Southend landlady had to tell council to stop paying benefits to family living rent free in her property

Council paid housing benefits to

Council paid housing benefits to "squatters"

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SOUTHEND Council paid housing benefit to a family allegedly living in a house illegally and not paying rent.

The benefits department claimed it was right to pay the handouts directly to the family, even though they are said to have no tenancy agreement for the three-bedroom property in Pleasant Road, Southend.

Landlady Rita Patel, 45, who is trying to evict the family, said she had lost about £7,200 in unpaid rent and legal fees.

Romuald Usowicz is living in the home with his extended family after he took on the property from his estranged wife Teresa Usowicz, who was evicted in the autumn.

Mrs Patel: “It is a nightmare.

They have no tenancy agreement.

Southend Standard:

Rent free: The house in Pleasant Road

Southend Standard:

Evicted: Teresa Usowicz

“I am trying to get them out through the court and the council goes and starts paying housing benefit to them when they are not even paying me rent.’’ The family are believed to have received £1,360 in housing benefit over two months before the council stopped the payments.

Mrs Patel said she hoped the family would be evicted soon.

She added: “With lost rent and legal costs, I am now seriously out of pocket.”

Joe Chesterton, the council’s head of finance and resources, said: “We cannot comment on individual cases because the parties have a right to confidentiality.

Southend Standard:

Eyesore: Junk and metal in garden

Southend Standard:

Southend Standard:

What a mess: Rita Patel surveys property during a visit

“However, the council takes every reasonable step to ensure housing benefit is lawfully paid, and in this case, we are satisfied it has been. The relevant law enables us to recover any housing benefit where it ought not to have been paid, or where there has been fraud. The council investigates instances of fraud, which can result in prosecution.

“Although it is good practice to have a written tenancy agreement, there can be informal arrangements, say in a case where a partner remains in the property and the original tenant leaves.

“If the landlord accepts the housing benefit payments, then these can be paid, even if the tenant has no formal tenancy agreement."

The Echo spoke toMr Usowicz through his daughter, as he said his English was poor.

Southend Standard:

Clean: bedroom before 

Southend Standard:

Squalid: Same room after occupation

Southend Standard:

Broken: damaged kitchen drawer

He said: “We were paying the rent, but it was stopped because she (Mrs Patel) would not deal with problems like mice and a gas leak.

“She said she could not do anything. We have tried to pay the rent again, but she does not want it because she just wants us out. We have nowhere else to stay and the council is not helping us yet.”

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7:39am Wed 2 Apr 14

Happy Chickie says...

Some people just live like pigs.
Some people just live like pigs. Happy Chickie
  • Score: 31

8:01am Wed 2 Apr 14

bazza 1 says...

Immigration is a great benefit to this country, and this story proves it. Now I can see where NIck Clegg and Co are coming from. What a bloody joke. They squat, AND get paid to do it with OUR tax money. You could not make it up.
Immigration is a great benefit to this country, and this story proves it. Now I can see where NIck Clegg and Co are coming from. What a bloody joke. They squat, AND get paid to do it with OUR tax money. You could not make it up. bazza 1
  • Score: 70

8:06am Wed 2 Apr 14

white_van_ man says...

Instead of paying rent save the money and move don't excepted every one to help you help yourself get out of your sty and do something instead of whining and moaning. The council won't help you now not now they've seen the state of the property on this website.

Good luck mrs Patel getting these parasites out
Instead of paying rent save the money and move don't excepted every one to help you help yourself get out of your sty and do something instead of whining and moaning. The council won't help you now not now they've seen the state of the property on this website. Good luck mrs Patel getting these parasites out white_van_ man
  • Score: 40

8:10am Wed 2 Apr 14

carnmountyouknowitmakessense says...

white_van_ man wrote:
Instead of paying rent save the money and move don't excepted every one to help you help yourself get out of your sty and do something instead of whining and moaning. The council won't help you now not now they've seen the state of the property on this website.

Good luck mrs Patel getting these parasites out
Funny, I thought Patel was the parasite here, living off the misery of others, glad to see she got caned this time round...
[quote][p][bold]white_van_ man[/bold] wrote: Instead of paying rent save the money and move don't excepted every one to help you help yourself get out of your sty and do something instead of whining and moaning. The council won't help you now not now they've seen the state of the property on this website. Good luck mrs Patel getting these parasites out[/p][/quote]Funny, I thought Patel was the parasite here, living off the misery of others, glad to see she got caned this time round... carnmountyouknowitmakessense
  • Score: -39

8:37am Wed 2 Apr 14

profondo asbo says...

brat can you spare an urgent eu exit?
brat can you spare an urgent eu exit? profondo asbo
  • Score: 1

9:14am Wed 2 Apr 14

Thorp55 says...

If th tenant has poor English and is squatting, he will probably not get a job,I was under the impression that to come to the uk you had to have a job or be actively looking?thanks to the eu we will have more and more people like this coming to the uk who do not contribute but take from the system?not just in benefits , but the children use schools! they all use the nhs and other social services! which are not really free as we all pay for them with taxes. These families have paid nothing but just milk the system. This country will be bankrupt one day, then perhaps the money grabbers will go home.
If th tenant has poor English and is squatting, he will probably not get a job,I was under the impression that to come to the uk you had to have a job or be actively looking?thanks to the eu we will have more and more people like this coming to the uk who do not contribute but take from the system?not just in benefits , but the children use schools! they all use the nhs and other social services! which are not really free as we all pay for them with taxes. These families have paid nothing but just milk the system. This country will be bankrupt one day, then perhaps the money grabbers will go home. Thorp55
  • Score: 48

9:19am Wed 2 Apr 14

profondo asbo says...

Thorp55 wrote:
If th tenant has poor English and is squatting, he will probably not get a job,I was under the impression that to come to the uk you had to have a job or be actively looking?thanks to the eu we will have more and more people like this coming to the uk who do not contribute but take from the system?not just in benefits , but the children use schools! they all use the nhs and other social services! which are not really free as we all pay for them with taxes. These families have paid nothing but just milk the system. This country will be bankrupt one day, then perhaps the money grabbers will go home.
nope they'll just find some other way to suck us dry
[quote][p][bold]Thorp55[/bold] wrote: If th tenant has poor English and is squatting, he will probably not get a job,I was under the impression that to come to the uk you had to have a job or be actively looking?thanks to the eu we will have more and more people like this coming to the uk who do not contribute but take from the system?not just in benefits , but the children use schools! they all use the nhs and other social services! which are not really free as we all pay for them with taxes. These families have paid nothing but just milk the system. This country will be bankrupt one day, then perhaps the money grabbers will go home.[/p][/quote]nope they'll just find some other way to suck us dry profondo asbo
  • Score: 30

9:38am Wed 2 Apr 14

DogsMessInLeigh says...

carnmountyouknowitma
kessense
wrote:
white_van_ man wrote:
Instead of paying rent save the money and move don't excepted every one to help you help yourself get out of your sty and do something instead of whining and moaning. The council won't help you now not now they've seen the state of the property on this website.

Good luck mrs Patel getting these parasites out
Funny, I thought Patel was the parasite here, living off the misery of others, glad to see she got caned this time round...
Maybe Mrs P didn't use a letting agent and it was done privately to save on agents fees, to which she is regretting now.
[quote][p][bold]carnmountyouknowitma kessense[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]white_van_ man[/bold] wrote: Instead of paying rent save the money and move don't excepted every one to help you help yourself get out of your sty and do something instead of whining and moaning. The council won't help you now not now they've seen the state of the property on this website. Good luck mrs Patel getting these parasites out[/p][/quote]Funny, I thought Patel was the parasite here, living off the misery of others, glad to see she got caned this time round...[/p][/quote]Maybe Mrs P didn't use a letting agent and it was done privately to save on agents fees, to which she is regretting now. DogsMessInLeigh
  • Score: 8

9:42am Wed 2 Apr 14

InTheKnowOk says...

I've heard it all now ...
I've heard it all now ... InTheKnowOk
  • Score: 10

9:44am Wed 2 Apr 14

pembury53 says...

Patel v Usowicz ....... good to see our legal system embracing a bit of cultural diversity
Patel v Usowicz ....... good to see our legal system embracing a bit of cultural diversity pembury53
  • Score: 23

10:07am Wed 2 Apr 14

Richy don't shine shoes no more says...

The level of housing benefit should at least be relative to the cost to Mrs Patel, otherwise the poster above is correct about the landlord exploiting the system and profiteering on the misery of others.

Thems the breaks I guess. Play with matches and you get burnt
The level of housing benefit should at least be relative to the cost to Mrs Patel, otherwise the poster above is correct about the landlord exploiting the system and profiteering on the misery of others. Thems the breaks I guess. Play with matches and you get burnt Richy don't shine shoes no more
  • Score: 4

10:08am Wed 2 Apr 14

whateverhappened says...

when will jayman pipe up to tell us about poor vunreable tennants living in squalid conditions and rouge landlords ... the before and after pictures and the garden tell a story of what a lot of landlords have to put up with daily. good luck mrs patel
when will jayman pipe up to tell us about poor vunreable tennants living in squalid conditions and rouge landlords ... the before and after pictures and the garden tell a story of what a lot of landlords have to put up with daily. good luck mrs patel whateverhappened
  • Score: 27

10:22am Wed 2 Apr 14

pembury53 says...

carnmountyouknowitma
kessense
wrote:
white_van_ man wrote: Instead of paying rent save the money and move don't excepted every one to help you help yourself get out of your sty and do something instead of whining and moaning. The council won't help you now not now they've seen the state of the property on this website. Good luck mrs Patel getting these parasites out
Funny, I thought Patel was the parasite here, living off the misery of others, glad to see she got caned this time round...
in this particular case i would class them all as parasites, but you are right, 'buy to letters' are the scourge of modern britain, using inequality to cash in and deny many a chance of a home and a future, driving house prices higher, and thereby into the hands of more buy to lets, a spiral of decline with a catastrophic ending in a few yeras from now, when millions retire with no way to pay..... the idea of a 'property portfolio', to fuel greed, needs consigning to history, and quickly.....
[quote][p][bold]carnmountyouknowitma kessense[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]white_van_ man[/bold] wrote: Instead of paying rent save the money and move don't excepted every one to help you help yourself get out of your sty and do something instead of whining and moaning. The council won't help you now not now they've seen the state of the property on this website. Good luck mrs Patel getting these parasites out[/p][/quote]Funny, I thought Patel was the parasite here, living off the misery of others, glad to see she got caned this time round...[/p][/quote]in this particular case i would class them all as parasites, but you are right, 'buy to letters' are the scourge of modern britain, using inequality to cash in and deny many a chance of a home and a future, driving house prices higher, and thereby into the hands of more buy to lets, a spiral of decline with a catastrophic ending in a few yeras from now, when millions retire with no way to pay..... the idea of a 'property portfolio', to fuel greed, needs consigning to history, and quickly..... pembury53
  • Score: 9

10:29am Wed 2 Apr 14

yagetme says...

