasp the saying 'don't blame the dog, blame the owner' and blame the breed instead, so naive to think like that!
so how do you propose that bad owners are policed ? what is the test that says you can or can't own a dog ? track suit bottoms ?
The fact is it's nigh on impossible to vet everyone in the country that way....... far simpler to ban and eventually eradicate these things that were originally bred for the sole purpose of killing something......... why can't people make do with a labrador or some other less lethal type? As for "used to be pet mad" are you kidding ? there everywhere, along with the mess....
You are right however this is an issue for the government to resolve. I would myself happily pay for a dog license, I think most responsible dog owners would, there is no doubt that something needs to be done.
[quote][p][bold]pembury53[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Caz2210[/bold] wrote: So many dog haters, this country used to be pet mad! Dogs save life's, assist the police, fire brigade, blind people and on and on and on.... All through training. When will the anti dog brigade appreciate that dogs can be trained, just like humans. If someone has horrible thieving kids everyone blames the parents, rightly so. So how comes so few of you on here can't grasp the saying 'don't blame the dog, blame the owner' and blame the breed instead, so naive to think like that![/p][/quote]so how do you propose that bad owners are policed ? what is the test that says you can or can't own a dog ? track suit bottoms ? The fact is it's nigh on impossible to vet everyone in the country that way....... far simpler to ban and eventually eradicate these things that were originally bred for the sole purpose of killing something......... why can't people make do with a labrador or some other less lethal type? As for "used to be pet mad" are you kidding ? there everywhere, along with the mess....[/p][/quote]You are right however this is an issue for the government to resolve. I would myself happily pay for a dog license, I think most responsible dog owners would, there is no doubt that something needs to be done. Caz2210

1:24pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Rochford Rob says...

Vange girl wrote:
Rochford Rob wrote:
Vange girl wrote: U hear abour more murders ,abuse rapes and attacks from human kind then u do about dog attacks- mussel all human kind then - I rest my case
No rapes or murders reported here recently, plenty of dog attacks though. Mussel? What, like Moules marinières??
U want to take **** coz I spelt sank wrong the shame on u
Sorry? Would you please repeat that please?

In English.

Thank you so much.

Sank? Are you on boat?

I think the shame is upon you and whoever is /was responsible for your (lack of) education.

Tell me, do you have one of these aggressive sh*t-machines? You do don't you.

All the signs are there.
[quote][p][bold]Vange girl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rochford Rob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vange girl[/bold] wrote: U hear abour more murders ,abuse rapes and attacks from human kind then u do about dog attacks- mussel all human kind then - I rest my case[/p][/quote]No rapes or murders reported here recently, plenty of dog attacks though. Mussel? What, like Moules marinières??[/p][/quote]U want to take **** coz I spelt sank wrong the shame on u[/p][/quote]Sorry? Would you please repeat that please? In English. Thank you so much. Sank? Are you on boat? I think the shame is upon you and whoever is /was responsible for your (lack of) education. Tell me, do you have one of these aggressive sh*t-machines? You do don't you. All the signs are there. Rochford Rob

1:38pm Wed 11 Dec 13

exBillericayDicky says...

Rochford Rob wrote:
Vange girl wrote:
Rochford Rob wrote:
Vange girl wrote: U hear abour more murders ,abuse rapes and attacks from human kind then u do about dog attacks- mussel all human kind then - I rest my case
No rapes or murders reported here recently, plenty of dog attacks though. Mussel? What, like Moules marinières??
U want to take **** coz I spelt sank wrong the shame on u
Sorry? Would you please repeat that please? In English. Thank you so much. Sank? Are you on boat? I think the shame is upon you and whoever is /was responsible for your (lack of) education. Tell me, do you have one of these aggressive sh*t-machines? You do don't you. All the signs are there.
Prat!, have you never heard of dyslexia? I'm not saying Vange girl has it? and so what if she has?
Do you feel a big man for picking on someone for how they type on a message board?
[quote][p][bold]Rochford Rob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vange girl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rochford Rob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vange girl[/bold] wrote: U hear abour more murders ,abuse rapes and attacks from human kind then u do about dog attacks- mussel all human kind then - I rest my case[/p][/quote]No rapes or murders reported here recently, plenty of dog attacks though. Mussel? What, like Moules marinières??[/p][/quote]U want to take **** coz I spelt sank wrong the shame on u[/p][/quote]Sorry? Would you please repeat that please? In English. Thank you so much. Sank? Are you on boat? I think the shame is upon you and whoever is /was responsible for your (lack of) education. Tell me, do you have one of these aggressive sh*t-machines? You do don't you. All the signs are there.[/p][/quote]Prat!, have you never heard of dyslexia? I'm not saying Vange girl has it? and so what if she has? Do you feel a big man for picking on someone for how they type on a message board? exBillericayDicky

1:48pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Rochford Rob says...

exBillericayDicky wrote:
Rochford Rob wrote:
Vange girl wrote:
Rochford Rob wrote:
Vange girl wrote: U hear abour more murders ,abuse rapes and attacks from human kind then u do about dog attacks- mussel all human kind then - I rest my case
No rapes or murders reported here recently, plenty of dog attacks though. Mussel? What, like Moules marinières??
U want to take **** coz I spelt sank wrong the shame on u
Sorry? Would you please repeat that please? In English. Thank you so much. Sank? Are you on boat? I think the shame is upon you and whoever is /was responsible for your (lack of) education. Tell me, do you have one of these aggressive sh*t-machines? You do don't you. All the signs are there.
Prat!, have you never heard of dyslexia? I'm not saying Vange girl has it? and so what if she has? Do you feel a big man for picking on someone for how they type on a message board?
I expect someone who makes comments on a message board to do so in a way that most of us can understand it. ESPECIALLY if those comments are aimed at me.

Now then, who rattled your cage? I wonder if she's pleased that you've just labelled her as dyslexic?

I don't suppose that is the case though - thick and lazy maybe.

I see you aimed an ad hominem at me too.Oh, the irony.

You, like her, really should try harder. 4/10.
[quote][p][bold]exBillericayDicky[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rochford Rob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vange girl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rochford Rob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vange girl[/bold] wrote: U hear abour more murders ,abuse rapes and attacks from human kind then u do about dog attacks- mussel all human kind then - I rest my case[/p][/quote]No rapes or murders reported here recently, plenty of dog attacks though. Mussel? What, like Moules marinières??[/p][/quote]U want to take **** coz I spelt sank wrong the shame on u[/p][/quote]Sorry? Would you please repeat that please? In English. Thank you so much. Sank? Are you on boat? I think the shame is upon you and whoever is /was responsible for your (lack of) education. Tell me, do you have one of these aggressive sh*t-machines? You do don't you. All the signs are there.[/p][/quote]Prat!, have you never heard of dyslexia? I'm not saying Vange girl has it? and so what if she has? Do you feel a big man for picking on someone for how they type on a message board?[/p][/quote]I expect someone who makes comments on a message board to do so in a way that most of us can understand it. ESPECIALLY if those comments are aimed at me. Now then, who rattled your cage? I wonder if she's pleased that you've just labelled her as dyslexic? I don't suppose that is the case though - thick and lazy maybe. I see you aimed an ad hominem at me too.Oh, the irony. You, like her, really should try harder. 4/10. Rochford Rob

2:00pm Wed 11 Dec 13

angryofessex says...

Vange girl wrote:
U hear abour more murders ,abuse rapes and attacks from human kind then u do about dog attacks- mussel all human kind then - I rest my case
Just why do you, sorry U people want to own these type of animals.
[quote][p][bold]Vange girl[/bold] wrote: U hear abour more murders ,abuse rapes and attacks from human kind then u do about dog attacks- mussel all human kind then - I rest my case[/p][/quote]Just why do you, sorry U people want to own these type of animals. angryofessex

2:01pm Wed 11 Dec 13

exBillericayDicky says...

