Hanningfield defends £300 House of Lords 'clock-in' cash

Southend Standard: Lord Hanningfield Lord Hanningfield

LORD Hanningfield, who was jailed for expenses fraud, has defended regularly "clocking in" to claim a £300 daily attendance allowance despite spending less than 40 minutes inside the House of Lords.

The former leader of Essex County Council - who served nine weeks of a nine-month sentence in 2011 for falsely claiming £28,000 in parliamentary expenses - suggested it was normal practice and that as many as 50 others did the same.

The money went on "entertaining, meeting people, employing people", he said, adding that he was a "full-time peer" who needed to be able to pay his electricity bill and buy food.

There is no suggestion that Lord Hanningfield, a former leader of Essex County Council, broke any rules , but he faced calls from a Labour MP for him to be investigated by parliamentary authorities over the practice.

The Daily Mirror said that on 11 of 19 days that it monitored the peer's movements in July, he travelled to Westminster from his home in Essex but spent less than 40 minutes in the Lords before returning.

The shortest attendance during the month was 21 minutes and the longest more than five hours, it said - with a total of £5,700 claimed in attendance allowance over the month and £471 in travel costs.

Confronted about the claims by the newspaper, Lord Hanningfield said: "Lots of peers go in and check in for their expenses, but they are using their expenses for a lot of things, entertaining, meeting people, employing people."

He added: "Clocking in and out of Parliament is only part of being a peer."

"By the time I have people at home to help, time I have people in the House of Lords to help me, I spend something like £150 a day on expenses, so I don't really make any profit."

He said: "I have to live, don't I? I don't do anything else. How do you think I am going to eat, how am I going to pay my electricity bills?

"My income from the Lords will be about £30,000 a year, I pay about that in £18,000 in expense to other people, I'll end up with £12,000 a year."

He told the newspaper: "I can name 50 that do it. I see the same people go in and out as I do. I don't want to be persecuted."

The former leader of Essex County Council, who was stripped of the Tory whip in 2010, said that in July he had been "trying to get myself back on track" after suffering a breakdown because of the expenses scandal.

Since October, he said, he had "dramatically" upped his contributions in the Lords - speaking twice and attending committees.

The Mirror said that between April 2012 and July 2013 he claimed a total of £51,300 in attendance allowance despite making no speeches in the Lords chamber. "Being a lord is not just going in the House of Lords. It's the post you have. I have 15 letters a day, I have all sorts of things like that," Lord Hanningfield said.

"I can do some of it at home, some of it at my office in the Lords.

"I admit I don't go much into the main chamber. If you look at my records since October it's changed dramatically because I've spoken twice.

"Let me explain again. I was trying to get myself organised after a nervous breakdown, a traumatic period."

The peer said that he had "made some mistakes" and paid back £70,000 in previous claims but continued to dispute his guilt and suggested he wished he had appealed against his conviction.

An guide for peers on claiming the £300 daily allowance says that it is available to those "who certify that they have carried out appropriate Parliamentary work".

Labour MP John Mann said: "There needs to be a full investigation into how he has been allowed to get away with it. We need to give the House of Lords a proper and transparent spring-cleaning."

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8:46am Tue 17 Dec 13

Discouraged says...

Angela smith is also making thousands a month from the House of Lords.
Angela smith is also making thousands a month from the House of Lords. Discouraged

9:16am Tue 17 Dec 13

Kim Gandy says...

Discouraged wrote:
Angela smith is also making thousands a month from the House of Lords.
....and she is the one sitting in judgement on others. She has a fine need to talk. Let's face it, this "socialist" was VEHEMENTLY against the House of Lords, wanted it abolished but now she calls herself "Baroness Basildon"... "Ange of Vange" is more appropriate.

Makes me sick how these people are so holier than thou.. And let's face it, there has been a protracted hate campaign against the mayor, who does NOT claim endless expenses and in fact pays for stuff for her charities herself as she does with events, paying for her own tickets, her own driver and all associated expenses yet she gets a slagging off and her personal life publicly ripped to shreds.

