Traffic fears over Ekco development

Southend Standard: Peace plan - Thornford Action Group Peace plan - Thornford Action Group

RESIDENTS have pledged to fight plans for all traffic from a 200-home estate planned for the former Ekco site to exit it via their quiet road.

People living near the site, between Thornford Gardens and Priory Crescent, which is earmarked for a £16.5million hospice, two four-storey office blocks and 200 family homes, have formed the Thornford Action Group to protect their quiet “haven”.

Bellway Homes, the developer behind themulti-million pound scheme, has assured residents the one to four-bedroom homes will only lead to a small increase in traffic at the estate entrance, in Thornford Gardens.

It says it will reduce traffic in Priory Crescent, where vehicles will turn into the hospice, offices and the new pub Marston’s Inns and Taverns is building, compared to when Prittlebrook Industrial Estate was active.

The neighbours fear the massive redevelopment will cause congestion in Thornford Gardens and at the exit on to Manners Way.

The action group’s founder, Margaret Smith, who moved to Thornford Gardens a year ago to escape traffic in Eastern Avenue, said: “If you have 200-plus houses you are going to have cars going backwards and forwards all the time.

“This quiet haven we have found is going to be noisier and more polluted.

“We had children riding their bikes in the street, doing stunts, at the weekend.

They aren’t going to do that any more. It’s going to change our lives completely.”

Southend Council, whose planners have been advising Bellway and charity Havens Hospices, which plans to build the 16-bed hospice as a replacement for its facility in Second Avenue, Chalkwell, estimate there will be 1.6 cars per house, but Mrs Smith fears there will be more.

She believes the headlights from cars leaving the estate will shine directly into the bedroom of bungalows in Thornford Gardens, drivers will race around the road to the other exit on to Manners Way, to avoid queuing, and people visiting the estate will park on the road.

The authority has carried out a traffic survey of the area, but is yet to release the results. St Laurence councillor Mark Flewitt said: “Thornford Gardens has a great deal to lose if this plan under-estimates the impact upon residents of this and surrounding roads.

“I have worked with Mrs Smith to form the action group to represent views and opposition to the known highway proposal.

“The sleep-walk towards a local highway disaster continues with the popular refrain of, ‘more housing’ overshadowing the huge challenge of an additional high incidence of car and trafficmovement to and from Thornford Gardens and on to Manners Way.”

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7:55am Wed 4 Jun 14

Happy Chickie says...

"She believes the headlights from cars leaving the estate will shine directly into the bedroom of bungalows"

Misery guts, get some blinds/shutters/curt
ains.
"She believes the headlights from cars leaving the estate will shine directly into the bedroom of bungalows" Misery guts, get some blinds/shutters/curt ains. Happy Chickie
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8:09am Wed 4 Jun 14

supermadmax says...

Ahh yes the scum NIMBY's who are desperately trying to prevent the building of a much needed hospice. Due to the public backlash they have now changed tack and are claiming its due to 'traffic' & they have no problem with the hospice.
Ahh yes the scum NIMBY's who are desperately trying to prevent the building of a much needed hospice. Due to the public backlash they have now changed tack and are claiming its due to 'traffic' & they have no problem with the hospice. supermadmax
  • Score: -7

9:04am Wed 4 Jun 14

w-jback says...

see three of the same old faces - Sadly Keep Interfering Protest People
see three of the same old faces - Sadly Keep Interfering Protest People w-jback
  • Score: 4

9:04am Wed 4 Jun 14

Broadwaywatch says...

