Let's have a pub back on the pier

Southend Standard: Mark Sharp, Sheena Walker and Patsy Link Mark Sharp, Sheena Walker and Patsy Link

CAMPAIGNERS have called for a new pub to draw more visitors down Southend Pier.

Campaign group Skipp has called for a new pierhead pub on the site of McInty’s bar, which was destroyed by fire in 2005.

Member Mark Sharp said: “We thoroughly believe a pub down there serving alcohol and food would be a goldmine.

“It’s a captive audience, even if visitor numbers are lower than they were before the fire.”

Skipp, which campaigns on a number of heritage and environmental issues around the town, has invited chains Marston’s Inns and Taverns and JD Wetherspoon to open a new pub between the pier train station and the cafe Jamie Oliver used to film TV show Jamie and Jimmy’s Food Fight Club, but is yet to hear back.

More than 280,000 visited the Grade II listed pier last year, the busiest since the 2005 fire, which also damaged the train station, shell shop, snack bar and ice-cream shop.

Visitor numbers have risen by more than 50,000 a year since the £3million Royal Pavilion was opened in July 2012, hosting events such as Southend Comedy Festival and Horror-on-Sea.

A new open-air amphitheatre is set to open in time for this year’s summer season and a £100,000 overhaul of last year’s maritime festival, featuring the “hot start” of the Venture Cup powerboat race between London and Monte Carlo in June is expected to pull in crowds.

But Derek Jarvis, Southend councillor responsible for culture and tourism fears the lack of year-round passing trade and the unreliability of the weather and transport down the pier will scare off potential investors.

The Conservative said: “While we would not rule out any community idea, I do not believe that a pub is necessarily the best thing for the pier or even a realistic aim.

“We have explored various options for commercial ventures such as restaurants over many years, but the common response is that it is not viable. Unfortunately in this instance SKIPP have shown extreme naivety in their understanding of how the pier and business works.

“Leasing parts of the pier is a huge challenge.”

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9:37am Tue 25 Mar 14

carnmountyouknowitmakessense says...

No, they should keep those dens of inequity, limited to the seafront and beyond, tends to attract the wrong crowd, imagine them, all smoking outside..here we go again, call the fire service...
No, they should keep those dens of inequity, limited to the seafront and beyond, tends to attract the wrong crowd, imagine them, all smoking outside..here we go again, call the fire service... carnmountyouknowitmakessense
  • Score: -9

9:49am Tue 25 Mar 14

DannyK86 says...

I totally agree that the pier would be a great opportunity for a pub, bar and/or restaurant, and it's a shame Jame Oliver's cafe can't be used when he's not filming.

I don't really know why this has anything to do with a campaign group about a Saxon king and Priory Park, however...
I totally agree that the pier would be a great opportunity for a pub, bar and/or restaurant, and it's a shame Jame Oliver's cafe can't be used when he's not filming. I don't really know why this has anything to do with a campaign group about a Saxon king and Priory Park, however... DannyK86
  • Score: 5

9:56am Tue 25 Mar 14

DogsMessInLeigh says...

I do find people putting their feet up on benches wrong(as per photo), others want to sit on them(thats the purpose), even place their hands on them, they don't want remnants of all sorts of filth coming from peoples shoes on them.

Thanks.
I do find people putting their feet up on benches wrong(as per photo), others want to sit on them(thats the purpose), even place their hands on them, they don't want remnants of all sorts of filth coming from peoples shoes on them. Thanks. DogsMessInLeigh
  • Score: -1

9:56am Tue 25 Mar 14

carnmountyouknowitmakessense says...

DannyK86 wrote:
I totally agree that the pier would be a great opportunity for a pub, bar and/or restaurant, and it's a shame Jame Oliver's cafe can't be used when he's not filming.

I don't really know why this has anything to do with a campaign group about a Saxon king and Priory Park, however...
Jamie Oliver, like so many others, have simply used an otherwise derelict shack, on a mostly under used pier, lets not ruin it, by encouraging alcoholic smokers, to the calm of this pier..
[quote][p][bold]DannyK86[/bold] wrote: I totally agree that the pier would be a great opportunity for a pub, bar and/or restaurant, and it's a shame Jame Oliver's cafe can't be used when he's not filming. I don't really know why this has anything to do with a campaign group about a Saxon king and Priory Park, however...[/p][/quote]Jamie Oliver, like so many others, have simply used an otherwise derelict shack, on a mostly under used pier, lets not ruin it, by encouraging alcoholic smokers, to the calm of this pier.. carnmountyouknowitmakessense
  • Score: -7

10:18am Tue 25 Mar 14

DannyK86 says...

carnmountyouknowitma
kessense
wrote:
DannyK86 wrote:
I totally agree that the pier would be a great opportunity for a pub, bar and/or restaurant, and it's a shame Jame Oliver's cafe can't be used when he's not filming.