Rochford Rob wrote:
exBillericayDicky wrote:
Rochford Rob wrote:
Vange girl wrote:
Rochford Rob wrote:
Vange girl wrote: U hear abour more murders ,abuse rapes and attacks from human kind then u do about dog attacks- mussel all human kind then - I rest my case
No rapes or murders reported here recently, plenty of dog attacks though. Mussel? What, like Moules marinières??
U want to take **** coz I spelt sank wrong the shame on u
Sorry? Would you please repeat that please? In English. Thank you so much. Sank? Are you on boat? I think the shame is upon you and whoever is /was responsible for your (lack of) education. Tell me, do you have one of these aggressive sh*t-machines? You do don't you. All the signs are there.
Prat!, have you never heard of dyslexia? I'm not saying Vange girl has it? and so what if she has? Do you feel a big man for picking on someone for how they type on a message board?
I expect someone who makes comments on a message board to do so in a way that most of us can understand it. ESPECIALLY if those comments are aimed at me. Now then, who rattled your cage? I wonder if she's pleased that you've just labelled her as dyslexic? I don't suppose that is the case though - thick and lazy maybe. I see you aimed an ad hominem at me too.Oh, the irony. You, like her, really should try harder. 4/10.
Who rattled my cage? you did. As I asked, do you feel like a big man for picking on someone who, (as i said MAY be dyslexic - never said she was) doesn't type as you would expect? English is a varied language made up from many facets, that you could actually understand what had been written, but still abused the lass says a lot.

Which form of ad hominen have I used against you, there are many.

You should try harder 0/10
[quote][p][bold]Rochford Rob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]exBillericayDicky[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rochford Rob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vange girl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rochford Rob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vange girl[/bold] wrote: U hear abour more murders ,abuse rapes and attacks from human kind then u do about dog attacks- mussel all human kind then - I rest my case[/p][/quote]No rapes or murders reported here recently, plenty of dog attacks though. Mussel? What, like Moules marinières??[/p][/quote]U want to take **** coz I spelt sank wrong the shame on u[/p][/quote]Sorry? Would you please repeat that please? In English. Thank you so much. Sank? Are you on boat? I think the shame is upon you and whoever is /was responsible for your (lack of) education. Tell me, do you have one of these aggressive sh*t-machines? You do don't you. All the signs are there.[/p][/quote]Prat!, have you never heard of dyslexia? I'm not saying Vange girl has it? and so what if she has? Do you feel a big man for picking on someone for how they type on a message board?[/p][/quote]I expect someone who makes comments on a message board to do so in a way that most of us can understand it. ESPECIALLY if those comments are aimed at me. Now then, who rattled your cage? I wonder if she's pleased that you've just labelled her as dyslexic? I don't suppose that is the case though - thick and lazy maybe. I see you aimed an ad hominem at me too.Oh, the irony. You, like her, really should try harder. 4/10.[/p][/quote]Who rattled my cage? you did. As I asked, do you feel like a big man for picking on someone who, (as i said MAY be dyslexic - never said she was) doesn't type as you would expect? English is a varied language made up from many facets, that you could actually understand what had been written, but still abused the lass says a lot. Which form of ad hominen have I used against you, there are many. You should try harder 0/10 exBillericayDicky

2:10pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Vange girl says...

exBillericayDicky wrote:
Rochford Rob wrote:
Vange girl wrote:
Rochford Rob wrote:
Vange girl wrote: U hear abour more murders ,abuse rapes and attacks from human kind then u do about dog attacks- mussel all human kind then - I rest my case
No rapes or murders reported here recently, plenty of dog attacks though. Mussel? What, like Moules marinières??
U want to take **** coz I spelt sank wrong the shame on u
Sorry? Would you please repeat that please? In English. Thank you so much. Sank? Are you on boat? I think the shame is upon you and whoever is /was responsible for your (lack of) education. Tell me, do you have one of these aggressive sh*t-machines? You do don't you. All the signs are there.
Prat!, have you never heard of dyslexia? I'm not saying Vange girl has it? and so what if she has? Do you feel a big man for picking on someone for how they type on a message board?
Your a dick grow up and yes I cant spell so what and yes I do I have a very gentle dog ,um using my phone
[quote][p][bold]exBillericayDicky[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rochford Rob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vange girl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rochford Rob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vange girl[/bold] wrote: U hear abour more murders ,abuse rapes and attacks from human kind then u do about dog attacks- mussel all human kind then - I rest my case[/p][/quote]No rapes or murders reported here recently, plenty of dog attacks though. Mussel? What, like Moules marinières??[/p][/quote]U want to take **** coz I spelt sank wrong the shame on u[/p][/quote]Sorry? Would you please repeat that please? In English. Thank you so much. Sank? Are you on boat? I think the shame is upon you and whoever is /was responsible for your (lack of) education. Tell me, do you have one of these aggressive sh*t-machines? You do don't you. All the signs are there.[/p][/quote]Prat!, have you never heard of dyslexia? I'm not saying Vange girl has it? and so what if she has? Do you feel a big man for picking on someone for how they type on a message board?[/p][/quote]Your a dick grow up and yes I cant spell so what and yes I do I have a very gentle dog ,um using my phone Vange girl

2:13pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Vange girl says...

Rochford Rob wrote:
exBillericayDicky wrote:
Rochford Rob wrote:
Vange girl wrote:
Rochford Rob wrote:
Vange girl wrote: U hear abour more murders ,abuse rapes and attacks from human kind then u do about dog attacks- mussel all human kind then - I rest my case
No rapes or murders reported here recently, plenty of dog attacks though. Mussel? What, like Moules marinières??
U want to take **** coz I spelt sank wrong the shame on u
Sorry? Would you please repeat that please? In English. Thank you so much. Sank? Are you on boat? I think the shame is upon you and whoever is /was responsible for your (lack of) education. Tell me, do you have one of these aggressive sh*t-machines? You do don't you. All the signs are there.
Prat!, have you never heard of dyslexia? I'm not saying Vange girl has it? and so what if she has? Do you feel a big man for picking on someone for how they type on a message board?
I expect someone who makes comments on a message board to do so in a way that most of us can understand it. ESPECIALLY if those comments are aimed at me. Now then, who rattled your cage? I wonder if she's pleased that you've just labelled her as dyslexic? I don't suppose that is the case though - thick and lazy maybe. I see you aimed an ad hominem at me too.Oh, the irony. You, like her, really should try harder. 4/10.
Just so u know yes I cant spell ,so what shoot me lol grow up plz I can comment as much as I like so what if I spell things wrong I cant help that!!!!! And yes I do have a dog 15mths
[quote][p][bold]Rochford Rob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]exBillericayDicky[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rochford Rob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vange girl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rochford Rob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vange girl[/bold] wrote: U hear abour more murders ,abuse rapes and attacks from human kind then u do about dog attacks- mussel all human kind then - I rest my case[/p][/quote]No rapes or murders reported here recently, plenty of dog attacks though. Mussel? What, like Moules marinières??[/p][/quote]U want to take **** coz I spelt sank wrong the shame on u[/p][/quote]Sorry? Would you please repeat that please? In English. Thank you so much. Sank? Are you on boat? I think the shame is upon you and whoever is /was responsible for your (lack of) education. Tell me, do you have one of these aggressive sh*t-machines? You do don't you. All the signs are there.[/p][/quote]Prat!, have you never heard of dyslexia? I'm not saying Vange girl has it? and so what if she has? Do you feel a big man for picking on someone for how they type on a message board?[/p][/quote]I expect someone who makes comments on a message board to do so in a way that most of us can understand it. ESPECIALLY if those comments are aimed at me. Now then, who rattled your cage? I wonder if she's pleased that you've just labelled her as dyslexic? I don't suppose that is the case though - thick and lazy maybe. I see you aimed an ad hominem at me too.Oh, the irony. You, like her, really should try harder. 4/10.[/p][/quote]Just so u know yes I cant spell ,so what shoot me lol grow up plz I can comment as much as I like so what if I spell things wrong I cant help that!!!!! And yes I do have a dog 15mths Vange girl

2:21pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Loosers says...

