Canvey councillors call for change to community meetings

Dave Blackwell, John and Janice Payne are just some of the councillors calling for change

Dave Blackwell, John and Janice Payne are just some of the councillors calling for change

First published in Echo News by

CALLS have been made to change the current format of council neighbourhood meetings due to poor attendances.

Castle Point Council brought about changes in May last year to hold one big meeting on Canvey rather than several localised ward meetings. But the change has led to a drop in attendance of 75 per cent.

Councillors on the island are worried that residents are missing important discussions involving the future of the new local plan and other items of interest.

The issue came to a head on Wednesday night when councillors outnumbered residents 14 to 13 at a meeting held in Canvey Methodist Church in Waarden Road.

Peter May, Canvey Independent councillor in central ward said: “The neighbourhood meetings were so well attended. They were always full and were comfortable with a friendly atmosphere. These are more like a formal chat and no-one likes them.”

Dave Blackwell, leader of the Canvey Independent Party and a local councillor for 18 years, added: “The councillors don’t like it. The residents don’t like it. These meetings are not accessible enough and no-one is told about them. We see the same faces every week and as nice as that is we want it how it used to be with up to 50 people speaking to their ward councillors.”

A Castle Point Council spokesman said the newer meetings helped “reduce bureaucracy” and led to a more “informal” discussion about residents concerns. The spokesman added: “The council will be reviewing its arrangement for all council meetings once again in May but like all changes sometimes they take time to settle down.”

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5:08pm Sat 16 Feb 13

fletch12107 says...

Apathy has set in to anything that Central or Local Governments try and do because it appears that whatever a majority would like to see happening it either doesn't happen or goes the opposite way.
Apathy has set in to anything that Central or Local Governments try and do because it appears that whatever a majority would like to see happening it either doesn't happen or goes the opposite way. fletch12107
  • Score: 2

5:17pm Sat 16 Feb 13

John T Pharro says...

You are so right. I was at this meeting and this is only part of the story of that meeting. However, the biggest single thing the Council has done is that the format change means no minutes recorded, and any matters of concern are not brought back to,the next meeting as in the past. In the past they at all the Neighbourhood Meetings properly minuted and matters to be addressed were brought back and update.
This now means that, as you will see from other posts on other matters made at this meeting there is no record, so no accountability and no proof of what was said. Do you call that democracy or transparency, because I don't?
Cue the usual critics to knock me down even though they were not at the meeting.
You are so right. I was at this meeting and this is only part of the story of that meeting. However, the biggest single thing the Council has done is that the format change means no minutes recorded, and any matters of concern are not brought back to,the next meeting as in the past. In the past they at all the Neighbourhood Meetings properly minuted and matters to be addressed were brought back and update. This now means that, as you will see from other posts on other matters made at this meeting there is no record, so no accountability and no proof of what was said. Do you call that democracy or transparency, because I don't? Cue the usual critics to knock me down even though they were not at the meeting. John T Pharro
  • Score: 3

5:39pm Sat 16 Feb 13

Sim0n says...

John T Pharro wrote:
You are so right. I was at this meeting and this is only part of the story of that meeting. However, the biggest single thing the Council has done is that the format change means no minutes recorded, and any matters of concern are not brought back to,the next meeting as in the past. In the past they at all the Neighbourhood Meetings properly minuted and matters to be addressed were brought back and update.
This now means that, as you will see from other posts on other matters made at this meeting there is no record, so no accountability and no proof of what was said. Do you call that democracy or transparency, because I don't?
Cue the usual critics to knock me down even though they were not at the meeting.
John T Pharro
the running of the meetings is down to the chairman and all the meetings are run differently, under the control of each wards, reporting back is the responsibility of the Cllrs , it is for the residents to keep the Cllrs to reporting back. It is poor advertising to blame that and the cancellation of the last round of meetings.
[quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: You are so right. I was at this meeting and this is only part of the story of that meeting. However, the biggest single thing the Council has done is that the format change means no minutes recorded, and any matters of concern are not brought back to,the next meeting as in the past. In the past they at all the Neighbourhood Meetings properly minuted and matters to be addressed were brought back and update. This now means that, as you will see from other posts on other matters made at this meeting there is no record, so no accountability and no proof of what was said. Do you call that democracy or transparency, because I don't? Cue the usual critics to knock me down even though they were not at the meeting.[/p][/quote]John T Pharro the running of the meetings is down to the chairman and all the meetings are run differently, under the control of each wards, reporting back is the responsibility of the Cllrs , it is for the residents to keep the Cllrs to reporting back. It is poor advertising to blame that and the cancellation of the last round of meetings. Sim0n
  • Score: -2

6:18pm Sat 16 Feb 13

Mrjbutt says...