I don't really know why this has anything to do with a campaign group about a Saxon king and Priory Park, however...
Jamie Oliver, like so many others, have simply used an otherwise derelict shack, on a mostly under used pier, lets not ruin it, by encouraging alcoholic smokers, to the calm of this pier..
I'm all for banning smoking, but there's something nice about having a beer by the sea...
[quote][p][bold]carnmountyouknowitma kessense[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DannyK86[/bold] wrote: I totally agree that the pier would be a great opportunity for a pub, bar and/or restaurant, and it's a shame Jame Oliver's cafe can't be used when he's not filming. I don't really know why this has anything to do with a campaign group about a Saxon king and Priory Park, however...[/p][/quote]Jamie Oliver, like so many others, have simply used an otherwise derelict shack, on a mostly under used pier, lets not ruin it, by encouraging alcoholic smokers, to the calm of this pier..[/p][/quote]I'm all for banning smoking, but there's something nice about having a beer by the sea... DannyK86
  • Score: 5

11:04am Tue 25 Mar 14

Handyman Southend says...

I do believe one can buys "beer" at the Royal Pavilion.
I do believe one can buys "beer" at the Royal Pavilion. Handyman Southend
  • Score: -1

11:15am Tue 25 Mar 14

Howard Cháse says...

SBC would prefer the pier to fall into the mud and disappear itwould seem
SBC would prefer the pier to fall into the mud and disappear itwould seem Howard Cháse
  • Score: 3

11:20am Tue 25 Mar 14

DogsMessInLeigh says...

DannyK86 wrote:
carnmountyouknowitma

kessense
wrote:
DannyK86 wrote:
I totally agree that the pier would be a great opportunity for a pub, bar and/or restaurant, and it's a shame Jame Oliver's cafe can't be used when he's not filming.

I don't really know why this has anything to do with a campaign group about a Saxon king and Priory Park, however...
Jamie Oliver, like so many others, have simply used an otherwise derelict shack, on a mostly under used pier, lets not ruin it, by encouraging alcoholic smokers, to the calm of this pier..
I'm all for banning smoking, but there's something nice about having a beer by the sea...
i understood that smoking is banned on the pier anyway.

and the Jamie and Jimmy place looks ok on TV but its not nice close up.
[quote][p][bold]DannyK86[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]carnmountyouknowitma kessense[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DannyK86[/bold] wrote: I totally agree that the pier would be a great opportunity for a pub, bar and/or restaurant, and it's a shame Jame Oliver's cafe can't be used when he's not filming. I don't really know why this has anything to do with a campaign group about a Saxon king and Priory Park, however...[/p][/quote]Jamie Oliver, like so many others, have simply used an otherwise derelict shack, on a mostly under used pier, lets not ruin it, by encouraging alcoholic smokers, to the calm of this pier..[/p][/quote]I'm all for banning smoking, but there's something nice about having a beer by the sea...[/p][/quote]i understood that smoking is banned on the pier anyway. and the Jamie and Jimmy place looks ok on TV but its not nice close up. DogsMessInLeigh
  • Score: 2

1:17pm Tue 25 Mar 14

emcee says...

