Prittlewell Prince haul to go on tour (From Southend Standard)

Looks like a fair deal (on the face of it)

I think the main issue will be security, although none of the individual
artefacts have any great monetary value.

Anything metallic would be at risk around here!

When did we start calling the person buried in Priory Crescent the "Prittlewell Prince" instead of the "Saxon King"? Have I missed something here, has evidence been found that Prittlewell was it's principality?

SAXON KING Pahleese ! - not a disney character called the Prittlewell Prince ! Just because the Council want to re-brand the King, for reasons completely unknown to any of us ! at least give him his proper title. Interesting that, once again, Peter Vadden has been rolled out as the SBC spokesman, because when PV attended our meeting of the Clifftown Conservation Society to discuss the very subject of the SAXON KING, two days later the Acting Head of Media, denounced Peter Vadden as NOT being the Council's representative on this issue - so which is it, is Pete the Pretender the Purveyor of Potentially Potent Plots or is Pete the Pretender aspiring above his pay grade, perhaps the Echo should do a bit more research !

We would all welcome the Saxon King back to the borough of Southend and a museum or educational centre to house his artefacts would be wonderful for the people of Southend and those visiting us.
Everything has its place and it is the location and the deception that so many of us oppose in the current plans for the Cliff development which will have within it the suggested museum.
Keep the green open space available to us all, and find a new home for the Saxon King.

Highly debatable whether he was a "king", just as likely he was a local Saxon warlord or chieftan.

Truth Will Prevail wrote:
Highly debatable whether he was a "king", just as likely he was a local Saxon warlord or chieftan.

Quite right.

We have no idea who it was.

Just think..there could be, in Prittlewell, descendants of the Germanic Hordes that came to these shores, and they think they are English..LOL

sKorch wrote:
Just think..there could be, in Prittlewell, descendants of the Germanic Hordes that came to these shores, and they think they are English..LOL

Not so fast. The DNA evidence tells us that half our genes come from the earliest mesolithic hunter/gatherers who came here after the last ice age. Much of the other half comes from the Scandinavian/Germani
c countries, but in case you have forgotten your history we haven't been invaded since the Norman conquest which is an enviable record compared to most European countries, makes us more pure-bred than most.

A very good reply "TWP".. it does prove to my doubters that I am descended from the "mesolithic hunter/gatherers" ( without the cross-contamination from the later Scandinavian/Germani
c )and so am truly from the indigenous poulation....Cheers

sKorch wrote:
A very good reply "TWP".. it does prove to my doubters that I am descended from the "mesolithic hunter/gatherers" ( without the cross-contamination from the later Scandinavian/Germani c )and so am truly from the indigenous poulation....Cheers

How do you make that out? Pretty unlikely that your ancestors are the only ones who have not picked up a good dose of Scandinavian/Germani
c genes along with a smattering of Mediteranean Neolithic and Middle eastern DNA unless you are from a line of in-bred cave dwelling hermits.

look after it or Southendians will go mad. It's ours.

Following their discovery, the treasures were whipped away by the Museum of London, which has automatic control over such artefacts, to ensure they did not deteriorate.

I'm shocked no one has blamed SBC for the museum of London taking them.

southendshrimper wrote:
Following their discovery, the treasures were whipped away by the Museum of London, which has automatic control over such artefacts, to ensure they did not deteriorate. I'm shocked no one has blamed SBC for the museum of London taking them.

You & me both!

Bosniavet wrote:

southendshrimper wrote: Following their discovery, the treasures were whipped away by the Museum of London, which has automatic control over such artefacts, to ensure they did not deteriorate. I'm shocked no one has blamed SBC for the museum of London taking them.

You & me both!

Why is nobody picking up on the fact that it is SBC’s fault the poor man was buried there in the first place, if they had acted sooner the people who performed the illegal burial could have been traced and prosecuted, it is time we were told who was in charge and who has failed in their job they must be sacked with immediate effect.

;)

southendshrimper wrote:
Following their discovery, the treasures were whipped away by the Museum of London, which has automatic control over such artefacts, to ensure they did not deteriorate.

I'm shocked no one has blamed SBC for the museum of London taking them.

Treasure items would normally go to the BM for conservation, but in this case as the excavation was carried out by people from the MoL, they were taken there for conservation work.
This is not work which could have been undertaken in Southend.

Truth Will Prevail wrote:

sKorch wrote:
Just think..there could be, in Prittlewell, descendants of the Germanic Hordes that came to these shores, and they think they are English..LOL

Not so fast. The DNA evidence tells us that half our genes come from the earliest mesolithic hunter/gatherers who came here after the last ice age. Much of the other half comes from the Scandinavian/Germani

c countries, but in case you have forgotten your history we haven't been invaded since the Norman conquest which is an enviable record compared to most European countries, makes us more pure-bred than most.

