£50million Southend Tesco plans stalling

How the new store would look

How the new store would look

First published in Echo News

DOUBTS are growing over whether a new £50million Tesco in Southend - and the 450 jobs it is due to create - will ever become a reality.

A year after the supermarket giant’s proposals for the former B&Q car park, in Short Street, were supposedly given the green light, no efforts have been made to start building work.

Moreover, the Echo can reveal Tesco has not signed a legal agreement which is needed to rubber-stamp the development, meaning the store technically still does not have planning permission.

With the company’s chiefs announcing they are now focusing on internet sales earlier this year, including a decision to mothball all new plans for superstores, fears are growing the Southend store may have fallen victim to the chain’s change of heart.

Jackie Wilmott, 46, who lives in nearby Maldon Road, said: “I think everyone just wants to know what’s happening.

“It was a big thing when Tesco announced it and 450 jobs is a lot for a town like this.

“But we need to know what’s going on, one way or another.”

Nicola Hudson, 43, of the same road, added: “It’s definitely a concern.

“It was a big investment for Southend, but you’ve got to think that it might not happen now.”

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10:00am Sun 11 Nov 12

Eric Whim says...

Don't Tesco just build what they want when they want then apply for retroactive planning permission?

Seems to be the way they operate in Basildon and Pitsea and they always get away with it.
Don't Tesco just build what they want when they want then apply for retroactive planning permission? Seems to be the way they operate in Basildon and Pitsea and they always get away with it. Eric Whim
  • Score: 1

10:28am Sun 11 Nov 12

Nebs says...

I thought they were waiting for the football ground to move, and Sainsburys would then relocate from the top of the High St to Roots Hall, at which time the Tesco on the B&Q site would open.
I thought they were waiting for the football ground to move, and Sainsburys would then relocate from the top of the High St to Roots Hall, at which time the Tesco on the B&Q site would open. Nebs
  • Score: 2

10:46am Sun 11 Nov 12

reptile says...

Tesco are renowned for buying land to leave empty to stop competitors moving in, however in this case who does own the land now?
Tesco are renowned for buying land to leave empty to stop competitors moving in, however in this case who does own the land now? reptile
  • Score: 1

12:33pm Sun 11 Nov 12

Saxonpride says...

Bulldoze the building and turn the space into a new open-air market. That way you stop the drunks from hanging out there and rebuild some of that good will the council lost when they flattened York Road Market.
Bulldoze the building and turn the space into a new open-air market. That way you stop the drunks from hanging out there and rebuild some of that good will the council lost when they flattened York Road Market. Saxonpride
  • Score: 8

12:40pm Sun 11 Nov 12

mark-986 says...

Tesco are loosing money customers are not coming back to tescos. I used to work at Tesco until a few weeks ago every store are have meetings with staff because they think it's all our fault. when really it's because they been trying to break america and loosing money and not bothering with there uk branches. we have had no overtime for years and things are always broke. southend store we not be made they are concentrating getting there customers back they have no plans to make more superstores.
Tesco are loosing money customers are not coming back to tescos. I used to work at Tesco until a few weeks ago every store are have meetings with staff because they think it's all our fault. when really it's because they been trying to break america and loosing money and not bothering with there uk branches. we have had no overtime for years and things are always broke. southend store we not be made they are concentrating getting there customers back they have no plans to make more superstores. mark-986
  • Score: 0

1:17pm Sun 11 Nov 12

Max Impact says...

A few thoughts for use until tesco start work:

1. The old B&Q car park is currently a paid for car park, why not open the building as an indoor car park, rig CCTV, have an attendant on duty, all cars and driver are logged when they go in so only drivers are permitted to enter when collecting cars.

2. Use the building as in indoor market.

3. Demolish the building and use the whole site as a car park.

4. SBC CPO the site and do No3

Sadly people will moan about No4 as they always do when the council spend money!
A few thoughts for use until tesco start work: 1. The old B&Q car park is currently a paid for car park, why not open the building as an indoor car park, rig CCTV, have an attendant on duty, all cars and driver are logged when they go in so only drivers are permitted to enter when collecting cars. 2. Use the building as in indoor market. 3. Demolish the building and use the whole site as a car park. 4. SBC CPO the site and do No3 Sadly people will moan about No4 as they always do when the council spend money! Max Impact
  • Score: 0

1:32pm Sun 11 Nov 12

Nebs says...