The pier needs something that will entertain visitors once they get to the end. Some kind of "insentive" so's to say. A glorified shed holding the odd exhibition or amphitheatre holding occasional live entertainment is all well and good but these will only amuse a minority of visitors some of the time.
What could be better than taking the trip to the end of the pier. Be entertained by something or other the whole family can enjoy (and won't get bored by), regardless of what time of day or year you visit, enjoy a bag of chips and settle down for a pint before the trek (or train ride) back to shore.
The council are being very short sighted about this town's greatest asset and just because visitor numberts are up does not mean they should be complacent. I remember forty odd years ago when the pier would be absolutely heaving with visitors. With the attitude of this council, they could never expect numbers of visitors anywhere remotely near number the pier was enjoying then and I do not even think they care. I know times change and visitor requirements change but this is no excuse for the council not to aim higher.
The pier needs something that will entertain visitors once they get to the end. Some kind of "insentive" so's to say. A glorified shed holding the odd exhibition or amphitheatre holding occasional live entertainment is all well and good but these will only amuse a minority of visitors some of the time. What could be better than taking the trip to the end of the pier. Be entertained by something or other the whole family can enjoy (and won't get bored by), regardless of what time of day or year you visit, enjoy a bag of chips and settle down for a pint before the trek (or train ride) back to shore. The council are being very short sighted about this town's greatest asset and just because visitor numberts are up does not mean they should be complacent. I remember forty odd years ago when the pier would be absolutely heaving with visitors. With the attitude of this council, they could never expect numbers of visitors anywhere remotely near number the pier was enjoying then and I do not even think they care. I know times change and visitor requirements change but this is no excuse for the council not to aim higher. emcee
  • Score: 6

1:32pm Tue 25 Mar 14

Joe Clark says...

It is nice to actually go somewhere on the seafront where booze is not really available, why should there be a pub at the end of the pier, keep it booze free.

Why is it up to everyone else to fund it, If these people really want a pub down there why not step up and put their money down to do it themselves, why don't they take the risk of the investment?
It is nice to actually go somewhere on the seafront where booze is not really available, why should there be a pub at the end of the pier, keep it booze free. Why is it up to everyone else to fund it, If these people really want a pub down there why not step up and put their money down to do it themselves, why don't they take the risk of the investment? Joe Clark
  • Score: -1

3:37pm Tue 25 Mar 14

Keptquiettillnow says...

A pub at the end of a pier, what could go wrong?
At least it would be a short trip for the lifeboat.
A pub at the end of a pier, what could go wrong? At least it would be a short trip for the lifeboat. Keptquiettillnow
  • Score: 0

3:44pm Tue 25 Mar 14

DannyK86 says...

Joe Clark wrote:
It is nice to actually go somewhere on the seafront where booze is not really available, why should there be a pub at the end of the pier, keep it booze free.

Why is it up to everyone else to fund it, If these people really want a pub down there why not step up and put their money down to do it themselves, why don't they take the risk of the investment?
Alcohol isn't available on the seafront? Are you blind?
[quote][p][bold]Joe Clark[/bold] wrote: It is nice to actually go somewhere on the seafront where booze is not really available, why should there be a pub at the end of the pier, keep it booze free. Why is it up to everyone else to fund it, If these people really want a pub down there why not step up and put their money down to do it themselves, why don't they take the risk of the investment?[/p][/quote]Alcohol isn't available on the seafront? Are you blind? DannyK86
  • Score: 0

4:35pm Tue 25 Mar 14

pembury53 says...

“Leasing parts of the pier is a huge challenge” compared to what ? building europe's largest container port or the international space station....
“Leasing parts of the pier is a huge challenge” compared to what ? building europe's largest container port or the international space station.... pembury53
  • Score: 2

4:43pm Tue 25 Mar 14

Joe Clark says...

DannyK86 wrote:
Joe Clark wrote:
It is nice to actually go somewhere on the seafront where booze is not really available, why should there be a pub at the end of the pier, keep it booze free.

Why is it up to everyone else to fund it, If these people really want a pub down there why not step up and put their money down to do it themselves, why don't they take the risk of the investment?
Alcohol isn't available on the seafront? Are you blind?
So there are no pubs on the seafront, when did they all close? what has replaced them details man I need details...!
[quote][p][bold]DannyK86[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joe Clark[/bold] wrote: It is nice to actually go somewhere on the seafront where booze is not really available, why should there be a pub at the end of the pier, keep it booze free. Why is it up to everyone else to fund it, If these people really want a pub down there why not step up and put their money down to do it themselves, why don't they take the risk of the investment?[/p][/quote]Alcohol isn't available on the seafront? Are you blind?[/p][/quote]So there are no pubs on the seafront, when did they all close? what has replaced them details man I need details...! Joe Clark
  • Score: 0

6:01pm Tue 25 Mar 14

DannyK86 says...

Joe Clark wrote:
DannyK86 wrote:
Joe Clark wrote:
It is nice to actually go somewhere on the seafront where booze is not really available, why should there be a pub at the end of the pier, keep it booze free.