Not been invaded since the Norman conquest ? Try telling that to the people of Crays Hill !
;-)

Exactly. A curse on all politicians.

Truth Will Prevail wrote:

sKorch wrote:
Just think..there could be, in Prittlewell, descendants of the Germanic Hordes that came to these shores, and they think they are English..LOL

Not so fast. The DNA evidence tells us that half our genes come from the earliest mesolithic hunter/gatherers who came here after the last ice age. Much of the other half comes from the Scandinavian/Germani

c countries, but in case you have forgotten your history we haven't been invaded since the Norman conquest which is an enviable record compared to most European countries, makes us more pure-bred than most.

And more inbred than most!

Every living person is an immigrant to whatever European country they are in regardless of how long they have been there.

It's all just a matter of time.

Which would then expose the issue of a person coming from a country, say 50 years ago, and a person born in the country a week a go!

Who has more claim to be from the country if the time issue is the decider

The person living there 50 years or the person born there for a week who ancestors came from another place perhaps thousands of years ago?

No one has claim over another to any country other than by saying they were there longer! And as the example iv given even that isn't straight forward!

Still trying to justify your ILLEGAL habitation of Dale Farm E-Types? Like many simple minded people you try to justify your actions with convoluted arguments that do not reflect reality. You obviously won't get this but there is a huge difference between someone like myself who can trace my ancestors back centuries and the kids on Dale Farm who were born there during your iLLEGAL occupation. The clue is in the word ILLEGAL.

Truth Will Prevail wrote:
Still trying to justify your ILLEGAL habitation of Dale Farm E-Types? Like many simple minded people you try to justify your actions with convoluted arguments that do not reflect reality. You obviously won't get this but there is a huge difference between someone like myself who can trace my ancestors back centuries and the kids on Dale Farm who were born there during your iLLEGAL occupation. The clue is in the word ILLEGAL.

Im sure you are struggling to deal with what was stated in my previous post! Re-visit it and see what you can come up with.

" there is a huge difference between someone like myself who can trace my ancestors back centuries and the kids on Dale Farm who were born there during your iLLEGAL occupation."

Strange! How can the sort of house/property/land your parents live in/on, while you are born in a hospital in the area, make a difference to your citizenship of the country of your birth?

Can you perhaps explain that, as that does seem to be a contention developed in an undeveloped, and dare i say, simple mind!

I know of a child born in a supermarket! Does that make the child a citizen of Tesco?


But never the less, Can you explain the difference between you and children born in Basildon?

The ancestors of the people from DF have been in this country 1,600 years. Where were you ancestors then?

Up trees some might suggest reading your posts, but i would never agree that was the case. Although i have heard that some people who post about DF can use a knife and folk to eat while typing.... with their tail.

But look here, I take it you were born in Essex so were many people of DF...Difference?

You can trace your family back centuries in this country...so can they (even by name) Difference?

You are aware (i take it) what country your ancestors came from when they first came to this country...so are they. Difference?

Your ancestors came from Africa into the European countries before TRAVELLING to the UK...so did theirs! Difference?

All people originate from EMIGRATING TRAVELLERS. You are no different only think you are.


BTW You seem to be agreeing with what i state ie that its all about time.

Now back to the issue, Why hasn't this bowl been cleaned...its filthy!
No self-respecting caveman would eat his cornflakes out of it...would you?

Go away and stop wasting your time trying to convince us that you deserve to be here - you don't. Your claim that your ancestors have been here over 1600 years is absolute nonsense, true gypsies may have been here that long but gypsies are Asian in origin and you are clearly not Asian, you lot are scummy irish who have been in ireland for centuries, not here, which does give you the right to live in Ireland but doesn't give you the right to live here. Your mindless waffle counts for nothing matey, so go back to where you belong because we don't want you and your scummy criminal kind over here. End of.

Going back to the museum...

Truth Will Prevail wrote:
Go away and stop wasting your time trying to convince us that you deserve to be here - you don't. Your claim that your ancestors have been here over 1600 years is absolute nonsense, true gypsies may have been here that long but gypsies are Asian in origin and you are clearly not Asian, you lot are scummy irish who have been in ireland for centuries, not here, which does give you the right to live in Ireland but doesn't give you the right to live here. Your mindless waffle counts for nothing matey, so go back to where you belong because we don't want you and your scummy criminal kind over here. End of.

