New figures show 10,000 Basildon children live in poverty (From Southend Standard)

No such thing as 'Poverty'

Well it's all to do with the definition applied to the word, in this case they have deemed it to mean "living in a household with a weekly income of less than £251 a week".
Previous definitions of poverty have been "people in the lower 10% income bracket", which means poverty would never bee eradiicated.

I think these days "poverty" is defined by how few of the latest gadgets, technology and designer clobber one has. People classified as in "poverty" in my area drive a better car than mine, smoke 40 fags a day and drink in the pub all afternoon.

I wonder how many of these kids living in so called poverty have the latest mobile phone & sky at home with parents who smoke/drink?

The Stinker Returns wrote:
I think these days "poverty" is defined by how few of the latest gadgets, technology and designer clobber one has. People classified as in "poverty" in my area drive a better car than mine, smoke 40 fags a day and drink in the pub all afternoon.

I agree. I think poverty means if your on benefits. And we all know the wonderful life you can live if you have a few kids while on benefits.

The Stinker Returns wrote:
I think these days "poverty" is defined by how few of the latest gadgets, technology and designer clobber one has. People classified as in "poverty" in my area drive a better car than mine, smoke 40 fags a day and drink in the pub all afternoon.

Thats why they are poor.

Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?

They'll all be sat in front of huge flatscreen tvs

Bluebs wrote:
Well it's all to do with the definition applied to the word, in this case they have deemed it to mean "living in a household with a weekly income of less than £251 a week".
Previous definitions of poverty have been "people in the lower 10% income bracket", which means poverty would never bee eradiicated.

Exactly. If "poverty" is defined as a percentage like that, when households come out of poverty the average will go up, so the level will also go up, so it will be mathematically impossible to get all children out of "poverty"

What wonderful people the Englishmen have evolved into. Kids in poverty? No such animal. All the poster's on here will tell you that everybody receiving living assistance has a 50" 3D flat screen, spend their whole life in pubs etc. etc.

Mein Kampf Ball says: "It's because they are in social housing."

I wonder what this right-wing lollop sees as "Social housing." Does he mean the thousands of Basildon Development Corporation houses or the hundreds of Billericay Urban District Council houses, all of which were built because there were very, very few manual workers that were ever paid enough to even dream about owning their own house. Yes, it was always the dream of the working people to receive a fair days pay for a fair days labour, but this went against the principles of the right-wing. They have lied and cheated via the press, and even the war against France was lied about.
The Labour Party was formed in 1900, and in about 1929 a fabricated letter published by the Daily Mail brought down the Labour Government! (the Daily Mail published the infamous Zinoviev letter, a forgery which alleged there were links between Russian communists and the British Labour Party.) With fervent anti-communism rife at the time, Labour lost 40 seats and the Tories were returned to power.) Yet today the Tories are as misleading as ever. Now it appears there are groups of Tory politicians posting the same kind of letters on forums such as this. Some are using 5 or 6 different names to increase their influence. Just look at the way Ball is conniving by using terms such as "Social Housing" and how the usual suspects leap in to denigrate anybody who is not part of the better off society.
In fact he would do well to point out what effect the moving abroad of most of Basildon worker's jobs has had in Basildon, coupled with the (Desired by the Tories) influx of foreign labour to compete for the few jobs that remain!

Devils Advocate wrote:
What wonderful people the Englishmen have evolved into. Kids in poverty? No such animal. All the poster's on here will tell you that everybody receiving living assistance has a 50" 3D flat screen, spend their whole life in pubs etc. etc.

Mein Kampf Ball says: "It's because they are in social housing."

I wonder what this right-wing lollop sees as "Social housing." Does he mean the thousands of Basildon Development Corporation houses or the hundreds of Billericay Urban District Council houses, all of which were built because there were very, very few manual workers that were ever paid enough to even dream about owning their own house. Yes, it was always the dream of the working people to receive a fair days pay for a fair days labour, but this went against the principles of the right-wing. They have lied and cheated via the press, and even the war against France was lied about.
The Labour Party was formed in 1900, and in about 1929 a fabricated letter published by the Daily Mail brought down the Labour Government! (the Daily Mail published the infamous Zinoviev letter, a forgery which alleged there were links between Russian communists and the British Labour Party.) With fervent anti-communism rife at the time, Labour lost 40 seats and the Tories were returned to power.) Yet today the Tories are as misleading as ever. Now it appears there are groups of Tory politicians posting the same kind of letters on forums such as this. Some are using 5 or 6 different names to increase their influence. Just look at the way Ball is conniving by using terms such as "Social Housing" and how the usual suspects leap in to denigrate anybody who is not part of the better off society.
In fact he would do well to point out what effect the moving abroad of most of Basildon worker's jobs has had in Basildon, coupled with the (Desired by the Tories) influx of foreign labour to compete for the few jobs that remain!

The absence of rebuttal re your post speaks volumes!

look around the area , all the young single parents pushing buggies smoking, wearing expensive trainers, babies in "labelled clothing" poverty I don't think so! or perhaps they get their priorities wrong

WHERE do these people get their ideas from, for crying out loud???

My wife and I have to Exist on One Hundred and Sixty Pounds a week, because according to DWP, the Government say it IS THE LAW, yet I CAN'T get proof from our MP. In fact, she REFUSES to answer me on this.

rayleigh1 wrote:
look around the area , all the young single parents pushing buggies smoking, wearing expensive trainers, babies in "labelled clothing" poverty I don't think so! or perhaps they get their priorities wrong

I smell predjudice.
I would firstly ask how you know "All the young single parents" are in fact single, why their buggies are smoking and what makes you think either their trainers or the babies "labelled clothing" are the real thing.
Furthermore, how do you even know the clothing isn't from a Billericay of Rayleigh Charity shop?Lastly do you know they receive subsistence? Perhaps you know more than you are telling as to how these girls became "Single parents?"