Pupils fall foul of the school uniform police (From Southend Standard)

Blind Haze wrote:
The letter said black shoes. The mother's holding blue shoes. Did she think the rules didn't apply to her daughter?

shoebury52 wrote:
Fully enclosed shoes so that does not mean pumps. Some parents just wanna get there pic in the paper. There first day back probably done sweet f.a anyway. The schools are trying to smarten up, anyway 5ft 7 for a girl nowadays is not tall the mother makes out that she is a giant from another planet.

Baker-Boy wrote:
Mr / Ms aduksquack.

Im sorry but who die and put you incharge of spelling and im sorry but alot of people put comment on here in a rush, on there phone. you fully understood the message so the job was done now please take up exam paper marking if you wish to correct mistakes

JuliaM wrote:

Blind Haze wrote: The letter said black shoes. The mother's holding blue shoes. Did she think the rules didn't apply to her daughter?

It's possible that's just a trick of the camera light? Me, I'd have sent them home just for the odd hair colour and the sulky, pouty looks on their defiant faces!

aduksquack wrote:

shoebury52 wrote:
Fully enclosed shoes so that does not mean pumps. Some parents just wanna get there pic in the paper. There first day back probably done sweet f.a anyway. The schools are trying to smarten up, anyway 5ft 7 for a girl nowadays is not tall the mother makes out that she is a giant from another planet.

"Fully enclosed shoes COMMA so that does not mean pumps. Some parents just WANT TO get THEIR PICTURE in the paper. THEIR first day back SO THEY probably DID sweet f.a anyway. The schools are trying to smarten up, anyway 5ft 7 for a girl nowadays is not tall the mother makes out that she is a giant from another planet."


Maybe you should have paid more attention at school too.

Baker-Boy wrote:
Mr / Ms aduksquack.

Im sorry but who die and put you incharge of spelling and im sorry but alot of people put comment on here in a rush, on there phone. you fully understood the message so the job was done now please take up exam paper marking if you wish to correct mistakes

LSLA wrote:
OK so they have not met the standards of the school but did the school really need to send them home??

Kids get sent home so easily these days - like it's a punishment for them, i imagine that they don't really care.

Inform the parents that these kids are not wearing the uniform that was set out and give them a 3 week deadline to get it sorted.

I would however send them home for the amount of make up they have on their faces. Don't understand why young girls have to wear so much.

aduksquack wrote:

Baker-Boy wrote:
Mr / Ms aduksquack.

Im sorry but who die and put you incharge of spelling and im sorry but alot of people put comment on here in a rush, on there phone. you fully understood the message so the job was done now please take up exam paper marking if you wish to correct mistakes

Baker-Boy wrote:
"Mr/Ms aduksquack. I APOSTROPHE m sorry but who DIED and put you in SPACE charge of spelling and CAPITAL I APOSTRPHE m sorry but a SPACE lot of people put comment on here in a rush, on THEIR phoneS. CAPITAL Y ou fully understood the message so the job was done FULL STOP CAPITAL N ow please take up exam paper marking if you wish to correct mistakes FULL STOP"

aduksquack wrote:
*That should be 'apostrophe' in the second instance.

shoebury52 wrote:

LSLA wrote:
OK so they have not met the standards of the school but did the school really need to send them home??

Kids get sent home so easily these days - like it's a punishment for them, i imagine that they don't really care.

Inform the parents that these kids are not wearing the uniform that was set out and give them a 3 week deadline to get it sorted.

I would however send them home for the amount of make up they have on their faces. Don't understand why young girls have to wear so much.

So it's not ok to send them home for there wrong uniform, but is ok to send them home for to much make up.

Why not just a letter home to tell parents then give them 3 weeks to sort there faces out?

aduksquack wrote:

shoebury52 wrote:

LSLA wrote:
OK so they have not met the standards of the school but did the school really need to send them home??

Kids get sent home so easily these days - like it's a punishment for them, i imagine that they don't really care.

Inform the parents that these kids are not wearing the uniform that was set out and give them a 3 week deadline to get it sorted.

I would however send them home for the amount of make up they have on their faces. Don't understand why young girls have to wear so much.

So it's not ok to send them home for there wrong uniform, but is ok to send them home for to much make up.

Why not just a letter home to tell parents then give them 3 weeks to sort there faces out?

"So it's not ok to send them home for THEIR wrong uniform, but IT is ok to send them home for TOO much make up. Why not just a letter home to tell parents then give them 3 weeks to sort THEIR faces out?"

:)

aduksquack wrote:

Baker-Boy wrote:
Mr / Ms aduksquack.

