UKIP and Independent gains put Southend Council in no overall control

Votes poured out of a ballot box

Votes poured out of a ballot box

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POWER at Southend Council was taken away from the Conservatives after UKIP and the Independents made gains.

The authority has gone into no overall control following the count for the local elections on Thursday night.

Eurosceptic party UKIP where victorious in five wards earning their first seats on the council.

This included seeing James Moyies ousting cabinet member Tony Cox in West Shoebury.

Gains were also made by the Independents in four seats while Labour added three councillors to their group.

The results mean although the Tories remain as the biggest party they no longer have a majority.

Negotiations will now begin between the parties discussing any possible coalitions in a bid to gain control of the council.

The make-up of the council now looks like this:

19 Conservative

13 Independent

9 Labour

5 Lib Dem

5 UKIP

1 Independent member

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6:11am Fri 23 May 14

Keptquiettillnow says...

I am sure there will be a few of the Non Conservatives on a power hungry trip prepared to do a deal.
I am sure there will be a few of the Non Conservatives on a power hungry trip prepared to do a deal. Keptquiettillnow
  • Score: 9

6:32am Fri 23 May 14

jayman says...

now that UKIP have been given sufficient rope, hopefully they will fashion a political noose and hang themselves with it. good to see labour gains. next year perhaps a further avalanche of Tories can be dislodged from the council summit.
now that UKIP have been given sufficient rope, hopefully they will fashion a political noose and hang themselves with it. good to see labour gains. next year perhaps a further avalanche of Tories can be dislodged from the council summit. jayman
  • Score: -38

6:33am Fri 23 May 14

the citizen says...

Real shame about the UKIP councillors being voted in...but that's the joy of democracy for you. perhaps it is the main parties that need to look at themselves. Still....at least Alex Kaye got her reward for treating her constituents with such disrespect as to jump ship during her term.
Real shame about the UKIP councillors being voted in...but that's the joy of democracy for you. perhaps it is the main parties that need to look at themselves. Still....at least Alex Kaye got her reward for treating her constituents with such disrespect as to jump ship during her term. the citizen
  • Score: -46

6:57am Fri 23 May 14

alarminstaller says...

The main parties need to listen to what the people are actually saying, many politicians have closed their minds to many ideas and views of the general public and only listen to their own party views and ideas.
The main parties need to listen to what the people are actually saying, many politicians have closed their minds to many ideas and views of the general public and only listen to their own party views and ideas. alarminstaller
  • Score: 77

7:29am Fri 23 May 14

Kursaal76 says...

the citizen wrote:
Real shame about the UKIP councillors being voted in...but that's the joy of democracy for you. perhaps it is the main parties that need to look at themselves. Still....at least Alex Kaye got her reward for treating her constituents with such disrespect as to jump ship during her term.
brilliant ukip got voted in. now all we need is more young people voting. hopefully ukip will get more voted next time.
[quote][p][bold]the citizen[/bold] wrote: Real shame about the UKIP councillors being voted in...but that's the joy of democracy for you. perhaps it is the main parties that need to look at themselves. Still....at least Alex Kaye got her reward for treating her constituents with such disrespect as to jump ship during her term.[/p][/quote]brilliant ukip got voted in. now all we need is more young people voting. hopefully ukip will get more voted next time. Kursaal76
  • Score: 57

7:41am Fri 23 May 14

Piersight says...

How is the 1 Independent Member different from the 13 Independents? Does this mean the 13 are not really independent?
How is the 1 Independent Member different from the 13 Independents? Does this mean the 13 are not really independent? Piersight
  • Score: 28

8:06am Fri 23 May 14

pembury53 says...

excellent news, but all to no avail if voters haven't the back bone to do the same next year.... a protest vote will achieve absolutely nothing, the political elite are not that stupid, they will say 'we hear you' but do nothing, safe in the knowledge that most voters are cowards, and in truth, frightened of change...
excellent news, but all to no avail if voters haven't the back bone to do the same next year.... a protest vote will achieve absolutely nothing, the political elite are not that stupid, they will say 'we hear you' but do nothing, safe in the knowledge that most voters are cowards, and in truth, frightened of change... pembury53
  • Score: 19

8:07am Fri 23 May 14

CaptainBlackadder says...

jayman wrote:
now that UKIP have been given sufficient rope, hopefully they will fashion a political noose and hang themselves with it. good to see labour gains. next year perhaps a further avalanche of Tories can be dislodged from the council summit.
Yeah - bring back the good old days of Labour government - did us so much good eh? Whatever happened to our golden boy Tony Bliar?
[quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: now that UKIP have been given sufficient rope, hopefully they will fashion a political noose and hang themselves with it. good to see labour gains. next year perhaps a further avalanche of Tories can be dislodged from the council summit.[/p][/quote]Yeah - bring back the good old days of Labour government - did us so much good eh? Whatever happened to our golden boy Tony Bliar? CaptainBlackadder
  • Score: 17

8:11am Fri 23 May 14

GrumpyofLeigh says...

Where's Kim?
Where's Kim? GrumpyofLeigh
  • Score: 16

8:13am Fri 23 May 14

Happy Chickie says...

GrumpyofLeigh wrote:
Where's Kim?
Blathering on in the Basildon results.
[quote][p][bold]GrumpyofLeigh[/bold] wrote: Where's Kim?[/p][/quote]Blathering on in the Basildon results. Happy Chickie
  • Score: 9

8:14am Fri 23 May 14

Happy Chickie says...

Kursaal76 wrote:
the citizen wrote:
Real shame about the UKIP councillors being voted in...but that's the joy of democracy for you. perhaps it is the main parties that need to look at themselves. Still....at least Alex Kaye got her reward for treating her constituents with such disrespect as to jump ship during her term.
brilliant ukip got voted in. now all we need is more young people voting. hopefully ukip will get more voted next time.
Only 23% in the Kursaal ward voted.
[quote][p][bold]Kursaal76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the citizen[/bold] wrote: Real shame about the UKIP councillors being voted in...but that's the joy of democracy for you. perhaps it is the main parties that need to look at themselves. Still....at least Alex Kaye got her reward for treating her constituents with such disrespect as to jump ship during her term.[/p][/quote]brilliant ukip got voted in. now all we need is more young people voting. hopefully ukip will get more voted next time.[/p][/quote]Only 23% in the Kursaal ward voted. Happy Chickie
  • Score: 10

8:19am Fri 23 May 14

Sir Peter Pantsless the 3rd says...

Great to see Alex Kaye get her reward for turning on everyone who made the mistake (including me when I lived in the constituency) of voting for her.

Even better news to see that Closed Cabinet door being pried open.

Best result for Southend since our beloved Annie Waite got unceremoniously booted out.
Great to see Alex Kaye get her reward for turning on everyone who made the mistake (including me when I lived in the constituency) of voting for her. Even better news to see that Closed Cabinet door being pried open. Best result for Southend since our beloved Annie Waite got unceremoniously booted out. Sir Peter Pantsless the 3rd
  • Score: 55

8:25am Fri 23 May 14

Happy Chickie says...

Sir Peter Pantsless the 3rd wrote:
Great to see Alex Kaye get her reward for turning on everyone who made the mistake (including me when I lived in the constituency) of voting for her.

Even better news to see that Closed Cabinet door being pried open.

Best result for Southend since our beloved Annie Waite got unceremoniously booted out.
Old Annie "I hate trees Waite" and her chainsaw. Isn't she a waitress now in Tomassi's?

LOL
[quote][p][bold]Sir Peter Pantsless the 3rd[/bold] wrote: Great to see Alex Kaye get her reward for turning on everyone who made the mistake (including me when I lived in the constituency) of voting for her. Even better news to see that Closed Cabinet door being pried open. Best result for Southend since our beloved Annie Waite got unceremoniously booted out.[/p][/quote]Old Annie "I hate trees Waite" and her chainsaw. Isn't she a waitress now in Tomassi's? LOL Happy Chickie
  • Score: 36

8:25am Fri 23 May 14

JAS1983 says...

Piersight wrote:
How is the 1 Independent Member different from the 13 Independents? Does this mean the 13 are not really independent?
Yes, i thought this, could someone kindly answer what this means? Thanks :-)
[quote][p][bold]Piersight[/bold] wrote: How is the 1 Independent Member different from the 13 Independents? Does this mean the 13 are not really independent?[/p][/quote]Yes, i thought this, could someone kindly answer what this means? Thanks :-) JAS1983
  • Score: 14

8:58am Fri 23 May 14

ROBOTS' REBELLION says...

Well done UKIP. Finally hereditary parties have had the beginning of their come uppance. We want out country back from eu ownership and we want to set our own limits on immigration, and back those limits. Simple. Labour, lib dem and cons ARE the problem!
Well done UKIP. Finally hereditary parties have had the beginning of their come uppance. We want out country back from eu ownership and we want to set our own limits on immigration, and back those limits. Simple. Labour, lib dem and cons ARE the problem! ROBOTS' REBELLION
  • Score: 30

9:05am Fri 23 May 14

andy:) says...