Max Impact wrote:
A few thoughts for use until tesco start work:

1. The old B&Q car park is currently a paid for car park, why not open the building as an indoor car park, rig CCTV, have an attendant on duty, all cars and driver are logged when they go in so only drivers are permitted to enter when collecting cars.

2. Use the building as in indoor market.

3. Demolish the building and use the whole site as a car park.

4. SBC CPO the site and do No3

Sadly people will moan about No4 as they always do when the council spend money!
5. Charge all businesses full business rates after a building has been unused or demolished for 3 years, based on what they paid when it was in use.
[quote][p][bold]Max Impact[/bold] wrote: A few thoughts for use until tesco start work: 1. The old B&Q car park is currently a paid for car park, why not open the building as an indoor car park, rig CCTV, have an attendant on duty, all cars and driver are logged when they go in so only drivers are permitted to enter when collecting cars. 2. Use the building as in indoor market. 3. Demolish the building and use the whole site as a car park. 4. SBC CPO the site and do No3 Sadly people will moan about No4 as they always do when the council spend money![/p][/quote]5. Charge all businesses full business rates after a building has been unused or demolished for 3 years, based on what they paid when it was in use. Nebs
  • Score: 3

3:24pm Sun 11 Nov 12

ShrimperSS0 says...

or maybe 6. Bulldoze the old B and Q and turn the whole site into one big leisure complex including an ice rink. Build over the current car park creates more space while retaining parking spaces. Could've had an indoor market in what was Woolies/ TJ's until a THIRD H and M opened in the centre of town (if my eyes did not play tricks on me on a recent visit thru the centre of town, though maybe now JJB are on longer with us that could do for now) I for one will not be sad to see them go there as there are already countless stores in and around the borough, including a large piece of retail space within a couple of miles of the proposed new store. As for Focus Theatre, perhaps a temp new home downstairs at the old new empire and connexions can also be found a temp new home closeby while work is ongoing. Result is new facilities for locals and visitors to enjoy (retaining parking plus with decent public transport links) that could end up paying for itself. Of course maybe that was all too simple a thought process for the powers that be to come up with'
or maybe 6. Bulldoze the old B and Q and turn the whole site into one big leisure complex including an ice rink. Build over the current car park creates more space while retaining parking spaces. Could've had an indoor market in what was Woolies/ TJ's until a THIRD H and M opened in the centre of town (if my eyes did not play tricks on me on a recent visit thru the centre of town, though maybe now JJB are on longer with us that could do for now) I for one will not be sad to see them go there as there are already countless stores in and around the borough, including a large piece of retail space within a couple of miles of the proposed new store. As for Focus Theatre, perhaps a temp new home downstairs at the old new empire and connexions can also be found a temp new home closeby while work is ongoing. Result is new facilities for locals and visitors to enjoy (retaining parking plus with decent public transport links) that could end up paying for itself. Of course maybe that was all too simple a thought process for the powers that be to come up with' ShrimperSS0
  • Score: 1

3:26pm Sun 11 Nov 12

ShrimperSS0 says...

sorry... will not be sad to see them NOT go there.
sorry... will not be sad to see them NOT go there. ShrimperSS0
  • Score: 0

4:05pm Sun 11 Nov 12

Saxonpride says...

Can we all at least agree that they need to do something to stop drunks and vagrants hanging out around the old B&Q? They're causing a persistent nuisance.
Can we all at least agree that they need to do something to stop drunks and vagrants hanging out around the old B&Q? They're causing a persistent nuisance. Saxonpride
  • Score: 4

4:37pm Sun 11 Nov 12

jolllyboy says...

Agree with Saxonpride. Unfortunately unsocial behaviour is no longer a priority as I expect they have given up as the courts do not punish them. Nothing wrong with a cell overnight and let out noon next day.
Agree with Saxonpride. Unfortunately unsocial behaviour is no longer a priority as I expect they have given up as the courts do not punish them. Nothing wrong with a cell overnight and let out noon next day. jolllyboy
  • Score: 0

5:51pm Sun 11 Nov 12

firedog says...

Some good ideas above.how much hard cash will you be investing or will you leave that to other people to lose theirs.
Some good ideas above.how much hard cash will you be investing or will you leave that to other people to lose theirs. firedog
  • Score: 0

6:29pm Sun 11 Nov 12

Max Impact says...