And before the usual haters start, no I am NOT a Tory nor have any intentions of joining any political party having MADE THE DECISION MYSELF not to renew my membership of UKIP and resigned from the English Democrats (I NEVER held membership of BNP and EDL and this can be PROVED by those who prefer to find out the truth before spouting their gobs off). I have no personal agenda but I DETEST seeing others suffer the same cr@p I've had to endure at the hands of the professional haters of the Left who lie through their teeth for personal gain.

And who is behind the hate campaign, that's right, the hate filled lefties - the same ones that are always regurgitating old rubbish off the internet about me and I don't hold public office any more.

It's all wrong. It's about time the lid was taken off these people. I hate hypocrisy - and worst of all people who claim that the House of Lords should be abolished but then are quite happy to take £300 a day attendance fee from the public purse. And accept a "title".

Instead of victimising politicians who DO pay their own way, let the Echo and Jon Austin do an expose on ALL the local politicians who are helping themselves to copious quantities of our money. People who really ARE taking the p*ss, instead of "investigating" those who have paid their own way and wasting public money to do it.

It's all wrong in this country, those who speak the truth are victimised and pilloried whilst the liars and hypocrites are revered - shows how idiotic and gullible people are.
[quote][p][bold]Discouraged[/bold] wrote: Angela smith is also making thousands a month from the House of Lords.[/p][/quote]....and she is the one sitting in judgement on others. She has a fine need to talk. Let's face it, this "socialist" was VEHEMENTLY against the House of Lords, wanted it abolished but now she calls herself "Baroness Basildon"... "Ange of Vange" is more appropriate. Makes me sick how these people are so holier than thou.. And let's face it, there has been a protracted hate campaign against the mayor, who does NOT claim endless expenses and in fact pays for stuff for her charities herself as she does with events, paying for her own tickets, her own driver and all associated expenses yet she gets a slagging off and her personal life publicly ripped to shreds. And before the usual haters start, no I am NOT a Tory nor have any intentions of joining any political party having MADE THE DECISION MYSELF not to renew my membership of UKIP and resigned from the English Democrats (I NEVER held membership of BNP and EDL and this can be PROVED by those who prefer to find out the truth before spouting their gobs off). I have no personal agenda but I DETEST seeing others suffer the same cr@p I've had to endure at the hands of the professional haters of the Left who lie through their teeth for personal gain. And who is behind the hate campaign, that's right, the hate filled lefties - the same ones that are always regurgitating old rubbish off the internet about me and I don't hold public office any more. It's all wrong. It's about time the lid was taken off these people. I hate hypocrisy - and worst of all people who claim that the House of Lords should be abolished but then are quite happy to take £300 a day attendance fee from the public purse. And accept a "title". Instead of victimising politicians who DO pay their own way, let the Echo and Jon Austin do an expose on ALL the local politicians who are helping themselves to copious quantities of our money. People who really ARE taking the p*ss, instead of "investigating" those who have paid their own way and wasting public money to do it. It's all wrong in this country, those who speak the truth are victimised and pilloried whilst the liars and hypocrites are revered - shows how idiotic and gullible people are. Kim Gandy

9:48am Tue 17 Dec 13

Howard Cháse says...

Do they all ac tually turn up to do ir do they take it in turns to clock each other in?

I suppose it gives them a chance to claim for travel expenses (1st class rail and/or taxi fares), plus ale and pies expenses too.
Must be really hard trying to scrape a living for old pig farmer pete and his pals......
Do they all ac tually turn up to do ir do they take it in turns to clock each other in? I suppose it gives them a chance to claim for travel expenses (1st class rail and/or taxi fares), plus ale and pies expenses too. Must be really hard trying to scrape a living for old pig farmer pete and his pals...... Howard Cháse

9:48am Tue 17 Dec 13

pierre-pierre says...

Never mind Kim, you can get your Bus pass in January!!!!

Lord Hanningfield said on the BBC this morning that his office is on Millbank and he has to go to the House to collect items, he also quoted the various Parliamentary questions that he has raised
Never mind Kim, you can get your Bus pass in January!!!! Lord Hanningfield said on the BBC this morning that his office is on Millbank and he has to go to the House to collect items, he also quoted the various Parliamentary questions that he has raised pierre-pierre

9:56am Tue 17 Dec 13

hughie-s says...