Caz2210 wrote:
Loosers wrote:
I'm fed-up with dogs running loose along the beaches. The summertime ban should be made a permanent year-long rule. And, all dogs should be on leads and muzzled when out in public. Just having a lead is pretty useless as most people have the extendible type which negates any meaningful level of control ; therefore muzzles are needed. How many more people (and pets) will be injured before somebody does something about this. The dog brigade mantra is "He's/She's alright". They all say the same thing, like robots. Dogs should not be running loose anywhere.
Dogs do require a certain level of excersise and besides, the beach isn't yours.
The fact is from begin-Oct thru end-May the beach is not safe for walkers, children playing etc. because of the loose dogs. Dog owners should have the animals on leads, and run along with them if necessary; a "certain level of exercise" might do them some good too. Why should other beach users be fearful of using the beach because of these selfish people who all believe their animal is friendly. This is a safety issue, not to mention the matter of hygiene as dog waste is now evident all over the place.
[quote][p][bold]Caz2210[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Loosers[/bold] wrote: I'm fed-up with dogs running loose along the beaches. The summertime ban should be made a permanent year-long rule. And, all dogs should be on leads and muzzled when out in public. Just having a lead is pretty useless as most people have the extendible type which negates any meaningful level of control ; therefore muzzles are needed. How many more people (and pets) will be injured before somebody does something about this. The dog brigade mantra is "He's/She's alright". They all say the same thing, like robots. Dogs should not be running loose anywhere.[/p][/quote]Dogs do require a certain level of excersise and besides, the beach isn't yours.[/p][/quote]The fact is from begin-Oct thru end-May the beach is not safe for walkers, children playing etc. because of the loose dogs. Dog owners should have the animals on leads, and run along with them if necessary; a "certain level of exercise" might do them some good too. Why should other beach users be fearful of using the beach because of these selfish people who all believe their animal is friendly. This is a safety issue, not to mention the matter of hygiene as dog waste is now evident all over the place. Loosers

2:24pm Wed 11 Dec 13

DogsMessInLeigh says...

Vange Girl:
"Just so u know yes I cant spell ,so what shoot me lol grow up plz I can comment as much as I like so what if I spell things wrong I cant help that!!!!! And yes I do have a dog 15mths"


but you can help it...evening classes, or a course of some sort its never too late to learn it would cost mind you but if you can afford a dog inc all the running costs then maybe you have some for a learning course too.
Just a thought.
Vange Girl: "Just so u know yes I cant spell ,so what shoot me lol grow up plz I can comment as much as I like so what if I spell things wrong I cant help that!!!!! And yes I do have a dog 15mths" but you can help it...evening classes, or a course of some sort its never too late to learn it would cost mind you but if you can afford a dog inc all the running costs then maybe you have some for a learning course too. Just a thought. DogsMessInLeigh

2:24pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Vange girl says...

exBillericayDicky wrote:
Rochford Rob wrote:
exBillericayDicky wrote:
Rochford Rob wrote:
Vange girl wrote:
Rochford Rob wrote:
Vange girl wrote: U hear abour more murders ,abuse rapes and attacks from human kind then u do about dog attacks- mussel all human kind then - I rest my case
No rapes or murders reported here recently, plenty of dog attacks though. Mussel? What, like Moules marinières??
U want to take **** coz I spelt sank wrong the shame on u
Sorry? Would you please repeat that please? In English. Thank you so much. Sank? Are you on boat? I think the shame is upon you and whoever is /was responsible for your (lack of) education. Tell me, do you have one of these aggressive sh*t-machines? You do don't you. All the signs are there.
Prat!, have you never heard of dyslexia? I'm not saying Vange girl has it? and so what if she has? Do you feel a big man for picking on someone for how they type on a message board?
I expect someone who makes comments on a message board to do so in a way that most of us can understand it. ESPECIALLY if those comments are aimed at me. Now then, who rattled your cage? I wonder if she's pleased that you've just labelled her as dyslexic? I don't suppose that is the case though - thick and lazy maybe. I see you aimed an ad hominem at me too.Oh, the irony. You, like her, really should try harder. 4/10.
Who rattled my cage? you did. As I asked, do you feel like a big man for picking on someone who, (as i said MAY be dyslexic - never said she was) doesn't type as you would expect? English is a varied language made up from many facets, that you could actually understand what had been written, but still abused the lass says a lot. Which form of ad hominen have I used against you, there are many. You should try harder 0/10
Thankyou ^^
[quote][p][bold]exBillericayDicky[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rochford Rob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]exBillericayDicky[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rochford Rob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vange girl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rochford Rob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vange girl[/bold] wrote: U hear abour more murders ,abuse rapes and attacks from human kind then u do about dog attacks- mussel all human kind then - I rest my case[/p][/quote]No rapes or murders reported here recently, plenty of dog attacks though. Mussel? What, like Moules marinières??[/p][/quote]U want to take **** coz I spelt sank wrong the shame on u[/p][/quote]Sorry? Would you please repeat that please? In English. Thank you so much. Sank? Are you on boat? I think the shame is upon you and whoever is /was responsible for your (lack of) education. Tell me, do you have one of these aggressive sh*t-machines? You do don't you. All the signs are there.[/p][/quote]Prat!, have you never heard of dyslexia? I'm not saying Vange girl has it? and so what if she has? Do you feel a big man for picking on someone for how they type on a message board?[/p][/quote]I expect someone who makes comments on a message board to do so in a way that most of us can understand it. ESPECIALLY if those comments are aimed at me. Now then, who rattled your cage? I wonder if she's pleased that you've just labelled her as dyslexic? I don't suppose that is the case though - thick and lazy maybe. I see you aimed an ad hominem at me too.Oh, the irony. You, like her, really should try harder. 4/10.[/p][/quote]Who rattled my cage? you did. As I asked, do you feel like a big man for picking on someone who, (as i said MAY be dyslexic - never said she was) doesn't type as you would expect? English is a varied language made up from many facets, that you could actually understand what had been written, but still abused the lass says a lot. Which form of ad hominen have I used against you, there are many. You should try harder 0/10[/p][/quote]Thankyou ^^ Vange girl

2:34pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Vange girl says...

DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
Vange Girl: "Just so u know yes I cant spell ,so what shoot me lol grow up plz I can comment as much as I like so what if I spell things wrong I cant help that!!!!! And yes I do have a dog 15mths" but you can help it...evening classes, or a course of some sort its never too late to learn it would cost mind you but if you can afford a dog inc all the running costs then maybe you have some for a learning course too. Just a thought.
I work and have a five year old son ,so thats how I can afford it im not on benefits im a working mother and always worked from the age of 16
[quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: Vange Girl: "Just so u know yes I cant spell ,so what shoot me lol grow up plz I can comment as much as I like so what if I spell things wrong I cant help that!!!!! And yes I do have a dog 15mths" but you can help it...evening classes, or a course of some sort its never too late to learn it would cost mind you but if you can afford a dog inc all the running costs then maybe you have some for a learning course too. Just a thought.[/p][/quote]I work and have a five year old son ,so thats how I can afford it im not on benefits im a working mother and always worked from the age of 16 Vange girl

2:42pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Vange girl says...

Vange girl wrote:
DogsMessInLeigh wrote: Vange Girl: "Just so u know yes I cant spell ,so what shoot me lol grow up plz I can comment as much as I like so what if I spell things wrong I cant help that!!!!! And yes I do have a dog 15mths" but you can help it...evening classes, or a course of some sort its never too late to learn it would cost mind you but if you can afford a dog inc all the running costs then maybe you have some for a learning course too. Just a thought.
I work and have a five year old son ,so thats how I can afford it im not on benefits im a working mother and always worked from the age of 16
Ps and I do nails from home as well :)
[quote][p][bold]Vange girl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: Vange Girl: "Just so u know yes I cant spell ,so what shoot me lol grow up plz I can comment as much as I like so what if I spell things wrong I cant help that!!!!! And yes I do have a dog 15mths" but you can help it...evening classes, or a course of some sort its never too late to learn it would cost mind you but if you can afford a dog inc all the running costs then maybe you have some for a learning course too. Just a thought.[/p][/quote]I work and have a five year old son ,so thats how I can afford it im not on benefits im a working mother and always worked from the age of 16[/p][/quote]Ps and I do nails from home as well :) Vange girl

2:53pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Rochford Rob says...

exBillericayDicky wrote:
Rochford Rob wrote:
exBillericayDicky wrote:
Rochford Rob wrote:
Vange girl wrote:
Rochford Rob wrote:
Vange girl wrote: U hear abour more murders ,abuse rapes and attacks from human kind then u do about dog attacks- mussel all human kind then - I rest my case
No rapes or murders reported here recently, plenty of dog attacks though. Mussel? What, like Moules marinières??
U want to take **** coz I spelt sank wrong the shame on u
Sorry? Would you please repeat that please? In English. Thank you so much. Sank? Are you on boat? I think the shame is upon you and whoever is /was responsible for your (lack of) education. Tell me, do you have one of these aggressive sh*t-machines? You do don't you. All the signs are there.
Prat!, have you never heard of dyslexia? I'm not saying Vange girl has it? and so what if she has? Do you feel a big man for picking on someone for how they type on a message board?
I expect someone who makes comments on a message board to do so in a way that most of us can understand it. ESPECIALLY if those comments are aimed at me. Now then, who rattled your cage? I wonder if she's pleased that you've just labelled her as dyslexic? I don't suppose that is the case though - thick and lazy maybe. I see you aimed an ad hominem at me too.Oh, the irony. You, like her, really should try harder. 4/10.
Who rattled my cage? you did. As I asked, do you feel like a big man for picking on someone who, (as i said MAY be dyslexic - never said she was) doesn't type as you would expect? English is a varied language made up from many facets, that you could actually understand what had been written, but still abused the lass says a lot. Which form of ad hominen have I used against you, there are many. You should try harder 0/10
I haven't abused anyone, just challenged their spelling, grammar, syntax etc.