Im sure you obviously think that YOU have some say in anything. Which of course is all part of your weird make-up.

'matey' you count for nothing and im sure are you are aware of that!

The fact that you cant reply to my post without resorting to your usual crap shows what a degenerate you are.

Its clear you have got no idea where you came from nor where your going, but id guess by your crass posts its not that long ago you dragged yourself out of the slime and your still shiny from it.

1,600 yrs and counting. Your relatives were still living in caves then after coming recently down from trees. You could easy go back as you havent evolved much in that time. LOL.

There are many more times criminals from your stock than those you try to malign and that is fact.

BTE The Romany came here 500 years ago during the time of Henry the V111. Pavee Travellers were documented here already by then.

You are from Africa mate like we all are, the only difference is as mentioned you have not evolved as the rest of us have!

Now put your tail in your pocket and skedaddle up the nearest tree.

And that is a more realistic End of!

On topic!

Im looking forward to seeing this bowl and other pieces, they should be displayed not stuck in a cupboard for years.

At least the fact that these artefacts have been locked away means they haven't (yet) been stolen and sold for scrap.
;-)

King El wrote:
At least the fact that these artefacts have been locked away means they haven't (yet) been stolen and sold for scrap.
;-)

Yawn!

E-Types wrote:

Truth Will Prevail wrote: Go away and stop wasting your time trying to convince us that you deserve to be here - you don't. Your claim that your ancestors have been here over 1600 years is absolute nonsense, true gypsies may have been here that long but gypsies are Asian in origin and you are clearly not Asian, you lot are scummy irish who have been in ireland for centuries, not here, which does give you the right to live in Ireland but doesn't give you the right to live here. Your mindless waffle counts for nothing matey, so go back to where you belong because we don't want you and your scummy criminal kind over here. End of.

Im sure you obviously think that YOU have some say in anything. Which of course is all part of your weird make-up. 'matey' you count for nothing and im sure are you are aware of that! The fact that you cant reply to my post without resorting to your usual crap shows what a degenerate you are. Its clear you have got no idea where you came from nor where your going, but id guess by your crass posts its not that long ago you dragged yourself out of the slime and your still shiny from it. 1,600 yrs and counting. Your relatives were still living in caves then after coming recently down from trees. You could easy go back as you havent evolved much in that time. LOL. There are many more times criminals from your stock than those you try to malign and that is fact. BTE The Romany came here 500 years ago during the time of Henry the V111. Pavee Travellers were documented here already by then. You are from Africa mate like we all are, the only difference is as mentioned you have not evolved as the rest of us have! Now put your tail in your pocket and skedaddle up the nearest tree. And that is a more realistic End of! On topic! Im looking forward to seeing this bowl and other pieces, they should be displayed not stuck in a cupboard for years.

No point continuing this, can't educate pork.

Truth Will Prevail wrote:

E-Types wrote:

Truth Will Prevail wrote: Go away and stop wasting your time trying to convince us that you deserve to be here - you don't. Your claim that your ancestors have been here over 1600 years is absolute nonsense, true gypsies may have been here that long but gypsies are Asian in origin and you are clearly not Asian, you lot are scummy irish who have been in ireland for centuries, not here, which does give you the right to live in Ireland but doesn't give you the right to live here. Your mindless waffle counts for nothing matey, so go back to where you belong because we don't want you and your scummy criminal kind over here. End of.

Im sure you obviously think that YOU have some say in anything. Which of course is all part of your weird make-up. 'matey' you count for nothing and im sure are you are aware of that! The fact that you cant reply to my post without resorting to your usual crap shows what a degenerate you are. Its clear you have got no idea where you came from nor where your going, but id guess by your crass posts its not that long ago you dragged yourself out of the slime and your still shiny from it. 1,600 yrs and counting. Your relatives were still living in caves then after coming recently down from trees. You could easy go back as you havent evolved much in that time. LOL. There are many more times criminals from your stock than those you try to malign and that is fact. BTE The Romany came here 500 years ago during the time of Henry the V111. Pavee Travellers were documented here already by then. You are from Africa mate like we all are, the only difference is as mentioned you have not evolved as the rest of us have! Now put your tail in your pocket and skedaddle up the nearest tree. And that is a more realistic End of! On topic! Im looking forward to seeing this bowl and other pieces, they should be displayed not stuck in a cupboard for years.

No point continuing this, can't educate pork.

It would seem you have come to your senses about yourself....that is a start! So no you shouldn't continue as you will make yourself look even more stupid than you are.