Nothing happens on Canvey because we are Castle Point and they will never agree to anything that benefits Canvey whoever is elected. Look at project 2000 on the sea front. Never finished. Look at the Sea wall it was only finished for the 1/4 mile in front of the amusements on the sea front. If you are under 5FT 6INS you cannot sea over the rest of it. Oh when I said sea front amusements I meant flats. There is no point in attending any meetings of voting for a Canvey council Canvey has been abandoned. Even our local MP cannot be bothered about Canvey. Unless of course its voting time and she wants to carry one the gravy train ride which is today's politics.
Nothing happens on Canvey because we are Castle Point and they will never agree to anything that benefits Canvey whoever is elected. Look at project 2000 on the sea front. Never finished. Look at the Sea wall it was only finished for the 1/4 mile in front of the amusements on the sea front. If you are under 5FT 6INS you cannot sea over the rest of it. Oh when I said sea front amusements I meant flats. There is no point in attending any meetings of voting for a Canvey council Canvey has been abandoned. Even our local MP cannot be bothered about Canvey. Unless of course its voting time and she wants to carry one the gravy train ride which is today's politics. Mrjbutt
  • Score: 3

6:21pm Sat 16 Feb 13

Carnabackable says...

Canvey Canvey Canvey, go away, I'm sick of hearing the woes of that turd in the Thames.
Canvey Canvey Canvey, go away, I'm sick of hearing the woes of that turd in the Thames. Carnabackable
  • Score: -5

7:09pm Sat 16 Feb 13

John T Pharro says...

Sim0n wrote:
John T Pharro wrote:
You are so right. I was at this meeting and this is only part of the story of that meeting. However, the biggest single thing the Council has done is that the format change means no minutes recorded, and any matters of concern are not brought back to,the next meeting as in the past. In the past they at all the Neighbourhood Meetings properly minuted and matters to be addressed were brought back and update.
This now means that, as you will see from other posts on other matters made at this meeting there is no record, so no accountability and no proof of what was said. Do you call that democracy or transparency, because I don't?
Cue the usual critics to knock me down even though they were not at the meeting.
John T Pharro
the running of the meetings is down to the chairman and all the meetings are run differently, under the control of each wards, reporting back is the responsibility of the Cllrs , it is for the residents to keep the Cllrs to reporting back. It is poor advertising to blame that and the cancellation of the last round of meetings.
Really well that is not what Castle Point officers say. These changes were objected to from the start. It is not Chairs the meeting, but who dictates the format. There is no "each Ward scenario". The wards are lumped together and now no minutes taken. What you appear to be referring to is the old format.
[quote][p][bold]Sim0n[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: You are so right. I was at this meeting and this is only part of the story of that meeting. However, the biggest single thing the Council has done is that the format change means no minutes recorded, and any matters of concern are not brought back to,the next meeting as in the past. In the past they at all the Neighbourhood Meetings properly minuted and matters to be addressed were brought back and update. This now means that, as you will see from other posts on other matters made at this meeting there is no record, so no accountability and no proof of what was said. Do you call that democracy or transparency, because I don't? Cue the usual critics to knock me down even though they were not at the meeting.[/p][/quote]John T Pharro the running of the meetings is down to the chairman and all the meetings are run differently, under the control of each wards, reporting back is the responsibility of the Cllrs , it is for the residents to keep the Cllrs to reporting back. It is poor advertising to blame that and the cancellation of the last round of meetings.[/p][/quote]Really well that is not what Castle Point officers say. These changes were objected to from the start. It is not Chairs the meeting, but who dictates the format. There is no "each Ward scenario". The wards are lumped together and now no minutes taken. What you appear to be referring to is the old format. John T Pharro
  • Score: 2

7:13pm Sat 16 Feb 13

John T Pharro says...

Carnabackable wrote:
Canvey Canvey Canvey, go away, I'm sick of hearing the woes of that turd in the Thames.
Don't listen then. Read something else. Shove off in your 4x to your house on top of the hill in Rayleigh. Just remember you said once you sold properties on Canvey to fund it. You don't even live in the same Borough so it has naff all to do with you.
[quote][p][bold]Carnabackable[/bold] wrote: Canvey Canvey Canvey, go away, I'm sick of hearing the woes of that turd in the Thames.[/p][/quote]Don't listen then. Read something else. Shove off in your 4x to your house on top of the hill in Rayleigh. Just remember you said once you sold properties on Canvey to fund it. You don't even live in the same Borough so it has naff all to do with you. John T Pharro
  • Score: 4

8:01pm Sat 16 Feb 13

John T Pharro says...