Thorp55 wrote:
If th tenant has poor English and is squatting, he will probably not get a job,I was under the impression that to come to the uk you had to have a job or be actively looking?thanks to the eu we will have more and more people like this coming to the uk who do not contribute but take from the system?not just in benefits , but the children use schools! they all use the nhs and other social services! which are not really free as we all pay for them with taxes. These families have paid nothing but just milk the system. This country will be bankrupt one day, then perhaps the money grabbers will go home.
Where does it say the tenant has no job?

Be honest you haven't read past 'foreigners' 'squatting' and 'handouts'.

Not your fault as simple minds are programmed with simple things. That way you blame those at the bottom while those at the top laugh and keep filling their coffers with your lovely taxes.
[quote][p][bold]Thorp55[/bold] wrote: If th tenant has poor English and is squatting, he will probably not get a job,I was under the impression that to come to the uk you had to have a job or be actively looking?thanks to the eu we will have more and more people like this coming to the uk who do not contribute but take from the system?not just in benefits , but the children use schools! they all use the nhs and other social services! which are not really free as we all pay for them with taxes. These families have paid nothing but just milk the system. This country will be bankrupt one day, then perhaps the money grabbers will go home.[/p][/quote]Where does it say the tenant has no job? Be honest you haven't read past 'foreigners' 'squatting' and 'handouts'. Not your fault as simple minds are programmed with simple things. That way you blame those at the bottom while those at the top laugh and keep filling their coffers with your lovely taxes. yagetme
  • Score: -21

10:29am Wed 2 Apr 14

yagetme says...

carnmountyouknowitma
kessense
wrote:
white_van_ man wrote:
Instead of paying rent save the money and move don't excepted every one to help you help yourself get out of your sty and do something instead of whining and moaning. The council won't help you now not now they've seen the state of the property on this website.

Good luck mrs Patel getting these parasites out
Funny, I thought Patel was the parasite here, living off the misery of others, glad to see she got caned this time round...
Spot on!
[quote][p][bold]carnmountyouknowitma kessense[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]white_van_ man[/bold] wrote: Instead of paying rent save the money and move don't excepted every one to help you help yourself get out of your sty and do something instead of whining and moaning. The council won't help you now not now they've seen the state of the property on this website. Good luck mrs Patel getting these parasites out[/p][/quote]Funny, I thought Patel was the parasite here, living off the misery of others, glad to see she got caned this time round...[/p][/quote]Spot on! yagetme
  • Score: -16

10:31am Wed 2 Apr 14

Robin Reliant says...

pembury53 wrote:
carnmountyouknowitma

kessense
wrote:
white_van_ man wrote: Instead of paying rent save the money and move don't excepted every one to help you help yourself get out of your sty and do something instead of whining and moaning. The council won't help you now not now they've seen the state of the property on this website. Good luck mrs Patel getting these parasites out
Funny, I thought Patel was the parasite here, living off the misery of others, glad to see she got caned this time round...
in this particular case i would class them all as parasites, but you are right, 'buy to letters' are the scourge of modern britain, using inequality to cash in and deny many a chance of a home and a future, driving house prices higher, and thereby into the hands of more buy to lets, a spiral of decline with a catastrophic ending in a few yeras from now, when millions retire with no way to pay..... the idea of a 'property portfolio', to fuel greed, needs consigning to history, and quickly.....
yes greedy people and smarmy agents too I guess it goes with the territory when you buy to let.
[quote][p][bold]pembury53[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]carnmountyouknowitma kessense[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]white_van_ man[/bold] wrote: Instead of paying rent save the money and move don't excepted every one to help you help yourself get out of your sty and do something instead of whining and moaning. The council won't help you now not now they've seen the state of the property on this website. Good luck mrs Patel getting these parasites out[/p][/quote]Funny, I thought Patel was the parasite here, living off the misery of others, glad to see she got caned this time round...[/p][/quote]in this particular case i would class them all as parasites, but you are right, 'buy to letters' are the scourge of modern britain, using inequality to cash in and deny many a chance of a home and a future, driving house prices higher, and thereby into the hands of more buy to lets, a spiral of decline with a catastrophic ending in a few yeras from now, when millions retire with no way to pay..... the idea of a 'property portfolio', to fuel greed, needs consigning to history, and quickly.....[/p][/quote]yes greedy people and smarmy agents too I guess it goes with the territory when you buy to let. Robin Reliant
  • Score: 1

11:13am Wed 2 Apr 14

pembury53 says...

yagetme wrote:
Thorp55 wrote: If th tenant has poor English and is squatting, he will probably not get a job,I was under the impression that to come to the uk you had to have a job or be actively looking?thanks to the eu we will have more and more people like this coming to the uk who do not contribute but take from the system?not just in benefits , but the children use schools! they all use the nhs and other social services! which are not really free as we all pay for them with taxes. These families have paid nothing but just milk the system. This country will be bankrupt one day, then perhaps the money grabbers will go home.
Where does it say the tenant has no job? Be honest you haven't read past 'foreigners' 'squatting' and 'handouts'. Not your fault as simple minds are programmed with simple things. That way you blame those at the bottom while those at the top laugh and keep filling their coffers with your lovely taxes.
I would say those that can't get past 'they put in more than they take' 'a benefit to our nation' 'not a burden on resources' are the programmed simpletons..... however, the fact that those at the top are cashing in and mostly to blame, is certainly not in doubt.....
[quote][p][bold]yagetme[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thorp55[/bold] wrote: If th tenant has poor English and is squatting, he will probably not get a job,I was under the impression that to come to the uk you had to have a job or be actively looking?thanks to the eu we will have more and more people like this coming to the uk who do not contribute but take from the system?not just in benefits , but the children use schools! they all use the nhs and other social services! which are not really free as we all pay for them with taxes. These families have paid nothing but just milk the system. This country will be bankrupt one day, then perhaps the money grabbers will go home.[/p][/quote]Where does it say the tenant has no job? Be honest you haven't read past 'foreigners' 'squatting' and 'handouts'. Not your fault as simple minds are programmed with simple things. That way you blame those at the bottom while those at the top laugh and keep filling their coffers with your lovely taxes.[/p][/quote]I would say those that can't get past 'they put in more than they take' 'a benefit to our nation' 'not a burden on resources' are the programmed simpletons..... however, the fact that those at the top are cashing in and mostly to blame, is certainly not in doubt..... pembury53
  • Score: 11

11:23am Wed 2 Apr 14

Mike29 says...

Not all Landlords are bad and not all tenants are good. Tenants seem to get permission to do whatever they want and get away with it. I'm a tenant but I know what it can be like having to put up with problem tenants!
Not all Landlords are bad and not all tenants are good. Tenants seem to get permission to do whatever they want and get away with it. I'm a tenant but I know what it can be like having to put up with problem tenants! Mike29
  • Score: 23

12:21pm Wed 2 Apr 14

Mike29 says...

I'm glad I can rent a place as I can't afford my own place at the moment and I'm a person that likes to pay his way in life unlike the tenants that like to get things for free or make the landlords life hell. You can get a letting agent but you have to be able to trust that they will do their job. I wish my dad never got involved in property as he might still be around today had he not have to put up with the hell he went through!
I'm glad I can rent a place as I can't afford my own place at the moment and I'm a person that likes to pay his way in life unlike the tenants that like to get things for free or make the landlords life hell. You can get a letting agent but you have to be able to trust that they will do their job. I wish my dad never got involved in property as he might still be around today had he not have to put up with the hell he went through! Mike29
  • Score: 13

12:31pm Wed 2 Apr 14

LinfordsLunchbox says...

pembury53 wrote:
yagetme wrote:
Thorp55 wrote: If th tenant has poor English and is squatting, he will probably not get a job,I was under the impression that to come to the uk you had to have a job or be actively looking?thanks to the eu we will have more and more people like this coming to the uk who do not contribute but take from the system?not just in benefits , but the children use schools! they all use the nhs and other social services! which are not really free as we all pay for them with taxes. These families have paid nothing but just milk the system. This country will be bankrupt one day, then perhaps the money grabbers will go home.
Where does it say the tenant has no job? Be honest you haven't read past 'foreigners' 'squatting' and 'handouts'. Not your fault as simple minds are programmed with simple things. That way you blame those at the bottom while those at the top laugh and keep filling their coffers with your lovely taxes.
I would say those that can't get past 'they put in more than they take' 'a benefit to our nation' 'not a burden on resources' are the programmed simpletons..... however, the fact that those at the top are cashing in and mostly to blame, is certainly not in doubt.....
Out-dated tosh that was debunked almost as soon as it was claimed.

"thanks to tax credits,
housing benefit and other
handouts, a migrant earning just
the minimum wage can expect to
receive more than £28,000
annually if he has a partner and
two children – two-thirds of
which is a subsidy from the State." why do people keep trying to justify mass immigration with economic figures? This is supposed to be a democracy, if 70-80% of people say there's been too much, then there's been too much! What about the social costs? Housing? Nhs? Schools?
[quote][p][bold]pembury53[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yagetme[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thorp55[/bold] wrote: If th tenant has poor English and is squatting, he will probably not get a job,I was under the impression that to come to the uk you had to have a job or be actively looking?thanks to the eu we will have more and more people like this coming to the uk who do not contribute but take from the system?not just in benefits , but the children use schools! they all use the nhs and other social services! which are not really free as we all pay for them with taxes. These families have paid nothing but just milk the system. This country will be bankrupt one day, then perhaps the money grabbers will go home.[/p][/quote]Where does it say the tenant has no job? Be honest you haven't read past 'foreigners' 'squatting' and 'handouts'. Not your fault as simple minds are programmed with simple things. That way you blame those at the bottom while those at the top laugh and keep filling their coffers with your lovely taxes.[/p][/quote]I would say those that can't get past 'they put in more than they take' 'a benefit to our nation' 'not a burden on resources' are the programmed simpletons..... however, the fact that those at the top are cashing in and mostly to blame, is certainly not in doubt.....[/p][/quote]Out-dated tosh that was debunked almost as soon as it was claimed. "thanks to tax credits, housing benefit and other handouts, a migrant earning just the minimum wage can expect to receive more than £28,000 annually if he has a partner and two children – two-thirds of which is a subsidy from the State." why do people keep trying to justify mass immigration with economic figures? This is supposed to be a democracy, if 70-80% of people say there's been too much, then there's been too much! What about the social costs? Housing? Nhs? Schools? LinfordsLunchbox
  • Score: 21

12:57pm Wed 2 Apr 14

profondo asbo says...

yagetme wrote:
Thorp55 wrote:
If th tenant has poor English and is squatting, he will probably not get a job,I was under the impression that to come to the uk you had to have a job or be actively looking?thanks to the eu we will have more and more people like this coming to the uk who do not contribute but take from the system?not just in benefits , but the children use schools! they all use the nhs and other social services! which are not really free as we all pay for them with taxes. These families have paid nothing but just milk the system. This country will be bankrupt one day, then perhaps the money grabbers will go home.
Where does it say the tenant has no job?