Every time i come on this website its always this @E-Types trying to cause an argument over something.. little man syndrome i suspect

CleverPoliticalSloga
n wrote:
Every time i come on this website its always this @E-Types trying to cause an argument over something.. little man syndrome i suspect

Very true, clearly a very little man who knows nothing but thinks he knows it all, like all chavvies.

CleverPoliticalSloga
n wrote:
Every time i come on this website its always this @E-Types trying to cause an argument over something.. little man syndrome i suspect

Takes two to argue, wasn't you kicked of here before for your poisonous right-wing views...No human being is a thing although you come very close to it.

Truth Will Prevail wrote:

CleverPoliticalSloga

n wrote:
Every time i come on this website its always this @E-Types trying to cause an argument over something.. little man syndrome i suspect

Very true, clearly a very little man who knows nothing but thinks he knows it all, like all chavvies.

I dont know why the Echo allow you to remain on the threads after your continuous racial abuse! But it would seem they condone and endorse such abuse. But time will tell.

Maybe, after +80% of useless and rather mindless drivel, can we return to the subject at hand?

This is about the possibility of returning some of the artefacts found to the town, not about who came from where and when, leave that discussion to the NF, they are good at that.

We have very close friends at the museum and the find was certainly not 'whisked away' by any means but this was clearly with the full support of all museum staff. Our little institution simply lacks the funds and the technology required to restore them, so the only way forward was to involve professionals with both money and know-how.

As for the demand for a place to exhibit the find, personally, I would like to see him back where he came from. Priory Park would be my choice any day. With the Priory recently being refurbished it would provide a fitting setting for such an exhibition and security can be provided there.

The museum in Germany has already begun advertising this exhibition and lo and behold, you had better have some spare cash on you, the 120 min guided tour, obviously containing more then just our artefacts, will set you back by the princely sum of 90 Euros and this does include local residents. Just so you get some idea about how lucky you really are living in Britain where the majority of museums are free to explore.

I agree completely that the Prince should be displayed in Priory Park or failing that the town museum. Why oh on earth do our esteemed representatives think Pier Hill would be the best place to put him? Ludicrous idea. Do they know what sort of people frequent the seafront? Obviously not. They clearly think that putting the Prince on the seafront will "lift" the area, ha ha! You put the crown jewels down there and it would still be a pile of (insert your own expletives). If they really wanted to "lift" the seafront they should have encouraged the people who wanted to build a marina there, that really would have improved the area.
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Go away E-Types, can't be bothered to argue with troublemakers like you.

One hates to be picky, especially in light of the fact that I agree with you, but Saxon King, surely, especially for 90 euros a go, a prince would only be 30 !

He's not a King, he's a very naughty boy...

I know, it is disgraceful the way national treasures are exploited for money. Even the small museum in the town where we lived charged a small fortune for the approx. 20 minutes that it would take to wander around.

So, count yourselves lucky, free museums, free libraries, free weekly entertainment, free concerts, free festivals... the list is endless.

Both my wife and I know exactly why we chose Britain to retire in and Southend or more specifically Westcliff at that.

Southend is a very nice town, apart from all the rubbish in the streets, you wouldn't have a German High Street looking like a landfill but all in all, we love the place and every town has its problems to deal with, which is why we joined the neighbourhood organisation in our ward. Moaning does not improve anybodies life, action does. Some might like to try that, comes highly recommended.

What a lovely point of view UK Fan, if only everyone recognised the fact that nothing is perfect and that we have to work at making it the very best that we can. I am delighted to hear that you have joined your local neighbourhood organisation and, as a member of the Clifftown Conservation Society, I enjoy being part of the local community. The issue we are facing at the moment is where the Saxon King should be housed; the neighbourhood I live in are pro a museum here in Southend but, anti the cliffs proposal; which is, to be fair, a business centre with approximately 15% of the space allocated to the museum; in fact, the Council have allocated more space to parking, proposing two levels, one below sea level, than to the museum but insist on calling it a museum development, when actually it's nothing more than a sea front car park with a small museum attached to it. There is a petition that you can sign circulating at the moment, or you can go on-line and sign; http://epetitions.di
rect.gov.uk/petition
s/34968

UK Fan wrote:
I know, it is disgraceful the way national treasures are exploited for money. Even the small museum in the town where we lived charged a small fortune for the approx. 20 minutes that it would take to wander around. So, count yourselves lucky, free museums, free libraries, free weekly entertainment, free concerts, free festivals... the list is endless. Both my wife and I know exactly why we chose Britain to retire in and Southend or more specifically Westcliff at that. Southend is a very nice town, apart from all the rubbish in the streets, you wouldn't have a German High Street looking like a landfill but all in all, we love the place and every town has its problems to deal with, which is why we joined the neighbourhood organisation in our ward. Moaning does not improve anybodies life, action does. Some might like to try that, comes highly recommended.

