Mother facing court for pulling bullied daughter out of school (From Southend Standard)
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Mother facing court for pulling bullied daughter out of school
1:00pm Thursday 7th March 2013 in Echo News Exclusive By David Trayner
A MOTHER has told how her daughter has become the victim of a terrifying cyber bullying campaign.
The 12-year old has received threatening texts, Facebook messages and anonymous Blackberry messages in a campaign lasting two years.
A Facebook page was even set up asking people to join if they ‘hate or dislike’ the young victim.
Now her mother is facing court after pulling her daughter out of Futures Community College in Southend for the second time, claiming nothing is being done to help her child.
The girl is said to have suffered a breakdown following the campaign and has been assaulted in the street.
Southend Council is prosecuting the girl’s distraught mother for pulling her out of school between September and December.
Her mother said: “I’m absolutely livid. I can’t believe they are taking me to court because I’m trying to protect my child from being bullied.
“It’s making her physically and mentally ill. I see her sobbing and screaming and having panic attacks.
“How could you send a child to school in that state?”
Comments(67)
mys842
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1:05pm Thu 7 Mar 13
I'm not surprised at her mother's upset, as a father I'd be livid if my child was bullied in this way and nothing was being done to stop it.
RobertFS
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1:11pm Thu 7 Mar 13
call the police
supermadmax
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1:26pm Thu 7 Mar 13
As I doubt even the staff at Futures College would allow it to get this far if she was genuinely bullied to that extent.
Id be interested to hear their thoughts, perhaps you could bother to call the school & ask for their version echo ?
Rochford Rob
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1:31pm Thu 7 Mar 13
Sorted.
Carnabackable
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1:37pm Thu 7 Mar 13
perini wrote:Idiot, the Mother has a duty - she has failed in that duty - now court action being taken, oh don't say it's bullying...
Counter-sue the school authority for failing to provide a safe environment!
Carnabackable
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1:44pm Thu 7 Mar 13
mys842
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1:46pm Thu 7 Mar 13
Carnabackable wrote:The mother has a more pressing duty to protect her child !!!
perini wrote:Idiot, the Mother has a duty - she has failed in that duty - now court action being taken, oh don't say it's bullying...
Counter-sue the school authority for failing to provide a safe environment!
fkf234
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1:48pm Thu 7 Mar 13
Sounds like a lame excuse to keep her daughter off school and prevent herself from getting into problems with the authorities to me
Carnabackable
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1:52pm Thu 7 Mar 13
fkf234 wrote:Hear hear, where's dad in all this?
If this has been going on for two years then the girl must surely have been in primary school when it started as she would only have been 10 years old, and if the mother is so concerned why has it taken her two years to take action.
Sounds like a lame excuse to keep her daughter off school and prevent herself from getting into problems with the authorities to me
stopmoaning1
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1:53pm Thu 7 Mar 13
I would find it hard to believe the school had not engaged with the mother and pupil to try and resolve the issue before it got this far but hey, I don’t know.
Sean4u
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1:53pm Thu 7 Mar 13
RobertFS wrote:The brand mentioned in the article is the device of choice of many government agencies and popular uprisings because of its extra security features. It's essentially the ideal terrorist radio.
surely there is enough technology available to identify anonymous emails and phone calls?
call the police
Carnabackable
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1:55pm Thu 7 Mar 13
Sean4u wrote:Quick, contact the British Medical ****;n, you've just managed to talk out of your ar55e
RobertFS wrote:The brand mentioned in the article is the device of choice of many government agencies and popular uprisings because of its extra security features. It's essentially the ideal terrorist radio.
surely there is enough technology available to identify anonymous emails and phone calls?
call the police
iknowbetter
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1:58pm Thu 7 Mar 13
JuliaM
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2:00pm Thu 7 Mar 13
Carnabackable wrote:Is there a dad in the picture?
fkf234 wrote: If this has been going on for two years then the girl must surely have been in primary school when it started as she would only have been 10 years old, and if the mother is so concerned why has it taken her two years to take action. Sounds like a lame excuse to keep her daughter off school and prevent herself from getting into problems with the authorities to meHear hear, where's dad in all this?