Be honest you haven't read past 'foreigners' 'squatting' and 'handouts'.

Not your fault as simple minds are programmed with simple things. That way you blame those at the bottom while those at the top laugh and keep filling their coffers with your lovely taxes.
yeah you're right. he's obviously running a scrap metal business from his back garden. do you think he's declaring all his earnings from the business?
[quote][p][bold]yagetme[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thorp55[/bold] wrote: If th tenant has poor English and is squatting, he will probably not get a job,I was under the impression that to come to the uk you had to have a job or be actively looking?thanks to the eu we will have more and more people like this coming to the uk who do not contribute but take from the system?not just in benefits , but the children use schools! they all use the nhs and other social services! which are not really free as we all pay for them with taxes. These families have paid nothing but just milk the system. This country will be bankrupt one day, then perhaps the money grabbers will go home.[/p][/quote]Where does it say the tenant has no job? Be honest you haven't read past 'foreigners' 'squatting' and 'handouts'. Not your fault as simple minds are programmed with simple things. That way you blame those at the bottom while those at the top laugh and keep filling their coffers with your lovely taxes.[/p][/quote]yeah you're right. he's obviously running a scrap metal business from his back garden. do you think he's declaring all his earnings from the business? profondo asbo
  • Score: 15

1:08pm Wed 2 Apr 14

whateverhappened says...

yagetme wrote:
Thorp55 wrote: If th tenant has poor English and is squatting, he will probably not get a job,I was under the impression that to come to the uk you had to have a job or be actively looking?thanks to the eu we will have more and more people like this coming to the uk who do not contribute but take from the system?not just in benefits , but the children use schools! they all use the nhs and other social services! which are not really free as we all pay for them with taxes. These families have paid nothing but just milk the system. This country will be bankrupt one day, then perhaps the money grabbers will go home.
Where does it say the tenant has no job? Be honest you haven't read past 'foreigners' 'squatting' and 'handouts'. Not your fault as simple minds are programmed with simple things. That way you blame those at the bottom while those at the top laugh and keep filling their coffers with your lovely taxes.
Not sure there is any more to the story
[quote][p][bold]yagetme[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thorp55[/bold] wrote: If th tenant has poor English and is squatting, he will probably not get a job,I was under the impression that to come to the uk you had to have a job or be actively looking?thanks to the eu we will have more and more people like this coming to the uk who do not contribute but take from the system?not just in benefits , but the children use schools! they all use the nhs and other social services! which are not really free as we all pay for them with taxes. These families have paid nothing but just milk the system. This country will be bankrupt one day, then perhaps the money grabbers will go home.[/p][/quote]Where does it say the tenant has no job? Be honest you haven't read past 'foreigners' 'squatting' and 'handouts'. Not your fault as simple minds are programmed with simple things. That way you blame those at the bottom while those at the top laugh and keep filling their coffers with your lovely taxes.[/p][/quote]Not sure there is any more to the story whateverhappened
  • Score: 3

2:09pm Wed 2 Apr 14

Realworld says...

Perhaps a change in the law so oxgen stealing lazy scumbags like this get immediate eviction and a free ride "home"..... Pipe dreams eh?
Perhaps a change in the law so oxgen stealing lazy scumbags like this get immediate eviction and a free ride "home"..... Pipe dreams eh? Realworld
  • Score: 16

2:20pm Wed 2 Apr 14

MilesBond says...

Realworld wrote:
Perhaps a change in the law so oxgen stealing lazy scumbags like this get immediate eviction and a free ride "home"..... Pipe dreams eh?
There's no need to talk about Mrs Patel like that!
[quote][p][bold]Realworld[/bold] wrote: Perhaps a change in the law so oxgen stealing lazy scumbags like this get immediate eviction and a free ride "home"..... Pipe dreams eh?[/p][/quote]There's no need to talk about Mrs Patel like that! MilesBond
  • Score: -3

3:40pm Wed 2 Apr 14

Kim Gandy says...

yagetme wrote:
Thorp55 wrote:
If th tenant has poor English and is squatting, he will probably not get a job,I was under the impression that to come to the uk you had to have a job or be actively looking?thanks to the eu we will have more and more people like this coming to the uk who do not contribute but take from the system?not just in benefits , but the children use schools! they all use the nhs and other social services! which are not really free as we all pay for them with taxes. These families have paid nothing but just milk the system. This country will be bankrupt one day, then perhaps the money grabbers will go home.
Where does it say the tenant has no job?

Be honest you haven't read past 'foreigners' 'squatting' and 'handouts'.

Not your fault as simple minds are programmed with simple things. That way you blame those at the bottom while those at the top laugh and keep filling their coffers with your lovely taxes.
Is this you Lastlaugh AKA ThisYear and now this new one.

Pack it in, We've heard it all before.
[quote][p][bold]yagetme[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thorp55[/bold] wrote: If th tenant has poor English and is squatting, he will probably not get a job,I was under the impression that to come to the uk you had to have a job or be actively looking?thanks to the eu we will have more and more people like this coming to the uk who do not contribute but take from the system?not just in benefits , but the children use schools! they all use the nhs and other social services! which are not really free as we all pay for them with taxes. These families have paid nothing but just milk the system. This country will be bankrupt one day, then perhaps the money grabbers will go home.[/p][/quote]Where does it say the tenant has no job? Be honest you haven't read past 'foreigners' 'squatting' and 'handouts'. Not your fault as simple minds are programmed with simple things. That way you blame those at the bottom while those at the top laugh and keep filling their coffers with your lovely taxes.[/p][/quote]Is this you Lastlaugh AKA ThisYear and now this new one. Pack it in, We've heard it all before. Kim Gandy
  • Score: 2

3:41pm Wed 2 Apr 14

Kim Gandy says...

Happy Chickie wrote:
Some people just live like pigs.
I agree.

Gonna down arrow that? Or start name calling?
[quote][p][bold]Happy Chickie[/bold] wrote: Some people just live like pigs.[/p][/quote]I agree. Gonna down arrow that? Or start name calling? Kim Gandy
  • Score: 1

3:42pm Wed 2 Apr 14

Kim Gandy says...

Realworld wrote:
Perhaps a change in the law so oxgen stealing lazy scumbags like this get immediate eviction and a free ride "home"..... Pipe dreams eh?
I agree with that as well.

Welcome to Labour's Multicultural Nightmare. A dream for them, a nightmare for the rest of us.

And an expensive one at that.
[quote][p][bold]Realworld[/bold] wrote: Perhaps a change in the law so oxgen stealing lazy scumbags like this get immediate eviction and a free ride "home"..... Pipe dreams eh?[/p][/quote]I agree with that as well. Welcome to Labour's Multicultural Nightmare. A dream for them, a nightmare for the rest of us. And an expensive one at that. Kim Gandy
  • Score: 8

4:10pm Wed 2 Apr 14

jolllyboy says...

That is why the old system of paying the landlord direct was best. It was done that way for a reason.
That is why the old system of paying the landlord direct was best. It was done that way for a reason. jolllyboy
  • Score: 15

4:37pm Wed 2 Apr 14

cg1blue says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
yagetme wrote:
Thorp55 wrote: If th tenant has poor English and is squatting, he will probably not get a job,I was under the impression that to come to the uk you had to have a job or be actively looking?thanks to the eu we will have more and more people like this coming to the uk who do not contribute but take from the system?not just in benefits , but the children use schools! they all use the nhs and other social services! which are not really free as we all pay for them with taxes. These families have paid nothing but just milk the system. This country will be bankrupt one day, then perhaps the money grabbers will go home.
Where does it say the tenant has no job? Be honest you haven't read past 'foreigners' 'squatting' and 'handouts'. Not your fault as simple minds are programmed with simple things. That way you blame those at the bottom while those at the top laugh and keep filling their coffers with your lovely taxes.
Is this you Lastlaugh AKA ThisYear and now this new one. Pack it in, We've heard it all before.
ThisYear, come out where we can see you, be brave, we won't bite!
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yagetme[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thorp55[/bold] wrote: If th tenant has poor English and is squatting, he will probably not get a job,I was under the impression that to come to the uk you had to have a job or be actively looking?thanks to the eu we will have more and more people like this coming to the uk who do not contribute but take from the system?not just in benefits , but the children use schools! they all use the nhs and other social services! which are not really free as we all pay for them with taxes. These families have paid nothing but just milk the system. This country will be bankrupt one day, then perhaps the money grabbers will go home.[/p][/quote]Where does it say the tenant has no job? Be honest you haven't read past 'foreigners' 'squatting' and 'handouts'. Not your fault as simple minds are programmed with simple things. That way you blame those at the bottom while those at the top laugh and keep filling their coffers with your lovely taxes.[/p][/quote]Is this you Lastlaugh AKA ThisYear and now this new one. Pack it in, We've heard it all before.[/p][/quote]ThisYear, come out where we can see you, be brave, we won't bite! cg1blue
  • Score: 8

4:44pm Wed 2 Apr 14

Lunabelly says...

All I'll say is that when I lived in Greece eighteen years ago, if I had asked for social housing or asked the council to pay my rent, I would have been laughed out of the shop. Why does anyone find it acceptable that people just move elsewhere and then freeload?
And don't get me started on buy-to-let parasites.
All I'll say is that when I lived in Greece eighteen years ago, if I had asked for social housing or asked the council to pay my rent, I would have been laughed out of the shop. Why does anyone find it acceptable that people just move elsewhere and then freeload? And don't get me started on buy-to-let parasites. Lunabelly
  • Score: 14

5:20pm Wed 2 Apr 14

Alekhine says...

cg1blue wrote:
Kim Gandy wrote:
yagetme wrote:
Thorp55 wrote: If th tenant has poor English and is squatting, he will probably not get a job,I was under the impression that to come to the uk you had to have a job or be actively looking?thanks to the eu we will have more and more people like this coming to the uk who do not contribute but take from the system?not just in benefits , but the children use schools! they all use the nhs and other social services! which are not really free as we all pay for them with taxes. These families have paid nothing but just milk the system. This country will be bankrupt one day, then perhaps the money grabbers will go home.
Where does it say the tenant has no job? Be honest you haven't read past 'foreigners' 'squatting' and 'handouts'. Not your fault as simple minds are programmed with simple things. That way you blame those at the bottom while those at the top laugh and keep filling their coffers with your lovely taxes.
Is this you Lastlaugh AKA ThisYear and now this new one. Pack it in, We've heard it all before.
ThisYear, come out where we can see you, be brave, we won't bite!
......much.
[quote][p][bold]cg1blue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yagetme[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thorp55[/bold] wrote: If th tenant has poor English and is squatting, he will probably not get a job,I was under the impression that to come to the uk you had to have a job or be actively looking?thanks to the eu we will have more and more people like this coming to the uk who do not contribute but take from the system?not just in benefits , but the children use schools! they all use the nhs and other social services! which are not really free as we all pay for them with taxes. These families have paid nothing but just milk the system. This country will be bankrupt one day, then perhaps the money grabbers will go home.[/p][/quote]Where does it say the tenant has no job? Be honest you haven't read past 'foreigners' 'squatting' and 'handouts'. Not your fault as simple minds are programmed with simple things. That way you blame those at the bottom while those at the top laugh and keep filling their coffers with your lovely taxes.[/p][/quote]Is this you Lastlaugh AKA ThisYear and now this new one. Pack it in, We've heard it all before.[/p][/quote]ThisYear, come out where we can see you, be brave, we won't bite![/p][/quote]......much. Alekhine
  • Score: 3

6:05pm Wed 2 Apr 14

the25man says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
Realworld wrote:
Perhaps a change in the law so oxgen stealing lazy scumbags like this get immediate eviction and a free ride "home"..... Pipe dreams eh?
I agree with that as well.