The maximum he could have claimed in July was £6k, he missed a day the shirker.
The maximum he could have claimed in July was £6k, he missed a day the shirker. hughie-s

9:58am Tue 17 Dec 13

Kim Gandy says...

Anyway, Happy Christmas to the decent folk on here... and to the others who have NO spirit of Christmas or a decent bone in their body nor the ability to keep their gobs shut about people they know NOTHING about but are happy to perpetuate rumours about - a partridge up your pear tree
Anyway, Happy Christmas to the decent folk on here... and to the others who have NO spirit of Christmas or a decent bone in their body nor the ability to keep their gobs shut about people they know NOTHING about but are happy to perpetuate rumours about - a partridge up your pear tree Kim Gandy

9:59am Tue 17 Dec 13

hughie-s says...

Howard Cháse wrote:
Do they all ac tually turn up to do ir do they take it in turns to clock each other in?

I suppose it gives them a chance to claim for travel expenses (1st class rail and/or taxi fares), plus ale and pies expenses too.
Must be really hard trying to scrape a living for old pig farmer pete and his pals......
In July he claimed £471 in attendance travel costs, £412 in rail/ferry/coach costs and £59 in taxi fares.
[quote][p][bold]Howard Cháse[/bold] wrote: Do they all ac tually turn up to do ir do they take it in turns to clock each other in? I suppose it gives them a chance to claim for travel expenses (1st class rail and/or taxi fares), plus ale and pies expenses too. Must be really hard trying to scrape a living for old pig farmer pete and his pals......[/p][/quote]In July he claimed £471 in attendance travel costs, £412 in rail/ferry/coach costs and £59 in taxi fares. hughie-s

10:01am Tue 17 Dec 13

Route88 says...

Those who make the so-called rules are either on the 'champagne train' themselves or will be on it at some point in their lives so even if the present rules are abolished, equally advantageous ways of screwing the taxpayer will emerge!
Those who make the so-called rules are either on the 'champagne train' themselves or will be on it at some point in their lives so even if the present rules are abolished, equally advantageous ways of screwing the taxpayer will emerge! Route88

10:04am Tue 17 Dec 13

Jack222 says...

Unbelievable. Why was he not stripped of his title after all he he was jailed criminal?

Anyone know if he is still a member of a political party?
Unbelievable. Why was he not stripped of his title after all he he was jailed criminal? Anyone know if he is still a member of a political party? Jack222

10:10am Tue 17 Dec 13

Ritchie_Hicks says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
Discouraged wrote:
Angela smith is also making thousands a month from the House of Lords.
....and she is the one sitting in judgement on others. She has a fine need to talk. Let's face it, this "socialist" was VEHEMENTLY against the House of Lords, wanted it abolished but now she calls herself "Baroness Basildon"... "Ange of Vange" is more appropriate.

Makes me sick how these people are so holier than thou.. And let's face it, there has been a protracted hate campaign against the mayor, who does NOT claim endless expenses and in fact pays for stuff for her charities herself as she does with events, paying for her own tickets, her own driver and all associated expenses yet she gets a slagging off and her personal life publicly ripped to shreds.

And before the usual haters start, no I am NOT a Tory nor have any intentions of joining any political party having MADE THE DECISION MYSELF not to renew my membership of UKIP and resigned from the English Democrats (I NEVER held membership of BNP and EDL and this can be PROVED by those who prefer to find out the truth before spouting their gobs off). I have no personal agenda but I DETEST seeing others suffer the same cr@p I've had to endure at the hands of the professional haters of the Left who lie through their teeth for personal gain.

And who is behind the hate campaign, that's right, the hate filled lefties - the same ones that are always regurgitating old rubbish off the internet about me and I don't hold public office any more.

It's all wrong. It's about time the lid was taken off these people. I hate hypocrisy - and worst of all people who claim that the House of Lords should be abolished but then are quite happy to take £300 a day attendance fee from the public purse. And accept a "title".