Saxonpride wrote:
Can we all at least agree that they need to do something to stop drunks and vagrants hanging out around the old B&Q? They're causing a persistent nuisance.
get a great big blender and place a big bottle of cider in it, as soon as any weight is put on the blades WHIZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
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[quote][p][bold]Saxonpride[/bold] wrote: Can we all at least agree that they need to do something to stop drunks and vagrants hanging out around the old B&Q? They're causing a persistent nuisance.[/p][/quote]get a great big blender and place a big bottle of cider in it, as soon as any weight is put on the blades WHIZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ Zz Max Impact
  • Score: -1

6:50pm Sun 11 Nov 12

echoforum says...

tesco is a smart money making machine ,if they want something they take it.
Clearly just like the mess on the esplanade ,the rich and powerful determine the quality of our lives.
If nothing has been signed (surprised at that) then start offering it else where.
Having said that it's a god -awful place to have a massive supermarket.
Just how are 1000's of extra cars supposed to access this site,you can't access it from the Queensway(london -bound) and the southend bound carriage is a nightmare as it stands.
tesco is a smart money making machine ,if they want something they take it. Clearly just like the mess on the esplanade ,the rich and powerful determine the quality of our lives. If nothing has been signed (surprised at that) then start offering it else where. Having said that it's a god -awful place to have a massive supermarket. Just how are 1000's of extra cars supposed to access this site,you can't access it from the Queensway(london -bound) and the southend bound carriage is a nightmare as it stands. echoforum
  • Score: 2

8:33pm Sun 11 Nov 12

emcee says...

Rest assured, if Tesco do ever build on the site it will be how and when they want it. Building will never conform to any original plans or will it be based around any planning permissions granted. Tesco run the show when it comes to building new stores because councils let them and are too lilly livered to stand up to them.
If I was in charge I would now start charging whomever owns the land high enough taxes to force them into selling the land or to do something with it.
As someone has already suggested, it is the perfect site for a large (read PROPER) market.
Rest assured, if Tesco do ever build on the site it will be how and when they want it. Building will never conform to any original plans or will it be based around any planning permissions granted. Tesco run the show when it comes to building new stores because councils let them and are too lilly livered to stand up to them. If I was in charge I would now start charging whomever owns the land high enough taxes to force them into selling the land or to do something with it. As someone has already suggested, it is the perfect site for a large (read PROPER) market. emcee
  • Score: 1

10:55pm Sun 11 Nov 12

Nebs says...

ShrimperSS0 wrote:
or maybe 6. Bulldoze the old B and Q and turn the whole site into one big leisure complex including an ice rink. Build over the current car park creates more space while retaining parking spaces. Could've had an indoor market in what was Woolies/ TJ's until a THIRD H and M opened in the centre of town (if my eyes did not play tricks on me on a recent visit thru the centre of town, though maybe now JJB are on longer with us that could do for now) I for one will not be sad to see them go there as there are already countless stores in and around the borough, including a large piece of retail space within a couple of miles of the proposed new store. As for Focus Theatre, perhaps a temp new home downstairs at the old new empire and connexions can also be found a temp new home closeby while work is ongoing. Result is new facilities for locals and visitors to enjoy (retaining parking plus with decent public transport links) that could end up paying for itself. Of course maybe that was all too simple a thought process for the powers that be to come up with'
How much would it cost to buy the land and build an ice rink?
[quote][p][bold]ShrimperSS0[/bold] wrote: or maybe 6. Bulldoze the old B and Q and turn the whole site into one big leisure complex including an ice rink. Build over the current car park creates more space while retaining parking spaces. Could've had an indoor market in what was Woolies/ TJ's until a THIRD H and M opened in the centre of town (if my eyes did not play tricks on me on a recent visit thru the centre of town, though maybe now JJB are on longer with us that could do for now) I for one will not be sad to see them go there as there are already countless stores in and around the borough, including a large piece of retail space within a couple of miles of the proposed new store. As for Focus Theatre, perhaps a temp new home downstairs at the old new empire and connexions can also be found a temp new home closeby while work is ongoing. Result is new facilities for locals and visitors to enjoy (retaining parking plus with decent public transport links) that could end up paying for itself. Of course maybe that was all too simple a thought process for the powers that be to come up with'[/p][/quote]How much would it cost to buy the land and build an ice rink? Nebs
  • Score: 0

11:02pm Sun 11 Nov 12

marshman says...