Welcome to Labour's Multicultural Nightmare. A dream for them, a nightmare for the rest of us.

And an expensive one at that.
Kim
Once again you point out Politics without realising it was Maggie that has created this problem Right to Buy no new Council Houses so relying on private sector to cram people into a house split into two flats.
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Realworld[/bold] wrote: Perhaps a change in the law so oxgen stealing lazy scumbags like this get immediate eviction and a free ride "home"..... Pipe dreams eh?[/p][/quote]I agree with that as well. Welcome to Labour's Multicultural Nightmare. A dream for them, a nightmare for the rest of us. And an expensive one at that.[/p][/quote]Kim Once again you point out Politics without realising it was Maggie that has created this problem Right to Buy no new Council Houses so relying on private sector to cram people into a house split into two flats. the25man
  • Score: 15

6:10pm Wed 2 Apr 14

the25man says...

The Council is not at fault for paying housing benefit to anybody entitled to it.
Its Mrs Patel's problem if the tenants are not paying her not the Council's
The Council is not at fault for paying housing benefit to anybody entitled to it. Its Mrs Patel's problem if the tenants are not paying her not the Council's the25man
  • Score: -15

6:43pm Wed 2 Apr 14

Sensible Man says...

Tony Blair and his Labour chums must be so proud of the dump this country has become. Unlimited immigration - cover every spot of green with shoeboxes - endless child benefit - a joke of a useless liberal justice system - how ENRICHED we are!!!

Would ANYONE now admit to voting Labour????

And - by the way - just how rich is the "Socialist" Mr. Blair now???
Tony Blair and his Labour chums must be so proud of the dump this country has become. Unlimited immigration - cover every spot of green with shoeboxes - endless child benefit - a joke of a useless liberal justice system - how ENRICHED we are!!! Would ANYONE now admit to voting Labour???? And - by the way - just how rich is the "Socialist" Mr. Blair now??? Sensible Man
  • Score: 9

7:37pm Wed 2 Apr 14

ThisYear says...

LinfordsLunchbox wrote:
pembury53 wrote:
yagetme wrote:
Thorp55 wrote: If th tenant has poor English and is squatting, he will probably not get a job,I was under the impression that to come to the uk you had to have a job or be actively looking?thanks to the eu we will have more and more people like this coming to the uk who do not contribute but take from the system?not just in benefits , but the children use schools! they all use the nhs and other social services! which are not really free as we all pay for them with taxes. These families have paid nothing but just milk the system. This country will be bankrupt one day, then perhaps the money grabbers will go home.
Where does it say the tenant has no job? Be honest you haven't read past 'foreigners' 'squatting' and 'handouts'. Not your fault as simple minds are programmed with simple things. That way you blame those at the bottom while those at the top laugh and keep filling their coffers with your lovely taxes.
I would say those that can't get past 'they put in more than they take' 'a benefit to our nation' 'not a burden on resources' are the programmed simpletons..... however, the fact that those at the top are cashing in and mostly to blame, is certainly not in doubt.....
Out-dated tosh that was debunked almost as soon as it was claimed.

"thanks to tax credits,
housing benefit and other
handouts, a migrant earning just
the minimum wage can expect to
receive more than £28,000
annually if he has a partner and
two children – two-thirds of
which is a subsidy from the State." why do people keep trying to justify mass immigration with economic figures? This is supposed to be a democracy, if 70-80% of people say there's been too much, then there's been too much! What about the social costs? Housing? Nhs? Schools?
" if 70-80% of people say there's been too much, then there's been too much! "

Have such a percentage said such?

Do the government, if they are even aware of this scale, have to act on it?


"This is supposed to be a democracy"

"supposed" is the operative word...haven't you caught on yet?
[quote][p][bold]LinfordsLunchbox[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pembury53[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yagetme[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thorp55[/bold] wrote: If th tenant has poor English and is squatting, he will probably not get a job,I was under the impression that to come to the uk you had to have a job or be actively looking?thanks to the eu we will have more and more people like this coming to the uk who do not contribute but take from the system?not just in benefits , but the children use schools! they all use the nhs and other social services! which are not really free as we all pay for them with taxes. These families have paid nothing but just milk the system. This country will be bankrupt one day, then perhaps the money grabbers will go home.[/p][/quote]Where does it say the tenant has no job? Be honest you haven't read past 'foreigners' 'squatting' and 'handouts'. Not your fault as simple minds are programmed with simple things. That way you blame those at the bottom while those at the top laugh and keep filling their coffers with your lovely taxes.[/p][/quote]I would say those that can't get past 'they put in more than they take' 'a benefit to our nation' 'not a burden on resources' are the programmed simpletons..... however, the fact that those at the top are cashing in and mostly to blame, is certainly not in doubt.....[/p][/quote]Out-dated tosh that was debunked almost as soon as it was claimed. "thanks to tax credits, housing benefit and other handouts, a migrant earning just the minimum wage can expect to receive more than £28,000 annually if he has a partner and two children – two-thirds of which is a subsidy from the State." why do people keep trying to justify mass immigration with economic figures? This is supposed to be a democracy, if 70-80% of people say there's been too much, then there's been too much! What about the social costs? Housing? Nhs? Schools?[/p][/quote]" if 70-80% of people say there's been too much, then there's been too much! " Have such a percentage said such? Do the government, if they are even aware of this scale, have to act on it? "This is supposed to be a democracy" "supposed" is the operative word...haven't you caught on yet? ThisYear
  • Score: -6

8:13pm Wed 2 Apr 14

ThisYear says...

Alekhine wrote:
cg1blue wrote:
Kim Gandy wrote:
yagetme wrote:
Thorp55 wrote: If th tenant has poor English and is squatting, he will probably not get a job,I was under the impression that to come to the uk you had to have a job or be actively looking?thanks to the eu we will have more and more people like this coming to the uk who do not contribute but take from the system?not just in benefits , but the children use schools! they all use the nhs and other social services! which are not really free as we all pay for them with taxes. These families have paid nothing but just milk the system. This country will be bankrupt one day, then perhaps the money grabbers will go home.
Where does it say the tenant has no job? Be honest you haven't read past 'foreigners' 'squatting' and 'handouts'. Not your fault as simple minds are programmed with simple things. That way you blame those at the bottom while those at the top laugh and keep filling their coffers with your lovely taxes.
Is this you Lastlaugh AKA ThisYear and now this new one. Pack it in, We've heard it all before.
ThisYear, come out where we can see you, be brave, we won't bite!
......much.
Oh dear...as if id be worried about a fogey like you...
[quote][p][bold]Alekhine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cg1blue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yagetme[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thorp55[/bold] wrote: If th tenant has poor English and is squatting, he will probably not get a job,I was under the impression that to come to the uk you had to have a job or be actively looking?thanks to the eu we will have more and more people like this coming to the uk who do not contribute but take from the system?not just in benefits , but the children use schools! they all use the nhs and other social services! which are not really free as we all pay for them with taxes. These families have paid nothing but just milk the system. This country will be bankrupt one day, then perhaps the money grabbers will go home.[/p][/quote]Where does it say the tenant has no job? Be honest you haven't read past 'foreigners' 'squatting' and 'handouts'. Not your fault as simple minds are programmed with simple things. That way you blame those at the bottom while those at the top laugh and keep filling their coffers with your lovely taxes.[/p][/quote]Is this you Lastlaugh AKA ThisYear and now this new one. Pack it in, We've heard it all before.[/p][/quote]ThisYear, come out where we can see you, be brave, we won't bite![/p][/quote]......much.[/p][/quote]Oh dear...as if id be worried about a fogey like you... ThisYear
  • Score: -5

8:14pm Wed 2 Apr 14

ThisYear says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
Happy Chickie wrote:
Some people just live like pigs.
I agree.

Gonna down arrow that? Or start name calling?
Kim looking for 'sisterhood' to surmount the ideology barriers!

Pathetic
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Happy Chickie[/bold] wrote: Some people just live like pigs.[/p][/quote]I agree. Gonna down arrow that? Or start name calling?[/p][/quote]Kim looking for 'sisterhood' to surmount the ideology barriers! Pathetic ThisYear
  • Score: -8

8:16pm Wed 2 Apr 14

ThisYear says...

cg1blue wrote:
Kim Gandy wrote:
yagetme wrote:
Thorp55 wrote: If th tenant has poor English and is squatting, he will probably not get a job,I was under the impression that to come to the uk you had to have a job or be actively looking?thanks to the eu we will have more and more people like this coming to the uk who do not contribute but take from the system?not just in benefits , but the children use schools! they all use the nhs and other social services! which are not really free as we all pay for them with taxes. These families have paid nothing but just milk the system. This country will be bankrupt one day, then perhaps the money grabbers will go home.
Where does it say the tenant has no job? Be honest you haven't read past 'foreigners' 'squatting' and 'handouts'. Not your fault as simple minds are programmed with simple things. That way you blame those at the bottom while those at the top laugh and keep filling their coffers with your lovely taxes.
Is this you Lastlaugh AKA ThisYear and now this new one. Pack it in, We've heard it all before.
ThisYear, come out where we can see you, be brave, we won't bite!
Someone posts a rather reasonable take on the matter and you submise its me...thank you for your confidence in me.
[quote][p][bold]cg1blue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yagetme[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thorp55[/bold] wrote: If th tenant has poor English and is squatting, he will probably not get a job,I was under the impression that to come to the uk you had to have a job or be actively looking?thanks to the eu we will have more and more people like this coming to the uk who do not contribute but take from the system?not just in benefits , but the children use schools! they all use the nhs and other social services! which are not really free as we all pay for them with taxes. These families have paid nothing but just milk the system. This country will be bankrupt one day, then perhaps the money grabbers will go home.[/p][/quote]Where does it say the tenant has no job? Be honest you haven't read past 'foreigners' 'squatting' and 'handouts'. Not your fault as simple minds are programmed with simple things. That way you blame those at the bottom while those at the top laugh and keep filling their coffers with your lovely taxes.[/p][/quote]Is this you Lastlaugh AKA ThisYear and now this new one. Pack it in, We've heard it all before.[/p][/quote]ThisYear, come out where we can see you, be brave, we won't bite![/p][/quote]Someone posts a rather reasonable take on the matter and you submise its me...thank you for your confidence in me. ThisYear
  • Score: -7

8:18pm Wed 2 Apr 14

ThisYear says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
Realworld wrote:
Perhaps a change in the law so oxgen stealing lazy scumbags like this get immediate eviction and a free ride "home"..... Pipe dreams eh?
I agree with that as well.