Carnabackable
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2:03pm Thu 7 Mar 13
JuliaM wrote:You playing spot the difference - again
Carnabackable wrote:Is there a dad in the picture?
fkf234 wrote: If this has been going on for two years then the girl must surely have been in primary school when it started as she would only have been 10 years old, and if the mother is so concerned why has it taken her two years to take action. Sounds like a lame excuse to keep her daughter off school and prevent herself from getting into problems with the authorities to meHear hear, where's dad in all this?
I can see many here...
Almeda11
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2:05pm Thu 7 Mar 13
There, they have school social workers, who can be called on by the parents, a teacher, or the child themselves, whenever there is a problem.
These social workers work closely with the families of BOTH parties, in the case of bullying.
Also with the teachers and with the children themselves, to try and sort out the issues and come to an understanding which is accepted by all parties, and they are usually very, very successful in achieving this.
lf there is criminal activity involved they have access to the police commissioner and will work closely with them also.
Sean4u
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2:08pm Thu 7 Mar 13
Carnabackable wrote:http://www.huffingto
Sean4u wrote:Quick, contact the British Medical ****;n, you've just managed to talk out of your ar55e
RobertFS wrote:The brand mentioned in the article is the device of choice of many government agencies and popular uprisings because of its extra security features. It's essentially the ideal terrorist radio.
surely there is enough technology available to identify anonymous emails and phone calls?
call the police
npost.ca/2011/08/09/
rim-blackberry-riots
_n_922577.html
http://www.aljazeera
.com/news/middleeast
/2010/10/20101082011
36732648.html
http://www.theregist
er.co.uk/2012/11/08/
blackberry_10_fips/
Where have I erred?
Rouge9
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2:28pm Thu 7 Mar 13
Carnabackable wrote:Mother has a duty to protect her child. Bullying can start in small ways, and only when it reaches the levels intimated above can it truely have an effect. The mother in question has (from the article) approached the school twice and nothing has been done, what about the schools duty of protection of a minor? As the child has had a breakdown and been attacked in the street the mother has acted correctly, and as long as she is providing a satisfactory education away from the school (Homeschooling), she meets the requirement set down by the government
perini wrote: Counter-sue the school authority for failing to provide a safe environment!Idiot, the Mother has a duty - she has failed in that duty - now court action being taken, oh don't say it's bullying...
Cosmo Spring
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2:34pm Thu 7 Mar 13
Rochford Rob wrote:would seem to be the sensible approach
Turn off all the offending 'devices' and send her off to school.
Sorted.
I hate the police
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3:08pm Thu 7 Mar 13
Almeda11 wrote:And how is this relevant to the story about what they do in Germany? Idiot.
This situation would have been long resolved if this child were in Germany.
There, they have school social workers, who can be called on by the parents, a teacher, or the child themselves, whenever there is a problem.
These social workers work closely with the families of BOTH parties, in the case of bullying.
Also with the teachers and with the children themselves, to try and sort out the issues and come to an understanding which is accepted by all parties, and they are usually very, very successful in achieving this.
lf there is criminal activity involved they have access to the police commissioner and will work closely with them also.
exAkela
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3:10pm Thu 7 Mar 13
Cosmo Spring wrote:Better still, dont give out your mobile number and come off facebook or change your security settings.
Rochford Rob wrote:would seem to be the sensible approach
Turn off all the offending 'devices' and send her off to school.
Sorted.
Daisymouse75
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3:23pm Thu 7 Mar 13
Daisymouse75
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3:25pm Thu 7 Mar 13
exAkela wrote:Better still bring your children up better & teach them some respect!
Cosmo Spring wrote:Better still, dont give out your mobile number and come off facebook or change your security settings.
Rochford Rob wrote:would seem to be the sensible approach
Turn off all the offending 'devices' and send her off to school.