Whereas you, the keyboard warrior have thrown insults about.

What are you going to do next, invite me for a fight?

To her credit, VG seems to be able to hold her own without your intervention.

Now then, wind your neck in and mind your own business.

There's a good boy.
[quote][p][bold]exBillericayDicky[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rochford Rob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]exBillericayDicky[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rochford Rob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vange girl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rochford Rob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vange girl[/bold] wrote: U hear abour more murders ,abuse rapes and attacks from human kind then u do about dog attacks- mussel all human kind then - I rest my case[/p][/quote]No rapes or murders reported here recently, plenty of dog attacks though. Mussel? What, like Moules marinières??[/p][/quote]U want to take **** coz I spelt sank wrong the shame on u[/p][/quote]Sorry? Would you please repeat that please? In English. Thank you so much. Sank? Are you on boat? I think the shame is upon you and whoever is /was responsible for your (lack of) education. Tell me, do you have one of these aggressive sh*t-machines? You do don't you. All the signs are there.[/p][/quote]Prat!, have you never heard of dyslexia? I'm not saying Vange girl has it? and so what if she has? Do you feel a big man for picking on someone for how they type on a message board?[/p][/quote]I expect someone who makes comments on a message board to do so in a way that most of us can understand it. ESPECIALLY if those comments are aimed at me. Now then, who rattled your cage? I wonder if she's pleased that you've just labelled her as dyslexic? I don't suppose that is the case though - thick and lazy maybe. I see you aimed an ad hominem at me too.Oh, the irony. You, like her, really should try harder. 4/10.[/p][/quote]Who rattled my cage? you did. As I asked, do you feel like a big man for picking on someone who, (as i said MAY be dyslexic - never said she was) doesn't type as you would expect? English is a varied language made up from many facets, that you could actually understand what had been written, but still abused the lass says a lot. Which form of ad hominen have I used against you, there are many. You should try harder 0/10[/p][/quote]I haven't abused anyone, just challenged their spelling, grammar, syntax etc. Whereas you, the keyboard warrior have thrown insults about. What are you going to do next, invite me for a fight? To her credit, VG seems to be able to hold her own without your intervention. Now then, wind your neck in and mind your own business. There's a good boy. Rochford Rob

3:10pm Wed 11 Dec 13

John T Pharro says...

Tom from Southend wrote:
Caz2210 wrote:
So many dog haters, this country used to be pet mad! Dogs save life's, assist the police, fire brigade, blind people and on and on and on.... All through training. When will the anti dog brigade appreciate that dogs can be trained, just like humans. If someone has horrible thieving kids everyone blames the parents, rightly so. So how comes so few of you on here can't grasp the saying 'don't blame the dog, blame the owner' and blame the breed instead, so naive to think like that!
Ridiculous comment..Staffies don't save peoples lives and they don't make blind dogs.
They would if they bit the other dog in the eyes. I know what you meant meaning they don't make good guide dogs for blind people. Just trying to lighten this a bit.
Bottom line is you can never convince anyone who has a staffie that the dog could possible turn on another dog or person because of it's inborn temperament and is entirely due to any other reason except that.
[quote][p][bold]Tom from Southend[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Caz2210[/bold] wrote: So many dog haters, this country used to be pet mad! Dogs save life's, assist the police, fire brigade, blind people and on and on and on.... All through training. When will the anti dog brigade appreciate that dogs can be trained, just like humans. If someone has horrible thieving kids everyone blames the parents, rightly so. So how comes so few of you on here can't grasp the saying 'don't blame the dog, blame the owner' and blame the breed instead, so naive to think like that![/p][/quote]Ridiculous comment..Staffies don't save peoples lives and they don't make blind dogs.[/p][/quote]They would if they bit the other dog in the eyes. I know what you meant meaning they don't make good guide dogs for blind people. Just trying to lighten this a bit. Bottom line is you can never convince anyone who has a staffie that the dog could possible turn on another dog or person because of it's inborn temperament and is entirely due to any other reason except that. John T Pharro

3:15pm Wed 11 Dec 13

exBillericayDicky says...

Rochford Rob wrote:
exBillericayDicky wrote:
Rochford Rob wrote:
exBillericayDicky wrote:
Rochford Rob wrote:
Vange girl wrote:
Rochford Rob wrote:
Vange girl wrote: U hear abour more murders ,abuse rapes and attacks from human kind then u do about dog attacks- mussel all human kind then - I rest my case
No rapes or murders reported here recently, plenty of dog attacks though. Mussel? What, like Moules marinières??
U want to take **** coz I spelt sank wrong the shame on u
Sorry? Would you please repeat that please? In English. Thank you so much. Sank? Are you on boat? I think the shame is upon you and whoever is /was responsible for your (lack of) education. Tell me, do you have one of these aggressive sh*t-machines? You do don't you. All the signs are there.
Prat!, have you never heard of dyslexia? I'm not saying Vange girl has it? and so what if she has? Do you feel a big man for picking on someone for how they type on a message board?
I expect someone who makes comments on a message board to do so in a way that most of us can understand it. ESPECIALLY if those comments are aimed at me. Now then, who rattled your cage? I wonder if she's pleased that you've just labelled her as dyslexic? I don't suppose that is the case though - thick and lazy maybe. I see you aimed an ad hominem at me too.Oh, the irony. You, like her, really should try harder. 4/10.
Who rattled my cage? you did. As I asked, do you feel like a big man for picking on someone who, (as i said MAY be dyslexic - never said she was) doesn't type as you would expect? English is a varied language made up from many facets, that you could actually understand what had been written, but still abused the lass says a lot. Which form of ad hominen have I used against you, there are many. You should try harder 0/10
I haven't abused anyone, just challenged their spelling, grammar, syntax etc. Whereas you, the keyboard warrior have thrown insults about. What are you going to do next, invite me for a fight? To her credit, VG seems to be able to hold her own without your intervention. Now then, wind your neck in and mind your own business. There's a good boy.
I'm not a keyboard warrior, but I will stand up for someone I see as being bullied. You called Vange girl "Thick and lazy" that is verbal abuse by any definition.
"invite me a fight" ? I have made no overtures of a physical nature, but as that is how you seem to think, I would suggest that you are the "warrior"
Yes VG, as you call her, is standing her ground, but the "Thank you" addressed to me earlier means she must be grateful for someone in her corner. Now, why don't you stop being patronising, wind your neck in and put a muzzle on.
[quote][p][bold]Rochford Rob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]exBillericayDicky[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rochford Rob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]exBillericayDicky[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rochford Rob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vange girl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rochford Rob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vange girl[/bold] wrote: U hear abour more murders ,abuse rapes and attacks from human kind then u do about dog attacks- mussel all human kind then - I rest my case[/p][/quote]No rapes or murders reported here recently, plenty of dog attacks though. Mussel? What, like Moules marinières??[/p][/quote]U want to take **** coz I spelt sank wrong the shame on u[/p][/quote]Sorry? Would you please repeat that please? In English. Thank you so much. Sank? Are you on boat? I think the shame is upon you and whoever is /was responsible for your (lack of) education. Tell me, do you have one of these aggressive sh*t-machines? You do don't you. All the signs are there.[/p][/quote]Prat!, have you never heard of dyslexia? I'm not saying Vange girl has it? and so what if she has? Do you feel a big man for picking on someone for how they type on a message board?[/p][/quote]I expect someone who makes comments on a message board to do so in a way that most of us can understand it. ESPECIALLY if those comments are aimed at me. Now then, who rattled your cage? I wonder if she's pleased that you've just labelled her as dyslexic? I don't suppose that is the case though - thick and lazy maybe. I see you aimed an ad hominem at me too.Oh, the irony. You, like her, really should try harder. 4/10.[/p][/quote]Who rattled my cage? you did. As I asked, do you feel like a big man for picking on someone who, (as i said MAY be dyslexic - never said she was) doesn't type as you would expect? English is a varied language made up from many facets, that you could actually understand what had been written, but still abused the lass says a lot. Which form of ad hominen have I used against you, there are many. You should try harder 0/10[/p][/quote]I haven't abused anyone, just challenged their spelling, grammar, syntax etc. Whereas you, the keyboard warrior have thrown insults about. What are you going to do next, invite me for a fight? To her credit, VG seems to be able to hold her own without your intervention. Now then, wind your neck in and mind your own business. There's a good boy.[/p][/quote]I'm not a keyboard warrior, but I will stand up for someone I see as being bullied. You called Vange girl "Thick and lazy" that is verbal abuse by any definition. "invite me a fight" ? I have made no overtures of a physical nature, but as that is how you seem to think, I would suggest that you are the "warrior" Yes VG, as you call her, is standing her ground, but the "Thank you" addressed to me earlier means she must be grateful for someone in her corner. Now, why don't you stop being patronising, wind your neck in and put a muzzle on. exBillericayDicky