Welcome to Labour's Multicultural Nightmare. A dream for them, a nightmare for the rest of us.

And an expensive one at that.
Blanket over the head Gandy...are you suggesting the tories didn't allow immigration into the country or that they are opposed to it?

Do not the tories gain by immigration..ie cheap labour for their businesses.
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Realworld[/bold] wrote: Perhaps a change in the law so oxgen stealing lazy scumbags like this get immediate eviction and a free ride "home"..... Pipe dreams eh?[/p][/quote]I agree with that as well. Welcome to Labour's Multicultural Nightmare. A dream for them, a nightmare for the rest of us. And an expensive one at that.[/p][/quote]Blanket over the head Gandy...are you suggesting the tories didn't allow immigration into the country or that they are opposed to it? Do not the tories gain by immigration..ie cheap labour for their businesses. ThisYear
  • Score: -2

8:46pm Wed 2 Apr 14

Idontknowy says...

welcome to multi-cultural E ngland
welcome to multi-cultural E ngland Idontknowy
  • Score: 1

9:10pm Wed 2 Apr 14

tokyontroyzee says...

Dear southend council, I have a terrible stomach upset and have run out of toilet roll, could you please come and clean up after me.....and a donation would be verynice too!
Dear southend council, I have a terrible stomach upset and have run out of toilet roll, could you please come and clean up after me.....and a donation would be verynice too! tokyontroyzee
  • Score: 6

9:13pm Wed 2 Apr 14

bazza 1 says...

carnmountyouknowitma
kessense
wrote:
white_van_ man wrote:
Instead of paying rent save the money and move don't excepted every one to help you help yourself get out of your sty and do something instead of whining and moaning. The council won't help you now not now they've seen the state of the property on this website.

Good luck mrs Patel getting these parasites out
Funny, I thought Patel was the parasite here, living off the misery of others, glad to see she got caned this time round...
How do you come to that conclusion? How is she a parasite, for renting out a house, then getting no money from the tenant? Millions of people pay rent to private landlords. Not everyone rents from the local council.
[quote][p][bold]carnmountyouknowitma kessense[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]white_van_ man[/bold] wrote: Instead of paying rent save the money and move don't excepted every one to help you help yourself get out of your sty and do something instead of whining and moaning. The council won't help you now not now they've seen the state of the property on this website. Good luck mrs Patel getting these parasites out[/p][/quote]Funny, I thought Patel was the parasite here, living off the misery of others, glad to see she got caned this time round...[/p][/quote]How do you come to that conclusion? How is she a parasite, for renting out a house, then getting no money from the tenant? Millions of people pay rent to private landlords. Not everyone rents from the local council. bazza 1
  • Score: 7

7:22am Thu 3 Apr 14

DogsMessInLeigh says...

Romuald Usowicz is living in the home with his extended family after he took on the property from his estranged wife Teresa Usowicz, who was evicted in the autumn.

Mrs Patel: “It is a nightmare.

They have no tenancy agreement.
________________

so if she was evicted, how did he get in..? surely Mrs Patel was not silly enough to let another member of the problem family move back in, or stay in the property, an eviction is an eviction sounds like she never even changed the locks after the eviction.
Romuald Usowicz is living in the home with his extended family after he took on the property from his estranged wife Teresa Usowicz, who was evicted in the autumn. Mrs Patel: “It is a nightmare. They have no tenancy agreement. ________________ so if she was evicted, how did he get in..? surely Mrs Patel was not silly enough to let another member of the problem family move back in, or stay in the property, an eviction is an eviction sounds like she never even changed the locks after the eviction. DogsMessInLeigh
  • Score: 0

10:21am Thu 3 Apr 14

Kim Gandy says...

the25man wrote:
Kim Gandy wrote:
Realworld wrote:
Perhaps a change in the law so oxgen stealing lazy scumbags like this get immediate eviction and a free ride "home"..... Pipe dreams eh?
I agree with that as well.

Welcome to Labour's Multicultural Nightmare. A dream for them, a nightmare for the rest of us.

And an expensive one at that.
Kim
Once again you point out Politics without realising it was Maggie that has created this problem Right to Buy no new Council Houses so relying on private sector to cram people into a house split into two flats.
I never mentioned Maggie and I do know about that thankyou very much.

I was referring to the mass influx of immigrants, not right to buy.

That was my point. Something which, if you read my comments again, you will see.

You know I am not party political. Not any more.

But thanks for at least showing some manners when responding to my comment, something some other ignoramuses around here fail to do because they are ill brought up louts.

:D
[quote][p][bold]the25man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Realworld[/bold] wrote: Perhaps a change in the law so oxgen stealing lazy scumbags like this get immediate eviction and a free ride "home"..... Pipe dreams eh?[/p][/quote]I agree with that as well. Welcome to Labour's Multicultural Nightmare. A dream for them, a nightmare for the rest of us. And an expensive one at that.[/p][/quote]Kim Once again you point out Politics without realising it was Maggie that has created this problem Right to Buy no new Council Houses so relying on private sector to cram people into a house split into two flats.[/p][/quote]I never mentioned Maggie and I do know about that thankyou very much. I was referring to the mass influx of immigrants, not right to buy. That was my point. Something which, if you read my comments again, you will see. You know I am not party political. Not any more. But thanks for at least showing some manners when responding to my comment, something some other ignoramuses around here fail to do because they are ill brought up louts. :D Kim Gandy
  • Score: -1

10:24am Thu 3 Apr 14

Kim Gandy says...

Sensible Man wrote:
Tony Blair and his Labour chums must be so proud of the dump this country has become. Unlimited immigration - cover every spot of green with shoeboxes - endless child benefit - a joke of a useless liberal justice system - how ENRICHED we are!!!

Would ANYONE now admit to voting Labour????

And - by the way - just how rich is the "Socialist" Mr. Blair now???
I made a similar comment on the story about whether Basildon is a good place to live.

The entire comment section had to be removed because of some hysterical female and her ranting, name calling nastiness.

Whereas I make strong, valid points, she gets all hormonal. Obviously someone's recently dumped her because she has a weird obsession with me.

I make the same point as you've made above all the time and people are beginning to realise just how much Labour is responsible for even though they've not been in office for four years.

We have local and Euro elections coming up on May 22nd so people will have a chance to boot them out once and for all.

Still, they've got all their imported immigrant voters and the bent postal vote system to rely on. All the more reason for people who don't normally vote to get off their backsides and vote them into oblivion once and for all.
[quote][p][bold]Sensible Man[/bold] wrote: Tony Blair and his Labour chums must be so proud of the dump this country has become. Unlimited immigration - cover every spot of green with shoeboxes - endless child benefit - a joke of a useless liberal justice system - how ENRICHED we are!!! Would ANYONE now admit to voting Labour???? And - by the way - just how rich is the "Socialist" Mr. Blair now???[/p][/quote]I made a similar comment on the story about whether Basildon is a good place to live. The entire comment section had to be removed because of some hysterical female and her ranting, name calling nastiness. Whereas I make strong, valid points, she gets all hormonal. Obviously someone's recently dumped her because she has a weird obsession with me. I make the same point as you've made above all the time and people are beginning to realise just how much Labour is responsible for even though they've not been in office for four years. We have local and Euro elections coming up on May 22nd so people will have a chance to boot them out once and for all. Still, they've got all their imported immigrant voters and the bent postal vote system to rely on. All the more reason for people who don't normally vote to get off their backsides and vote them into oblivion once and for all. Kim Gandy
  • Score: -1

10:27am Thu 3 Apr 14

yagetme says...

DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
Romuald Usowicz is living in the home with his extended family after he took on the property from his estranged wife Teresa Usowicz, who was evicted in the autumn.

Mrs Patel: “It is a nightmare.

They have no tenancy agreement.
________________

so if she was evicted, how did he get in..? surely Mrs Patel was not silly enough to let another member of the problem family move back in, or stay in the property, an eviction is an eviction sounds like she never even changed the locks after the eviction.
Exactly, there is far more to this.

Also, withholding rent because of services not supplied is not (as per the headline) 'squatting' - and you cannot claim Housing Benefit without some form of written confirmation of tenancy from the Landlord to the Council (it doesn't have to be a drafted TA). Bad Landlords do this in order to circumvent certain responsibilities ( ie: not having to repair a gas leak or deal with a rodent infestation), a bad tenant could also use this to not clear up a messy garden.

I would also wager that Mrs Patel and Romuald Usowicz worked on a cash in hand verbal agreement basis which is going to make a court order for repossession very complicated and both parties have obviously dug their heels in - hence Mrs Patel contacting the Echo.

It's a non story and has been used to incite commentary (via trigger words) based on preconceived prejudices and ignorance.
[quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: Romuald Usowicz is living in the home with his extended family after he took on the property from his estranged wife Teresa Usowicz, who was evicted in the autumn. Mrs Patel: “It is a nightmare. They have no tenancy agreement. ________________ so if she was evicted, how did he get in..? surely Mrs Patel was not silly enough to let another member of the problem family move back in, or stay in the property, an eviction is an eviction sounds like she never even changed the locks after the eviction.[/p][/quote]Exactly, there is far more to this. Also, withholding rent because of services not supplied is not (as per the headline) 'squatting' - and you cannot claim Housing Benefit without some form of written confirmation of tenancy from the Landlord to the Council (it doesn't have to be a drafted TA). Bad Landlords do this in order to circumvent certain responsibilities ( ie: not having to repair a gas leak or deal with a rodent infestation), a bad tenant could also use this to not clear up a messy garden. I would also wager that Mrs Patel and Romuald Usowicz worked on a cash in hand verbal agreement basis which is going to make a court order for repossession very complicated and both parties have obviously dug their heels in - hence Mrs Patel contacting the Echo. It's a non story and has been used to incite commentary (via trigger words) based on preconceived prejudices and ignorance. yagetme
  • Score: -2

12:03pm Thu 3 Apr 14

thesouthchurchflyer says...

yagetme wrote:
DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
Romuald Usowicz is living in the home with his extended family after he took on the property from his estranged wife Teresa Usowicz, who was evicted in the autumn.

Mrs Patel: “It is a nightmare.

They have no tenancy agreement.
________________

so if she was evicted, how did he get in..? surely Mrs Patel was not silly enough to let another member of the problem family move back in, or stay in the property, an eviction is an eviction sounds like she never even changed the locks after the eviction.
Exactly, there is far more to this.

Also, withholding rent because of services not supplied is not (as per the headline) 'squatting' - and you cannot claim Housing Benefit without some form of written confirmation of tenancy from the Landlord to the Council (it doesn't have to be a drafted TA). Bad Landlords do this in order to circumvent certain responsibilities ( ie: not having to repair a gas leak or deal with a rodent infestation), a bad tenant could also use this to not clear up a messy garden.