As UKIP are only a one issue party I cant really see the point of them as local councillors, does anyone really know what their local policies will be and how they differ from the other parties.
As UKIP are only a one issue party I cant really see the point of them as local councillors, does anyone really know what their local policies will be and how they differ from the other parties. andy:)
  • Score: 18

9:30am Fri 23 May 14

w-jback says...

JAS1983 wrote:
Piersight wrote:
How is the 1 Independent Member different from the 13 Independents? Does this mean the 13 are not really independent?
Yes, i thought this, could someone kindly answer what this means? Thanks :-)
the 13 "Independents" have a loose coming together I believe, with an "independent leader/ spokesperson", as the "independent group". Where as the "independent member" is truly on his own with no affiliation to any other persons / council members.
Something like that.
[quote][p][bold]JAS1983[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Piersight[/bold] wrote: How is the 1 Independent Member different from the 13 Independents? Does this mean the 13 are not really independent?[/p][/quote]Yes, i thought this, could someone kindly answer what this means? Thanks :-)[/p][/quote]the 13 "Independents" have a loose coming together I believe, with an "independent leader/ spokesperson", as the "independent group". Where as the "independent member" is truly on his own with no affiliation to any other persons / council members. Something like that. w-jback
  • Score: 10

9:31am Fri 23 May 14

ROBOTS' REBELLION says...

UKIP voters understand that the awful controlling tentacles of the corrupt eu extend into local as well as national governance. The eu undermines all accountable democracy everywhere. We have to escape the ever closing grip of the eu as we head quickly towards the United States of europe and the end of our country as we know it. Indeed there are eu plans to eradicate country names and replace them with geographical zones. It's not about where the eu is now it's about the power it will have over us in 10 years time and the dearth of accountability. Bit of trade is fine but we should make our laws and not them.
UKIP voters understand that the awful controlling tentacles of the corrupt eu extend into local as well as national governance. The eu undermines all accountable democracy everywhere. We have to escape the ever closing grip of the eu as we head quickly towards the United States of europe and the end of our country as we know it. Indeed there are eu plans to eradicate country names and replace them with geographical zones. It's not about where the eu is now it's about the power it will have over us in 10 years time and the dearth of accountability. Bit of trade is fine but we should make our laws and not them. ROBOTS' REBELLION
  • Score: 8

9:35am Fri 23 May 14

profondo asbo says...

jayman wrote:
now that UKIP have been given sufficient rope, hopefully they will fashion a political noose and hang themselves with it. good to see labour gains. next year perhaps a further avalanche of Tories can be dislodged from the council summit.
spin doctor in the house. try to put a positive spin on a strong lurch to the right
[quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: now that UKIP have been given sufficient rope, hopefully they will fashion a political noose and hang themselves with it. good to see labour gains. next year perhaps a further avalanche of Tories can be dislodged from the council summit.[/p][/quote]spin doctor in the house. try to put a positive spin on a strong lurch to the right profondo asbo
  • Score: 9

9:44am Fri 23 May 14

boo beckett says...

Hopefully now, whoever gets control of the council will get rid of the cash cows that are the 'spy cars' and introduce free parking on Sundays in the town to increase the revenue for shops and other local businesses.
Hopefully now, whoever gets control of the council will get rid of the cash cows that are the 'spy cars' and introduce free parking on Sundays in the town to increase the revenue for shops and other local businesses. boo beckett
  • Score: 51

9:47am Fri 23 May 14

pembury53 says...

andy:) wrote:
As UKIP are only a one issue party I cant really see the point of them as local councillors, does anyone really know what their local policies will be and how they differ from the other parties.
well, now is the chance to find out surely ? presumably people were aware of the tories local policies and that brought nothing but derision from most on here....... why are people so terrified of any change, particularly when what we have is considered by many to be a council full of self serving con artists and liars..... give it a go and find out if there is better out there, its democracy, you are judge and jury, and can vote them out again....... it's about the only real power the public has..... use it !
[quote][p][bold]andy:)[/bold] wrote: As UKIP are only a one issue party I cant really see the point of them as local councillors, does anyone really know what their local policies will be and how they differ from the other parties.[/p][/quote]well, now is the chance to find out surely ? presumably people were aware of the tories local policies and that brought nothing but derision from most on here....... why are people so terrified of any change, particularly when what we have is considered by many to be a council full of self serving con artists and liars..... give it a go and find out if there is better out there, its democracy, you are judge and jury, and can vote them out again....... it's about the only real power the public has..... use it ! pembury53
  • Score: 24

11:06am Fri 23 May 14

DannyK86 says...

Looks like the old fogeys and brainless morons were successfully mobilised yesterday to vote for UKIP in force!
Looks like the old fogeys and brainless morons were successfully mobilised yesterday to vote for UKIP in force! DannyK86
  • Score: -32

11:09am Fri 23 May 14

DannyK86 says...

ROBOTS' REBELLION wrote:
UKIP voters understand that the awful controlling tentacles of the corrupt eu extend into local as well as national governance. The eu undermines all accountable democracy everywhere. We have to escape the ever closing grip of the eu as we head quickly towards the United States of europe and the end of our country as we know it. Indeed there are eu plans to eradicate country names and replace them with geographical zones. It's not about where the eu is now it's about the power it will have over us in 10 years time and the dearth of accountability. Bit of trade is fine but we should make our laws and not them.
Yeah, all that EU funding to support local regeneration schemes is terrible....
[quote][p][bold]ROBOTS' REBELLION[/bold] wrote: UKIP voters understand that the awful controlling tentacles of the corrupt eu extend into local as well as national governance. The eu undermines all accountable democracy everywhere. We have to escape the ever closing grip of the eu as we head quickly towards the United States of europe and the end of our country as we know it. Indeed there are eu plans to eradicate country names and replace them with geographical zones. It's not about where the eu is now it's about the power it will have over us in 10 years time and the dearth of accountability. Bit of trade is fine but we should make our laws and not them.[/p][/quote]Yeah, all that EU funding to support local regeneration schemes is terrible.... DannyK86
  • Score: -9

11:12am Fri 23 May 14

Alfiee says...

Kursaal76 wrote:
the citizen wrote:
Real shame about the UKIP councillors being voted in...but that's the joy of democracy for you. perhaps it is the main parties that need to look at themselves. Still....at least Alex Kaye got her reward for treating her constituents with such disrespect as to jump ship during her term.
brilliant ukip got voted in. now all we need is more young people voting. hopefully ukip will get more voted next time.
I'm so so Happy that Kursal UKIP got in. Proud my vote counted. Call me what you like. Votes talk. People are fed up we have every right to vote for who we choose. The racist card is wrong in every way. Now roll on 2015. History in the making. :-)
[quote][p][bold]Kursaal76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the citizen[/bold] wrote: Real shame about the UKIP councillors being voted in...but that's the joy of democracy for you. perhaps it is the main parties that need to look at themselves. Still....at least Alex Kaye got her reward for treating her constituents with such disrespect as to jump ship during her term.[/p][/quote]brilliant ukip got voted in. now all we need is more young people voting. hopefully ukip will get more voted next time.[/p][/quote]I'm so so Happy that Kursal UKIP got in. Proud my vote counted. Call me what you like. Votes talk. People are fed up we have every right to vote for who we choose. The racist card is wrong in every way. Now roll on 2015. History in the making. :-) Alfiee
  • Score: 16

11:24am Fri 23 May 14

Shoebury Shrimper says...

I never thought I would be living in a ward with a UKIP councillor. A worrying time for those of us who do not agree with their prejudices and scaremongering. The Poles, Czechs etc were most welcome to assist this country in World War 2. They are now seen by many people as "a problem". A sad time now that these attitudes seem to have won the day.
I never thought I would be living in a ward with a UKIP councillor. A worrying time for those of us who do not agree with their prejudices and scaremongering. The Poles, Czechs etc were most welcome to assist this country in World War 2. They are now seen by many people as "a problem". A sad time now that these attitudes seem to have won the day. Shoebury Shrimper
  • Score: -22

11:34am Fri 23 May 14

w-jback says...