Very true UK fan, often told people to stop whinging on here and send their complaints to their Councillor/MP/releva
nt authorities where it might actually do some good. Can't say I would choose to live in Westcliff though, far nicer areas on the peninsula with far less problems.
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Mslightfoot, I like the petition but it only refers to keeping the cliffs green, nothing about displaying the Prince in Priory Park. Don't suppose you know if there is a specific petition about the Prince's museum location?

" This is about the possibility of returning some of the artefacts found to the town, not about who came from where and when, leave that discussion to the NF, they are good at that."

Well said UK Fan.

Take heed 'Truth Will Prevail" You are being likened to the NF and not undeservedly so.

Now keep on task.

E-Types. wrote:
" This is about the possibility of returning some of the artefacts found to the town, not about who came from where and when, leave that discussion to the NF, they are good at that." Well said UK Fan. Take heed 'Truth Will Prevail" You are being likened to the NF and not undeservedly so. Now keep on task.

Imbecile, you are the only one going on about racism and the NF (neither of which applies to me but may apply to you) as you do on every story you comment on. As somone else said to you on a different thread, all you ever do is insult people and try and cause trouble. Get a life sweetie x

Truth Will Prevail wrote:

E-Types. wrote:
" This is about the possibility of returning some of the artefacts found to the town, not about who came from where and when, leave that discussion to the NF, they are good at that." Well said UK Fan. Take heed 'Truth Will Prevail" You are being likened to the NF and not undeservedly so. Now keep on task.

Imbecile, you are the only one going on about racism and the NF (neither of which applies to me but may apply to you) as you do on every story you comment on. As somone else said to you on a different thread, all you ever do is insult people and try and cause trouble. Get a life sweetie x

Its clear you thought you were going to develop this thread into a Dale farm thread with lots of your usual racial abuse posted between you and your usual cohort King Elf, until someone stopped you in your tracks by mentioning the NF. Readers only have to look at your first post in reply to my post to see that

Your post at 12.48

"Still trying to justify your ILLEGAL habitation of Dale Farm E-Types? Like many simple minded people you try to justify your actions with convoluted arguments that do not reflect reality. You obviously won't get this but there is a huge difference between someone like myself who can trace my ancestors back centuries and the kids on Dale Farm who were born there during your iLLEGAL occupation. The clue is in the word ILLEGAL."

Right wing rhetoric if there ever was!

Now pack it in. Not everyone adheres to your ideology or hate. You were told on other threads, where you have used hateful racial abuse, most people reject racism no matter who the people are.

These sort of threads dont have the racial abusers on them as they are for more refined minds.

If you cant stay on topic then get lost to the NF forum or whoever you support.

Hi Truth Will Prevail; SKIPP are the people to contact regarding the Saxon King and keeping him in Priory Park, which, by the way, we all agree is the right thing to do; with regard to the cliffs, although the Council and the Echo are trying to mash it all together, it is actually a separate issue, as indeed is the return of the bandstand, the Council, you may recall re-located it, temporarily, to Priory Park, that was ten years ago, whilst they saved up the money to pay for the cliff slippage work to be done. We have now been told at a residents meeting, by Peter Vadden, that Priory Park like the bandstand so much they are making a petition to the Council for it to stay and the Council are looking at that, favourably ! Of course that was the first we'd heard of it; conveniently for the Council, the remaining Victorian shelters English Heritage say are, without the bandstand, out of context and can therefore be demolished, clearing the way for the Council to put in a seven storey business centre. We feel that the Council has been very underhand in their approach generally to this matter and, in a recession, when whole countries are being placed on austerity measures, where is Southend finding the money? What coffers are they robbing, social services, libraries, schools, somebody's suffering, that much is for sure !

E-Types. wrote:

Truth Will Prevail wrote:

E-Types. wrote: " This is about the possibility of returning some of the artefacts found to the town, not about who came from where and when, leave that discussion to the NF, they are good at that." Well said UK Fan. Take heed 'Truth Will Prevail" You are being likened to the NF and not undeservedly so. Now keep on task.