I would also wager that Mrs Patel and Romuald Usowicz worked on a cash in hand verbal agreement basis which is going to make a court order for repossession very complicated and both parties have obviously dug their heels in - hence Mrs Patel contacting the Echo.

It's a non story and has been used to incite commentary (via trigger words) based on preconceived prejudices and ignorance.
He probably got in the same way that a lot of us landlords have suffered from in this insane system. You cannot boot the **** out! The wife holds the agreement, so you have to legally evict her. She leaves, he simply stays on, requiring a second eviction. She then re-appears has his tenant. You then have to start all over again with eviction.

Some of us have learnt by hard experience. Never rent to people from some EU countries and avoid Council tenants as much as possible. Over 12 years of renting my modest but nice properties in order to pay for my retirement and not live off the state, I have had tenants that have been great (private, usually working for banks etc) and scum (100% of which were Council). The Council ones get all the services, including advice on how to stay on when they fail to pay you the rent the Council give them. What a totally screwed up system. Glad to be selling up and leaving the UK.
[quote][p][bold]yagetme[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: Romuald Usowicz is living in the home with his extended family after he took on the property from his estranged wife Teresa Usowicz, who was evicted in the autumn. Mrs Patel: “It is a nightmare. They have no tenancy agreement. ________________ so if she was evicted, how did he get in..? surely Mrs Patel was not silly enough to let another member of the problem family move back in, or stay in the property, an eviction is an eviction sounds like she never even changed the locks after the eviction.[/p][/quote]Exactly, there is far more to this. Also, withholding rent because of services not supplied is not (as per the headline) 'squatting' - and you cannot claim Housing Benefit without some form of written confirmation of tenancy from the Landlord to the Council (it doesn't have to be a drafted TA). Bad Landlords do this in order to circumvent certain responsibilities ( ie: not having to repair a gas leak or deal with a rodent infestation), a bad tenant could also use this to not clear up a messy garden. I would also wager that Mrs Patel and Romuald Usowicz worked on a cash in hand verbal agreement basis which is going to make a court order for repossession very complicated and both parties have obviously dug their heels in - hence Mrs Patel contacting the Echo. It's a non story and has been used to incite commentary (via trigger words) based on preconceived prejudices and ignorance.[/p][/quote]He probably got in the same way that a lot of us landlords have suffered from in this insane system. You cannot boot the **** out! The wife holds the agreement, so you have to legally evict her. She leaves, he simply stays on, requiring a second eviction. She then re-appears has his tenant. You then have to start all over again with eviction. Some of us have learnt by hard experience. Never rent to people from some EU countries and avoid Council tenants as much as possible. Over 12 years of renting my modest but nice properties in order to pay for my retirement and not live off the state, I have had tenants that have been great (private, usually working for banks etc) and scum (100% of which were Council). The Council ones get all the services, including advice on how to stay on when they fail to pay you the rent the Council give them. What a totally screwed up system. Glad to be selling up and leaving the UK. thesouthchurchflyer
  • Score: 5

12:34pm Thu 3 Apr 14

cg1blue says...

yagetme wrote:
DogsMessInLeigh wrote: Romuald Usowicz is living in the home with his extended family after he took on the property from his estranged wife Teresa Usowicz, who was evicted in the autumn. Mrs Patel: “It is a nightmare. They have no tenancy agreement. ________________ so if she was evicted, how did he get in..? surely Mrs Patel was not silly enough to let another member of the problem family move back in, or stay in the property, an eviction is an eviction sounds like she never even changed the locks after the eviction.
Exactly, there is far more to this. Also, withholding rent because of services not supplied is not (as per the headline) 'squatting' - and you cannot claim Housing Benefit without some form of written confirmation of tenancy from the Landlord to the Council (it doesn't have to be a drafted TA). Bad Landlords do this in order to circumvent certain responsibilities ( ie: not having to repair a gas leak or deal with a rodent infestation), a bad tenant could also use this to not clear up a messy garden. I would also wager that Mrs Patel and Romuald Usowicz worked on a cash in hand verbal agreement basis which is going to make a court order for repossession very complicated and both parties have obviously dug their heels in - hence Mrs Patel contacting the Echo. It's a non story and has been used to incite commentary (via trigger words) based on preconceived prejudices and ignorance.
Looks like you're twisting the story through wild speculation just to paint the landlord as the baddie here....
None of us know the full story, and it's silly filling in the gaps to strengthen your support of Mr Usowicz
[quote][p][bold]yagetme[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: Romuald Usowicz is living in the home with his extended family after he took on the property from his estranged wife Teresa Usowicz, who was evicted in the autumn. Mrs Patel: “It is a nightmare. They have no tenancy agreement. ________________ so if she was evicted, how did he get in..? surely Mrs Patel was not silly enough to let another member of the problem family move back in, or stay in the property, an eviction is an eviction sounds like she never even changed the locks after the eviction.[/p][/quote]Exactly, there is far more to this. Also, withholding rent because of services not supplied is not (as per the headline) 'squatting' - and you cannot claim Housing Benefit without some form of written confirmation of tenancy from the Landlord to the Council (it doesn't have to be a drafted TA). Bad Landlords do this in order to circumvent certain responsibilities ( ie: not having to repair a gas leak or deal with a rodent infestation), a bad tenant could also use this to not clear up a messy garden. I would also wager that Mrs Patel and Romuald Usowicz worked on a cash in hand verbal agreement basis which is going to make a court order for repossession very complicated and both parties have obviously dug their heels in - hence Mrs Patel contacting the Echo. It's a non story and has been used to incite commentary (via trigger words) based on preconceived prejudices and ignorance.[/p][/quote]Looks like you're twisting the story through wild speculation just to paint the landlord as the baddie here.... None of us know the full story, and it's silly filling in the gaps to strengthen your support of Mr Usowicz cg1blue
  • Score: 0

12:38pm Thu 3 Apr 14

ThisYear says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
Sensible Man wrote:
Tony Blair and his Labour chums must be so proud of the dump this country has become. Unlimited immigration - cover every spot of green with shoeboxes - endless child benefit - a joke of a useless liberal justice system - how ENRICHED we are!!!

Would ANYONE now admit to voting Labour????

And - by the way - just how rich is the "Socialist" Mr. Blair now???
I made a similar comment on the story about whether Basildon is a good place to live.

The entire comment section had to be removed because of some hysterical female and her ranting, name calling nastiness.

Whereas I make strong, valid points, she gets all hormonal. Obviously someone's recently dumped her because she has a weird obsession with me.

I make the same point as you've made above all the time and people are beginning to realise just how much Labour is responsible for even though they've not been in office for four years.

We have local and Euro elections coming up on May 22nd so people will have a chance to boot them out once and for all.

Still, they've got all their imported immigrant voters and the bent postal vote system to rely on. All the more reason for people who don't normally vote to get off their backsides and vote them into oblivion once and for all.
"The entire comment section had to be removed because of some hysterical female and her ranting, name calling nastiness."

Was that female you?
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sensible Man[/bold] wrote: Tony Blair and his Labour chums must be so proud of the dump this country has become. Unlimited immigration - cover every spot of green with shoeboxes - endless child benefit - a joke of a useless liberal justice system - how ENRICHED we are!!! Would ANYONE now admit to voting Labour???? And - by the way - just how rich is the "Socialist" Mr. Blair now???[/p][/quote]I made a similar comment on the story about whether Basildon is a good place to live. The entire comment section had to be removed because of some hysterical female and her ranting, name calling nastiness. Whereas I make strong, valid points, she gets all hormonal. Obviously someone's recently dumped her because she has a weird obsession with me. I make the same point as you've made above all the time and people are beginning to realise just how much Labour is responsible for even though they've not been in office for four years. We have local and Euro elections coming up on May 22nd so people will have a chance to boot them out once and for all. Still, they've got all their imported immigrant voters and the bent postal vote system to rely on. All the more reason for people who don't normally vote to get off their backsides and vote them into oblivion once and for all.[/p][/quote]"The entire comment section had to be removed because of some hysterical female and her ranting, name calling nastiness." Was that female you? ThisYear
  • Score: -5

1:13pm Thu 3 Apr 14

Bigmama1 says...

This whole thing wouldn't happen if rent/housing benefit was paid straight to the owner of the property. The inland revenue would even know the truth about the renters income.
This whole thing wouldn't happen if rent/housing benefit was paid straight to the owner of the property. The inland revenue would even know the truth about the renters income. Bigmama1
  • Score: 3

6:00pm Thu 3 Apr 14

yagetme says...

cg1blue wrote:
yagetme wrote:
DogsMessInLeigh wrote: Romuald Usowicz is living in the home with his extended family after he took on the property from his estranged wife Teresa Usowicz, who was evicted in the autumn. Mrs Patel: “It is a nightmare. They have no tenancy agreement. ________________ so if she was evicted, how did he get in..? surely Mrs Patel was not silly enough to let another member of the problem family move back in, or stay in the property, an eviction is an eviction sounds like she never even changed the locks after the eviction.
Exactly, there is far more to this. Also, withholding rent because of services not supplied is not (as per the headline) 'squatting' - and you cannot claim Housing Benefit without some form of written confirmation of tenancy from the Landlord to the Council (it doesn't have to be a drafted TA). Bad Landlords do this in order to circumvent certain responsibilities ( ie: not having to repair a gas leak or deal with a rodent infestation), a bad tenant could also use this to not clear up a messy garden. I would also wager that Mrs Patel and Romuald Usowicz worked on a cash in hand verbal agreement basis which is going to make a court order for repossession very complicated and both parties have obviously dug their heels in - hence Mrs Patel contacting the Echo. It's a non story and has been used to incite commentary (via trigger words) based on preconceived prejudices and ignorance.
Looks like you're twisting the story through wild speculation just to paint the landlord as the baddie here....
None of us know the full story, and it's silly filling in the gaps to strengthen your support of Mr Usowicz
Where have I twisted anything?

Following on from DogsMessInLeigh's comment (which echoed my own initial thoughts) I simply offered possible scenarios (taken from the story) where BOTH parties would be able to take advantage in the absence of a Tenancy Agreement, and to draw attention to the inflammatory narrative contained within this report - which most of the above comments are in direct consequence of.