DannyK86 wrote:
ROBOTS' REBELLION wrote:
UKIP voters understand that the awful controlling tentacles of the corrupt eu extend into local as well as national governance. The eu undermines all accountable democracy everywhere. We have to escape the ever closing grip of the eu as we head quickly towards the United States of europe and the end of our country as we know it. Indeed there are eu plans to eradicate country names and replace them with geographical zones. It's not about where the eu is now it's about the power it will have over us in 10 years time and the dearth of accountability. Bit of trade is fine but we should make our laws and not them.
Yeah, all that EU funding to support local regeneration schemes is terrible....
Where do you think the money for the " EU funding" comes from?
[quote][p][bold]DannyK86[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ROBOTS' REBELLION[/bold] wrote: UKIP voters understand that the awful controlling tentacles of the corrupt eu extend into local as well as national governance. The eu undermines all accountable democracy everywhere. We have to escape the ever closing grip of the eu as we head quickly towards the United States of europe and the end of our country as we know it. Indeed there are eu plans to eradicate country names and replace them with geographical zones. It's not about where the eu is now it's about the power it will have over us in 10 years time and the dearth of accountability. Bit of trade is fine but we should make our laws and not them.[/p][/quote]Yeah, all that EU funding to support local regeneration schemes is terrible....[/p][/quote]Where do you think the money for the " EU funding" comes from? w-jback
  • Score: 32

11:37am Fri 23 May 14

w-jback says...

w-jback wrote:
DannyK86 wrote:
ROBOTS' REBELLION wrote:
UKIP voters understand that the awful controlling tentacles of the corrupt eu extend into local as well as national governance. The eu undermines all accountable democracy everywhere. We have to escape the ever closing grip of the eu as we head quickly towards the United States of europe and the end of our country as we know it. Indeed there are eu plans to eradicate country names and replace them with geographical zones. It's not about where the eu is now it's about the power it will have over us in 10 years time and the dearth of accountability. Bit of trade is fine but we should make our laws and not them.
Yeah, all that EU funding to support local regeneration schemes is terrible....
Where do you think the money for the " EU funding" comes from?
the EU, Its like living with your parents in your 40's, giving them your wages and occasionally they give you some back once they have decided how you should spend it.
[quote][p][bold]w-jback[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DannyK86[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ROBOTS' REBELLION[/bold] wrote: UKIP voters understand that the awful controlling tentacles of the corrupt eu extend into local as well as national governance. The eu undermines all accountable democracy everywhere. We have to escape the ever closing grip of the eu as we head quickly towards the United States of europe and the end of our country as we know it. Indeed there are eu plans to eradicate country names and replace them with geographical zones. It's not about where the eu is now it's about the power it will have over us in 10 years time and the dearth of accountability. Bit of trade is fine but we should make our laws and not them.[/p][/quote]Yeah, all that EU funding to support local regeneration schemes is terrible....[/p][/quote]Where do you think the money for the " EU funding" comes from?[/p][/quote]the EU, Its like living with your parents in your 40's, giving them your wages and occasionally they give you some back once they have decided how you should spend it. w-jback
  • Score: 39

12:00pm Fri 23 May 14

pembury53 says...

Shoebury Shrimper wrote:
I never thought I would be living in a ward with a UKIP councillor. A worrying time for those of us who do not agree with their prejudices and scaremongering. The Poles, Czechs etc were most welcome to assist this country in World War 2. They are now seen by many people as "a problem". A sad time now that these attitudes seem to have won the day.
could you please explain how believing in a controlled immigration policy is prejudice ? i suppose the australians, canadians, swiss, kiwi's etc are all racist xenophobes for having points based systems, or is only when brits dare to suggest putting uk citizens first that counts as prejudice ?
[quote][p][bold]Shoebury Shrimper[/bold] wrote: I never thought I would be living in a ward with a UKIP councillor. A worrying time for those of us who do not agree with their prejudices and scaremongering. The Poles, Czechs etc were most welcome to assist this country in World War 2. They are now seen by many people as "a problem". A sad time now that these attitudes seem to have won the day.[/p][/quote]could you please explain how believing in a controlled immigration policy is prejudice ? i suppose the australians, canadians, swiss, kiwi's etc are all racist xenophobes for having points based systems, or is only when brits dare to suggest putting uk citizens first that counts as prejudice ? pembury53
  • Score: 41

1:04pm Fri 23 May 14

Maverick06 says...

People like UKIP because they are not scared to say what they think because they will be called racists! The main parties can learn a lot from the UKIP vote, if they are prepared to open their eyes?
The EU isn’t all bad, but they dictate too much to us and we let them. UKIP are happy to stand up and say ‘NO’ and don’t care who they offend.
Southend council struggled to get anything done when there was a majority, now being hung it is going to be almost impossible! Deals will need to be done on almost every issue and that will not help Southend.
If you are an EU immigrant, you should be free to go anywhere in Europe, but there should be strict restrictions on what you can and can’t do:
1. No benefits for a minimum of 5 years and after that only if you have proof you have paid tax and national insurance for this period.
2. No free NHS for 5 years, you pay an insurance policy like they do for the English people in France and Spain.
3. No free housing for 10 years, they rent!
4. ANY criminal act that they are found guilty of and they are immediately repatriated with their family despite the fact that their children might have been born in the UK. This would make sure there are more law abiding citizens, which means the criminal gangs that spring up everywhere wouldn’t get a foothold in to a community.
5. What is wrong with the points system used in Australia?
These are not racist views, these are just asking people coming to this country to behave and contribute.
For the people of the UK, force people to take the low paid jobs that are only normally picked up by immigrants coming in to the country. Stop paying the massive benefit to people who don’t want to work, there are jobs!! People are sick of the freeloading society that thinks they are owed a living, governments should take a hard line and do something about it!
EU subsidies are fine, but do we get enough back? The French farmers get so much more than our farmers, the Spanish fisherman get so much more than our fisherman, why?
Why do we pay money out to African countries to help poverty when most of it goes to criminal governments? Why do we send money to Syria, when Arab countries should be supporting their neighbours?
What will UKIP do for Southend? Very little I would suggest except muddy the waters a little more than the Independents already do now. The problem in Southend as well as the country is nobody listens to what is important to the people in that area. It might be our schools or our hospital or our pot holes or the state of our High Street, but they are local problems for local people and this election in my opinion hasn’t helped get things done in Southend!
People like UKIP because they are not scared to say what they think because they will be called racists! The main parties can learn a lot from the UKIP vote, if they are prepared to open their eyes? The EU isn’t all bad, but they dictate too much to us and we let them. UKIP are happy to stand up and say ‘NO’ and don’t care who they offend. Southend council struggled to get anything done when there was a majority, now being hung it is going to be almost impossible! Deals will need to be done on almost every issue and that will not help Southend. If you are an EU immigrant, you should be free to go anywhere in Europe, but there should be strict restrictions on what you can and can’t do: 1. No benefits for a minimum of 5 years and after that only if you have proof you have paid tax and national insurance for this period. 2. No free NHS for 5 years, you pay an insurance policy like they do for the English people in France and Spain. 3. No free housing for 10 years, they rent! 4. ANY criminal act that they are found guilty of and they are immediately repatriated with their family despite the fact that their children might have been born in the UK. This would make sure there are more law abiding citizens, which means the criminal gangs that spring up everywhere wouldn’t get a foothold in to a community. 5. What is wrong with the points system used in Australia? These are not racist views, these are just asking people coming to this country to behave and contribute. For the people of the UK, force people to take the low paid jobs that are only normally picked up by immigrants coming in to the country. Stop paying the massive benefit to people who don’t want to work, there are jobs!! People are sick of the freeloading society that thinks they are owed a living, governments should take a hard line and do something about it! EU subsidies are fine, but do we get enough back? The French farmers get so much more than our farmers, the Spanish fisherman get so much more than our fisherman, why? Why do we pay money out to African countries to help poverty when most of it goes to criminal governments? Why do we send money to Syria, when Arab countries should be supporting their neighbours? What will UKIP do for Southend? Very little I would suggest except muddy the waters a little more than the Independents already do now. The problem in Southend as well as the country is nobody listens to what is important to the people in that area. It might be our schools or our hospital or our pot holes or the state of our High Street, but they are local problems for local people and this election in my opinion hasn’t helped get things done in Southend! Maverick06
  • Score: 34

1:19pm Fri 23 May 14

PKP says...

