Boris pushes for Thames Estuary airport plan (From Southend Standard)

If we do not go forward we go backwards.

Would be great, sadly too many people would object to it being close to them.

However the same people will gladly drive to Heathrow or Gatwick and fly from there.

If BoJo the Clown wants an airport he build it in London. He's not mayor of Essex or Kent, so he can f*ck off.

It's a great idea, 20 years non stop employment for all in the building industry, and the chance of a bridge from Canvey to Kent.

Nebs wrote:
It's a great idea, 20 years non stop employment for all in the building industry, and the chance of a bridge from Canvey to Kent.

Only if those builders live in Kent. And only if you want a new motorway - and all the associated congestion and pollution - where the A130 used to be.

For Essex it means the closure of Southend airport, thousands of jobs lost, not just at the airport but the companies and vendors who take their business from airport trade. It means Stobart leaving Southend. It means the death of Southend's tourism business because no-one wants to go to a seaside that looks at an airport.

So if you want all that then yes, an estuary airport is a brilliant idea. For Kent.

Cheap option I see Boris prefers. So much for concern with the environment. Bird strikes come to mind as already highlighted locally by Easyjet. Thought the expansion of smaller airports like Southend were the preferred way forward. The 2nd runway at Stansted is more likely in reality. Usual muddled Tory conflictive thinking on transport.

This is just posturing, as no one in their right mind supports an estuary airport. It would be an environmental catastrophe the like of which Britain has never seen before, and would blow apart Cameron's claim to be the greenest government ever.

In addition, how could it possibly be afforded? It is not just the airport, but the road and rail links to London which would be phenomenally expensive and complicated given how built up Kent and Essex are.

As for Stansted, its usage is actually falling as the large airlines won't use it.

Obvious answers are a third runway at Heathrow, and/or use of RAF Northolt, a second runway at Gatwick, with a fast rail link between the two, and if necessary, which I doubt, modest expansion at Stansted and Luton.

eurodoomed wrote:
This is just posturing, as no one in their right mind supports an estuary airport. It would be an environmental catastrophe the like of which Britain has never seen before, and would blow apart Cameron's claim to be the greenest government ever. In addition, how could it possibly be afforded? It is not just the airport, but the road and rail links to London which would be phenomenally expensive and complicated given how built up Kent and Essex are. As for Stansted, its usage is actually falling as the large airlines won't use it. Obvious answers are a third runway at Heathrow, and/or use of RAF Northolt, a second runway at Gatwick, with a fast rail link between the two, and if necessary, which I doubt, modest expansion at Stansted and Luton.

Please explain why won't the large air-lines use Stansted? I would have thought that with a long run way it would be ideal - but apparantly not!

Second runway at Southend,

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This is a joke, you know ha ha

Boris looks like Myra Hindley in the Echo's picture. He is certainly deranged in believing in an estuary airport.

flatten the old oil refinery, boot out the gas terminal, flatten and tarmac Canvey and Boris is yer uncle.....

Benfleet Station for the passengers arriving by rail. Canvey Way from Sadlers Farm as the road in and out.

Sorted.

southendshrimper wrote:
Second runway at Southend,

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This is a joke, you know ha ha

They could just extend the current runway a bit more, so as we can have proper big planes that fly to anywhere in the world.

i see that the echo really oppose this idea, 'just look at the picture of Boris above'

bores is the ONLY Tory who I have time for.

this airport is going to happen, I think its the most sensible option on the table for long term transport strategy. Southend and Kent could benefit from massive Infrastructure enhancement to road and rail connections and boost in trade. if Southend airport played its cards right then it could be used to service the aircraft 'empty fights (less noise)'

I have no idea why SBC and the Echo oppose it. it could be a boost that the south east of England and the national economy needs.

we cant keep the pressure on clapped out transport links and gridlocked roads any longer.

a massive project like this is the proven way of stimulating an economy.