I'm guessing that you prefer the less 'silly' approach of 'filling in the gaps' based solely on the tenant's nationality and social standing.
[quote][p][bold]cg1blue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yagetme[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: Romuald Usowicz is living in the home with his extended family after he took on the property from his estranged wife Teresa Usowicz, who was evicted in the autumn. Mrs Patel: “It is a nightmare. They have no tenancy agreement. ________________ so if she was evicted, how did he get in..? surely Mrs Patel was not silly enough to let another member of the problem family move back in, or stay in the property, an eviction is an eviction sounds like she never even changed the locks after the eviction.[/p][/quote]Exactly, there is far more to this. Also, withholding rent because of services not supplied is not (as per the headline) 'squatting' - and you cannot claim Housing Benefit without some form of written confirmation of tenancy from the Landlord to the Council (it doesn't have to be a drafted TA). Bad Landlords do this in order to circumvent certain responsibilities ( ie: not having to repair a gas leak or deal with a rodent infestation), a bad tenant could also use this to not clear up a messy garden. I would also wager that Mrs Patel and Romuald Usowicz worked on a cash in hand verbal agreement basis which is going to make a court order for repossession very complicated and both parties have obviously dug their heels in - hence Mrs Patel contacting the Echo. It's a non story and has been used to incite commentary (via trigger words) based on preconceived prejudices and ignorance.[/p][/quote]Looks like you're twisting the story through wild speculation just to paint the landlord as the baddie here.... None of us know the full story, and it's silly filling in the gaps to strengthen your support of Mr Usowicz[/p][/quote]Where have I twisted anything? Following on from DogsMessInLeigh's comment (which echoed my own initial thoughts) I simply offered possible scenarios (taken from the story) where BOTH parties would be able to take advantage in the absence of a Tenancy Agreement, and to draw attention to the inflammatory narrative contained within this report - which most of the above comments are in direct consequence of. I'm guessing that you prefer the less 'silly' approach of 'filling in the gaps' based solely on the tenant's nationality and social standing. yagetme
  • Score: 0

6:02pm Thu 3 Apr 14

ThisYear says...

Cash paid for rent but not paid to the landlord


Not like this lady.

http://www.echo-news
.co.uk/news/national
/11122600.Miller_apo
logises_over_expense
s/
Cash paid for rent but not paid to the landlord Not like this lady. http://www.echo-news .co.uk/news/national /11122600.Miller_apo logises_over_expense s/ ThisYear
  • Score: 0

6:44pm Thu 3 Apr 14

cg1blue says...

yagetme wrote:
cg1blue wrote:
yagetme wrote:
DogsMessInLeigh wrote: Romuald Usowicz is living in the home with his extended family after he took on the property from his estranged wife Teresa Usowicz, who was evicted in the autumn. Mrs Patel: “It is a nightmare. They have no tenancy agreement. ________________ so if she was evicted, how did he get in..? surely Mrs Patel was not silly enough to let another member of the problem family move back in, or stay in the property, an eviction is an eviction sounds like she never even changed the locks after the eviction.
Exactly, there is far more to this. Also, withholding rent because of services not supplied is not (as per the headline) 'squatting' - and you cannot claim Housing Benefit without some form of written confirmation of tenancy from the Landlord to the Council (it doesn't have to be a drafted TA). Bad Landlords do this in order to circumvent certain responsibilities ( ie: not having to repair a gas leak or deal with a rodent infestation), a bad tenant could also use this to not clear up a messy garden. I would also wager that Mrs Patel and Romuald Usowicz worked on a cash in hand verbal agreement basis which is going to make a court order for repossession very complicated and both parties have obviously dug their heels in - hence Mrs Patel contacting the Echo. It's a non story and has been used to incite commentary (via trigger words) based on preconceived prejudices and ignorance.
Looks like you're twisting the story through wild speculation just to paint the landlord as the baddie here....
None of us know the full story, and it's silly filling in the gaps to strengthen your support of Mr Usowicz
Where have I twisted anything?

Following on from DogsMessInLeigh's comment (which echoed my own initial thoughts) I simply offered possible scenarios (taken from the story) where BOTH parties would be able to take advantage in the absence of a Tenancy Agreement, and to draw attention to the inflammatory narrative contained within this report - which most of the above comments are in direct consequence of.

I'm guessing that you prefer the less 'silly' approach of 'filling in the gaps' based solely on the tenant's nationality and social standing.
Perhaps you are making assumptions ("cash in hand") based on your perception of the landlord based on her apparent heritage?
[quote][p][bold]yagetme[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cg1blue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yagetme[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: Romuald Usowicz is living in the home with his extended family after he took on the property from his estranged wife Teresa Usowicz, who was evicted in the autumn. Mrs Patel: “It is a nightmare. They have no tenancy agreement. ________________ so if she was evicted, how did he get in..? surely Mrs Patel was not silly enough to let another member of the problem family move back in, or stay in the property, an eviction is an eviction sounds like she never even changed the locks after the eviction.[/p][/quote]Exactly, there is far more to this. Also, withholding rent because of services not supplied is not (as per the headline) 'squatting' - and you cannot claim Housing Benefit without some form of written confirmation of tenancy from the Landlord to the Council (it doesn't have to be a drafted TA). Bad Landlords do this in order to circumvent certain responsibilities ( ie: not having to repair a gas leak or deal with a rodent infestation), a bad tenant could also use this to not clear up a messy garden. I would also wager that Mrs Patel and Romuald Usowicz worked on a cash in hand verbal agreement basis which is going to make a court order for repossession very complicated and both parties have obviously dug their heels in - hence Mrs Patel contacting the Echo. It's a non story and has been used to incite commentary (via trigger words) based on preconceived prejudices and ignorance.[/p][/quote]Looks like you're twisting the story through wild speculation just to paint the landlord as the baddie here.... None of us know the full story, and it's silly filling in the gaps to strengthen your support of Mr Usowicz[/p][/quote]Where have I twisted anything? Following on from DogsMessInLeigh's comment (which echoed my own initial thoughts) I simply offered possible scenarios (taken from the story) where BOTH parties would be able to take advantage in the absence of a Tenancy Agreement, and to draw attention to the inflammatory narrative contained within this report - which most of the above comments are in direct consequence of. I'm guessing that you prefer the less 'silly' approach of 'filling in the gaps' based solely on the tenant's nationality and social standing.[/p][/quote]Perhaps you are making assumptions ("cash in hand") based on your perception of the landlord based on her apparent heritage? cg1blue
  • Score: 2

8:54pm Thu 3 Apr 14

profondo asbo says...

yagetme wrote:
cg1blue wrote:
yagetme wrote:
DogsMessInLeigh wrote: Romuald Usowicz is living in the home with his extended family after he took on the property from his estranged wife Teresa Usowicz, who was evicted in the autumn. Mrs Patel: “It is a nightmare. They have no tenancy agreement. ________________ so if she was evicted, how did he get in..? surely Mrs Patel was not silly enough to let another member of the problem family move back in, or stay in the property, an eviction is an eviction sounds like she never even changed the locks after the eviction.
Exactly, there is far more to this. Also, withholding rent because of services not supplied is not (as per the headline) 'squatting' - and you cannot claim Housing Benefit without some form of written confirmation of tenancy from the Landlord to the Council (it doesn't have to be a drafted TA). Bad Landlords do this in order to circumvent certain responsibilities ( ie: not having to repair a gas leak or deal with a rodent infestation), a bad tenant could also use this to not clear up a messy garden. I would also wager that Mrs Patel and Romuald Usowicz worked on a cash in hand verbal agreement basis which is going to make a court order for repossession very complicated and both parties have obviously dug their heels in - hence Mrs Patel contacting the Echo. It's a non story and has been used to incite commentary (via trigger words) based on preconceived prejudices and ignorance.
Looks like you're twisting the story through wild speculation just to paint the landlord as the baddie here....
None of us know the full story, and it's silly filling in the gaps to strengthen your support of Mr Usowicz
Where have I twisted anything?

Following on from DogsMessInLeigh's comment (which echoed my own initial thoughts) I simply offered possible scenarios (taken from the story) where BOTH parties would be able to take advantage in the absence of a Tenancy Agreement, and to draw attention to the inflammatory narrative contained within this report - which most of the above comments are in direct consequence of.

I'm guessing that you prefer the less 'silly' approach of 'filling in the gaps' based solely on the tenant's nationality and social standing.
got strawmen?
[quote][p][bold]yagetme[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cg1blue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yagetme[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: Romuald Usowicz is living in the home with his extended family after he took on the property from his estranged wife Teresa Usowicz, who was evicted in the autumn. Mrs Patel: “It is a nightmare. They have no tenancy agreement. ________________ so if she was evicted, how did he get in..? surely Mrs Patel was not silly enough to let another member of the problem family move back in, or stay in the property, an eviction is an eviction sounds like she never even changed the locks after the eviction.[/p][/quote]Exactly, there is far more to this. Also, withholding rent because of services not supplied is not (as per the headline) 'squatting' - and you cannot claim Housing Benefit without some form of written confirmation of tenancy from the Landlord to the Council (it doesn't have to be a drafted TA). Bad Landlords do this in order to circumvent certain responsibilities ( ie: not having to repair a gas leak or deal with a rodent infestation), a bad tenant could also use this to not clear up a messy garden. I would also wager that Mrs Patel and Romuald Usowicz worked on a cash in hand verbal agreement basis which is going to make a court order for repossession very complicated and both parties have obviously dug their heels in - hence Mrs Patel contacting the Echo. It's a non story and has been used to incite commentary (via trigger words) based on preconceived prejudices and ignorance.[/p][/quote]Looks like you're twisting the story through wild speculation just to paint the landlord as the baddie here.... None of us know the full story, and it's silly filling in the gaps to strengthen your support of Mr Usowicz[/p][/quote]Where have I twisted anything? Following on from DogsMessInLeigh's comment (which echoed my own initial thoughts) I simply offered possible scenarios (taken from the story) where BOTH parties would be able to take advantage in the absence of a Tenancy Agreement, and to draw attention to the inflammatory narrative contained within this report - which most of the above comments are in direct consequence of. I'm guessing that you prefer the less 'silly' approach of 'filling in the gaps' based solely on the tenant's nationality and social standing.[/p][/quote]got strawmen? profondo asbo
  • Score: 2

4:19pm Fri 4 Apr 14

ThisYear says...

yagetme wrote:
cg1blue wrote:
yagetme wrote:
DogsMessInLeigh wrote: Romuald Usowicz is living in the home with his extended family after he took on the property from his estranged wife Teresa Usowicz, who was evicted in the autumn. Mrs Patel: “It is a nightmare. They have no tenancy agreement. ________________ so if she was evicted, how did he get in..? surely Mrs Patel was not silly enough to let another member of the problem family move back in, or stay in the property, an eviction is an eviction sounds like she never even changed the locks after the eviction.
Exactly, there is far more to this. Also, withholding rent because of services not supplied is not (as per the headline) 'squatting' - and you cannot claim Housing Benefit without some form of written confirmation of tenancy from the Landlord to the Council (it doesn't have to be a drafted TA). Bad Landlords do this in order to circumvent certain responsibilities ( ie: not having to repair a gas leak or deal with a rodent infestation), a bad tenant could also use this to not clear up a messy garden. I would also wager that Mrs Patel and Romuald Usowicz worked on a cash in hand verbal agreement basis which is going to make a court order for repossession very complicated and both parties have obviously dug their heels in - hence Mrs Patel contacting the Echo. It's a non story and has been used to incite commentary (via trigger words) based on preconceived prejudices and ignorance.
Looks like you're twisting the story through wild speculation just to paint the landlord as the baddie here....
None of us know the full story, and it's silly filling in the gaps to strengthen your support of Mr Usowicz
Where have I twisted anything?