At long last! To be honest I don't entirely know how I feel about UKIP but it's good to see the Conservative stranglehold of Southend finally broken :)
At long last! To be honest I don't entirely know how I feel about UKIP but it's good to see the Conservative stranglehold of Southend finally broken :) PKP
  • Score: 20

1:31pm Fri 23 May 14

Shoebury Shrimper says...

pembury53 wrote:
Shoebury Shrimper wrote:
I never thought I would be living in a ward with a UKIP councillor. A worrying time for those of us who do not agree with their prejudices and scaremongering. The Poles, Czechs etc were most welcome to assist this country in World War 2. They are now seen by many people as "a problem". A sad time now that these attitudes seem to have won the day.
could you please explain how believing in a controlled immigration policy is prejudice ? i suppose the australians, canadians, swiss, kiwi's etc are all racist xenophobes for having points based systems, or is only when brits dare to suggest putting uk citizens first that counts as prejudice ?
The UK has similar to a points system when it comes to non EU applicants. The ideal of the EU is to have a federal system similar to the USA. A united states of Europe including free movement is to make sure that ALL member states have the same opportunities regarding work, education etc. Wouldn't it be a better world or continent if other countries such as Poland, Lithuania etc progress and that their residents have a better quality of life? Or, do we just care about ourselves and our own affluence? Immigration is helpful to our country, how would the NHS survive for instance? EU migrants are not taking our jobs, by and large they do the work that sadly some of the UK population do not wish to do. What I have against UKIP is the remarks they make about people from other countries, such as "they are a problem" or "I wouldn't want Romanians living next door" Most of the immigrants are just trying to better themselves and their families just the same as the rest of us.
[quote][p][bold]pembury53[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoebury Shrimper[/bold] wrote: I never thought I would be living in a ward with a UKIP councillor. A worrying time for those of us who do not agree with their prejudices and scaremongering. The Poles, Czechs etc were most welcome to assist this country in World War 2. They are now seen by many people as "a problem". A sad time now that these attitudes seem to have won the day.[/p][/quote]could you please explain how believing in a controlled immigration policy is prejudice ? i suppose the australians, canadians, swiss, kiwi's etc are all racist xenophobes for having points based systems, or is only when brits dare to suggest putting uk citizens first that counts as prejudice ?[/p][/quote]The UK has similar to a points system when it comes to non EU applicants. The ideal of the EU is to have a federal system similar to the USA. A united states of Europe including free movement is to make sure that ALL member states have the same opportunities regarding work, education etc. Wouldn't it be a better world or continent if other countries such as Poland, Lithuania etc progress and that their residents have a better quality of life? Or, do we just care about ourselves and our own affluence? Immigration is helpful to our country, how would the NHS survive for instance? EU migrants are not taking our jobs, by and large they do the work that sadly some of the UK population do not wish to do. What I have against UKIP is the remarks they make about people from other countries, such as "they are a problem" or "I wouldn't want Romanians living next door" Most of the immigrants are just trying to better themselves and their families just the same as the rest of us. Shoebury Shrimper
  • Score: -15

2:01pm Fri 23 May 14

Alekhine says...

Shoebury Shrimper wrote:
pembury53 wrote:
Shoebury Shrimper wrote:
I never thought I would be living in a ward with a UKIP councillor. A worrying time for those of us who do not agree with their prejudices and scaremongering. The Poles, Czechs etc were most welcome to assist this country in World War 2. They are now seen by many people as "a problem". A sad time now that these attitudes seem to have won the day.
could you please explain how believing in a controlled immigration policy is prejudice ? i suppose the australians, canadians, swiss, kiwi's etc are all racist xenophobes for having points based systems, or is only when brits dare to suggest putting uk citizens first that counts as prejudice ?
The UK has similar to a points system when it comes to non EU applicants. The ideal of the EU is to have a federal system similar to the USA. A united states of Europe including free movement is to make sure that ALL member states have the same opportunities regarding work, education etc. Wouldn't it be a better world or continent if other countries such as Poland, Lithuania etc progress and that their residents have a better quality of life? Or, do we just care about ourselves and our own affluence? Immigration is helpful to our country, how would the NHS survive for instance? EU migrants are not taking our jobs, by and large they do the work that sadly some of the UK population do not wish to do. What I have against UKIP is the remarks they make about people from other countries, such as "they are a problem" or "I wouldn't want Romanians living next door" Most of the immigrants are just trying to better themselves and their families just the same as the rest of us.
I voted for a common market not a federal system. Funny, i do not remember there every being a vote about a federal system. You would think, with something that important, the public would have been consulted.
[quote][p][bold]Shoebury Shrimper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pembury53[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoebury Shrimper[/bold] wrote: I never thought I would be living in a ward with a UKIP councillor. A worrying time for those of us who do not agree with their prejudices and scaremongering. The Poles, Czechs etc were most welcome to assist this country in World War 2. They are now seen by many people as "a problem". A sad time now that these attitudes seem to have won the day.[/p][/quote]could you please explain how believing in a controlled immigration policy is prejudice ? i suppose the australians, canadians, swiss, kiwi's etc are all racist xenophobes for having points based systems, or is only when brits dare to suggest putting uk citizens first that counts as prejudice ?[/p][/quote]The UK has similar to a points system when it comes to non EU applicants. The ideal of the EU is to have a federal system similar to the USA. A united states of Europe including free movement is to make sure that ALL member states have the same opportunities regarding work, education etc. Wouldn't it be a better world or continent if other countries such as Poland, Lithuania etc progress and that their residents have a better quality of life? Or, do we just care about ourselves and our own affluence? Immigration is helpful to our country, how would the NHS survive for instance? EU migrants are not taking our jobs, by and large they do the work that sadly some of the UK population do not wish to do. What I have against UKIP is the remarks they make about people from other countries, such as "they are a problem" or "I wouldn't want Romanians living next door" Most of the immigrants are just trying to better themselves and their families just the same as the rest of us.[/p][/quote]I voted for a common market not a federal system. Funny, i do not remember there every being a vote about a federal system. You would think, with something that important, the public would have been consulted. Alekhine
  • Score: 23

3:53pm Fri 23 May 14

Alfiee says...

pembury53 wrote:
excellent news, but all to no avail if voters haven't the back bone to do the same next year.... a protest vote will achieve absolutely nothing, the political elite are not that stupid, they will say 'we hear you' but do nothing, safe in the knowledge that most voters are cowards, and in truth, frightened of change...
Not this one mine was not a protest vote. I will stand by UKIP in 2015. The others have done nothing but lie. We have nothing left so the fight goes on. I'm pleased my vote counted.
[quote][p][bold]pembury53[/bold] wrote: excellent news, but all to no avail if voters haven't the back bone to do the same next year.... a protest vote will achieve absolutely nothing, the political elite are not that stupid, they will say 'we hear you' but do nothing, safe in the knowledge that most voters are cowards, and in truth, frightened of change...[/p][/quote]Not this one mine was not a protest vote. I will stand by UKIP in 2015. The others have done nothing but lie. We have nothing left so the fight goes on. I'm pleased my vote counted. Alfiee
  • Score: 16

4:19pm Fri 23 May 14

pembury53 says...

Alfiee wrote:
pembury53 wrote:
excellent news, but all to no avail if voters haven't the back bone to do the same next year.... a protest vote will achieve absolutely nothing, the political elite are not that stupid, they will say 'we hear you' but do nothing, safe in the knowledge that most voters are cowards, and in truth, frightened of change...
Not this one mine was not a protest vote. I will stand by UKIP in 2015. The others have done nothing but lie. We have nothing left so the fight goes on. I'm pleased my vote counted.
likewise.... nice one, and i'll be joining you next year....
[quote][p][bold]Alfiee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pembury53[/bold] wrote: excellent news, but all to no avail if voters haven't the back bone to do the same next year.... a protest vote will achieve absolutely nothing, the political elite are not that stupid, they will say 'we hear you' but do nothing, safe in the knowledge that most voters are cowards, and in truth, frightened of change...[/p][/quote]Not this one mine was not a protest vote. I will stand by UKIP in 2015. The others have done nothing but lie. We have nothing left so the fight goes on. I'm pleased my vote counted.[/p][/quote]likewise.... nice one, and i'll be joining you next year.... pembury53
  • Score: 7

4:36pm Fri 23 May 14

pembury53 says...