Sorted.
Red Under Your Bed
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3:37pm Thu 7 Mar 13
stopmoaning1 wrote:Your new here aint you. What are you the topic copper? Get a life you saddo.
Once again we get judgmental posts from people who were not there or involved in the situation and have only heard one side of the story presented by the Echo.
I would find it hard to believe the school had not engaged with the mother and pupil to try and resolve the issue before it got this far but hey, I don’t know.
stopmoaning1
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3:52pm Thu 7 Mar 13
kyleigh92
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3:55pm Thu 7 Mar 13
stopmoaning1
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3:56pm Thu 7 Mar 13
I hate the police wrote:Have another read. It explains how in Germany they have a very clearly set process with dedicated social workers who would engage immediately with both sides to try and resolve the issue. The point is that if we had the same system, it is unlikely it would have got this far.
Almeda11 wrote:And how is this relevant to the story about what they do in Germany? Idiot.
This situation would have been long resolved if this child were in Germany.
There, they have school social workers, who can be called on by the parents, a teacher, or the child themselves, whenever there is a problem.
These social workers work closely with the families of BOTH parties, in the case of bullying.
Also with the teachers and with the children themselves, to try and sort out the issues and come to an understanding which is accepted by all parties, and they are usually very, very successful in achieving this.
lf there is criminal activity involved they have access to the police commissioner and will work closely with them also.
It’s quite obvious really.
perini
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4:14pm Thu 7 Mar 13
Carnabackable wrote:You never fail to show yourself up as the fool you really are - I won't regress to name calling as you do!
perini wrote: Counter-sue the school authority for failing to provide a safe environment!Idiot, the Mother has a duty - she has failed in that duty - now court action being taken, oh don't say it's bullying...
Rochford Rob
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4:18pm Thu 7 Mar 13
kyleigh92 wrote:No, the woman (and half the nation by the look of it) are morons for allowing their children unfettered access to such technology.
This is absolutely disgusting that this woman is being taken to court for trying to protect her child. Whoever is writing horrible comments imagine if that was YOUR child being bullied! MORONS
Turn them all off.
Plus, what ever happended to 'sticks & stones' ???
Had the silly woman gone to the authorities long ago when it all started it could have been nipped in the bud. No one is anonymous on the web. Everyone leaves a trail.
I suspect there's more to this than meets the eye.
myfriend101
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4:33pm Thu 7 Mar 13
reptile
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4:36pm Thu 7 Mar 13
bob7
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4:42pm Thu 7 Mar 13
whataday
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6:10pm Thu 7 Mar 13
From reading the article it would appear the council is adding to the bullying problem by colluding with the offenders.
_champagne2
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7:05pm Thu 7 Mar 13
Democrat
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9:28pm Thu 7 Mar 13
http://ceop.police.u
k/safety-centre/
Every parent should read this.
woolstone
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10:12pm Thu 7 Mar 13
Steve H
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10:15pm Thu 7 Mar 13
Rouge9 wrote:How do we know the School hasn't done anything? We've only heard one side of the story.
Carnabackable wrote:Mother has a duty to protect her child. Bullying can start in small ways, and only when it reaches the levels intimated above can it truely have an effect. The mother in question has (from the article) approached the school twice and nothing has been done, what about the schools duty of protection of a minor? As the child has had a breakdown and been attacked in the street the mother has acted correctly, and as long as she is providing a satisfactory education away from the school (Homeschooling), she meets the requirement set down by the government
perini wrote: Counter-sue the school authority for failing to provide a safe environment!Idiot, the Mother has a duty - she has failed in that duty - now court action being taken, oh don't say it's bullying...
Steve H
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10:18pm Thu 7 Mar 13
kyleigh92 wrote:Hmmm I think you should take a long hard look at your post......calling people Morons....being aggresive. You are no better than the bullies at the school.