3:45pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Vange girl says...

exBillericayDicky wrote:
Rochford Rob wrote:
exBillericayDicky wrote:
Rochford Rob wrote:
exBillericayDicky wrote:
Rochford Rob wrote:
Vange girl wrote:
Rochford Rob wrote:
Vange girl wrote: U hear abour more murders ,abuse rapes and attacks from human kind then u do about dog attacks- mussel all human kind then - I rest my case
No rapes or murders reported here recently, plenty of dog attacks though. Mussel? What, like Moules marinières??
U want to take **** coz I spelt sank wrong the shame on u
Sorry? Would you please repeat that please? In English. Thank you so much. Sank? Are you on boat? I think the shame is upon you and whoever is /was responsible for your (lack of) education. Tell me, do you have one of these aggressive sh*t-machines? You do don't you. All the signs are there.
Prat!, have you never heard of dyslexia? I'm not saying Vange girl has it? and so what if she has? Do you feel a big man for picking on someone for how they type on a message board?
I expect someone who makes comments on a message board to do so in a way that most of us can understand it. ESPECIALLY if those comments are aimed at me. Now then, who rattled your cage? I wonder if she's pleased that you've just labelled her as dyslexic? I don't suppose that is the case though - thick and lazy maybe. I see you aimed an ad hominem at me too.Oh, the irony. You, like her, really should try harder. 4/10.
Who rattled my cage? you did. As I asked, do you feel like a big man for picking on someone who, (as i said MAY be dyslexic - never said she was) doesn't type as you would expect? English is a varied language made up from many facets, that you could actually understand what had been written, but still abused the lass says a lot. Which form of ad hominen have I used against you, there are many. You should try harder 0/10
I haven't abused anyone, just challenged their spelling, grammar, syntax etc. Whereas you, the keyboard warrior have thrown insults about. What are you going to do next, invite me for a fight? To her credit, VG seems to be able to hold her own without your intervention. Now then, wind your neck in and mind your own business. There's a good boy.
I'm not a keyboard warrior, but I will stand up for someone I see as being bullied. You called Vange girl "Thick and lazy" that is verbal abuse by any definition. "invite me a fight" ? I have made no overtures of a physical nature, but as that is how you seem to think, I would suggest that you are the "warrior" Yes VG, as you call her, is standing her ground, but the "Thank you" addressed to me earlier means she must be grateful for someone in her corner. Now, why don't you stop being patronising, wind your neck in and put a muzzle on.
Im not lazy at all I work and work from home doing nails iv worked since the age of 16 and I have a son and still working im not on benefits I WORK -


Thank you again for being nice
[quote][p][bold]exBillericayDicky[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rochford Rob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]exBillericayDicky[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rochford Rob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]exBillericayDicky[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rochford Rob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vange girl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rochford Rob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vange girl[/bold] wrote: U hear abour more murders ,abuse rapes and attacks from human kind then u do about dog attacks- mussel all human kind then - I rest my case[/p][/quote]No rapes or murders reported here recently, plenty of dog attacks though. Mussel? What, like Moules marinières??[/p][/quote]U want to take **** coz I spelt sank wrong the shame on u[/p][/quote]Sorry? Would you please repeat that please? In English. Thank you so much. Sank? Are you on boat? I think the shame is upon you and whoever is /was responsible for your (lack of) education. Tell me, do you have one of these aggressive sh*t-machines? You do don't you. All the signs are there.[/p][/quote]Prat!, have you never heard of dyslexia? I'm not saying Vange girl has it? and so what if she has? Do you feel a big man for picking on someone for how they type on a message board?[/p][/quote]I expect someone who makes comments on a message board to do so in a way that most of us can understand it. ESPECIALLY if those comments are aimed at me. Now then, who rattled your cage? I wonder if she's pleased that you've just labelled her as dyslexic? I don't suppose that is the case though - thick and lazy maybe. I see you aimed an ad hominem at me too.Oh, the irony. You, like her, really should try harder. 4/10.[/p][/quote]Who rattled my cage? you did. As I asked, do you feel like a big man for picking on someone who, (as i said MAY be dyslexic - never said she was) doesn't type as you would expect? English is a varied language made up from many facets, that you could actually understand what had been written, but still abused the lass says a lot. Which form of ad hominen have I used against you, there are many. You should try harder 0/10[/p][/quote]I haven't abused anyone, just challenged their spelling, grammar, syntax etc. Whereas you, the keyboard warrior have thrown insults about. What are you going to do next, invite me for a fight? To her credit, VG seems to be able to hold her own without your intervention. Now then, wind your neck in and mind your own business. There's a good boy.[/p][/quote]I'm not a keyboard warrior, but I will stand up for someone I see as being bullied. You called Vange girl "Thick and lazy" that is verbal abuse by any definition. "invite me a fight" ? I have made no overtures of a physical nature, but as that is how you seem to think, I would suggest that you are the "warrior" Yes VG, as you call her, is standing her ground, but the "Thank you" addressed to me earlier means she must be grateful for someone in her corner. Now, why don't you stop being patronising, wind your neck in and put a muzzle on.[/p][/quote]Im not lazy at all I work and work from home doing nails iv worked since the age of 16 and I have a son and still working im not on benefits I WORK - Thank you again for being nice Vange girl

3:50pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Rochford Rob says...

I questioned whether she was 'thick and lazy' - hence the use of the word immediately after - 'maybe'

Why don't you be quiet pipsqueak. You've said your bit now get over yourself.

It appears she needs no help from you.

You're not Lastlaugh by any chance are you?

Similar 'modus operandi'

Patronising? Moi?

Do you read what you write?

It appears not.

'Bullied' ?? yeah, right. Send her a hiz viz jacket and hard hat whilst you're at it.

Pathetic.

BTW verbal abuse is 'spoken' Did you mean 'written'

Another fail.

-10/10 Must try much harder.
I questioned whether she was 'thick and lazy' - hence the use of the word immediately after - 'maybe' Why don't you be quiet pipsqueak. You've said your bit now get over yourself. It appears she needs no help from you. You're not Lastlaugh by any chance are you? Similar 'modus operandi' Patronising? Moi? Do you read what you write? It appears not. 'Bullied' ?? yeah, right. Send her a hiz viz jacket and hard hat whilst you're at it. Pathetic. BTW verbal abuse is 'spoken' Did you mean 'written' Another fail. -10/10 Must try much harder. Rochford Rob

3:57pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Vange girl says...

Rochford Rob wrote:
I questioned whether she was 'thick and lazy' - hence the use of the word immediately after - 'maybe' Why don't you be quiet pipsqueak. You've said your bit now get over yourself. It appears she needs no help from you. You're not Lastlaugh by any chance are you? Similar 'modus operandi' Patronising? Moi? Do you read what you write? It appears not. 'Bullied' ?? yeah, right. Send her a hiz viz jacket and hard hat whilst you're at it. Pathetic. BTW verbal abuse is 'spoken' Did you mean 'written' Another fail. -10/10 Must try much harder.
Y are you being so nasty??? Iv not insulated u atall!!! Im not lazy one little bit like I said,I work still do ,have son who's 5 single mother ,do two jobs and not on benefits ,im sorry if I cant spell or write ,but in happy with my life
[quote][p][bold]Rochford Rob[/bold] wrote: I questioned whether she was 'thick and lazy' - hence the use of the word immediately after - 'maybe' Why don't you be quiet pipsqueak. You've said your bit now get over yourself. It appears she needs no help from you. You're not Lastlaugh by any chance are you? Similar 'modus operandi' Patronising? Moi? Do you read what you write? It appears not. 'Bullied' ?? yeah, right. Send her a hiz viz jacket and hard hat whilst you're at it. Pathetic. BTW verbal abuse is 'spoken' Did you mean 'written' Another fail. -10/10 Must try much harder.[/p][/quote]Y are you being so nasty??? Iv not insulated u atall!!! Im not lazy one little bit like I said,I work still do ,have son who's 5 single mother ,do two jobs and not on benefits ,im sorry if I cant spell or write ,but in happy with my life Vange girl

4:05pm Wed 11 Dec 13

exBillericayDicky says...