Shoebury Shrimper wrote:
pembury53 wrote:
Shoebury Shrimper wrote:
I never thought I would be living in a ward with a UKIP councillor. A worrying time for those of us who do not agree with their prejudices and scaremongering. The Poles, Czechs etc were most welcome to assist this country in World War 2. They are now seen by many people as "a problem". A sad time now that these attitudes seem to have won the day.
could you please explain how believing in a controlled immigration policy is prejudice ? i suppose the australians, canadians, swiss, kiwi's etc are all racist xenophobes for having points based systems, or is only when brits dare to suggest putting uk citizens first that counts as prejudice ?
The UK has similar to a points system when it comes to non EU applicants. The ideal of the EU is to have a federal system similar to the USA. A united states of Europe including free movement is to make sure that ALL member states have the same opportunities regarding work, education etc. Wouldn't it be a better world or continent if other countries such as Poland, Lithuania etc progress and that their residents have a better quality of life? Or, do we just care about ourselves and our own affluence? Immigration is helpful to our country, how would the NHS survive for instance? EU migrants are not taking our jobs, by and large they do the work that sadly some of the UK population do not wish to do. What I have against UKIP is the remarks they make about people from other countries, such as "they are a problem" or "I wouldn't want Romanians living next door" Most of the immigrants are just trying to better themselves and their families just the same as the rest of us.
sadly, like so many you just keep missing the point..... how would the NHS survive ? well, like it does now by employing migrants, if they qualify and that is the best option for the NHS, but that doesn't have to mean open door immigration ! "wouldn't it be better if poland etc progress and their residents have a better quality of life" ....... yes it would, but that is not acheived by the very people that should be building those economies leaving in droves, as is now being highlighted by the goverments of those countries as a serious concern, i.e. brain drain..... you mention 'equal opportunities' but the problem with this european model of equality is that it is complete boll0cks... if you want equality then the minimum pay and benefits systems need to be equalised in every member state, otherwise this country will continue to be seen as the best option..... you may think that is good news, but personally i think we're crowded enough thanks, one of the highest population densities in the developed world, and i can't understand for the life of me why anyone thinks its a good idea to drive it even higher...... immigrants may be trying to better themselves just like the rest of us, but what kind of basis of an argument is that for changing this country out of all recognition, in a process that cannot be reversed ?
[quote][p][bold]Shoebury Shrimper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pembury53[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoebury Shrimper[/bold] wrote: I never thought I would be living in a ward with a UKIP councillor. A worrying time for those of us who do not agree with their prejudices and scaremongering. The Poles, Czechs etc were most welcome to assist this country in World War 2. They are now seen by many people as "a problem". A sad time now that these attitudes seem to have won the day.[/p][/quote]could you please explain how believing in a controlled immigration policy is prejudice ? i suppose the australians, canadians, swiss, kiwi's etc are all racist xenophobes for having points based systems, or is only when brits dare to suggest putting uk citizens first that counts as prejudice ?[/p][/quote]The UK has similar to a points system when it comes to non EU applicants. The ideal of the EU is to have a federal system similar to the USA. A united states of Europe including free movement is to make sure that ALL member states have the same opportunities regarding work, education etc. Wouldn't it be a better world or continent if other countries such as Poland, Lithuania etc progress and that their residents have a better quality of life? Or, do we just care about ourselves and our own affluence? Immigration is helpful to our country, how would the NHS survive for instance? EU migrants are not taking our jobs, by and large they do the work that sadly some of the UK population do not wish to do. What I have against UKIP is the remarks they make about people from other countries, such as "they are a problem" or "I wouldn't want Romanians living next door" Most of the immigrants are just trying to better themselves and their families just the same as the rest of us.[/p][/quote]sadly, like so many you just keep missing the point..... how would the NHS survive ? well, like it does now by employing migrants, if they qualify and that is the best option for the NHS, but that doesn't have to mean open door immigration ! "wouldn't it be better if poland etc progress and their residents have a better quality of life" ....... yes it would, but that is not acheived by the very people that should be building those economies leaving in droves, as is now being highlighted by the goverments of those countries as a serious concern, i.e. brain drain..... you mention 'equal opportunities' but the problem with this european model of equality is that it is complete boll0cks... if you want equality then the minimum pay and benefits systems need to be equalised in every member state, otherwise this country will continue to be seen as the best option..... you may think that is good news, but personally i think we're crowded enough thanks, one of the highest population densities in the developed world, and i can't understand for the life of me why anyone thinks its a good idea to drive it even higher...... immigrants may be trying to better themselves just like the rest of us, but what kind of basis of an argument is that for changing this country out of all recognition, in a process that cannot be reversed ? pembury53
  • Score: 15

4:49pm Fri 23 May 14

mauwoman says...

Kursaal76 wrote:
the citizen wrote:
Real shame about the UKIP councillors being voted in...but that's the joy of democracy for you. perhaps it is the main parties that need to look at themselves. Still....at least Alex Kaye got her reward for treating her constituents with such disrespect as to jump ship during her term.
brilliant ukip got voted in. now all we need is more young people voting. hopefully ukip will get more voted next time.
I think you will find youngsters are more keen on being in Europe with all the job opportunities it offers.
[quote][p][bold]Kursaal76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the citizen[/bold] wrote: Real shame about the UKIP councillors being voted in...but that's the joy of democracy for you. perhaps it is the main parties that need to look at themselves. Still....at least Alex Kaye got her reward for treating her constituents with such disrespect as to jump ship during her term.[/p][/quote]brilliant ukip got voted in. now all we need is more young people voting. hopefully ukip will get more voted next time.[/p][/quote]I think you will find youngsters are more keen on being in Europe with all the job opportunities it offers. mauwoman
  • Score: -6

4:52pm Fri 23 May 14

jolllyboy says...

Pity tories held on in Rochford with a control. In southend I expect the independents will do a deal again to protect their precious thorpe bay from the likes of the rest.

tories lost votes because they asked the residents what they thought/wanted and then totally ignored them.

give us our Lidl in Rayleigh Road. Rething the sea wall in shoebury, get on with the business/retail centre proomised in nestuda way etc etc.
Pity tories held on in Rochford with a control. In southend I expect the independents will do a deal again to protect their precious thorpe bay from the likes of the rest. tories lost votes because they asked the residents what they thought/wanted and then totally ignored them. give us our Lidl in Rayleigh Road. Rething the sea wall in shoebury, get on with the business/retail centre proomised in nestuda way etc etc. jolllyboy
  • Score: 6

4:53pm Fri 23 May 14

alla29 says...

It is very sad day :-(
It is very sad day :-( alla29
  • Score: -9

5:10pm Fri 23 May 14

Living the La Vida Legra says...

boo beckett wrote:
Hopefully now, whoever gets control of the council will get rid of the cash cows that are the 'spy cars' and introduce free parking on Sundays in the town to increase the revenue for shops and other local businesses.
Why get rid of spy cars?
[quote][p][bold]boo beckett[/bold] wrote: Hopefully now, whoever gets control of the council will get rid of the cash cows that are the 'spy cars' and introduce free parking on Sundays in the town to increase the revenue for shops and other local businesses.[/p][/quote]Why get rid of spy cars? Living the La Vida Legra
  • Score: 0

5:14pm Fri 23 May 14

Kursaal76 says...

Happy Chickie wrote:
Kursaal76 wrote:
the citizen wrote:
Real shame about the UKIP councillors being voted in...but that's the joy of democracy for you. perhaps it is the main parties that need to look at themselves. Still....at least Alex Kaye got her reward for treating her constituents with such disrespect as to jump ship during her term.
brilliant ukip got voted in. now all we need is more young people voting. hopefully ukip will get more voted next time.
Only 23% in the Kursaal ward voted.
it may only be 23% but was enough for ukip to take over
[quote][p][bold]Happy Chickie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kursaal76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the citizen[/bold] wrote: Real shame about the UKIP councillors being voted in...but that's the joy of democracy for you. perhaps it is the main parties that need to look at themselves. Still....at least Alex Kaye got her reward for treating her constituents with such disrespect as to jump ship during her term.[/p][/quote]brilliant ukip got voted in. now all we need is more young people voting. hopefully ukip will get more voted next time.[/p][/quote]Only 23% in the Kursaal ward voted.[/p][/quote]it may only be 23% but was enough for ukip to take over Kursaal76
  • Score: 7

5:16pm Fri 23 May 14

Kursaal76 says...

Alfiee wrote:
Kursaal76 wrote:
the citizen wrote:
Real shame about the UKIP councillors being voted in...but that's the joy of democracy for you. perhaps it is the main parties that need to look at themselves. Still....at least Alex Kaye got her reward for treating her constituents with such disrespect as to jump ship during her term.
brilliant ukip got voted in. now all we need is more young people voting. hopefully ukip will get more voted next time.
I'm so so Happy that Kursal UKIP got in. Proud my vote counted. Call me what you like. Votes talk. People are fed up we have every right to vote for who we choose. The racist card is wrong in every way. Now roll on 2015. History in the making. :-)
so true
[quote][p][bold]Alfiee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kursaal76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the citizen[/bold] wrote: Real shame about the UKIP councillors being voted in...but that's the joy of democracy for you. perhaps it is the main parties that need to look at themselves. Still....at least Alex Kaye got her reward for treating her constituents with such disrespect as to jump ship during her term.[/p][/quote]brilliant ukip got voted in. now all we need is more young people voting. hopefully ukip will get more voted next time.[/p][/quote]I'm so so Happy that Kursal UKIP got in. Proud my vote counted. Call me what you like. Votes talk. People are fed up we have every right to vote for who we choose. The racist card is wrong in every way. Now roll on 2015. History in the making. :-)[/p][/quote]so true Kursaal76
  • Score: 2

6:53pm Fri 23 May 14

CarnMountification says...