supermadmax wrote:
Ahh yes the scum NIMBY's who are desperately trying to prevent the building of a much needed hospice. Due to the public backlash they have now changed tack and are claiming its due to 'traffic' & they have no problem with the hospice.
I believe this to be a completely unfair comment to make. I cannot see anywhere in the article that Mrs Smith is complaining about the building of the Hospice. She in fact refers to the building of houses and the traffic impact that will have on the road where she lives.
I believe that an apology is in order. Although considering your use of such a word as scum to describe a person or persons without fully reading the article I shouldn't imagine that you are the sort to retract an unfounded abusive statement and give an apology. And just to make it clear before you might consider in politely replying to my comment..... I do not know Mrs Smith nor do I live in that particular part of town.
[quote][p][bold]supermadmax[/bold] wrote: Ahh yes the scum NIMBY's who are desperately trying to prevent the building of a much needed hospice. Due to the public backlash they have now changed tack and are claiming its due to 'traffic' & they have no problem with the hospice.[/p][/quote]I believe this to be a completely unfair comment to make. I cannot see anywhere in the article that Mrs Smith is complaining about the building of the Hospice. She in fact refers to the building of houses and the traffic impact that will have on the road where she lives. I believe that an apology is in order. Although considering your use of such a word as scum to describe a person or persons without fully reading the article I shouldn't imagine that you are the sort to retract an unfounded abusive statement and give an apology. And just to make it clear before you might consider in politely replying to my comment..... I do not know Mrs Smith nor do I live in that particular part of town. Broadwaywatch
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10:02am Wed 4 Jun 14

supermadmax says...

Broadwaywatch wrote:
supermadmax wrote:
Ahh yes the scum NIMBY's who are desperately trying to prevent the building of a much needed hospice. Due to the public backlash they have now changed tack and are claiming its due to 'traffic' & they have no problem with the hospice.
I believe this to be a completely unfair comment to make. I cannot see anywhere in the article that Mrs Smith is complaining about the building of the Hospice. She in fact refers to the building of houses and the traffic impact that will have on the road where she lives.
I believe that an apology is in order. Although considering your use of such a word as scum to describe a person or persons without fully reading the article I shouldn't imagine that you are the sort to retract an unfounded abusive statement and give an apology. And just to make it clear before you might consider in politely replying to my comment..... I do not know Mrs Smith nor do I live in that particular part of town.
Of course you don't Broadwaywatch.....

Its very clear to anyone following this story, that this is just the latest attempt by these self centred scum-bags to prevent the building of the hospice, this time blaming 'traffic'.

Once a patient is told there is nothing more a hospital can do for them, they are literately kicked out of the hospital due to a shortage of beds, they can't be put into a hospice because there is a massive shortage due to NIMBY scum like the people in the above photo. This can cause a dreadful end to the last weeks / months of their lives and put a huge strain on their families (if they are lucky enough to live with any) Who knows perhaps one day you and the scum protesting over ' traffic' will learn first hand why its essential we have more hospices ? & in your dying days you can reflect over your shameful behaviour.
[quote][p][bold]Broadwaywatch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]supermadmax[/bold] wrote: Ahh yes the scum NIMBY's who are desperately trying to prevent the building of a much needed hospice. Due to the public backlash they have now changed tack and are claiming its due to 'traffic' & they have no problem with the hospice.[/p][/quote]I believe this to be a completely unfair comment to make. I cannot see anywhere in the article that Mrs Smith is complaining about the building of the Hospice. She in fact refers to the building of houses and the traffic impact that will have on the road where she lives. I believe that an apology is in order. Although considering your use of such a word as scum to describe a person or persons without fully reading the article I shouldn't imagine that you are the sort to retract an unfounded abusive statement and give an apology. And just to make it clear before you might consider in politely replying to my comment..... I do not know Mrs Smith nor do I live in that particular part of town.[/p][/quote]Of course you don't Broadwaywatch..... Its very clear to anyone following this story, that this is just the latest attempt by these self centred scum-bags to prevent the building of the hospice, this time blaming 'traffic'. Once a patient is told there is nothing more a hospital can do for them, they are literately kicked out of the hospital due to a shortage of beds, they can't be put into a hospice because there is a massive shortage due to NIMBY scum like the people in the above photo. This can cause a dreadful end to the last weeks / months of their lives and put a huge strain on their families (if they are lucky enough to live with any) Who knows perhaps one day you and the scum protesting over ' traffic' will learn first hand why its essential we have more hospices ? & in your dying days you can reflect over your shameful behaviour. supermadmax
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10:58am Wed 4 Jun 14

Happy Chickie says...

supermadmax wrote:
Ahh yes the scum NIMBY's who are desperately trying to prevent the building of a much needed hospice. Due to the public backlash they have now changed tack and are claiming its due to 'traffic' & they have no problem with the hospice.
Interesting how she moved there last year knowing full well planning permissions might be given for the hospice/homes, and subsequently was.