If it's not going ahead can they please sort out the Chichester Road - Queensway junction. It's surely one of the poorest road lay outs in the country and forces drivers to make a 3/4 mile diversion just to turn into Short Street. Whoever came up with that idea deserves a rocket up the ar*e.
If it's not going ahead can they please sort out the Chichester Road - Queensway junction. It's surely one of the poorest road lay outs in the country and forces drivers to make a 3/4 mile diversion just to turn into Short Street. Whoever came up with that idea deserves a rocket up the ar*e. marshman
  • Score: 3

7:17am Mon 12 Nov 12

notinwestcliffanymore says...

put the hospice on the site.
put the hospice on the site. notinwestcliffanymore
  • Score: 2

10:53am Mon 12 Nov 12

Nebs says...

marshman wrote:
If it's not going ahead can they please sort out the Chichester Road - Queensway junction. It's surely one of the poorest road lay outs in the country and forces drivers to make a 3/4 mile diversion just to turn into Short Street. Whoever came up with that idea deserves a rocket up the ar*e.
The sequencing of the lights, when you are heading west along Queensway between Chichester Rd and Victoria Ave, seems wrong too. The first set of lights for the pedestrians to cross seems to go red at the same time as the lights 100 yards further up, where you can turn into Victoria Ave, go green. So fewer cars can get through the green light as they are all backed up at the previous set of red lights looking ahead at an empty road and a green light.
[quote][p][bold]marshman[/bold] wrote: If it's not going ahead can they please sort out the Chichester Road - Queensway junction. It's surely one of the poorest road lay outs in the country and forces drivers to make a 3/4 mile diversion just to turn into Short Street. Whoever came up with that idea deserves a rocket up the ar*e.[/p][/quote]The sequencing of the lights, when you are heading west along Queensway between Chichester Rd and Victoria Ave, seems wrong too. The first set of lights for the pedestrians to cross seems to go red at the same time as the lights 100 yards further up, where you can turn into Victoria Ave, go green. So fewer cars can get through the green light as they are all backed up at the previous set of red lights looking ahead at an empty road and a green light. Nebs
  • Score: 2

12:29pm Mon 12 Nov 12

smiffy1980 says...

Oceana nightclub will be in the site which was formally B&Q

Easy access for clubbers and a taxi rank/train station right next door. All the ingredients for a new nightclub spot.

People will moan about this, but if you were looking for a site to put a new club, could you name somewhere better logistically ? .
Oceana nightclub will be in the site which was formally B&Q Easy access for clubbers and a taxi rank/train station right next door. All the ingredients for a new nightclub spot. People will moan about this, but if you were looking for a site to put a new club, could you name somewhere better logistically ? . smiffy1980
  • Score: 0

1:19pm Mon 12 Nov 12

Eric Whim says...

smiffy1980 wrote:
Oceana nightclub will be in the site which was formally B&Q

Easy access for clubbers and a taxi rank/train station right next door. All the ingredients for a new nightclub spot.

People will moan about this, but if you were looking for a site to put a new club, could you name somewhere better logistically ? .
bung it down the end of pier, next to the entrance to the new airport.....
[quote][p][bold]smiffy1980[/bold] wrote: Oceana nightclub will be in the site which was formally B&Q Easy access for clubbers and a taxi rank/train station right next door. All the ingredients for a new nightclub spot. People will moan about this, but if you were looking for a site to put a new club, could you name somewhere better logistically ? .[/p][/quote]bung it down the end of pier, next to the entrance to the new airport..... Eric Whim
  • Score: 1

5:46pm Mon 12 Nov 12

Olivia2847 says...

marshman wrote:
If it's not going ahead can they please sort out the Chichester Road - Queensway junction. It's surely one of the poorest road lay outs in the country and forces drivers to make a 3/4 mile diversion just to turn into Short Street. Whoever came up with that idea deserves a rocket up the ar*e.
Exactly - or - apply for village green status - make it an affordable green space and the law than cannot touch it - some vague ancient legislation I notice being used elsewhere ...
[quote][p][bold]marshman[/bold] wrote: If it's not going ahead can they please sort out the Chichester Road - Queensway junction. It's surely one of the poorest road lay outs in the country and forces drivers to make a 3/4 mile diversion just to turn into Short Street. Whoever came up with that idea deserves a rocket up the ar*e.[/p][/quote]Exactly - or - apply for village green status - make it an affordable green space and the law than cannot touch it - some vague ancient legislation I notice being used elsewhere ... Olivia2847
  • Score: 0

7:02pm Mon 12 Nov 12

Max Impact says...