Instead of victimising politicians who DO pay their own way, let the Echo and Jon Austin do an expose on ALL the local politicians who are helping themselves to copious quantities of our money. People who really ARE taking the p*ss, instead of "investigating" those who have paid their own way and wasting public money to do it.

It's all wrong in this country, those who speak the truth are victimised and pilloried whilst the liars and hypocrites are revered - shows how idiotic and gullible people are.
Nice rant.
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Discouraged[/bold] wrote: Angela smith is also making thousands a month from the House of Lords.[/p][/quote]....and she is the one sitting in judgement on others. She has a fine need to talk. Let's face it, this "socialist" was VEHEMENTLY against the House of Lords, wanted it abolished but now she calls herself "Baroness Basildon"... "Ange of Vange" is more appropriate. Makes me sick how these people are so holier than thou.. And let's face it, there has been a protracted hate campaign against the mayor, who does NOT claim endless expenses and in fact pays for stuff for her charities herself as she does with events, paying for her own tickets, her own driver and all associated expenses yet she gets a slagging off and her personal life publicly ripped to shreds. And before the usual haters start, no I am NOT a Tory nor have any intentions of joining any political party having MADE THE DECISION MYSELF not to renew my membership of UKIP and resigned from the English Democrats (I NEVER held membership of BNP and EDL and this can be PROVED by those who prefer to find out the truth before spouting their gobs off). I have no personal agenda but I DETEST seeing others suffer the same cr@p I've had to endure at the hands of the professional haters of the Left who lie through their teeth for personal gain. And who is behind the hate campaign, that's right, the hate filled lefties - the same ones that are always regurgitating old rubbish off the internet about me and I don't hold public office any more. It's all wrong. It's about time the lid was taken off these people. I hate hypocrisy - and worst of all people who claim that the House of Lords should be abolished but then are quite happy to take £300 a day attendance fee from the public purse. And accept a "title". Instead of victimising politicians who DO pay their own way, let the Echo and Jon Austin do an expose on ALL the local politicians who are helping themselves to copious quantities of our money. People who really ARE taking the p*ss, instead of "investigating" those who have paid their own way and wasting public money to do it. It's all wrong in this country, those who speak the truth are victimised and pilloried whilst the liars and hypocrites are revered - shows how idiotic and gullible people are.[/p][/quote]Nice rant. Ritchie_Hicks

10:23am Tue 17 Dec 13

stevedawson says...

That is the world we live in.mr.white should no longer be a peer.while he is he has his entitlments.gauling isnt it.
That is the world we live in.mr.white should no longer be a peer.while he is he has his entitlments.gauling isnt it. stevedawson

10:25am Tue 17 Dec 13

Dengie D says...

And greedy self servers like this are the reason why most people have lost interest in politics.
And greedy self servers like this are the reason why most people have lost interest in politics. Dengie D

10:29am Tue 17 Dec 13

totallyfootball says...

Kick them all out and put this rancid individual back where he belongs, in jail.
Kick them all out and put this rancid individual back where he belongs, in jail. totallyfootball

12:27pm Tue 17 Dec 13

wormshero says...

He continues to show why the House Of Lords is just a sham. It scares me slightly that laws have to be approved by these people when quite honestly I wouldn't trust this man unsupervised in my house, let alone at a point of any authority.
He continues to show why the House Of Lords is just a sham. It scares me slightly that laws have to be approved by these people when quite honestly I wouldn't trust this man unsupervised in my house, let alone at a point of any authority. wormshero

12:51pm Tue 17 Dec 13

Catchedicam says...

Benefits scrounger.. GET A JOB!!
Benefits scrounger.. GET A JOB!! Catchedicam

1:00pm Tue 17 Dec 13

beaulocks says...

He's a legend

In his position you wouldn't think he would try and gain 10p out the system for fear of it coming out. He's mustard when he's interviewed, he genuinely feels he has done nothing wrong.

He deserves this money lol.
He's a legend In his position you wouldn't think he would try and gain 10p out the system for fear of it coming out. He's mustard when he's interviewed, he genuinely feels he has done nothing wrong. He deserves this money lol. beaulocks

1:08pm Tue 17 Dec 13

beaulocks says...