You made a statement, adding "maybe" doesn't alter that an insult was made.

pipsqueak? why thankyou, such eloquent name calling. Now, toddle off to mummy and ask her to put you to bed, all this must be rather taxing for you and you need to have your nap.

And you've said your bit, so instead of this being a continuation of a tit for tat, my final words. TTFN
You made a statement, adding "maybe" doesn't alter that an insult was made. pipsqueak? why thankyou, such eloquent name calling. Now, toddle off to mummy and ask her to put you to bed, all this must be rather taxing for you and you need to have your nap. And you've said your bit, so instead of this being a continuation of a tit for tat, my final words. TTFN exBillericayDicky

4:17pm Wed 11 Dec 13

lucyg07 says...

All dogs should be muzzled or kept on a leash in public areas. Just like humans they can snap at any time but they just can't tell us. Twice in the past week I've had a 'dangerous dog' as i call them, come up to me and jump up at me. I am quite scared of dogs and it has quite frightend me.

There would be very few attacks if they were kept on a leash/muzzle.
There should be a law to say that one of these should apply and that a fine be given if someone is breaking the law. - personal opinion
All dogs should be muzzled or kept on a leash in public areas. Just like humans they can snap at any time but they just can't tell us. Twice in the past week I've had a 'dangerous dog' as i call them, come up to me and jump up at me. I am quite scared of dogs and it has quite frightend me. There would be very few attacks if they were kept on a leash/muzzle. There should be a law to say that one of these should apply and that a fine be given if someone is breaking the law. - personal opinion lucyg07

4:26pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Rochford Rob says...

"Y are you being so nasty??? Iv not insulated u atall!!! Im not lazy one little bit like I said,I work still do ,have son who's 5 single mother ,do two jobs and not on benefits ,im sorry if I cant spell or write ,but in happy with my life
"

Good for you, well done. I mean that.

My comment about being lazy was in regard to your spelling and grammar, nothing more, well, not until Bill & Dicky chirped up, labelled you dyslexic and didn't like it once challenged.

He called me a prat, I called him a pipsqueak and he threw his rattle out of the pram.

He's gone now as he hasn't a leg to stand on.
"Y are you being so nasty??? Iv not insulated u atall!!! Im not lazy one little bit like I said,I work still do ,have son who's 5 single mother ,do two jobs and not on benefits ,im sorry if I cant spell or write ,but in happy with my life " Good for you, well done. I mean that. My comment about being lazy was in regard to your spelling and grammar, nothing more, well, not until Bill & Dicky chirped up, labelled you dyslexic and didn't like it once challenged. He called me a prat, I called him a pipsqueak and he threw his rattle out of the pram. He's gone now as he hasn't a leg to stand on. Rochford Rob

4:55pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Vange girl says...

Rochford Rob wrote:
"Y are you being so nasty??? Iv not insulated u atall!!! Im not lazy one little bit like I said,I work still do ,have son who's 5 single mother ,do two jobs and not on benefits ,im sorry if I cant spell or write ,but in happy with my life " Good for you, well done. I mean that. My comment about being lazy was in regard to your spelling and grammar, nothing more, well, not until Bill & Dicky chirped up, labelled you dyslexic and didn't like it once challenged. He called me a prat, I called him a pipsqueak and he threw his rattle out of the pram. He's gone now as he hasn't a leg to stand on.
I have problems reading writing and spelling u should never make fun of me! Im doing well for myself and my son , with what I do
[quote][p][bold]Rochford Rob[/bold] wrote: "Y are you being so nasty??? Iv not insulated u atall!!! Im not lazy one little bit like I said,I work still do ,have son who's 5 single mother ,do two jobs and not on benefits ,im sorry if I cant spell or write ,but in happy with my life " Good for you, well done. I mean that. My comment about being lazy was in regard to your spelling and grammar, nothing more, well, not until Bill & Dicky chirped up, labelled you dyslexic and didn't like it once challenged. He called me a prat, I called him a pipsqueak and he threw his rattle out of the pram. He's gone now as he hasn't a leg to stand on.[/p][/quote]I have problems reading writing and spelling u should never make fun of me! Im doing well for myself and my son , with what I do Vange girl

4:57pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Illinois10 says...

Rochford Rob wrote:
Muzzle both ends.

Sorted.

Am sure the lady in Leeds opined her dogs 'wouldn't hurt a fly'

Why people need this sh*t machines in the first place, Lord only knows.

OK if you have sufficient land of your own on which to exercise them, but most seem to be in two up two down terraces and are taken out to cr@p in public places.
So why dont people muzzle babies both ends? they scream in confined public places (buses trains etc) and cra*p, not to mention that some parents throw used nappies in public parks, to me that is more disgusting and lazy than seeing dog poo left.
[quote][p][bold]Rochford Rob[/bold] wrote: Muzzle both ends. Sorted. Am sure the lady in Leeds opined her dogs 'wouldn't hurt a fly' Why people need this sh*t machines in the first place, Lord only knows. OK if you have sufficient land of your own on which to exercise them, but most seem to be in two up two down terraces and are taken out to cr@p in public places.[/p][/quote]So why dont people muzzle babies both ends? they scream in confined public places (buses trains etc) and cra*p, not to mention that some parents throw used nappies in public parks, to me that is more disgusting and lazy than seeing dog poo left. Illinois10

5:59pm Wed 11 Dec 13

John T Pharro says...

Vange girl wrote:
Rochford Rob wrote:
"Y are you being so nasty??? Iv not insulated u atall!!! Im not lazy one little bit like I said,I work still do ,have son who's 5 single mother ,do two jobs and not on benefits ,im sorry if I cant spell or write ,but in happy with my life " Good for you, well done. I mean that. My comment about being lazy was in regard to your spelling and grammar, nothing more, well, not until Bill & Dicky chirped up, labelled you dyslexic and didn't like it once challenged. He called me a prat, I called him a pipsqueak and he threw his rattle out of the pram. He's gone now as he hasn't a leg to stand on.
I have problems reading writing and spelling u should never make fun of me! Im doing well for myself and my son , with what I do
I don't share your views about the dogs, but good luck to you for having the courage to admit you have problems reading and writing, but still having a go. Believe you me if it is dyslexia I have first hand experience with how difficult that can be with close family so know how quickly you can be labelled lazy or stupid. My 13 year old granddaughter is dyslexic, but puts together Ikea flat packs with no problem whilst I am useless at it.
[quote][p][bold]Vange girl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rochford Rob[/bold] wrote: "Y are you being so nasty??? Iv not insulated u atall!!! Im not lazy one little bit like I said,I work still do ,have son who's 5 single mother ,do two jobs and not on benefits ,im sorry if I cant spell or write ,but in happy with my life " Good for you, well done. I mean that. My comment about being lazy was in regard to your spelling and grammar, nothing more, well, not until Bill & Dicky chirped up, labelled you dyslexic and didn't like it once challenged. He called me a prat, I called him a pipsqueak and he threw his rattle out of the pram. He's gone now as he hasn't a leg to stand on.[/p][/quote]I have problems reading writing and spelling u should never make fun of me! Im doing well for myself and my son , with what I do[/p][/quote]I don't share your views about the dogs, but good luck to you for having the courage to admit you have problems reading and writing, but still having a go. Believe you me if it is dyslexia I have first hand experience with how difficult that can be with close family so know how quickly you can be labelled lazy or stupid. My 13 year old granddaughter is dyslexic, but puts together Ikea flat packs with no problem whilst I am useless at it. John T Pharro

7:13pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Nowthatsworthknowing says...

The trouble with a very small dog, is that it can look like "Game" to such a predatory breed, especially if the smaller one was yappy.
The trouble with a very small dog, is that it can look like "Game" to such a predatory breed, especially if the smaller one was yappy. Nowthatsworthknowing

7:44pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Rochford Rob says...