Following on from DogsMessInLeigh's comment (which echoed my own initial thoughts) I simply offered possible scenarios (taken from the story) where BOTH parties would be able to take advantage in the absence of a Tenancy Agreement, and to draw attention to the inflammatory narrative contained within this report - which most of the above comments are in direct consequence of.

I'm guessing that you prefer the less 'silly' approach of 'filling in the gaps' based solely on the tenant's nationality and social standing.
Its probably the fact you continued on after dogsmess...he is notorious for posting BS which is a bit ironic as he has a thing about DS.
[quote][p][bold]yagetme[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cg1blue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yagetme[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: Romuald Usowicz is living in the home with his extended family after he took on the property from his estranged wife Teresa Usowicz, who was evicted in the autumn. Mrs Patel: “It is a nightmare. They have no tenancy agreement. ________________ so if she was evicted, how did he get in..? surely Mrs Patel was not silly enough to let another member of the problem family move back in, or stay in the property, an eviction is an eviction sounds like she never even changed the locks after the eviction.[/p][/quote]Exactly, there is far more to this. Also, withholding rent because of services not supplied is not (as per the headline) 'squatting' - and you cannot claim Housing Benefit without some form of written confirmation of tenancy from the Landlord to the Council (it doesn't have to be a drafted TA). Bad Landlords do this in order to circumvent certain responsibilities ( ie: not having to repair a gas leak or deal with a rodent infestation), a bad tenant could also use this to not clear up a messy garden. I would also wager that Mrs Patel and Romuald Usowicz worked on a cash in hand verbal agreement basis which is going to make a court order for repossession very complicated and both parties have obviously dug their heels in - hence Mrs Patel contacting the Echo. It's a non story and has been used to incite commentary (via trigger words) based on preconceived prejudices and ignorance.[/p][/quote]Looks like you're twisting the story through wild speculation just to paint the landlord as the baddie here.... None of us know the full story, and it's silly filling in the gaps to strengthen your support of Mr Usowicz[/p][/quote]Where have I twisted anything? Following on from DogsMessInLeigh's comment (which echoed my own initial thoughts) I simply offered possible scenarios (taken from the story) where BOTH parties would be able to take advantage in the absence of a Tenancy Agreement, and to draw attention to the inflammatory narrative contained within this report - which most of the above comments are in direct consequence of. I'm guessing that you prefer the less 'silly' approach of 'filling in the gaps' based solely on the tenant's nationality and social standing.[/p][/quote]Its probably the fact you continued on after dogsmess...he is notorious for posting BS which is a bit ironic as he has a thing about DS. ThisYear
  • Score: 0

9:43pm Fri 4 Apr 14

DogsMessInLeigh says...

still stalking me then i see.
still stalking me then i see. DogsMessInLeigh
  • Score: 0

10:16pm Fri 4 Apr 14

ThisYear says...

DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
still stalking me then i see.
I make mention of you, if thats what you mean..and I will continue to do so while your post bs..think of it as a community service for the forum members.
[quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: still stalking me then i see.[/p][/quote]I make mention of you, if thats what you mean..and I will continue to do so while your post bs..think of it as a community service for the forum members. ThisYear
  • Score: -1

10:42pm Fri 4 Apr 14

DogsMessInLeigh says...

not sure if i am chuffed about having another fan and follower....or worried, it turned sour for Jodie Marsh.
not sure if i am chuffed about having another fan and follower....or worried, it turned sour for Jodie Marsh. DogsMessInLeigh
  • Score: 0

12:05am Sat 5 Apr 14

ThisYear says...

DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
not sure if i am chuffed about having another fan and follower....or worried, it turned sour for Jodie Marsh.
You delude yourself that you have fans?

Oh you poor soul.
[quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: not sure if i am chuffed about having another fan and follower....or worried, it turned sour for Jodie Marsh.[/p][/quote]You delude yourself that you have fans? Oh you poor soul. ThisYear
  • Score: -2

8:42am Sat 5 Apr 14

DogsMessInLeigh says...

ThisYear wrote:
DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
not sure if i am chuffed about having another fan and follower....or worried, it turned sour for Jodie Marsh.
You delude yourself that you have fans?

Oh you poor soul.
well its obvious you just can't seem to leave me alone.
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: not sure if i am chuffed about having another fan and follower....or worried, it turned sour for Jodie Marsh.[/p][/quote]You delude yourself that you have fans? Oh you poor soul.[/p][/quote]well its obvious you just can't seem to leave me alone. DogsMessInLeigh
  • Score: 0

1:08pm Sat 5 Apr 14

ThisYear says...

DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
not sure if i am chuffed about having another fan and follower....or worried, it turned sour for Jodie Marsh.
You delude yourself that you have fans?

Oh you poor soul.
well its obvious you just can't seem to leave me alone.
Aww you poor tormented soul..someone replies to your blunderposts and you feel they are picking on you..maybe best you stick to posting about dogsmess then..Eh?
[quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: not sure if i am chuffed about having another fan and follower....or worried, it turned sour for Jodie Marsh.[/p][/quote]You delude yourself that you have fans? Oh you poor soul.[/p][/quote]well its obvious you just can't seem to leave me alone.[/p][/quote]Aww you poor tormented soul..someone replies to your blunderposts and you feel they are picking on you..maybe best you stick to posting about dogsmess then..Eh? ThisYear
  • Score: -2

2:01pm Sat 5 Apr 14

DogsMessInLeigh says...

ThisYear wrote:
DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
not sure if i am chuffed about having another fan and follower....or worried, it turned sour for Jodie Marsh.
You delude yourself that you have fans?

Oh you poor soul.
well its obvious you just can't seem to leave me alone.
Aww you poor tormented soul..someone replies to your blunderposts and you feel they are picking on you..maybe best you stick to posting about dogsmess then..Eh?
No not picking on....following/stal
king, big differance, picking on is bullying, stalking is an obsession, harmless sometimes, but has a dark side and a sexual one, but then i knew you didn't have the cells to know a difference.
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: not sure if i am chuffed about having another fan and follower....or worried, it turned sour for Jodie Marsh.[/p][/quote]You delude yourself that you have fans? Oh you poor soul.[/p][/quote]well its obvious you just can't seem to leave me alone.[/p][/quote]Aww you poor tormented soul..someone replies to your blunderposts and you feel they are picking on you..maybe best you stick to posting about dogsmess then..Eh?[/p][/quote]No not picking on....following/stal king, big differance, picking on is bullying, stalking is an obsession, harmless sometimes, but has a dark side and a sexual one, but then i knew you didn't have the cells to know a difference. DogsMessInLeigh
  • Score: 2

7:00pm Sat 5 Apr 14

ThisYear says...

DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
not sure if i am chuffed about having another fan and follower....or worried, it turned sour for Jodie Marsh.
You delude yourself that you have fans?

Oh you poor soul.
well its obvious you just can't seem to leave me alone.
Aww you poor tormented soul..someone replies to your blunderposts and you feel they are picking on you..maybe best you stick to posting about dogsmess then..Eh?
No not picking on....following/stal

king, big differance, picking on is bullying, stalking is an obsession, harmless sometimes, but has a dark side and a sexual one, but then i knew you didn't have the cells to know a difference.
Oh god...you think my rebutting your bs is sexual...ewww..you really are gone...

Its you who is likening my confronting your bs as stalking....stick to things you know about ie dogsdoo on the pavement and perhaps ill not be '****' after you...idiot!
[quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: not sure if i am chuffed about having another fan and follower....or worried, it turned sour for Jodie Marsh.[/p][/quote]You delude yourself that you have fans? Oh you poor soul.[/p][/quote]well its obvious you just can't seem to leave me alone.[/p][/quote]Aww you poor tormented soul..someone replies to your blunderposts and you feel they are picking on you..maybe best you stick to posting about dogsmess then..Eh?[/p][/quote]No not picking on....following/stal king, big differance, picking on is bullying, stalking is an obsession, harmless sometimes, but has a dark side and a sexual one, but then i knew you didn't have the cells to know a difference.[/p][/quote]Oh god...you think my rebutting your bs is sexual...ewww..you really are gone... Its you who is likening my confronting your bs as stalking....stick to things you know about ie dogsdoo on the pavement and perhaps ill not be '****' after you...idiot! ThisYear
  • Score: 0

9:15pm Sat 5 Apr 14

DogsMessInLeigh says...

you are sounding obsessed not only with me but dogs sh!t too its not healthy, you spend too much time on here picking posts out and seeing things that ain't there, have a break and give everyone including yourself some relief, you think theres something wrong with Kim but you are winning the race.
you are sounding obsessed not only with me but dogs sh!t too its not healthy, you spend too much time on here picking posts out and seeing things that ain't there, have a break and give everyone including yourself some relief, you think theres something wrong with Kim but you are winning the race. DogsMessInLeigh
  • Score: 0

10:05pm Sat 5 Apr 14

profondo asbo says...

got boiled bunny?
got boiled bunny? profondo asbo
  • Score: 0

11:44am Sun 6 Apr 14

ThisYear says...

DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
you are sounding obsessed not only with me but dogs sh!t too its not healthy, you spend too much time on here picking posts out and seeing things that ain't there, have a break and give everyone including yourself some relief, you think theres something wrong with Kim but you are winning the race.
Oh my goodness...is this not the proof of your derangement?

"you are sounding obsessed not only with me but dogs sh!t too"

Posted by dah dah dah dah **DogsMessInLeigh**

When you, metaphorically, keep a civil tongue in your head you may find I will ignore your mediocre dribble...till then!

Kim is driven by her lack as a political bod..she blames all for her demise left right and centre while ignoring it is all down to her...id say you and her have a bit in common in that respect.
[quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: you are sounding obsessed not only with me but dogs sh!t too its not healthy, you spend too much time on here picking posts out and seeing things that ain't there, have a break and give everyone including yourself some relief, you think theres something wrong with Kim but you are winning the race.[/p][/quote]Oh my goodness...is this not the proof of your derangement? "you are sounding obsessed not only with me but dogs sh!t too" Posted by dah dah dah dah **DogsMessInLeigh** When you, metaphorically, keep a civil tongue in your head you may find I will ignore your mediocre dribble...till then! Kim is driven by her lack as a political bod..she blames all for her demise left right and centre while ignoring it is all down to her...id say you and her have a bit in common in that respect. ThisYear
  • Score: 0

1:02pm Sun 6 Apr 14

DogsMessInLeigh says...

Mummy please make the bad man go away.
Mummy please make the bad man go away. DogsMessInLeigh
  • Score: 1

10:24pm Sun 6 Apr 14

ThisYear says...

DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
Mummy please make the bad man go away.
About right!
[quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: Mummy please make the bad man go away.[/p][/quote]About right! ThisYear
  • Score: 0

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