Mrjbutt wrote:
Nothing happens on Canvey because we are Castle Point and they will never agree to anything that benefits Canvey whoever is elected. Look at project 2000 on the sea front. Never finished. Look at the Sea wall it was only finished for the 1/4 mile in front of the amusements on the sea front. If you are under 5FT 6INS you cannot sea over the rest of it. Oh when I said sea front amusements I meant flats. There is no point in attending any meetings of voting for a Canvey council Canvey has been abandoned. Even our local MP cannot be bothered about Canvey. Unless of course its voting time and she wants to carry one the gravy train ride which is today's politics.
Thanks for that. Please try to attend the meetings. If you look at the posts on the development in Benfleet please add your support or opposite.
[quote][p][bold]Mrjbutt[/bold] wrote: Nothing happens on Canvey because we are Castle Point and they will never agree to anything that benefits Canvey whoever is elected. Look at project 2000 on the sea front. Never finished. Look at the Sea wall it was only finished for the 1/4 mile in front of the amusements on the sea front. If you are under 5FT 6INS you cannot sea over the rest of it. Oh when I said sea front amusements I meant flats. There is no point in attending any meetings of voting for a Canvey council Canvey has been abandoned. Even our local MP cannot be bothered about Canvey. Unless of course its voting time and she wants to carry one the gravy train ride which is today's politics.[/p][/quote]Thanks for that. Please try to attend the meetings. If you look at the posts on the development in Benfleet please add your support or opposite. John T Pharro
  • Score: 2

10:32pm Sat 16 Feb 13

Carnabackable says...

John T Pharro wrote:
Carnabackable wrote:
Canvey Canvey Canvey, go away, I'm sick of hearing the woes of that turd in the Thames.
Don't listen then. Read something else. Shove off in your 4x to your house on top of the hill in Rayleigh. Just remember you said once you sold properties on Canvey to fund it. You don't even live in the same Borough so it has naff all to do with you.
Hey parrot boy, you wanna watch what your beak comes out with, might bite you on the ar5e
[quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Carnabackable[/bold] wrote: Canvey Canvey Canvey, go away, I'm sick of hearing the woes of that turd in the Thames.[/p][/quote]Don't listen then. Read something else. Shove off in your 4x to your house on top of the hill in Rayleigh. Just remember you said once you sold properties on Canvey to fund it. You don't even live in the same Borough so it has naff all to do with you.[/p][/quote]Hey parrot boy, you wanna watch what your beak comes out with, might bite you on the ar5e Carnabackable
  • Score: -2

8:55am Sun 17 Feb 13

A Dermot says...

Canvey is a den of inequity. The men give the carp in the lakes herpes, the women burn down their homes frying chips. Until recently the word 'sister' also meant wife for many Canvey folk. Open the floodgates and let the sea cleans the filth once and for all.
Canvey is a den of inequity. The men give the carp in the lakes herpes, the women burn down their homes frying chips. Until recently the word 'sister' also meant wife for many Canvey folk. Open the floodgates and let the sea cleans the filth once and for all. A Dermot
  • Score: 0

1:02pm Sun 17 Feb 13

upset says...

WHAT!!! the INDIES are the majority of councillors on Canvey and they can still only complain about a meeting, what chance do the residents of the Island to see any influence at the CPBC, wasted votes again.
WHAT!!! the INDIES are the majority of councillors on Canvey and they can still only complain about a meeting, what chance do the residents of the Island to see any influence at the CPBC, wasted votes again. upset
  • Score: -1

4:19pm Sun 17 Feb 13

Carnabackable says...

A Dermot wrote:
Canvey is a den of inequity. The men give the carp in the lakes herpes, the women burn down their homes frying chips. Until recently the word 'sister' also meant wife for many Canvey folk. Open the floodgates and let the sea cleans the filth once and for all.
LoL
[quote][p][bold]A Dermot[/bold] wrote: Canvey is a den of inequity. The men give the carp in the lakes herpes, the women burn down their homes frying chips. Until recently the word 'sister' also meant wife for many Canvey folk. Open the floodgates and let the sea cleans the filth once and for all.[/p][/quote]LoL Carnabackable
  • Score: 0

7:06pm Thu 7 Mar 13

joe2345 says...

No one attends the meetings because they have NEVER been on the calendar on the website. How are people supposed to attend if they don't know when they are??
No one attends the meetings because they have NEVER been on the calendar on the website. How are people supposed to attend if they don't know when they are?? joe2345
  • Score: 0

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