(empty 'fights') should have been flights. oops

jayman wrote:
i see that the echo really oppose this idea, 'just look at the picture of Boris above'

bores is the ONLY Tory who I have time for.

this airport is going to happen, I think its the most sensible option on the table for long term transport strategy. Southend and Kent could benefit from massive Infrastructure enhancement to road and rail connections and boost in trade. if Southend airport played its cards right then it could be used to service the aircraft 'empty fights (less noise)'

I have no idea why SBC and the Echo oppose it. it could be a boost that the south east of England and the national economy needs.

we cant keep the pressure on clapped out transport links and gridlocked roads any longer.

a massive project like this is the proven way of stimulating an economy.

How will Southend benefit? There's a bloody great river in between us and where this fictitious airport would be.

aduksquack wrote:

jayman wrote:
i see that the echo really oppose this idea, 'just look at the picture of Boris above'

bores is the ONLY Tory who I have time for.

this airport is going to happen, I think its the most sensible option on the table for long term transport strategy. Southend and Kent could benefit from massive Infrastructure enhancement to road and rail connections and boost in trade. if Southend airport played its cards right then it could be used to service the aircraft 'empty fights (less noise)'

I have no idea why SBC and the Echo oppose it. it could be a boost that the south east of England and the national economy needs.

we cant keep the pressure on clapped out transport links and gridlocked roads any longer.

a massive project like this is the proven way of stimulating an economy.

How will Southend benefit? There's a bloody great river in between us and where this fictitious airport would be.

Here's the science bit!

at some point, at some stage. the little people flying on the big plane will need to come to the green land with all the buildings on it..

this will be made possible by a tunnel or bridge or both. the bridge will also be a big gate that will stop all the floody water from making everyone very wet..

and if the boffin's are very clever they may even see the potential of tidal energy incorporated in a tidal barrier from the fast flowing Thames tides. this would help carbon offset the impact of the airport.

The big issue is and it is a very BIG issue is the fact that British Airways who make up over 50% of Heathrow movements have said that they would not use it. BAA are not going to want to loose that number of movements.

As has been said before, farm the flights out, no domestic flights at Heathrow instead send them to an upgraded RAF Northolt a very much under used airport, Southend could take some as could an upgraded Biggin HIll, slash the number of short haul Europian flight at Heathrow with Stansted & Gatwick picking them up, hi speed trains to Gatwick & Stansted.

What about the sea birds, sea fog, Foulness and current wind farms and the new London Array under constructuin all issues to a new airport in the outer Thames Estuary, the proposal opposite Southend on the Isle of Grain has the same propblems (apart from the wind farms & Foulness) however the issue of the Richard Montgomery again pops up as a rather large blip!

Would the pople who work at Haethrow want to travel all the way down here? what about the job lesses at Heathrow and its local area? and WTF had Essex and Kent got to do with BoJo.

The only thing that makes sence in BoJo's plans to dominate the whole of the Southeast is a new runway at Stansted.

jayman wrote:

aduksquack wrote:

jayman wrote:
i see that the echo really oppose this idea, 'just look at the picture of Boris above'

bores is the ONLY Tory who I have time for.

this airport is going to happen, I think its the most sensible option on the table for long term transport strategy. Southend and Kent could benefit from massive Infrastructure enhancement to road and rail connections and boost in trade. if Southend airport played its cards right then it could be used to service the aircraft 'empty fights (less noise)'

I have no idea why SBC and the Echo oppose it. it could be a boost that the south east of England and the national economy needs.

we cant keep the pressure on clapped out transport links and gridlocked roads any longer.

a massive project like this is the proven way of stimulating an economy.

How will Southend benefit? There's a bloody great river in between us and where this fictitious airport would be.

Here's the science bit!

at some point, at some stage. the little people flying on the big plane will need to come to the green land with all the buildings on it..

this will be made possible by a tunnel or bridge or both. the bridge will also be a big gate that will stop all the floody water from making everyone very wet..