Why is it up to everyone else to fund it, If these people really want a pub down there why not step up and put their money down to do it themselves, why don't they take the risk of the investment?
Alcohol isn't available on the seafront? Are you blind?
So there are no pubs on the seafront, when did they all close? what has replaced them details man I need details...!
Oops, think I misread you - I thought you were saying alcohol wasn't readily available on the seafront!
[quote][p][bold]Joe Clark[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DannyK86[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joe Clark[/bold] wrote: It is nice to actually go somewhere on the seafront where booze is not really available, why should there be a pub at the end of the pier, keep it booze free. Why is it up to everyone else to fund it, If these people really want a pub down there why not step up and put their money down to do it themselves, why don't they take the risk of the investment?[/p][/quote]Alcohol isn't available on the seafront? Are you blind?[/p][/quote]So there are no pubs on the seafront, when did they all close? what has replaced them details man I need details...![/p][/quote]Oops, think I misread you - I thought you were saying alcohol wasn't readily available on the seafront! DannyK86
  • Score: 1

6:09pm Tue 25 Mar 14

Joe Clark says...

DannyK86 wrote:
Joe Clark wrote:
DannyK86 wrote:
Joe Clark wrote:
It is nice to actually go somewhere on the seafront where booze is not really available, why should there be a pub at the end of the pier, keep it booze free.

Why is it up to everyone else to fund it, If these people really want a pub down there why not step up and put their money down to do it themselves, why don't they take the risk of the investment?
Alcohol isn't available on the seafront? Are you blind?
So there are no pubs on the seafront, when did they all close? what has replaced them details man I need details...!
Oops, think I misread you - I thought you were saying alcohol wasn't readily available on the seafront!
That's OK,

I just think its nice to be able to go somewhere on the Seafront where there is very little chance of having drunken buffoons staggering around.
[quote][p][bold]DannyK86[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joe Clark[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DannyK86[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joe Clark[/bold] wrote: It is nice to actually go somewhere on the seafront where booze is not really available, why should there be a pub at the end of the pier, keep it booze free. Why is it up to everyone else to fund it, If these people really want a pub down there why not step up and put their money down to do it themselves, why don't they take the risk of the investment?[/p][/quote]Alcohol isn't available on the seafront? Are you blind?[/p][/quote]So there are no pubs on the seafront, when did they all close? what has replaced them details man I need details...![/p][/quote]Oops, think I misread you - I thought you were saying alcohol wasn't readily available on the seafront![/p][/quote]That's OK, I just think its nice to be able to go somewhere on the Seafront where there is very little chance of having drunken buffoons staggering around. Joe Clark
  • Score: -1

9:02am Wed 26 Mar 14

carnmountyouknowitmakessense says...

Joe Clark wrote:
DannyK86 wrote:
Joe Clark wrote:
DannyK86 wrote:
Joe Clark wrote:
It is nice to actually go somewhere on the seafront where booze is not really available, why should there be a pub at the end of the pier, keep it booze free.

Why is it up to everyone else to fund it, If these people really want a pub down there why not step up and put their money down to do it themselves, why don't they take the risk of the investment?
Alcohol isn't available on the seafront? Are you blind?
So there are no pubs on the seafront, when did they all close? what has replaced them details man I need details...!
Oops, think I misread you - I thought you were saying alcohol wasn't readily available on the seafront!
That's OK,

I just think its nice to be able to go somewhere on the Seafront where there is very little chance of having drunken buffoons staggering around.
You'd have to leave Essex, to avoid those...
[quote][p][bold]Joe Clark[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DannyK86[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joe Clark[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DannyK86[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joe Clark[/bold] wrote: It is nice to actually go somewhere on the seafront where booze is not really available, why should there be a pub at the end of the pier, keep it booze free. Why is it up to everyone else to fund it, If these people really want a pub down there why not step up and put their money down to do it themselves, why don't they take the risk of the investment?[/p][/quote]Alcohol isn't available on the seafront? Are you blind?[/p][/quote]So there are no pubs on the seafront, when did they all close? what has replaced them details man I need details...![/p][/quote]Oops, think I misread you - I thought you were saying alcohol wasn't readily available on the seafront![/p][/quote]That's OK, I just think its nice to be able to go somewhere on the Seafront where there is very little chance of having drunken buffoons staggering around.[/p][/quote]You'd have to leave Essex, to avoid those... carnmountyouknowitmakessense
  • Score: -1

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