Olivia2847 wrote:
marshman wrote:
If it's not going ahead can they please sort out the Chichester Road - Queensway junction. It's surely one of the poorest road lay outs in the country and forces drivers to make a 3/4 mile diversion just to turn into Short Street. Whoever came up with that idea deserves a rocket up the ar*e.
Exactly - or - apply for village green status - make it an affordable green space and the law than cannot touch it - some vague ancient legislation I notice being used elsewhere ...
Don't think it can be done on privatly owned land, own land held by a council, also it is a brownfield site.
[quote][p][bold]Olivia2847[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]marshman[/bold] wrote: If it's not going ahead can they please sort out the Chichester Road - Queensway junction. It's surely one of the poorest road lay outs in the country and forces drivers to make a 3/4 mile diversion just to turn into Short Street. Whoever came up with that idea deserves a rocket up the ar*e.[/p][/quote]Exactly - or - apply for village green status - make it an affordable green space and the law than cannot touch it - some vague ancient legislation I notice being used elsewhere ...[/p][/quote]Don't think it can be done on privatly owned land, own land held by a council, also it is a brownfield site. Max Impact
  • Score: 0

7:43pm Mon 12 Nov 12

Olivia2847 says...

Max Impact wrote:
Olivia2847 wrote:
marshman wrote:
If it's not going ahead can they please sort out the Chichester Road - Queensway junction. It's surely one of the poorest road lay outs in the country and forces drivers to make a 3/4 mile diversion just to turn into Short Street. Whoever came up with that idea deserves a rocket up the ar*e.
Exactly - or - apply for village green status - make it an affordable green space and the law than cannot touch it - some vague ancient legislation I notice being used elsewhere ...
Don't think it can be done on privatly owned land, own land held by a council, also it is a brownfield site.
Thank you ....
[quote][p][bold]Max Impact[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Olivia2847[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]marshman[/bold] wrote: If it's not going ahead can they please sort out the Chichester Road - Queensway junction. It's surely one of the poorest road lay outs in the country and forces drivers to make a 3/4 mile diversion just to turn into Short Street. Whoever came up with that idea deserves a rocket up the ar*e.[/p][/quote]Exactly - or - apply for village green status - make it an affordable green space and the law than cannot touch it - some vague ancient legislation I notice being used elsewhere ...[/p][/quote]Don't think it can be done on privatly owned land, own land held by a council, also it is a brownfield site.[/p][/quote]Thank you .... Olivia2847
  • Score: 0

8:43pm Mon 12 Nov 12

Discouraged says...

Tescos reached the top of the mountain and now they are sliding down on their ARRRRs
Tescos reached the top of the mountain and now they are sliding down on their ARRRRs Discouraged
  • Score: 0

7:32am Tue 13 Nov 12

HK9597 says...

Nebs wrote:
marshman wrote:
If it's not going ahead can they please sort out the Chichester Road - Queensway junction. It's surely one of the poorest road lay outs in the country and forces drivers to make a 3/4 mile diversion just to turn into Short Street. Whoever came up with that idea deserves a rocket up the ar*e.
The sequencing of the lights, when you are heading west along Queensway between Chichester Rd and Victoria Ave, seems wrong too. The first set of lights for the pedestrians to cross seems to go red at the same time as the lights 100 yards further up, where you can turn into Victoria Ave, go green. So fewer cars can get through the green light as they are all backed up at the previous set of red lights looking ahead at an empty road and a green light.
I wrote to the highways agency about this and they denied there is a problem. Came up with some rubbish excuse as to why the pedestrian lights go red at the same time as the lights at Vic avenue go green. Plus a lot of drivers seem to realise there are 2 lanes turning right into Vic avenue.

Every time I do this journey, there are long queues going westbound, and very little coming from any of the other directions.

Write to the echo to see if they will run a story. Maybe that will push them to take some action. I already have.