Imbecile, you are the only one going on about racism and the NF (neither of which applies to me but may apply to you) as you do on every story you comment on. As somone else said to you on a different thread, all you ever do is insult people and try and cause trouble. Get a life sweetie x

Its clear you thought you were going to develop this thread into a Dale farm thread with lots of your usual racial abuse posted between you and your usual cohort King Elf, until someone stopped you in your tracks by mentioning the NF. Readers only have to look at your first post in reply to my post to see that Your post at 12.48 "Still trying to justify your ILLEGAL habitation of Dale Farm E-Types? Like many simple minded people you try to justify your actions with convoluted arguments that do not reflect reality. You obviously won't get this but there is a huge difference between someone like myself who can trace my ancestors back centuries and the kids on Dale Farm who were born there during your iLLEGAL occupation. The clue is in the word ILLEGAL." Right wing rhetoric if there ever was! Now pack it in. Not everyone adheres to your ideology or hate. You were told on other threads, where you have used hateful racial abuse, most people reject racism no matter who the people are. These sort of threads dont have the racial abusers on them as they are for more refined minds. If you cant stay on topic then get lost to the NF forum or whoever you support.

E-Types you are full of it. No-one has complained about me being "racist" except you who complains whenever I say you should leave Dale Farm. No racist comments whatsoever. Aha! I get it! It's because I had the temerity to point out that most of us have ancestry stretching back thousands of years in these Islands whereas you don't. I also rubbished your (false) claims that you have been here for 1600 years. If that is so why do you all have Irish accents? You are laughable matey, and a bit sad. Why not give it up now and go back to Roshkeil or whatever it is called, where you came from ten years ago. That would please a LOT of people round here.

Mslightfoot wrote:
Hi Truth Will Prevail; SKIPP are the people to contact regarding the Saxon King and keeping him in Priory Park, which, by the way, we all agree is the right thing to do; with regard to the cliffs, although the Council and the Echo are trying to mash it all together, it is actually a separate issue, as indeed is the return of the bandstand, the Council, you may recall re-located it, temporarily, to Priory Park, that was ten years ago, whilst they saved up the money to pay for the cliff slippage work to be done. We have now been told at a residents meeting, by Peter Vadden, that Priory Park like the bandstand so much they are making a petition to the Council for it to stay and the Council are looking at that, favourably ! Of course that was the first we'd heard of it; conveniently for the Council, the remaining Victorian shelters English Heritage say are, without the bandstand, out of context and can therefore be demolished, clearing the way for the Council to put in a seven storey business centre. We feel that the Council has been very underhand in their approach generally to this matter and, in a recession, when whole countries are being placed on austerity measures, where is Southend finding the money? What coffers are they robbing, social services, libraries, schools, somebody's suffering, that much is for sure !

Thanks for the info Mslightfoot, will look into that.

E-Types thanks for the laugh. Your comment that this story is for "more refined minds" made us laugh out loud. Do you mean more refined minds like yours? Ha ha! I clearly know a lot more about anthropology and gentics than you do, just check the postings above. And where have I made racist remarks? If you actually bothered to read the comments you would see that it wasn't even me who raised the DF issue on here, I just said we haven't been conquered since the Norman invasion (that was in 1066 in case you don't know) whereupon my compatriot King El commented that the residents of Crays Hill might disagree with that assertion. Now look at your abusive, insulting ranting and raving on this page, no comparison. Oh and I am not and never have been a NF supporter but I am sick of pea brained individuals like you who come here from Ireland and occupy land ILLEGALLY for ten years and then claim you have a right to stay because some of your kids were born here during your ILLEGAL occupation. Get real E-Types, if you can (whichj I doubt).
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They don't like it up 'em!

Oops typo, gentics (line 4) should of course have read genetics.

Truth Will Prevail wrote:
Oops typo, gentics (line 4) should of course have read genetics.

Glad to hear it. You had me worried for a moment !

muffindamule wrote:

Truth Will Prevail wrote: Oops typo, gentics (line 4) should of course have read genetics.

Glad to hear it. You had me worried for a moment !

Don't you start! ;o)

Truth Will Prevail wrote:

E-Types. wrote:

Truth Will Prevail wrote:

E-Types. wrote: " This is about the possibility of returning some of the artefacts found to the town, not about who came from where and when, leave that discussion to the NF, they are good at that." Well said UK Fan. Take heed 'Truth Will Prevail" You are being likened to the NF and not undeservedly so. Now keep on task.