This is absolutely disgusting that this woman is being taken to court for trying to protect her child. Whoever is writing horrible comments imagine if that was YOUR child being bullied! MORONS
Jilly from Leigh
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11:17pm Thu 7 Mar 13
Rochford Rob
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7:29am Fri 8 Mar 13
Jilly from Leigh wrote:Yet you felt the need to comment. Strange that.
Boring!
Back to topic. Cyber bulliying is only bullying if you are so stupid that you are aware of it and still allow your child access to whatever is upsetting them in the first place.
InTheKnowOk
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8:40am Fri 8 Mar 13
InTheKnowOk
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8:45am Fri 8 Mar 13
They caught that dude who wrote racist remarks on FB a while back so i can't see the problem here?
InTheKnowOk
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8:52am Fri 8 Mar 13
Carnabackable wrote:Can't you put a sentence together without calling someone names?
perini wrote:Idiot, the Mother has a duty - she has failed in that duty - now court action being taken, oh don't say it's bullying...
Counter-sue the school authority for failing to provide a safe environment!
You're not a kid are you? .. Just wondering like??
supermadmax
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10:04am Fri 8 Mar 13
InTheKnowOk wrote:I agree they could catch the alleged bullies quite quickly, but that's not true about IP addresses I'm afraid.
The texts, emails and messages on Facebook will be enough to catch the culprits via I.P addy's ..
They caught that dude who wrote racist remarks on FB a while back so i can't see the problem here?
Firstly the bullying part of this is not a criminal case.
Secondly even if it was the police would have to establish if this case warranted the cost (of even a few thousand pound) to go the trouble.
In the unlikely event they do, they would need to petition the high court, to have the IP information released by the ISP & the media outlet (ie facebook), even then they will only give the area ie southend. + all this takes months.
Company's will not give out IP information for fear of being sued under the data protection, privacy laws or similar. Regardless of where in the world they are based.
The dude you refer to was only arrested & prosecuted because he did it via his own account AND admitted it when questioned.
If he had said his account was hacked & denied it, he would have got off due to lack of evidence.
Thewarguy
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10:53am Fri 8 Mar 13
Say you are home tutoring, you do not have to follow the national curriculum, and your child does NOT have to stay in the house during school hours.
Noteworthy
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11:38am Fri 8 Mar 13
The report does not mention that bullying took place on school premeses. Can the school do much other than talk to those involved?
And if the bullying is cyber - the girl has received threats on text, on blackberry messenger and facebook. Firstly - change numbers, restrict access. Second, why does a 12-year-old need their own phone, and I thought the Facebook access was for 16+? Shut these avenues and what can they do?
It's the old adiage - if you ignore them, they get bored and move on. If you can't see the problem, it's the best form of ignoring.
The assualt - was this reported to the police?
Children should not have access to all this kind of stuff. I don't condone bullying at all - I had quite a bit of physical bullying when I was younger - but making it easy doesn't help.
I hope this problem can be sorted, but without hearing the other side of the story (from the school - did they do anything, even silence speaks volumes), it's impossible to say what will happen.
Sensible of Leigh
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5:08pm Fri 8 Mar 13
Sean4u wrote:BBM or Blackberry Messenger is an encrypted system which means it cannot be intercepted and read easily. However you can only send a message, as I do from time to time, to a phone once you have that phone's PIN number. This is different from a mobile number and is quite a lengthy one which cannot be guessed. So in order to send a message you must know the PIN number and must have been accepted. In doing this your PIN number is given to the recipient and any messages sent cannot be anonymous. It is only third parties who do not know the origin or destination of any message. Just as you can't send an anonymous text - the number and or name is always displayed. So in answer to those who questioned whether the technology existed to trace calls - yes and in every case!
Carnabackable wrote:http://www.huffingto
Sean4u wrote:Quick, contact the British Medical ****;n, you've just managed to talk out of your ar55e
RobertFS wrote:The brand mentioned in the article is the device of choice of many government agencies and popular uprisings because of its extra security features. It's essentially the ideal terrorist radio.
surely there is enough technology available to identify anonymous emails and phone calls?
call the police
npost.ca/2011/08/09/
rim-blackberry-riots
_n_922577.html
http://www.aljazeera
.com/news/middleeast
/2010/10/20101082011
36732648.html
http://www.theregist
er.co.uk/2012/11/08/
blackberry_10_fips/
Where have I erred?