Im sorry but who die and put you incharge of spelling and im sorry but alot of people put comment on here in a rush, on there phone. you fully understood the message so the job was done now please take up exam paper marking if you wish to correct mistakes

Baker-Boy wrote:
"Mr/Ms aduksquack. I APOSTROPHE m sorry but who DIED and put you in SPACE charge of spelling and CAPITAL I APOSTRPHE m sorry but a SPACE lot of people put comment on here in a rush, on THEIR phoneS. CAPITAL Y ou fully understood the message so the job was done FULL STOP CAPITAL N ow please take up exam paper marking if you wish to correct mistakes FULL STOP"

sharry wrote:
Rules are rules, what are we teaching our children when we allow them and partake in, (because i'm sure the children don't pay for their own uniforms), blatantly disobeying the rules, it's there in black and white, and then to have the cheek to call the papers and have a moan when they are called out on it! I don't get it

benfleet101 wrote:

aduksquack wrote:

Baker-Boy wrote:
Mr / Ms aduksquack.

Im sorry but who die and put you incharge of spelling and im sorry but alot of people put comment on here in a rush, on there phone. you fully understood the message so the job was done now please take up exam paper marking if you wish to correct mistakes

Baker-Boy wrote:
"Mr/Ms aduksquack. I APOSTROPHE m sorry but who DIED and put you in SPACE charge of spelling and CAPITAL I APOSTRPHE m sorry but a SPACE lot of people put comment on here in a rush, on THEIR phoneS. CAPITAL Y ou fully understood the message so the job was done FULL STOP CAPITAL N ow please take up exam paper marking if you wish to correct mistakes FULL STOP"

Are you aware that is it considered extremely bad manners to correct someone's spelling and/or grammar?

benfleet101 wrote:

aduksquack wrote:

Baker-Boy wrote:
Mr / Ms aduksquack.

Im sorry but who die and put you incharge of spelling and im sorry but alot of people put comment on here in a rush, on there phone. you fully understood the message so the job was done now please take up exam paper marking if you wish to correct mistakes

Baker-Boy wrote:
"Mr/Ms aduksquack. I APOSTROPHE m sorry but who DIED and put you in SPACE charge of spelling and CAPITAL I APOSTRPHE m sorry but a SPACE lot of people put comment on here in a rush, on THEIR phoneS. CAPITAL Y ou fully understood the message so the job was done FULL STOP CAPITAL N ow please take up exam paper marking if you wish to correct mistakes FULL STOP"

Are you aware that is it considered extremely bad manners to correct someone's spelling and/or grammar?

benfleet101 wrote:

aduksquack wrote:

Baker-Boy wrote:
Mr / Ms aduksquack.

Im sorry but who die and put you incharge of spelling and im sorry but alot of people put comment on here in a rush, on there phone. you fully understood the message so the job was done now please take up exam paper marking if you wish to correct mistakes

Baker-Boy wrote:
"Mr/Ms aduksquack. I APOSTROPHE m sorry but who DIED and put you in SPACE charge of spelling and CAPITAL I APOSTRPHE m sorry but a SPACE lot of people put comment on here in a rush, on THEIR phoneS. CAPITAL Y ou fully understood the message so the job was done FULL STOP CAPITAL N ow please take up exam paper marking if you wish to correct mistakes FULL STOP"

Are you aware that is it considered extremely bad manners to correct someone's spelling and/or grammar?

Sensible of Leigh wrote:

sharry wrote:
Rules are rules, what are we teaching our children when we allow them and partake in, (because i'm sure the children don't pay for their own uniforms), blatantly disobeying the rules, it's there in black and white, and then to have the cheek to call the papers and have a moan when they are called out on it! I don't get it

Rules are rules - no defence at Nuremburg!!

My views on the irrelevance of uniforms are seen in an earlier post. A factor which has not been discussed and seems even more invidious is that pupils have to buy their uniform from a single 'outsourced' outlet if they attend Eastwood Secondary School. It is my understanding that this goes against recommended good practice and may even be illegal, but then it is an Academy which is not answerable to the Local Authority or any local people but only to Mr Gove, who is well known for making and breaking rules. Uniform from one source, a school part of a system controlled by a single person in London, if you didn't know this school was in Leigh you might have thought it was based in a totalitarian state where individuals are not encouraged to be individuals

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:

Sensible of Leigh wrote:

sharry wrote: Rules are rules, what are we teaching our children when we allow them and partake in, (because i'm sure the children don't pay for their own uniforms), blatantly disobeying the rules, it's there in black and white, and then to have the cheek to call the papers and have a moan when they are called out on it! I don't get it

Rules are rules - no defence at Nuremburg!! My views on the irrelevance of uniforms are seen in an earlier post. A factor which has not been discussed and seems even more invidious is that pupils have to buy their uniform from a single 'outsourced' outlet if they attend Eastwood Secondary School. It is my understanding that this goes against recommended good practice and may even be illegal, but then it is an Academy which is not answerable to the Local Authority or any local people but only to Mr Gove, who is well known for making and breaking rules. Uniform from one source, a school part of a system controlled by a single person in London, if you didn't know this school was in Leigh you might have thought it was based in a totalitarian state where individuals are not encouraged to be individuals

a ridiculous comment from someone who professes to be sensible. if you can't follow simple rules don't send your child to eastwood - it's not rocket science