Kursaal76 wrote:
Alfiee wrote:
Kursaal76 wrote:
the citizen wrote:
Real shame about the UKIP councillors being voted in...but that's the joy of democracy for you. perhaps it is the main parties that need to look at themselves. Still....at least Alex Kaye got her reward for treating her constituents with such disrespect as to jump ship during her term.
brilliant ukip got voted in. now all we need is more young people voting. hopefully ukip will get more voted next time.
I'm so so Happy that Kursal UKIP got in. Proud my vote counted. Call me what you like. Votes talk. People are fed up we have every right to vote for who we choose. The racist card is wrong in every way. Now roll on 2015. History in the making. :-)
so true
In 1930 Germany, a similar thing happened, through blind ignorance, but at least their leader, had an idea....
[quote][p][bold]Kursaal76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alfiee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kursaal76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the citizen[/bold] wrote: Real shame about the UKIP councillors being voted in...but that's the joy of democracy for you. perhaps it is the main parties that need to look at themselves. Still....at least Alex Kaye got her reward for treating her constituents with such disrespect as to jump ship during her term.[/p][/quote]brilliant ukip got voted in. now all we need is more young people voting. hopefully ukip will get more voted next time.[/p][/quote]I'm so so Happy that Kursal UKIP got in. Proud my vote counted. Call me what you like. Votes talk. People are fed up we have every right to vote for who we choose. The racist card is wrong in every way. Now roll on 2015. History in the making. :-)[/p][/quote]so true[/p][/quote]In 1930 Germany, a similar thing happened, through blind ignorance, but at least their leader, had an idea.... CarnMountification
  • Score: -2

10:02pm Fri 23 May 14

Bob Cratchitt says...

I am not sure if I am misunderstanding things but how can a Southend Councillor affect EU Membership or immigration policy?

Local councillors should be voted on the basis of Local issues not National or even European.
I am not sure if I am misunderstanding things but how can a Southend Councillor affect EU Membership or immigration policy? Local councillors should be voted on the basis of Local issues not National or even European. Bob Cratchitt
  • Score: 14

10:03pm Fri 23 May 14

gary 51 says...

Crickey, the blue rosette on a donkey has failed, great any chance the Tories can now stop parking their 4 x 4 vehicles on the pavement in Southend so as to let pedestrians through, ****
Crickey, the blue rosette on a donkey has failed, great any chance the Tories can now stop parking their 4 x 4 vehicles on the pavement in Southend so as to let pedestrians through, **** gary 51
  • Score: 8

12:25am Sat 24 May 14

ThisYear says...

alarminstaller wrote:
The main parties need to listen to what the people are actually saying, many politicians have closed their minds to many ideas and views of the general public and only listen to their own party views and ideas.
That is what being a councillor (and MP) is all about...this listening to the voters is like the unicorn...its a myth.

And the only ones who believe it are...the voters
[quote][p][bold]alarminstaller[/bold] wrote: The main parties need to listen to what the people are actually saying, many politicians have closed their minds to many ideas and views of the general public and only listen to their own party views and ideas.[/p][/quote]That is what being a councillor (and MP) is all about...this listening to the voters is like the unicorn...its a myth. And the only ones who believe it are...the voters ThisYear
  • Score: 5

12:27am Sat 24 May 14

ThisYear says...

GrumpyofLeigh wrote:
Where's Kim?
The extreme right of the extreme right.
[quote][p][bold]GrumpyofLeigh[/bold] wrote: Where's Kim?[/p][/quote]The extreme right of the extreme right. ThisYear
  • Score: 2

12:30am Sat 24 May 14

ThisYear says...

Alekhine wrote:
Shoebury Shrimper wrote:
pembury53 wrote:
Shoebury Shrimper wrote:
I never thought I would be living in a ward with a UKIP councillor. A worrying time for those of us who do not agree with their prejudices and scaremongering. The Poles, Czechs etc were most welcome to assist this country in World War 2. They are now seen by many people as "a problem". A sad time now that these attitudes seem to have won the day.
could you please explain how believing in a controlled immigration policy is prejudice ? i suppose the australians, canadians, swiss, kiwi's etc are all racist xenophobes for having points based systems, or is only when brits dare to suggest putting uk citizens first that counts as prejudice ?
The UK has similar to a points system when it comes to non EU applicants. The ideal of the EU is to have a federal system similar to the USA. A united states of Europe including free movement is to make sure that ALL member states have the same opportunities regarding work, education etc. Wouldn't it be a better world or continent if other countries such as Poland, Lithuania etc progress and that their residents have a better quality of life? Or, do we just care about ourselves and our own affluence? Immigration is helpful to our country, how would the NHS survive for instance? EU migrants are not taking our jobs, by and large they do the work that sadly some of the UK population do not wish to do. What I have against UKIP is the remarks they make about people from other countries, such as "they are a problem" or "I wouldn't want Romanians living next door" Most of the immigrants are just trying to better themselves and their families just the same as the rest of us.
I voted for a common market not a federal system. Funny, i do not remember there every being a vote about a federal system. You would think, with something that important, the public would have been consulted.
Blame your Ted Heath for that..Was he a Labour or Tory man?
[quote][p][bold]Alekhine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoebury Shrimper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pembury53[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoebury Shrimper[/bold] wrote: I never thought I would be living in a ward with a UKIP councillor. A worrying time for those of us who do not agree with their prejudices and scaremongering. The Poles, Czechs etc were most welcome to assist this country in World War 2. They are now seen by many people as "a problem". A sad time now that these attitudes seem to have won the day.[/p][/quote]could you please explain how believing in a controlled immigration policy is prejudice ? i suppose the australians, canadians, swiss, kiwi's etc are all racist xenophobes for having points based systems, or is only when brits dare to suggest putting uk citizens first that counts as prejudice ?[/p][/quote]The UK has similar to a points system when it comes to non EU applicants. The ideal of the EU is to have a federal system similar to the USA. A united states of Europe including free movement is to make sure that ALL member states have the same opportunities regarding work, education etc. Wouldn't it be a better world or continent if other countries such as Poland, Lithuania etc progress and that their residents have a better quality of life? Or, do we just care about ourselves and our own affluence? Immigration is helpful to our country, how would the NHS survive for instance? EU migrants are not taking our jobs, by and large they do the work that sadly some of the UK population do not wish to do. What I have against UKIP is the remarks they make about people from other countries, such as "they are a problem" or "I wouldn't want Romanians living next door" Most of the immigrants are just trying to better themselves and their families just the same as the rest of us.[/p][/quote]I voted for a common market not a federal system. Funny, i do not remember there every being a vote about a federal system. You would think, with something that important, the public would have been consulted.[/p][/quote]Blame your Ted Heath for that..Was he a Labour or Tory man? ThisYear
  • Score: 2

6:46am Sat 24 May 14

rodgdodge says...

NHS ect.
We do not need to be in the E.U. to get staff.
Many of our discarded colonies ( who ALREADY speak English) , have qualified staff, who would jump at the chance to serve the ` old country`.
Not to mention the Philippines ( also English ( American style) speaking), are well regarded.
New E.U. migrants, occupy accommodation ( of which we have a historical lack of, due to lack of government and private investment, going back decades!). put pressure on local education, health services and transport.
The present rush to build elementary classes in schools is just one example of this.
The E.U parents have NOT paid sufficient tax due to normally low wages, that they qualify for Housing Benefits, tax credits, free health and all the other hand-outs.
This is paid for, by the rest of the British Tax payers.
NHS ect. We do not need to be in the E.U. to get staff. Many of our discarded colonies ( who ALREADY speak English) , have qualified staff, who would jump at the chance to serve the ` old country`. Not to mention the Philippines ( also English ( American style) speaking), are well regarded. New E.U. migrants, occupy accommodation ( of which we have a historical lack of, due to lack of government and private investment, going back decades!). put pressure on local education, health services and transport. The present rush to build elementary classes in schools is just one example of this. The E.U parents have NOT paid sufficient tax due to normally low wages, that they qualify for Housing Benefits, tax credits, free health and all the other hand-outs. This is paid for, by the rest of the British Tax payers. rodgdodge
  • Score: 6

2:32pm Sat 24 May 14

ROBOTS' REBELLION says...