Illinois10 wrote:
Rochford Rob wrote:
Muzzle both ends.

Sorted.

Am sure the lady in Leeds opined her dogs 'wouldn't hurt a fly'

Why people need this sh*t machines in the first place, Lord only knows.

OK if you have sufficient land of your own on which to exercise them, but most seem to be in two up two down terraces and are taken out to cr@p in public places.
So why dont people muzzle babies both ends? they scream in confined public places (buses trains etc) and cra*p, not to mention that some parents throw used nappies in public parks, to me that is more disgusting and lazy than seeing dog poo left.
You ever been bitten by a vicious baby or stepped in their cr@p in the park?

No, me neither.

What is it here today - 'trick or treat' ???
[quote][p][bold]Illinois10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rochford Rob[/bold] wrote: Muzzle both ends. Sorted. Am sure the lady in Leeds opined her dogs 'wouldn't hurt a fly' Why people need this sh*t machines in the first place, Lord only knows. OK if you have sufficient land of your own on which to exercise them, but most seem to be in two up two down terraces and are taken out to cr@p in public places.[/p][/quote]So why dont people muzzle babies both ends? they scream in confined public places (buses trains etc) and cra*p, not to mention that some parents throw used nappies in public parks, to me that is more disgusting and lazy than seeing dog poo left.[/p][/quote]You ever been bitten by a vicious baby or stepped in their cr@p in the park? No, me neither. What is it here today - 'trick or treat' ??? Rochford Rob

7:46pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Rochford Rob says...

I have problems reading writing and spelling u should never make fun of me! Im doing well for myself and my son , with what I do

Yes, you explained. And for the last time, I never made fun of you at all. I asked a question (albeit bluntly) a different thing altogether.
I have problems reading writing and spelling u should never make fun of me! Im doing well for myself and my son , with what I do Yes, you explained. And for the last time, I never made fun of you at all. I asked a question (albeit bluntly) a different thing altogether. Rochford Rob

7:53pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Illinois10 says...

Rochford Rob wrote:
Illinois10 wrote:
Rochford Rob wrote:
Muzzle both ends.

Sorted.

Am sure the lady in Leeds opined her dogs 'wouldn't hurt a fly'

Why people need this sh*t machines in the first place, Lord only knows.

OK if you have sufficient land of your own on which to exercise them, but most seem to be in two up two down terraces and are taken out to cr@p in public places.
So why dont people muzzle babies both ends? they scream in confined public places (buses trains etc) and cra*p, not to mention that some parents throw used nappies in public parks, to me that is more disgusting and lazy than seeing dog poo left.
You ever been bitten by a vicious baby or stepped in their cr@p in the park?

No, me neither.

What is it here today - 'trick or treat' ???
obviously not, but its the children who get brought up thinking its ok to abuse animals and create them into aggressive dogs....
[quote][p][bold]Rochford Rob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Illinois10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rochford Rob[/bold] wrote: Muzzle both ends. Sorted. Am sure the lady in Leeds opined her dogs 'wouldn't hurt a fly' Why people need this sh*t machines in the first place, Lord only knows. OK if you have sufficient land of your own on which to exercise them, but most seem to be in two up two down terraces and are taken out to cr@p in public places.[/p][/quote]So why dont people muzzle babies both ends? they scream in confined public places (buses trains etc) and cra*p, not to mention that some parents throw used nappies in public parks, to me that is more disgusting and lazy than seeing dog poo left.[/p][/quote]You ever been bitten by a vicious baby or stepped in their cr@p in the park? No, me neither. What is it here today - 'trick or treat' ???[/p][/quote]obviously not, but its the children who get brought up thinking its ok to abuse animals and create them into aggressive dogs.... Illinois10

8:55pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Caz2210 says...

Oh dear, how boring lol!
Oh dear, how boring lol! Caz2210

9:39pm Wed 11 Dec 13

DogsMessInLeigh says...

LynR 99 wrote:
Southend Andy wrote:
All dogs should be muzzled in public no matter of breed.
So should mankind then...stop the rapes, murder and torture that is carried out by the shed load each and every day! I would feel safer in a house full of dogs than I would 'out in public' in certain parts of this world!
tell that to the pregnant woman in Leeds.
[quote][p][bold]LynR 99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Southend Andy[/bold] wrote: All dogs should be muzzled in public no matter of breed.[/p][/quote]So should mankind then...stop the rapes, murder and torture that is carried out by the shed load each and every day! I would feel safer in a house full of dogs than I would 'out in public' in certain parts of this world![/p][/quote]tell that to the pregnant woman in Leeds. DogsMessInLeigh

12:34am Thu 12 Dec 13

Kursaal76 says...

John T Pharro wrote:
Tom from Southend wrote:
Caz2210 wrote:
So many dog haters, this country used to be pet mad! Dogs save life's, assist the police, fire brigade, blind people and on and on and on.... All through training. When will the anti dog brigade appreciate that dogs can be trained, just like humans. If someone has horrible thieving kids everyone blames the parents, rightly so. So how comes so few of you on here can't grasp the saying 'don't blame the dog, blame the owner' and blame the breed instead, so naive to think like that!
Ridiculous comment..Staffies don't save peoples lives and they don't make blind dogs.
They would if they bit the other dog in the eyes. I know what you meant meaning they don't make good guide dogs for blind people. Just trying to lighten this a bit.
Bottom line is you can never convince anyone who has a staffie that the dog could possible turn on another dog or person because of it's inborn temperament and is entirely due to any other reason except that.
Staffies are used for police dogs and for the blind think you need to read up abit on staffies before you comment. You dont need to convince good staffie owners anything. my dog is always on a lead. He is a very good dog but like any dog it should never be trusted specially since they will do damage. I was attacked when I was a kid by a boxer so I know even the gentle dogs can have a bad day. Also these owners with the stupid yappy dogs need to learn to keep the dogs quiet and aslo kee them under controlled. Luckily my dog taks no notice of any other dog.
[quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tom from Southend[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Caz2210[/bold] wrote: So many dog haters, this country used to be pet mad! Dogs save life's, assist the police, fire brigade, blind people and on and on and on.... All through training. When will the anti dog brigade appreciate that dogs can be trained, just like humans. If someone has horrible thieving kids everyone blames the parents, rightly so. So how comes so few of you on here can't grasp the saying 'don't blame the dog, blame the owner' and blame the breed instead, so naive to think like that![/p][/quote]Ridiculous comment..Staffies don't save peoples lives and they don't make blind dogs.[/p][/quote]They would if they bit the other dog in the eyes. I know what you meant meaning they don't make good guide dogs for blind people. Just trying to lighten this a bit. Bottom line is you can never convince anyone who has a staffie that the dog could possible turn on another dog or person because of it's inborn temperament and is entirely due to any other reason except that.[/p][/quote]Staffies are used for police dogs and for the blind think you need to read up abit on staffies before you comment. You dont need to convince good staffie owners anything. my dog is always on a lead. He is a very good dog but like any dog it should never be trusted specially since they will do damage. I was attacked when I was a kid by a boxer so I know even the gentle dogs can have a bad day. Also these owners with the stupid yappy dogs need to learn to keep the dogs quiet and aslo kee them under controlled. Luckily my dog taks no notice of any other dog. Kursaal76

6:44am Thu 12 Dec 13

ColonelSpiffSpaff says...

More people are killed by illegal immigrants than dogs. Fact.
More people are killed by illegal immigrants than dogs. Fact. ColonelSpiffSpaff

12:16pm Thu 12 Dec 13

Fred the Phoenix says...

angryofessex wrote:
Vange girl wrote:
U hear abour more murders ,abuse rapes and attacks from human kind then u do about dog attacks- mussel all human kind then - I rest my case
Just why do you, sorry U people want to own these type of animals.
My thoughts exactly. Why would anyone in their right mind want to own an animal that is capable of killing a child? I say muzzle all dogs in public.
[quote][p][bold]angryofessex[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vange girl[/bold] wrote: U hear abour more murders ,abuse rapes and attacks from human kind then u do about dog attacks- mussel all human kind then - I rest my case[/p][/quote]Just why do you, sorry U people want to own these type of animals.[/p][/quote]My thoughts exactly. Why would anyone in their right mind want to own an animal that is capable of killing a child? I say muzzle all dogs in public. Fred the Phoenix

7:29pm Thu 12 Dec 13

AuntieTracy says...