Luscious Linda
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5:53pm Fri 8 Mar 13
watchfulk
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6:25pm Fri 8 Mar 13
_champagne2 wrote:I really feel for this mother. I too have the unfortunate task of having to drivew through the pupils from Futures on my way to work every day. There seems to be no supervision, I have not yet seen a member of staff to witness or stop the appalling behaviour from the majority of the pupils from their school. In the snow they were pelting passing cars with snowballs, they run in the roads, they gesture to passing motorists. I have witnessed several fights, it seems several pupils onto one! and the language and behaviour exhibited at the nearby bus stop is disgusting. One of my friends children has been recently subjected to bullying, it appears for a considerable ammount of time and it has certainly not been addressed. it has been suggested that they are segregated to protect them while the bullies are allowed to mix with the school population...I have no doubt to look for their next victim. This school needs to deal with the bullying problem they clearly DO HAVE within the school before an innocent child gets seriously hurt.
Travelling on a bus this Monday past this school was unsettling by some of the pupils that got on bar a few. Their behaviour was appalling and most adults moved to the front of the bus. One teacher watched/supervised others getting on. It was packed and the conversation between 2 girls was mature enough of women in their 20s. i was glad to get off. With regards to the bullying I'm surprised that the authority hasn't helped get this child into another school. My daughter was bullied at school in her primary years but it was nipped in the bud by the form teacher, so something doesn't add up here
asbo in a coma
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7:02pm Fri 8 Mar 13
don't you have to be 13 to have a facebook account?
Almeda11
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7:33pm Fri 8 Mar 13
Rochford Rob wrote:And you seriously believe that that would stop the bullying? It would just continue IN SCHOOL. What a simple mind you have!!!
Turn off all the offending 'devices' and send her off to school. Sorted.
AND you make it sound as if it is the girl`s fault, or do you LIKE BULLIES?
Almeda11
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7:37pm Fri 8 Mar 13
fkf234 wrote:Your comment makes NO SENSE at all.
If this has been going on for two years then the girl must surely have been in primary school when it started as she would only have been 10 years old, and if the mother is so concerned why has it taken her two years to take action. Sounds like a lame excuse to keep her daughter off school and prevent herself from getting into problems with the authorities to me
A. WHY should she be in trouble with the school authorities??
And WHAT has the fact that she was in primary school got to do with anything?
And how do you KNOW that the mother didn`t take action, YOU DON`T, and the only people who SHOULD be in trouble are the bullies themselves!
Almeda11
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7:40pm Fri 8 Mar 13
Carnabackable wrote:l take it you have children? probably not l think, but god help them if you do, you sound like the parent from hell, and WORSE than the bullies!
perini wrote: Counter-sue the school authority for failing to provide a safe environment!Idiot, the Mother has a duty - she has failed in that duty - now court action being taken, oh don't say it's bullying...
Almeda11
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7:46pm Fri 8 Mar 13
I hate the police wrote:YOU`RE are the IDIOT! I was making a COMPARISON, but obviously that`s beyond the reach of your tiny brain cell!
Almeda11 wrote: This situation would have been long resolved if this child were in Germany. There, they have school social workers, who can be called on by the parents, a teacher, or the child themselves, whenever there is a problem. These social workers work closely with the families of BOTH parties, in the case of bullying. Also with the teachers and with the children themselves, to try and sort out the issues and come to an understanding which is accepted by all parties, and they are usually very, very successful in achieving this. lf there is criminal activity involved they have access to the police commissioner and will work closely with them also.And how is this relevant to the story about what they do in Germany? Idiot.