Southend-on-Sea has the 8th densest population in England, outside of London. I want less density of population in my town, not more. Solution - control immigration nationally and therefore locally.
Southend-on-Sea has the 8th densest population in England, outside of London. I want less density of population in my town, not more. Solution - control immigration nationally and therefore locally. ROBOTS' REBELLION
  • Score: 6

7:29pm Sat 24 May 14

Alfiee says...

pembury53 wrote:
andy:) wrote:
As UKIP are only a one issue party I cant really see the point of them as local councillors, does anyone really know what their local policies will be and how they differ from the other parties.
well, now is the chance to find out surely ? presumably people were aware of the tories local policies and that brought nothing but derision from most on here....... why are people so terrified of any change, particularly when what we have is considered by many to be a council full of self serving con artists and liars..... give it a go and find out if there is better out there, its democracy, you are judge and jury, and can vote them out again....... it's about the only real power the public has..... use it !
Well said. At the end of the day we have nothing left. So we need to give UKIP a chance to see if they do make a difference. I personally think it will do this Tory Council good to have others in office. They have had their own way for to long. Once we see how UKIP fair. Then they will or will not get votes in 2015. I hope they do because I like what I hear, also their manifest is due in September I believe, so we can all judge then. But let's give them a chance.
[quote][p][bold]pembury53[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andy:)[/bold] wrote: As UKIP are only a one issue party I cant really see the point of them as local councillors, does anyone really know what their local policies will be and how they differ from the other parties.[/p][/quote]well, now is the chance to find out surely ? presumably people were aware of the tories local policies and that brought nothing but derision from most on here....... why are people so terrified of any change, particularly when what we have is considered by many to be a council full of self serving con artists and liars..... give it a go and find out if there is better out there, its democracy, you are judge and jury, and can vote them out again....... it's about the only real power the public has..... use it ![/p][/quote]Well said. At the end of the day we have nothing left. So we need to give UKIP a chance to see if they do make a difference. I personally think it will do this Tory Council good to have others in office. They have had their own way for to long. Once we see how UKIP fair. Then they will or will not get votes in 2015. I hope they do because I like what I hear, also their manifest is due in September I believe, so we can all judge then. But let's give them a chance. Alfiee
  • Score: -1

8:38pm Sat 24 May 14

profondo asbo says...

the eu is an evil institution. civil unrest is on the rise across europe. the genie is out of the bottle
the eu is an evil institution. civil unrest is on the rise across europe. the genie is out of the bottle profondo asbo
  • Score: -2

10:05pm Sat 24 May 14

ThisYear says...

profondo asbo wrote:
the eu is an evil institution. civil unrest is on the rise across europe. the genie is out of the bottle
Rest assured little tweeb there will be no revolution here...so you and those digging "swimming pools' in the cellars can rest easy while sleeping on your bank books.
[quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: the eu is an evil institution. civil unrest is on the rise across europe. the genie is out of the bottle[/p][/quote]Rest assured little tweeb there will be no revolution here...so you and those digging "swimming pools' in the cellars can rest easy while sleeping on your bank books. ThisYear
  • Score: 0

10:51pm Sat 24 May 14

profondo asbo says...

CarnMountification wrote:
Kursaal76 wrote:
Alfiee wrote:
Kursaal76 wrote:
the citizen wrote:
Real shame about the UKIP councillors being voted in...but that's the joy of democracy for you. perhaps it is the main parties that need to look at themselves. Still....at least Alex Kaye got her reward for treating her constituents with such disrespect as to jump ship during her term.
brilliant ukip got voted in. now all we need is more young people voting. hopefully ukip will get more voted next time.
I'm so so Happy that Kursal UKIP got in. Proud my vote counted. Call me what you like. Votes talk. People are fed up we have every right to vote for who we choose. The racist card is wrong in every way. Now roll on 2015. History in the making. :-)
so true
In 1930 Germany, a similar thing happened, through blind ignorance, but at least their leader, had an idea....
there are zero parallels.
[quote][p][bold]CarnMountification[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kursaal76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alfiee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kursaal76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the citizen[/bold] wrote: Real shame about the UKIP councillors being voted in...but that's the joy of democracy for you. perhaps it is the main parties that need to look at themselves. Still....at least Alex Kaye got her reward for treating her constituents with such disrespect as to jump ship during her term.[/p][/quote]brilliant ukip got voted in. now all we need is more young people voting. hopefully ukip will get more voted next time.[/p][/quote]I'm so so Happy that Kursal UKIP got in. Proud my vote counted. Call me what you like. Votes talk. People are fed up we have every right to vote for who we choose. The racist card is wrong in every way. Now roll on 2015. History in the making. :-)[/p][/quote]so true[/p][/quote]In 1930 Germany, a similar thing happened, through blind ignorance, but at least their leader, had an idea....[/p][/quote]there are zero parallels. profondo asbo
  • Score: -5

11:03pm Sat 24 May 14

profondo asbo says...

Alekhine wrote:
Shoebury Shrimper wrote:
pembury53 wrote:
Shoebury Shrimper wrote:
I never thought I would be living in a ward with a UKIP councillor. A worrying time for those of us who do not agree with their prejudices and scaremongering. The Poles, Czechs etc were most welcome to assist this country in World War 2. They are now seen by many people as "a problem". A sad time now that these attitudes seem to have won the day.
could you please explain how believing in a controlled immigration policy is prejudice ? i suppose the australians, canadians, swiss, kiwi's etc are all racist xenophobes for having points based systems, or is only when brits dare to suggest putting uk citizens first that counts as prejudice ?
The UK has similar to a points system when it comes to non EU applicants. The ideal of the EU is to have a federal system similar to the USA. A united states of Europe including free movement is to make sure that ALL member states have the same opportunities regarding work, education etc. Wouldn't it be a better world or continent if other countries such as Poland, Lithuania etc progress and that their residents have a better quality of life? Or, do we just care about ourselves and our own affluence? Immigration is helpful to our country, how would the NHS survive for instance? EU migrants are not taking our jobs, by and large they do the work that sadly some of the UK population do not wish to do. What I have against UKIP is the remarks they make about people from other countries, such as "they are a problem" or "I wouldn't want Romanians living next door" Most of the immigrants are just trying to better themselves and their families just the same as the rest of us.
I voted for a common market not a federal system. Funny, i do not remember there every being a vote about a federal system. You would think, with something that important, the public would have been consulted.
michael foot was a visionary. can we now have a mainstream party with the balls to argue for an eu exit?
[quote][p][bold]Alekhine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoebury Shrimper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pembury53[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoebury Shrimper[/bold] wrote: I never thought I would be living in a ward with a UKIP councillor. A worrying time for those of us who do not agree with their prejudices and scaremongering. The Poles, Czechs etc were most welcome to assist this country in World War 2. They are now seen by many people as "a problem". A sad time now that these attitudes seem to have won the day.[/p][/quote]could you please explain how believing in a controlled immigration policy is prejudice ? i suppose the australians, canadians, swiss, kiwi's etc are all racist xenophobes for having points based systems, or is only when brits dare to suggest putting uk citizens first that counts as prejudice ?[/p][/quote]The UK has similar to a points system when it comes to non EU applicants. The ideal of the EU is to have a federal system similar to the USA. A united states of Europe including free movement is to make sure that ALL member states have the same opportunities regarding work, education etc. Wouldn't it be a better world or continent if other countries such as Poland, Lithuania etc progress and that their residents have a better quality of life? Or, do we just care about ourselves and our own affluence? Immigration is helpful to our country, how would the NHS survive for instance? EU migrants are not taking our jobs, by and large they do the work that sadly some of the UK population do not wish to do. What I have against UKIP is the remarks they make about people from other countries, such as "they are a problem" or "I wouldn't want Romanians living next door" Most of the immigrants are just trying to better themselves and their families just the same as the rest of us.[/p][/quote]I voted for a common market not a federal system. Funny, i do not remember there every being a vote about a federal system. You would think, with something that important, the public would have been consulted.[/p][/quote]michael foot was a visionary. can we now have a mainstream party with the balls to argue for an eu exit? profondo asbo
  • Score: 0

11:07pm Sat 24 May 14

ThisYear says...

profondo asbo wrote:
Alekhine wrote:
Shoebury Shrimper wrote:
pembury53 wrote:
Shoebury Shrimper wrote:
I never thought I would be living in a ward with a UKIP councillor. A worrying time for those of us who do not agree with their prejudices and scaremongering. The Poles, Czechs etc were most welcome to assist this country in World War 2. They are now seen by many people as "a problem". A sad time now that these attitudes seem to have won the day.
could you please explain how believing in a controlled immigration policy is prejudice ? i suppose the australians, canadians, swiss, kiwi's etc are all racist xenophobes for having points based systems, or is only when brits dare to suggest putting uk citizens first that counts as prejudice ?
The UK has similar to a points system when it comes to non EU applicants. The ideal of the EU is to have a federal system similar to the USA. A united states of Europe including free movement is to make sure that ALL member states have the same opportunities regarding work, education etc. Wouldn't it be a better world or continent if other countries such as Poland, Lithuania etc progress and that their residents have a better quality of life? Or, do we just care about ourselves and our own affluence? Immigration is helpful to our country, how would the NHS survive for instance? EU migrants are not taking our jobs, by and large they do the work that sadly some of the UK population do not wish to do. What I have against UKIP is the remarks they make about people from other countries, such as "they are a problem" or "I wouldn't want Romanians living next door" Most of the immigrants are just trying to better themselves and their families just the same as the rest of us.
I voted for a common market not a federal system. Funny, i do not remember there every being a vote about a federal system. You would think, with something that important, the public would have been consulted.
michael foot was a visionary. can we now have a mainstream party with the balls to argue for an eu exit?
Who do you suggest?
[quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alekhine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoebury Shrimper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pembury53[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoebury Shrimper[/bold] wrote: I never thought I would be living in a ward with a UKIP councillor. A worrying time for those of us who do not agree with their prejudices and scaremongering. The Poles, Czechs etc were most welcome to assist this country in World War 2. They are now seen by many people as "a problem". A sad time now that these attitudes seem to have won the day.[/p][/quote]could you please explain how believing in a controlled immigration policy is prejudice ? i suppose the australians, canadians, swiss, kiwi's etc are all racist xenophobes for having points based systems, or is only when brits dare to suggest putting uk citizens first that counts as prejudice ?[/p][/quote]The UK has similar to a points system when it comes to non EU applicants. The ideal of the EU is to have a federal system similar to the USA. A united states of Europe including free movement is to make sure that ALL member states have the same opportunities regarding work, education etc. Wouldn't it be a better world or continent if other countries such as Poland, Lithuania etc progress and that their residents have a better quality of life? Or, do we just care about ourselves and our own affluence? Immigration is helpful to our country, how would the NHS survive for instance? EU migrants are not taking our jobs, by and large they do the work that sadly some of the UK population do not wish to do. What I have against UKIP is the remarks they make about people from other countries, such as "they are a problem" or "I wouldn't want Romanians living next door" Most of the immigrants are just trying to better themselves and their families just the same as the rest of us.[/p][/quote]I voted for a common market not a federal system. Funny, i do not remember there every being a vote about a federal system. You would think, with something that important, the public would have been consulted.[/p][/quote]michael foot was a visionary. can we now have a mainstream party with the balls to argue for an eu exit?[/p][/quote]Who do you suggest? ThisYear
  • Score: 5