Here's the geography bit: the airport is proposed for the Kent side of the estuary. Why build bridges and tunnels to Essex when all they would have to do is link up with the much closer A2(M)?

aduksquack wrote:

jayman wrote:

aduksquack wrote:

jayman wrote:
i see that the echo really oppose this idea, 'just look at the picture of Boris above'

bores is the ONLY Tory who I have time for.

this airport is going to happen, I think its the most sensible option on the table for long term transport strategy. Southend and Kent could benefit from massive Infrastructure enhancement to road and rail connections and boost in trade. if Southend airport played its cards right then it could be used to service the aircraft 'empty fights (less noise)'

I have no idea why SBC and the Echo oppose it. it could be a boost that the south east of England and the national economy needs.

we cant keep the pressure on clapped out transport links and gridlocked roads any longer.

a massive project like this is the proven way of stimulating an economy.

How will Southend benefit? There's a bloody great river in between us and where this fictitious airport would be.

Here's the science bit!

at some point, at some stage. the little people flying on the big plane will need to come to the green land with all the buildings on it..

this will be made possible by a tunnel or bridge or both. the bridge will also be a big gate that will stop all the floody water from making everyone very wet..

Here's the geography bit: the airport is proposed for the Kent side of the estuary. Why build bridges and tunnels to Essex when all they would have to do is link up with the much closer A2(M)?

there are three different plans for a potential airport in the estuary. the latest plan is for a floating airport with tunnel connections to kent and Southend. the second is for a bridged island airport connected to shoebury and Kent. the third is for the isle of grain.

jayman wrote:

aduksquack wrote:

jayman wrote:

aduksquack wrote:

jayman wrote:
i see that the echo really oppose this idea, 'just look at the picture of Boris above'

bores is the ONLY Tory who I have time for.

this airport is going to happen, I think its the most sensible option on the table for long term transport strategy. Southend and Kent could benefit from massive Infrastructure enhancement to road and rail connections and boost in trade. if Southend airport played its cards right then it could be used to service the aircraft 'empty fights (less noise)'

I have no idea why SBC and the Echo oppose it. it could be a boost that the south east of England and the national economy needs.

we cant keep the pressure on clapped out transport links and gridlocked roads any longer.

a massive project like this is the proven way of stimulating an economy.

How will Southend benefit? There's a bloody great river in between us and where this fictitious airport would be.

Here's the science bit!

at some point, at some stage. the little people flying on the big plane will need to come to the green land with all the buildings on it..

this will be made possible by a tunnel or bridge or both. the bridge will also be a big gate that will stop all the floody water from making everyone very wet..

Here's the geography bit: the airport is proposed for the Kent side of the estuary. Why build bridges and tunnels to Essex when all they would have to do is link up with the much closer A2(M)?

there are three different plans for a potential airport in the estuary. the latest plan is for a floating airport with tunnel connections to kent and Southend. the second is for a bridged island airport connected to shoebury and Kent. the third is for the isle of grain.

So no locations within Boris's jurisdiction then - best he keeps his snout out where it's not wanted!

Boris has been a success in London for example the cycle scheme is excellent.... One thing is certain we need another bridge or tunnel between Essex and Kent as the M25 is outdated and congested. London needs a decent airport that can expand in the future so the Thames estuary airport makes sense considering a new £multi-million sea port has opened making import / export big business for the UK to supply Europe.

Shame some MP's are too inept to understand this.....?

NEW THAMES AIRPORT PLS

LadyOr wrote:
Boris has been a success in London for example the cycle scheme is excellent.... One thing is certain we need another bridge or tunnel between Essex and Kent as the M25 is outdated and congested. London needs a decent airport that can expand in the future so the Thames estuary airport makes sense considering a new £multi-million sea port has opened making import / export big business for the UK to supply Europe.

Shame some MP's are too inept to understand this.....?

NEW THAMES AIRPORT PLS

The cycle scheme was instigated by Ken Livingstone, and only completed after the mayoral elections. BoJo simply took undeserved credit for it.