Imbecile, you are the only one going on about racism and the NF (neither of which applies to me but may apply to you) as you do on every story you comment on. As somone else said to you on a different thread, all you ever do is insult people and try and cause trouble. Get a life sweetie x

Its clear you thought you were going to develop this thread into a Dale farm thread with lots of your usual racial abuse posted between you and your usual cohort King Elf, until someone stopped you in your tracks by mentioning the NF. Readers only have to look at your first post in reply to my post to see that Your post at 12.48 "Still trying to justify your ILLEGAL habitation of Dale Farm E-Types? Like many simple minded people you try to justify your actions with convoluted arguments that do not reflect reality. You obviously won't get this but there is a huge difference between someone like myself who can trace my ancestors back centuries and the kids on Dale Farm who were born there during your iLLEGAL occupation. The clue is in the word ILLEGAL." Right wing rhetoric if there ever was! Now pack it in. Not everyone adheres to your ideology or hate. You were told on other threads, where you have used hateful racial abuse, most people reject racism no matter who the people are. These sort of threads dont have the racial abusers on them as they are for more refined minds. If you cant stay on topic then get lost to the NF forum or whoever you support.

E-Types you are full of it. No-one has complained about me being "racist" except you who complains whenever I say you should leave Dale Farm. No racist comments whatsoever. Aha! I get it! It's because I had the temerity to point out that most of us have ancestry stretching back thousands of years in these Islands whereas you don't. I also rubbished your (false) claims that you have been here for 1600 years. If that is so why do you all have Irish accents? You are laughable matey, and a bit sad. Why not give it up now and go back to Roshkeil or whatever it is called, where you came from ten years ago. That would please a LOT of people round here.

It seems you lie even to yourself! Your racism on other threads is well known and you were about to start it here until UK Fan stated

"This is about the possibility of returning some of the artefacts found to the town, not about who came from where and when, leave that discussion to the NF, they are good at that"

Since it was you harping on, and still doing so, about where peoples ancestors came from, as if that matters a hoot, it is clear this was aimed at you. You were asked to stick to task but still try to racially slur a people you have no knowledge of! You are a disgrace to normal people.

You are a NF supporter and people reading your other posts on other threads can read that for themselves. Now you try deny it.

You are a degenerate human! You have not proven nothing about nothing because you cant, but you offer racial slur and hope others are as sick as you to join in or agree with you. Again i wonder why the Echo allows you to remain.

To reply to your hate with more contained language i ask, Have you ever heard of the Amish? Do you know how long they have been in America? Do you know what accent they have?

Have you heard of Acadians/Cajuns? Do you know how long they have been in both Canada and America? Do Know what accent they have?

Insular communities frequently retain their accents because they frequently speak their mother tongue! To hard to understand?

Do Indian people speak their own language with a British accent? Do they speak English with an English accent or with their accent...You are a moron.

Do your research and you will see the people in question were noted here 1,600 years ago, as if it matters a great deal.

The fact that their ancestors land is barely 7 miles from the UK would suggest they have visited the UK and the UK residents visited there from the time of the first canoes!

You dont own this county you sop, your people came here when they did, before others and after others. To decide that somehow makes you superior shows why you support the NF. Brain dead. Believe me you dont speak for a LOT of people. This country rejects racism and racists in the majority you and your ilk are a little minority that is dying out year by year.

Now this thread is about artefacts nor ancestors..stop your hateful, disgusting racial slurs! They are not acceptable in polite company!

Truth Will Prevail wrote:
E-Types thanks for the laugh. Your comment that this story is for "more refined minds" made us laugh out loud. Do you mean more refined minds like yours? Ha ha! I clearly know a lot more about anthropology and gentics than you do, just check the postings above. And where have I made racist remarks? If you actually bothered to read the comments you would see that it wasn't even me who raised the DF issue on here, I just said we haven't been conquered since the Norman invasion (that was in 1066 in case you don't know) whereupon my compatriot King El commented that the residents of Crays Hill might disagree with that assertion. Now look at your abusive, insulting ranting and raving on this page, no comparison. Oh and I am not and never have been a NF supporter but I am sick of pea brained individuals like you who come here from Ireland and occupy land ILLEGALLY for ten years and then claim you have a right to stay because some of your kids were born here during your ILLEGAL occupation. Get real E-Types, if you can (whichj I doubt).
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They don't like it up 'em!

And here you show your true colours whilst supporting my claim you are noting but a hate mongering NF supporter. As was well noted by another poster

Now In your moronic rage you typo all over the place...Your raging posts on other threads are truly disgusting, so much so they have been made available to the police!

BTW I did not "come here from Ireland" but if i did would that mean i'd have to suffer racial abuse from you? Its illegal and unlawful you know!

Are you seriously stating that people born in this country dont have a right to stay here? Surely this can only be part of the NF manifesto!

The other readers can make their own minds up but you should stay on topic and stop trolling the tread to voice your dreadful thoughts on racial issues!

You are a crazy person, you talk absolute drivel, keep it up and I will get you banned.

"The other readers can make their own minds up but you should stay on topic"
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You must be illiterate, I'm not the one straying off topic, YOU ARE with your ranting and raving in defence of the Dale Farm scumbags.