7:37pm Mon 26 May 14

jolllyboy says...

Unfortunately it has not taken long for them to behave like kindergarten children and saying that they cant be in my team !
It is behaviour like this where people are determined not to work together that we are sick of in politics. Time for councillors to think of the town and its residents and not of who they will or wont work with.
You cannot ignore the voters choice and decisions because you will only suffer again at the next local elections. All I have heard from local and country politicians is that they feel they need to speak louder and clearer to get their message through . But this vote shows you it is the message we dont like or want.
Unfortunately it has not taken long for them to behave like kindergarten children and saying that they cant be in my team ! It is behaviour like this where people are determined not to work together that we are sick of in politics. Time for councillors to think of the town and its residents and not of who they will or wont work with. You cannot ignore the voters choice and decisions because you will only suffer again at the next local elections. All I have heard from local and country politicians is that they feel they need to speak louder and clearer to get their message through . But this vote shows you it is the message we dont like or want. jolllyboy
  • Score: 0

8:08pm Mon 26 May 14

ThisYear says...

Seems Gandy and her 'chums' have got the other threads locked down..

She invited questions pledging to answer then "honestly" and then neglected to answer them..

As in; Did she take part in an apartheid action affecting small children...what is a non political councillor...did she think she would ever be allowed to be a school governor again..did she think she would be a councillor again...

her character all becomes pertinent when you realise she continually offered support for the Ukip on these threads while leafleting for the Tories...Getting the picture..as in both parties are the same face on the coin?

"get the feeling you've been cheated" ?
Seems Gandy and her 'chums' have got the other threads locked down.. She invited questions pledging to answer then "honestly" and then neglected to answer them.. As in; Did she take part in an apartheid action affecting small children...what is a non political councillor...did she think she would ever be allowed to be a school governor again..did she think she would be a councillor again... her character all becomes pertinent when you realise she continually offered support for the Ukip on these threads while leafleting for the Tories...Getting the picture..as in both parties are the same face on the coin? "get the feeling you've been cheated" ? ThisYear
  • Score: 0

11:45am Tue 27 May 14

Happy Chickie says...

ThisYear wrote:
Seems Gandy and her 'chums' have got the other threads locked down..

She invited questions pledging to answer then "honestly" and then neglected to answer them..

As in; Did she take part in an apartheid action affecting small children...what is a non political councillor...did she think she would ever be allowed to be a school governor again..did she think she would be a councillor again...

her character all becomes pertinent when you realise she continually offered support for the Ukip on these threads while leafleting for the Tories...Getting the picture..as in both parties are the same face on the coin?

"get the feeling you've been cheated" ?
I saw that. I'm also going to complain about it too. That woman if you want to call her that, stirs the pot and then when questioned, flees and gets the threads closed down. What a coward she is.

Gandy is a complete and utter basket case and needs to be sectioned.
It is also disturbing to think that she was a school governor, around kids with that constant extreme right wing diatribe.

Frightening that she is allowed to walk the streets.
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: Seems Gandy and her 'chums' have got the other threads locked down.. She invited questions pledging to answer then "honestly" and then neglected to answer them.. As in; Did she take part in an apartheid action affecting small children...what is a non political councillor...did she think she would ever be allowed to be a school governor again..did she think she would be a councillor again... her character all becomes pertinent when you realise she continually offered support for the Ukip on these threads while leafleting for the Tories...Getting the picture..as in both parties are the same face on the coin? "get the feeling you've been cheated" ?[/p][/quote]I saw that. I'm also going to complain about it too. That woman if you want to call her that, stirs the pot and then when questioned, flees and gets the threads closed down. What a coward she is. Gandy is a complete and utter basket case and needs to be sectioned. It is also disturbing to think that she was a school governor, around kids with that constant extreme right wing diatribe. Frightening that she is allowed to walk the streets. Happy Chickie
  • Score: 3

2:03pm Thu 29 May 14

andy:) says...

ROBOTS' REBELLION wrote:
Southend-on-Sea has the 8th densest population in England, outside of London. I want less density of population in my town, not more. Solution - control immigration nationally and therefore locally.
And do you propose killing new born babies too ?. Population will naturelly grow, thats what it does.
[quote][p][bold]ROBOTS' REBELLION[/bold] wrote: Southend-on-Sea has the 8th densest population in England, outside of London. I want less density of population in my town, not more. Solution - control immigration nationally and therefore locally.[/p][/quote]And do you propose killing new born babies too ?. Population will naturelly grow, thats what it does. andy:)
  • Score: 1

3:56pm Thu 29 May 14

profondo asbo says...

andy:) wrote:
ROBOTS' REBELLION wrote:
Southend-on-Sea has the 8th densest population in England, outside of London. I want less density of population in my town, not more. Solution - control immigration nationally and therefore locally.
And do you propose killing new born babies too ?. Population will naturelly grow, thats what it does.
incorrect. the population is falling in japan and they have no immigration
[quote][p][bold]andy:)[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ROBOTS' REBELLION[/bold] wrote: Southend-on-Sea has the 8th densest population in England, outside of London. I want less density of population in my town, not more. Solution - control immigration nationally and therefore locally.[/p][/quote]And do you propose killing new born babies too ?. Population will naturelly grow, thats what it does.[/p][/quote]incorrect. the population is falling in japan and they have no immigration profondo asbo
  • Score: -2

4:44pm Thu 29 May 14

Alekhine says...

profondo asbo wrote:
andy:) wrote:
ROBOTS' REBELLION wrote: Southend-on-Sea has the 8th densest population in England, outside of London. I want less density of population in my town, not more. Solution - control immigration nationally and therefore locally.
And do you propose killing new born babies too ?. Population will naturelly grow, thats what it does.
incorrect. the population is falling in japan and they have no immigration
The population is falling in Greece, Bosnia, Hungary, Portugal, Lithuania and Latvia, and they do have immingration.
[quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andy:)[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ROBOTS' REBELLION[/bold] wrote: Southend-on-Sea has the 8th densest population in England, outside of London. I want less density of population in my town, not more. Solution - control immigration nationally and therefore locally.[/p][/quote]And do you propose killing new born babies too ?. Population will naturelly grow, thats what it does.[/p][/quote]incorrect. the population is falling in japan and they have no immigration[/p][/quote]The population is falling in Greece, Bosnia, Hungary, Portugal, Lithuania and Latvia, and they do have immingration. Alekhine
  • Score: -1

8:30pm Thu 29 May 14

ThisYear says...

profondo asbo wrote:
andy:) wrote:
ROBOTS' REBELLION wrote:
Southend-on-Sea has the 8th densest population in England, outside of London. I want less density of population in my town, not more. Solution - control immigration nationally and therefore locally.
And do you propose killing new born babies too ?. Population will naturelly grow, thats what it does.
incorrect. the population is falling in japan and they have no immigration
Looks like they will have to consider it at some stage.. unless they want to become extinct!
[quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andy:)[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ROBOTS' REBELLION[/bold] wrote: Southend-on-Sea has the 8th densest population in England, outside of London. I want less density of population in my town, not more. Solution - control immigration nationally and therefore locally.[/p][/quote]And do you propose killing new born babies too ?. Population will naturelly grow, thats what it does.[/p][/quote]incorrect. the population is falling in japan and they have no immigration[/p][/quote]Looks like they will have to consider it at some stage.. unless they want to become extinct! ThisYear
  • Score: 0

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