On a plus point, the lights at the Earls Hall roundabout seem to have worked.
[quote][p][bold]Nebs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]marshman[/bold] wrote: If it's not going ahead can they please sort out the Chichester Road - Queensway junction. It's surely one of the poorest road lay outs in the country and forces drivers to make a 3/4 mile diversion just to turn into Short Street. Whoever came up with that idea deserves a rocket up the ar*e.[/p][/quote]The sequencing of the lights, when you are heading west along Queensway between Chichester Rd and Victoria Ave, seems wrong too. The first set of lights for the pedestrians to cross seems to go red at the same time as the lights 100 yards further up, where you can turn into Victoria Ave, go green. So fewer cars can get through the green light as they are all backed up at the previous set of red lights looking ahead at an empty road and a green light.[/p][/quote]I wrote to the highways agency about this and they denied there is a problem. Came up with some rubbish excuse as to why the pedestrian lights go red at the same time as the lights at Vic avenue go green. Plus a lot of drivers seem to realise there are 2 lanes turning right into Vic avenue. Every time I do this journey, there are long queues going westbound, and very little coming from any of the other directions. Write to the echo to see if they will run a story. Maybe that will push them to take some action. I already have. On a plus point, the lights at the Earls Hall roundabout seem to have worked. HK9597
  • Score: 0

7:36am Tue 13 Nov 12

HK9597 says...

Nebs wrote:
Max Impact wrote:
A few thoughts for use until tesco start work:

1. The old B&Q car park is currently a paid for car park, why not open the building as an indoor car park, rig CCTV, have an attendant on duty, all cars and driver are logged when they go in so only drivers are permitted to enter when collecting cars.

2. Use the building as in indoor market.

3. Demolish the building and use the whole site as a car park.

4. SBC CPO the site and do No3

Sadly people will moan about No4 as they always do when the council spend money!
5. Charge all businesses full business rates after a building has been unused or demolished for 3 years, based on what they paid when it was in use.
Go one further.

After 3 years from granting planning permission, they have to pay full business rates x 3.
After 4 years x 4

And so on....
[quote][p][bold]Nebs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Max Impact[/bold] wrote: A few thoughts for use until tesco start work: 1. The old B&Q car park is currently a paid for car park, why not open the building as an indoor car park, rig CCTV, have an attendant on duty, all cars and driver are logged when they go in so only drivers are permitted to enter when collecting cars. 2. Use the building as in indoor market. 3. Demolish the building and use the whole site as a car park. 4. SBC CPO the site and do No3 Sadly people will moan about No4 as they always do when the council spend money![/p][/quote]5. Charge all businesses full business rates after a building has been unused or demolished for 3 years, based on what they paid when it was in use.[/p][/quote]Go one further. After 3 years from granting planning permission, they have to pay full business rates x 3. After 4 years x 4 And so on.... HK9597
  • Score: 0

11:13am Tue 13 Nov 12

perini says...

I think Tesco has come to the end of its particular gravy train - people are now voting with their feet and have realised that in some of the smaller stores the prices are a rip off, and that Tesco try and ride rough shod over planning laws etc. THe idea of a Tesco on each street corner is abhorent to me and I think other people are now realising this.
I think Tesco has come to the end of its particular gravy train - people are now voting with their feet and have realised that in some of the smaller stores the prices are a rip off, and that Tesco try and ride rough shod over planning laws etc. THe idea of a Tesco on each street corner is abhorent to me and I think other people are now realising this. perini
  • Score: 0

11:18am Thu 15 Nov 12

echoforum says...

I'm glad it's not just me that dreads approaching the Vic Junction from Queensway.
I genuinely dread it ,the comments made are spot on .
To get to sainsburys you face 3 sets of lights,a long queue for the London Rd a long queue for Victoria and the mystery empty middle lane which is abused by frustrated drivers who take this lane for the London Rd,which is of course is dangerous.
To claim that there is no issue with this junction is clearly an error on behalf of our council.
Any build on the B&Q site would probably grid lock an already broken junction
I'm glad it's not just me that dreads approaching the Vic Junction from Queensway. I genuinely dread it ,the comments made are spot on . To get to sainsburys you face 3 sets of lights,a long queue for the London Rd a long queue for Victoria and the mystery empty middle lane which is abused by frustrated drivers who take this lane for the London Rd,which is of course is dangerous. To claim that there is no issue with this junction is clearly an error on behalf of our council. Any build on the B&Q site would probably grid lock an already broken junction echoforum
  • Score: 0

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