Very selfish of her knowing full well yet now opposing.

Don't let this busybody stop the hospice and homes going through.
[quote][p][bold]supermadmax[/bold] wrote: Ahh yes the scum NIMBY's who are desperately trying to prevent the building of a much needed hospice. Due to the public backlash they have now changed tack and are claiming its due to 'traffic' & they have no problem with the hospice.[/p][/quote]Interesting how she moved there last year knowing full well planning permissions might be given for the hospice/homes, and subsequently was. Very selfish of her knowing full well yet now opposing. Don't let this busybody stop the hospice and homes going through. Happy Chickie
  • Score: 3

11:04am Wed 4 Jun 14

supermadmax says...

Happy Chickie wrote:
supermadmax wrote:
Ahh yes the scum NIMBY's who are desperately trying to prevent the building of a much needed hospice. Due to the public backlash they have now changed tack and are claiming its due to 'traffic' & they have no problem with the hospice.
Interesting how she moved there last year knowing full well planning permissions might be given for the hospice/homes, and subsequently was.

Very selfish of her knowing full well yet now opposing.

Don't let this busybody stop the hospice and homes going through.
Well said!
[quote][p][bold]Happy Chickie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]supermadmax[/bold] wrote: Ahh yes the scum NIMBY's who are desperately trying to prevent the building of a much needed hospice. Due to the public backlash they have now changed tack and are claiming its due to 'traffic' & they have no problem with the hospice.[/p][/quote]Interesting how she moved there last year knowing full well planning permissions might be given for the hospice/homes, and subsequently was. Very selfish of her knowing full well yet now opposing. Don't let this busybody stop the hospice and homes going through.[/p][/quote]Well said! supermadmax
  • Score: 1

11:15am Wed 4 Jun 14

andy:) says...

NIMBYS !. These people seem top forget that we live in the densly populated south east, there will always be expansions and more building of desperatly needed homes.

I'm against building on green built (and oppossed the original Havens location) but this derelict brownfield site is perfect for the hopsice and new homes, do any pof the residents seriously believe that it will stay as a unused derelict site for ever ? If they want peacve and tranquility there are many remote areas of the UK to move to.
NIMBYS !. These people seem top forget that we live in the densly populated south east, there will always be expansions and more building of desperatly needed homes. I'm against building on green built (and oppossed the original Havens location) but this derelict brownfield site is perfect for the hopsice and new homes, do any pof the residents seriously believe that it will stay as a unused derelict site for ever ? If they want peacve and tranquility there are many remote areas of the UK to move to. andy:)
  • Score: 1

12:18pm Wed 4 Jun 14

Keptquiettillnow says...

Good on them. They live there, its their lives that are going to be changed, why shouldn't they be allowed to have a say in what a multi
£££ building firm is going to do?
And yes, it will mean lots more traffic around that area. Is every home going to built with space to park two cars?
Good on them. They live there, its their lives that are going to be changed, why shouldn't they be allowed to have a say in what a multi £££ building firm is going to do? And yes, it will mean lots more traffic around that area. Is every home going to built with space to park two cars? Keptquiettillnow
  • Score: 0

1:30pm Wed 4 Jun 14

Happy Chickie says...

Keptquiettillnow wrote:
Good on them. They live there, its their lives that are going to be changed, why shouldn't they be allowed to have a say in what a multi
£££ building firm is going to do?
And yes, it will mean lots more traffic around that area. Is every home going to built with space to park two cars?
Tit
[quote][p][bold]Keptquiettillnow[/bold] wrote: Good on them. They live there, its their lives that are going to be changed, why shouldn't they be allowed to have a say in what a multi £££ building firm is going to do? And yes, it will mean lots more traffic around that area. Is every home going to built with space to park two cars?[/p][/quote]Tit Happy Chickie
  • Score: 1

1:52pm Wed 4 Jun 14

Cockle says...