Test Tickle wrote:
Any dog regardless of size or breed or however well it has been raised and trained is capable of attacking another dog, child or adult given the wrong circumstances, all too often we hear “My dog would not bite anyone” the fact is you just never know.

It has even been know for Police dogs to attack out of character, and they are probably the most well trained dogs you will come across!

As stated in posts above the only way to ensure dog attacks don’t happen is to muzzle all dogs regardless of size/breed etc.

I also get fed up with seeing people letting their dogs run loose up and down the street barking at people and crapping everywhere, we are not all dog lovers and some people are even scared of them.
Agree 100% after being allergic to dogs, I am now terrified of them. When they are running loose I focus more on where the dog is going than other things going on because I panic, I have nearly been run over a time or two. Dogs should at the least ALWAYS be on a lead in any public place regardless of 'how good your dog is' it avoids most of these issues and of course the 'I didn't even know he'd done a poo' answers.

Dog Licences should be in place, in fact any animal/pet should require a licence, to make sure that scumbag owners don't get to ruin a dogs life, and to make sure they know how to treat and look after animals properly.
[quote][p][bold]Test Tickle[/bold] wrote: Any dog regardless of size or breed or however well it has been raised and trained is capable of attacking another dog, child or adult given the wrong circumstances, all too often we hear “My dog would not bite anyone” the fact is you just never know. It has even been know for Police dogs to attack out of character, and they are probably the most well trained dogs you will come across! As stated in posts above the only way to ensure dog attacks don’t happen is to muzzle all dogs regardless of size/breed etc. I also get fed up with seeing people letting their dogs run loose up and down the street barking at people and crapping everywhere, we are not all dog lovers and some people are even scared of them.[/p][/quote]Agree 100% after being allergic to dogs, I am now terrified of them. When they are running loose I focus more on where the dog is going than other things going on because I panic, I have nearly been run over a time or two. Dogs should at the least ALWAYS be on a lead in any public place regardless of 'how good your dog is' it avoids most of these issues and of course the 'I didn't even know he'd done a poo' answers. Dog Licences should be in place, in fact any animal/pet should require a licence, to make sure that scumbag owners don't get to ruin a dogs life, and to make sure they know how to treat and look after animals properly. AuntieTracy

7:36pm Thu 12 Dec 13

AuntieTracy says...

Southend Andy wrote:
Bring back the dog license, the money raised from that could pay for a dog warden & a dogs only park, where dog owners are allowed to let there dog run free & are responsible for clearing up after them.
Agree 100%
[quote][p][bold]Southend Andy[/bold] wrote: Bring back the dog license, the money raised from that could pay for a dog warden & a dogs only park, where dog owners are allowed to let there dog run free & are responsible for clearing up after them.[/p][/quote]Agree 100% AuntieTracy

3:03am Fri 13 Dec 13

Illinois10 says...

AuntieTracy wrote:
Test Tickle wrote:
Any dog regardless of size or breed or however well it has been raised and trained is capable of attacking another dog, child or adult given the wrong circumstances, all too often we hear “My dog would not bite anyone” the fact is you just never know.

It has even been know for Police dogs to attack out of character, and they are probably the most well trained dogs you will come across!

As stated in posts above the only way to ensure dog attacks don’t happen is to muzzle all dogs regardless of size/breed etc.

I also get fed up with seeing people letting their dogs run loose up and down the street barking at people and crapping everywhere, we are not all dog lovers and some people are even scared of them.
Agree 100% after being allergic to dogs, I am now terrified of them. When they are running loose I focus more on where the dog is going than other things going on because I panic, I have nearly been run over a time or two. Dogs should at the least ALWAYS be on a lead in any public place regardless of 'how good your dog is' it avoids most of these issues and of course the 'I didn't even know he'd done a poo' answers.

Dog Licences should be in place, in fact any animal/pet should require a licence, to make sure that scumbag owners don't get to ruin a dogs life, and to make sure they know how to treat and look after animals properly.
I'm sorry that you have a fear of dogs after what happened. But to keep dogs on leads at all times will be counter productive, they need to run around in order to loose energy and be able to keep socialised without human emotions being involved.
As for licences, yes that could work, but who would check people have them and what would the consequences be for not having one.
On the flip side, humans should have to have a license in order to have a baby, as we all know some people who we think shouldn't have them.
I find it weird that in England we need a licence to do pretty much anything, watching TV, driving, going abroad, selling alcohol etc....but any fool can bring a human into the world no questions asked if the parents are capable of caring for it etc.
[quote][p][bold]AuntieTracy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Test Tickle[/bold] wrote: Any dog regardless of size or breed or however well it has been raised and trained is capable of attacking another dog, child or adult given the wrong circumstances, all too often we hear “My dog would not bite anyone” the fact is you just never know. It has even been know for Police dogs to attack out of character, and they are probably the most well trained dogs you will come across! As stated in posts above the only way to ensure dog attacks don’t happen is to muzzle all dogs regardless of size/breed etc. I also get fed up with seeing people letting their dogs run loose up and down the street barking at people and crapping everywhere, we are not all dog lovers and some people are even scared of them.[/p][/quote]Agree 100% after being allergic to dogs, I am now terrified of them. When they are running loose I focus more on where the dog is going than other things going on because I panic, I have nearly been run over a time or two. Dogs should at the least ALWAYS be on a lead in any public place regardless of 'how good your dog is' it avoids most of these issues and of course the 'I didn't even know he'd done a poo' answers. Dog Licences should be in place, in fact any animal/pet should require a licence, to make sure that scumbag owners don't get to ruin a dogs life, and to make sure they know how to treat and look after animals properly.[/p][/quote]I'm sorry that you have a fear of dogs after what happened. But to keep dogs on leads at all times will be counter productive, they need to run around in order to loose energy and be able to keep socialised without human emotions being involved. As for licences, yes that could work, but who would check people have them and what would the consequences be for not having one. On the flip side, humans should have to have a license in order to have a baby, as we all know some people who we think shouldn't have them. I find it weird that in England we need a licence to do pretty much anything, watching TV, driving, going abroad, selling alcohol etc....but any fool can bring a human into the world no questions asked if the parents are capable of caring for it etc. Illinois10

1:42pm Fri 13 Dec 13

John T Pharro says...

ColonelSpiffSpaff wrote:
More people are killed by illegal immigrants than dogs. Fact.
And more people are killed on the roads. Fact. So what?
[quote][p][bold]ColonelSpiffSpaff[/bold] wrote: More people are killed by illegal immigrants than dogs. Fact.[/p][/quote]And more people are killed on the roads. Fact. So what? John T Pharro

2:45pm Tue 17 Dec 13

ms walsh says...

Sensible Man wrote:
It always seems to be these horrible Staffordshire Devil Dogs involved in these incidents. They should be banned under the dangerous dogs act.

And what sort of weird person takes these devil dogs out without a lead? Truly unbelievable. And to run away - what a total piece of c rap.
this has got to be coming from someone who has never owned a staffy, and just go on the rubbish you evidently read, try spending time with these so-called 'devil dogs' I rescued my staff 10 years ago which was used as a baiting dog which then cost thousands to put right shes never harmed anyone or ran away infact like most staff owners I know she tens to be docile and is by general census treated right the best breed of dog to have around children. 'sensible man' pft. im 47 back when I was a kid this rubbish was spouted about german shepards, then the Dobermans, then rottys. you silly man probably have never rescued a dog and if I didn't work full-time or my son at uni we would take on many more Staffordshire BULL TERRIERS.
[quote][p][bold]Sensible Man[/bold] wrote: It always seems to be these horrible Staffordshire Devil Dogs involved in these incidents. They should be banned under the dangerous dogs act. And what sort of weird person takes these devil dogs out without a lead? Truly unbelievable. And to run away - what a total piece of c rap.[/p][/quote]this has got to be coming from someone who has never owned a staffy, and just go on the rubbish you evidently read, try spending time with these so-called 'devil dogs' I rescued my staff 10 years ago which was used as a baiting dog which then cost thousands to put right shes never harmed anyone or ran away infact like most staff owners I know she tens to be docile and is by general census treated right the best breed of dog to have around children. 'sensible man' pft. im 47 back when I was a kid this rubbish was spouted about german shepards, then the Dobermans, then rottys. you silly man probably have never rescued a dog and if I didn't work full-time or my son at uni we would take on many more Staffordshire BULL TERRIERS. ms walsh

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