Almeda11
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7:53pm Fri 8 Mar 13
stopmoaning1 wrote:Thanks stopmoaning for explaining that so well to lhate the police, it IS obvious to most on here, obviously not to him, or else he`s just an awkward so and so, and likes to disagree , although he`d never have the guts to say that to my face!
I hate the police wrote:Have another read. It explains how in Germany they have a very clearly set process with dedicated social workers who would engage immediately with both sides to try and resolve the issue. The point is that if we had the same system, it is unlikely it would have got this far. It’s quite obvious really.Almeda11 wrote: This situation would have been long resolved if this child were in Germany. There, they have school social workers, who can be called on by the parents, a teacher, or the child themselves, whenever there is a problem. These social workers work closely with the families of BOTH parties, in the case of bullying. Also with the teachers and with the children themselves, to try and sort out the issues and come to an understanding which is accepted by all parties, and they are usually very, very successful in achieving this. lf there is criminal activity involved they have access to the police commissioner and will work closely with them also.And how is this relevant to the story about what they do in Germany? Idiot.
Pity we don`t have a similar system in this country.
Almeda11
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8:56pm Fri 8 Mar 13
Steve H wrote:Haven`t you ever heard of RIGHTOUS INDIGNATION? Sometimes it`s right to be angry, it shows you are passionate about what you believe in, as opposed to APATHETIC!.
kyleigh92 wrote: This is absolutely disgusting that this woman is being taken to court for trying to protect her child. Whoever is writing horrible comments imagine if that was YOUR child being bullied! MORONSHmmm I think you should take a long hard look at your post......calling people Morons....being aggresive. You are no better than the bullies at the school.
Carnabackable
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9:32pm Fri 8 Mar 13
Nebs
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10:02pm Fri 8 Mar 13
asbo in a coma
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10:18pm Fri 8 Mar 13
pls pls pls like the asbo in a coma facebook page pls i beg you.
sensiblecitizen1
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12:03am Sat 9 Mar 13
I must stress that I do not condone bullying in any shape or form, but I happen to know of this family.
This is not the first time they have been taken to court for the kids not being present at school it happened at the junior school attended too. A year ago they were in court for failure to attend school.
The family are known for bullying people and many children at Futures were victims of this daughter and her violent behaviour. They stood up for themselves and now the table has turned.
I am aware of the school and can safely say that they deal with bullying in a very serious way and do not allow it to happen, this is an unfortunate negative report of a school that is doing all it can to prevent bullying.
My child received very nasty messages on facebook from this child and a friend of the family. I have been called names from the family and been a victim of vicious calls
If she was being bullied I would be the first to support this article, however I am afraid that knowing some of the background of this family that I do this is impossible for me.
Carnabackable
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10:54am Sat 9 Mar 13
sensiblecitizen1 wrote:Sounds like the truth is finally showing it's head, a history of Truancy, the so called victims are the perpetrators, they have succumbed to the press, to attempt to avoid the TRUE STORY.
I felt I had to respond to this.
I must stress that I do not condone bullying in any shape or form, but I happen to know of this family.
This is not the first time they have been taken to court for the kids not being present at school it happened at the junior school attended too. A year ago they were in court for failure to attend school.
The family are known for bullying people and many children at Futures were victims of this daughter and her violent behaviour. They stood up for themselves and now the table has turned.
I am aware of the school and can safely say that they deal with bullying in a very serious way and do not allow it to happen, this is an unfortunate negative report of a school that is doing all it can to prevent bullying.
My child received very nasty messages on facebook from this child and a friend of the family. I have been called names from the family and been a victim of vicious calls
If she was being bullied I would be the first to support this article, however I am afraid that knowing some of the background of this family that I do this is impossible for me.
Dd2013
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2:01pm Sat 9 Mar 13
Dd2013
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2:08pm Sat 9 Mar 13
InTheKnowOk
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8:37pm Sat 9 Mar 13
Pot .. Kettle ..
Dd2013
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1:11am Mon 11 Mar 13
Ace1973
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4:55pm Wed 13 Mar 13
perini says...
1:04pm Thu 7 Mar 13