Sensible of Leigh wrote:

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:

Sensible of Leigh wrote:

sharry wrote: Rules are rules, what are we teaching our children when we allow them and partake in, (because i'm sure the children don't pay for their own uniforms), blatantly disobeying the rules, it's there in black and white, and then to have the cheek to call the papers and have a moan when they are called out on it! I don't get it

Rules are rules - no defence at Nuremburg!! My views on the irrelevance of uniforms are seen in an earlier post. A factor which has not been discussed and seems even more invidious is that pupils have to buy their uniform from a single 'outsourced' outlet if they attend Eastwood Secondary School. It is my understanding that this goes against recommended good practice and may even be illegal, but then it is an Academy which is not answerable to the Local Authority or any local people but only to Mr Gove, who is well known for making and breaking rules. Uniform from one source, a school part of a system controlled by a single person in London, if you didn't know this school was in Leigh you might have thought it was based in a totalitarian state where individuals are not encouraged to be individuals

a ridiculous comment from someone who professes to be sensible. if you can't follow simple rules don't send your child to eastwood - it's not rocket science

I wonder which aspect of the comment I made is ridiculous? The writer gave no indication of why they support irrelevant rules about uniform or how they help in a pupil's ability to learn. Has the writer any evidence which supports his / her argument? I have based my opinion on a study of various education systems in countries other than the UK. Is the writer really saying a pupil should denied access to their local school because they are wearing the wrong kind of black trousers? Perhaps a high ranking official in North Korea might agree with him / her, but in a supposedly tolerant western country! As I stated in my original post it never ceases to amaze me how parents, the media and some schools have this obsession with uniform. It is so irrelevant to standards of education and quality of learning that nobody should waste time and effort on this issue, as indeed I intend to do once I've posted this last post!

Steve H wrote:
It is wrong that uniform can only be brought from a specified supplier. If we could only buy electricity from a specified supplier there would be outrage.

However, there is a choice and as parents make that choice they have to abide by the rules of their choice.

Oh and by the way, is that an Ooompa Loompa 2nd back on the left of the picture?!

Alec Cikes wrote:
Most def Devil's fury; It's called discipline something that is slowly being eroded over the years.
Bring it back, re-inforce it & make sure it works, straight ties, polished shoes and walking in the corridors on the left. Form a queue outside the class & be invited in by your teachers. Sit wehn you've been asked to sit. Let's get some good old ground rules being applied to the schools of today. It will do the future's generation a bit of justice & will teach some pride and respect.
Good on the schooé for sending the kids back home to go back to school more suitable dressed.

shoebury52 wrote:

LSLA wrote: OK so they have not met the standards of the school but did the school really need to send them home?? Kids get sent home so easily these days - like it's a punishment for them, i imagine that they don't really care. Inform the parents that these kids are not wearing the uniform that was set out and give them a 3 week deadline to get it sorted. I would however send them home for the amount of make up they have on their faces. Don't understand why young girls have to wear so much.

So it's not ok to send them home for there wrong uniform, but is ok to send them home for to much make up. Why not just a letter home to tell parents then give them 3 weeks to sort there faces out?

LSLA wrote:

shoebury52 wrote:

LSLA wrote: OK so they have not met the standards of the school but did the school really need to send them home?? Kids get sent home so easily these days - like it's a punishment for them, i imagine that they don't really care. Inform the parents that these kids are not wearing the uniform that was set out and give them a 3 week deadline to get it sorted. I would however send them home for the amount of make up they have on their faces. Don't understand why young girls have to wear so much.

So it's not ok to send them home for there wrong uniform, but is ok to send them home for to much make up. Why not just a letter home to tell parents then give them 3 weeks to sort there faces out?

Jeez i forget some people don't have personalities on here and don't understand a joke/sarcasm.

Course i wouldn't send them home for wearing the make up, i would approach it the same way as the school uniform but maybe a shorter deadline.

shoebury52 wrote:

LSLA wrote:

shoebury52 wrote:

LSLA wrote: OK so they have not met the standards of the school but did the school really need to send them home?? Kids get sent home so easily these days - like it's a punishment for them, i imagine that they don't really care. Inform the parents that these kids are not wearing the uniform that was set out and give them a 3 week deadline to get it sorted. I would however send them home for the amount of make up they have on their faces. Don't understand why young girls have to wear so much.

So it's not ok to send them home for there wrong uniform, but is ok to send them home for to much make up. Why not just a letter home to tell parents then give them 3 weeks to sort there faces out?

Jeez i forget some people don't have personalities on here and don't understand a joke/sarcasm. Course i wouldn't send them home for wearing the make up, i would approach it the same way as the school uniform but maybe a shorter deadline.

No make up on kids. They don't need it, it's school not a party, it's about respect for themselves, the school, there environment they are in and for others around them. Guess I will be crucified again for sharing an opinion