Truth Will Prevail wrote:
"The other readers can make their own minds up but you should stay on topic"
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You must be illiterate, I'm not the one straying off topic, YOU ARE with your ranting and raving in defence of the Dale Farm scumbags.

You are nothing but a racist cur and even on threads like this you cant disguise it. Decent minded people on here can only be repled by you and your warped hate. Go away and as advised frequent the NF forum. Its clearly where you will be at home.

BTW im typing and reading how could i possible be illiterate! You mindset is disgusting to behold!

Truth Will Prevail wrote:
You are a crazy person, you talk absolute drivel, keep it up and I will get you banned.

You will get no one banned but likely to be banned yourself if the admin scrutinise your posts.

Dale Farm and all that went with it is dead and buried. It is no more. The thread of the Prittlewell Prince hijacked like so many others by the prattlewell prince.
DF is no longer an issue. Now get over it and let others have a say on what interests them !

Camp Incontinent wrote:
Dale Farm and all that went with it is dead and buried. It is no more. The thread of the Prittlewell Prince hijacked like so many others by the prattlewell prince. DF is no longer an issue. Now get over it and let others have a say on what interests them !

Thankfully ET seems to have disappeared, probably gone back to his home planet or popped down the DSS to collect his Giro. As for the Prince of Prittlewell, isn't it time SKIPP organised an online petition to keep him in Priory Park, or thereabouts, rather than displaying on the seafront?

Truth Will Prevail wrote:

Camp Incontinent wrote:
Dale Farm and all that went with it is dead and buried. It is no more. The thread of the Prittlewell Prince hijacked like so many others by the prattlewell prince. DF is no longer an issue. Now get over it and let others have a say on what interests them !

Thankfully ET seems to have disappeared, probably gone back to his home planet or popped down the DSS to collect his Giro. As for the Prince of Prittlewell, isn't it time SKIPP organised an online petition to keep him in Priory Park, or thereabouts, rather than displaying on the seafront?

Hi TWP,
Not a bad idea . I should think that the case for Priory Park is so strong that no other venue need even be considered. Nevertheless, it is a fact that decisions are sometimes made which defy all reason. An online petition could do no harm if it received the amount of support which it deserves.
A listing of the proposed sites and a vote on the one preferred might actually prove more effective as the proposed Pier Hill site will, I trust, be seen by the vast majority of voters as wholly unsuitable and inept.

Camp Incontinent wrote:

Truth Will Prevail wrote:

Camp Incontinent wrote: Dale Farm and all that went with it is dead and buried. It is no more. The thread of the Prittlewell Prince hijacked like so many others by the prattlewell prince. DF is no longer an issue. Now get over it and let others have a say on what interests them !

Thankfully ET seems to have disappeared, probably gone back to his home planet or popped down the DSS to collect his Giro. As for the Prince of Prittlewell, isn't it time SKIPP organised an online petition to keep him in Priory Park, or thereabouts, rather than displaying on the seafront?

Hi TWP, Not a bad idea . I should think that the case for Priory Park is so strong that no other venue need even be considered. Nevertheless, it is a fact that decisions are sometimes made which defy all reason. An online petition could do no harm if it received the amount of support which it deserves. A listing of the proposed sites and a vote on the one preferred might actually prove more effective as the proposed Pier Hill site will, I trust, be seen by the vast majority of voters as wholly unsuitable and inept.

I agree completely and I have written to Southend Council to tell them so but how many others will go to the trouble of doing that? I suspect very few so some sort of petition would probably get a l o t more names. Fingers crossed.

Truth Will Prevail wrote:

Camp Incontinent wrote:
Dale Farm and all that went with it is dead and buried. It is no more. The thread of the Prittlewell Prince hijacked like so many others by the prattlewell prince. DF is no longer an issue. Now get over it and let others have a say on what interests them !

Thankfully ET seems to have disappeared, probably gone back to his home planet or popped down the DSS to collect his Giro. As for the Prince of Prittlewell, isn't it time SKIPP organised an online petition to keep him in Priory Park, or thereabouts, rather than displaying on the seafront?

Im never far away when it comes to challenging racist abuse...remember you not alone.

Camp Incontinent wrote:
Dale Farm and all that went with it is dead and buried. It is no more. The thread of the Prittlewell Prince hijacked like so many others by the prattlewell prince.
DF is no longer an issue. Now get over it and let others have a say on what interests them !

Then tell those who racially abuse or slur the DF people on threads such as this to disist? Why do you moan about the defender rather than the attacker...could your user name be a clue?