Greens gain council seat in Rochford district (From Southend Standard)

The green party is a party that can say what it likes to gain the bleeding hearts club vote.

If they ever got into a position of governance there would be a right wing revolution because we could NEVER afford to go green and pay for the millions that would be unemployed as a result. It is an impossible 'ideal world' non reality pipe dream.

Read their policies and fully understand that they are possible.

Wind, wave, sun power will never support our needs, without becoming bankrupt in the attempt.

Commy's by the back door.

el caballero de la noche wrote:
The green party is a party that can say what it likes to gain the bleeding hearts club vote.

If they ever got into a position of governance there would be a right wing revolution because we could NEVER afford to go green and pay for the millions that would be unemployed as a result. It is an impossible 'ideal world' non reality pipe dream.

Read their policies and fully understand that they are possible.

Wind, wave, sun power will never support our needs, without becoming bankrupt in the attempt.

Commy's by the back door.

How could there possibly be a

right wing revolution

?

You are vehemently opposed to demonstrations and protests. You have said so many times on this website.

el caballero de la noche wrote:
The green party is a party that can say what it likes to gain the bleeding hearts club vote.

If they ever got into a position of governance there would be a right wing revolution because we could NEVER afford to go green and pay for the millions that would be unemployed as a result. It is an impossible 'ideal world' non reality pipe dream.

Read their policies and fully understand that they are possible.

Wind, wave, sun power will never support our needs, without becoming bankrupt in the attempt.

Commy's by the back door.

I think, even if you don't want the Green Party to ultimately assume power (and, let's face it, they have no chance of assuming power in the short to medium term), it's still worth voting for them, because they will put pressure on the mainstream parties not to ride roughshod over the environment.

Anyone wondering what the Greens will do if they assume power should cast their eyes on Brighton for a sobering glimpse of just what that would mean...

Mark D wrote:

el caballero de la noche wrote:
The green party is a party that can say what it likes to gain the bleeding hearts club vote.

If they ever got into a position of governance there would be a right wing revolution because we could NEVER afford to go green and pay for the millions that would be unemployed as a result. It is an impossible 'ideal world' non reality pipe dream.

Read their policies and fully understand that they are possible.

Wind, wave, sun power will never support our needs, without becoming bankrupt in the attempt.

Commy's by the back door.

I think, even if you don't want the Green Party to ultimately assume power (and, let's face it, they have no chance of assuming power in the short to medium term), it's still worth voting for them, because they will put pressure on the mainstream parties not to ride roughshod over the environment.

Indeed, they are needed on more councils to keep the profit making, Private sector obsessed MP's from allowing the oil and gas companies from making us more dependent on fossil fuel.
As for El Castro's comment: I see Germany think that there is huge potential in alterative energy, why else would they halt all nuclear energy programmes and make a decision to switch to renewables? But let me guess, you know better than the Germans, right? Funny, they fair far better than us and don't have the congestion, the unemployment, or social problems that exist here. If there wasn't a future for a huge switch over to renewable energy, why would one of the greatest engineering country's on the planet make such a decision?
As for this unemployment mirage of going green, how did you work that out? There is no major industrial sector here anymore, almost all our pollution levels is caused by peoples refusal to stop driving everywhere and . I saw on the news the other day that only 5% of the population use the train for work, 5%! People won't even car share! There needn't be any unemployment problems in going green, it just needs people to stop being so selfish and snooty about public transport.
How about getting a government that builds more regional train lines, i can't even remember the last time a new line (not a branch line) was built in England! That would create jobs, lower pollution, and the only loser would be the oil companies, boo hoo! Car sales wouldn't drop as people would still use them, but probably less than half as much. It would also mean that our roads wouldn't be in need of repair so often!
Is this not just common sense? oh, and if the train line was state owned, all the profit comes directly to the public, as it should.
Yes, I know El Castro, you are anti state ownership of anything, because privatisation of every last industry and service has made travelling so cheap and comfortable, hasn't it, and gas and electric is such a bargain, i mean, we wouldn't want BG or Scottish power to not make an even greater profit, would we?
Perhaps when our precious chancellor sells the publics shares in the banks (starting with one being sold at a loss, good start!) this is where the money should go.

Balexan wrote: I see Germany think that there is huge potential in alterative energy, why else would they halt all nuclear energy programmes and make a decision to switch to renewables?

There are several factors here. One was the German greens jumping on the knee-jerk reaction to the Japanese earthquake and tsunami, neither of which were ever likely to threaten German nuclear power plants.

Two, the Germans are not going to be going over to fully renewable energy sources, they will be importing a lot of their energy from France (just a we in the UK do), who just happen to have the most nuclear power stations in Europe.

Of coarse their not going to switch off all non-renewable power sources, that would be stupid. They are looking to use 35% of their supplies through renewable, a huge chuck! There are 10,000's of homes in Germany where the entire roof is covered in Solar panels. But their green credentials aren't just down to renewable energy, it is by having an excellent public transport system where people don't need to use their cars to get everywhere. Yes they use electricity to operate, but it is more efficient and greener to have a train full of people, instead of 150-200 cars instead. Look at how London handled the congestion charge, a discount is being offered if you buy in advance, is that not the most rediculous idea. It was "supposedly" designed to lower congestion, but has, along with most English government ideas, been turned into a money maker. Exactly like the railways.
Being green is not just about power production, it is about the way we move around our country. Trams would be brilliant! It costs jack sh!t to get around on them on the continent. We never recovered from Dr beeching's axe

JuliaM wrote:
Anyone wondering what the Greens will do if they assume power should cast their eyes on Brighton for a sobering glimpse of just what that would mean...

What did the Greens do in Brighton that was so awful?

Many Congrats to Diane Hoy on winning the LOCAL election and for identifying what the villagers of Hullbridge want so strongly. No 500 Houses !!! even if they are planned many years ahead. Perhaps the Cons., will take Hullbridge's protest even more serious or do they want to lose the remaining position in Hullbridge ?
Time will tell.
This election was the best contested in Hullbridge for many years. Long may it continue and well done to the villagers who voted.