Thornford Gardens has only been a quiet road for a short time since the factory units were demolished.
Back in the 50's and 60's Ekco employed up to 2,500 people on that site, latterly Joint Credit Card Company (Access) and the associated banks employed thousands there while the old Ekco Plastics units at the back of the site facing onto Thornford Gardens carried on production with HGV's coming and going. It wasn't a particularly quiet road then...... Certainly the children would have been ill-advised to be doing cycling stunts in the middle of the road!
Thornford Gardens has only been a quiet road for a short time since the factory units were demolished. Back in the 50's and 60's Ekco employed up to 2,500 people on that site, latterly Joint Credit Card Company (Access) and the associated banks employed thousands there while the old Ekco Plastics units at the back of the site facing onto Thornford Gardens carried on production with HGV's coming and going. It wasn't a particularly quiet road then...... Certainly the children would have been ill-advised to be doing cycling stunts in the middle of the road! Cockle
  • Score: 3

3:33pm Wed 4 Jun 14

the25man says...

I wouldn't call it a quiet road being that close to the airport and railway. Maybe a few more cars are going to use the road so what.
I wouldn't call it a quiet road being that close to the airport and railway. Maybe a few more cars are going to use the road so what. the25man
  • Score: 1

3:45pm Wed 4 Jun 14

John Right says...

Loud exhausts, revving engines, door slamming, all change..
Loud exhausts, revving engines, door slamming, all change.. John Right
  • Score: 0

9:24pm Thu 26 Jun 14

BASILBRUSH says...

Building homes on Brown field makes total sense (apart from the smell around there of the water works).
Look at any new build development and I challenge you to show me the queues of traffic into or out of them eluded to in this article?
They don't exist.
As mentioned before, there were 2500 employees on the site once.. What would you propose for this site? Or would Green belt be better to build new homes?
This country needs new homes, sites like this are the answer.
Building homes on Brown field makes total sense (apart from the smell around there of the water works). Look at any new build development and I challenge you to show me the queues of traffic into or out of them eluded to in this article? They don't exist. As mentioned before, there were 2500 employees on the site once.. What would you propose for this site? Or would Green belt be better to build new homes? This country needs new homes, sites like this are the answer. BASILBRUSH
  • Score: 0

6:47pm Fri 27 Jun 14

chillyfeet says...

Cockle wrote:
Thornford Gardens has only been a quiet road for a short time since the factory units were demolished.
Back in the 50's and 60's Ekco employed up to 2,500 people on that site, latterly Joint Credit Card Company (Access) and the associated banks employed thousands there while the old Ekco Plastics units at the back of the site facing onto Thornford Gardens carried on production with HGV's coming and going. It wasn't a particularly quiet road then...... Certainly the children would have been ill-advised to be doing cycling stunts in the middle of the road!
Traffic from the old echo site accessed the site from Priory crescent not Thornford gdns. If Cockle lived in a quiet area would he or she want their peace and quiet disturbed. NO
[quote][p][bold]Cockle[/bold] wrote: Thornford Gardens has only been a quiet road for a short time since the factory units were demolished. Back in the 50's and 60's Ekco employed up to 2,500 people on that site, latterly Joint Credit Card Company (Access) and the associated banks employed thousands there while the old Ekco Plastics units at the back of the site facing onto Thornford Gardens carried on production with HGV's coming and going. It wasn't a particularly quiet road then...... Certainly the children would have been ill-advised to be doing cycling stunts in the middle of the road![/p][/quote]Traffic from the old echo site accessed the site from Priory crescent not Thornford gdns. If Cockle lived in a quiet area would he or she want their peace and quiet disturbed. NO chillyfeet
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