Catchedicam wrote:
Benefits scrounger.. GET A JOB!!
Why would he get a job?

Would you pay him a salary higher than he's getting for an hour day?

Thought not, personally I think the guy is a legend. Possibly the best actor I have seen, he should be commended for his performance as A man that's being harrased.
[quote][p][bold]Catchedicam[/bold] wrote: Benefits scrounger.. GET A JOB!![/p][/quote]Why would he get a job? Would you pay him a salary higher than he's getting for an hour day? Thought not, personally I think the guy is a legend. Possibly the best actor I have seen, he should be commended for his performance as A man that's being harrased. beaulocks

1:44pm Tue 17 Dec 13

Catchedicam says...

beaulocks wrote:
Catchedicam wrote:
Benefits scrounger.. GET A JOB!!
Why would he get a job?

Would you pay him a salary higher than he's getting for an hour day?

Thought not, personally I think the guy is a legend. Possibly the best actor I have seen, he should be commended for his performance as A man that's being harrased.
Because I am sick of paying for scum like him out of my taxes, whilst those of his ilk are destroying the lives and dignity of ordinary people with measures like the bedroom tax.

If he had to get a job, pay his way, and understand what the ordinary working man/woman has to do to make ends meet, then maybe, just maybe he would not present his, frankly odious, views that he is 'entitled' to claim £6000 per month plus travelling and lunch expenses to do nothing whatsoever. If you wish to pay his benefits then please feel free to do so, just don't expect me to help.
[quote][p][bold]beaulocks[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Catchedicam[/bold] wrote: Benefits scrounger.. GET A JOB!![/p][/quote]Why would he get a job? Would you pay him a salary higher than he's getting for an hour day? Thought not, personally I think the guy is a legend. Possibly the best actor I have seen, he should be commended for his performance as A man that's being harrased.[/p][/quote]Because I am sick of paying for scum like him out of my taxes, whilst those of his ilk are destroying the lives and dignity of ordinary people with measures like the bedroom tax. If he had to get a job, pay his way, and understand what the ordinary working man/woman has to do to make ends meet, then maybe, just maybe he would not present his, frankly odious, views that he is 'entitled' to claim £6000 per month plus travelling and lunch expenses to do nothing whatsoever. If you wish to pay his benefits then please feel free to do so, just don't expect me to help. Catchedicam

4:47pm Tue 17 Dec 13

jolllyboy says...

So thats how he is funding paying back the £28 grand he was on trial for .
We know that politicians do this pop in pop out and so they should be paid a set salary and no expenses. Does he get extra for his office in Millbank when he can use the Lords ?
So thats how he is funding paying back the £28 grand he was on trial for . We know that politicians do this pop in pop out and so they should be paid a set salary and no expenses. Does he get extra for his office in Millbank when he can use the Lords ? jolllyboy

5:35pm Tue 17 Dec 13

Say It As It Is OK? says...

Interesting to note my post was removed just because I called Paul White a scrounger. The truth obviously hurts!
Interesting to note my post was removed just because I called Paul White a scrounger. The truth obviously hurts! Say It As It Is OK?

5:37pm Tue 17 Dec 13

GillyL-C says...

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6:07pm Tue 17 Dec 13

John T Pharro says...

Anyone with a criminal record especially if it results in a gaol sentence like this man should be debarred from holding public office. This man portrays himself as a pillar of society and yet despite his gaol sentence he still votes on our laws. Unacceptable.
Anyone with a criminal record especially if it results in a gaol sentence like this man should be debarred from holding public office. This man portrays himself as a pillar of society and yet despite his gaol sentence he still votes on our laws. Unacceptable. John T Pharro

6:33pm Tue 17 Dec 13

Ed Woods says...

Having watched his interview in the news all I can say is what an arrogant c*** he is. Unlike our MPs who we can vote out we are stuck by this scumbag.
Having watched his interview in the news all I can say is what an arrogant c*** he is. Unlike our MPs who we can vote out we are stuck by this scumbag. Ed Woods

6:37pm Tue 17 Dec 13

Ed Woods says...

According to 'They work for you' He has spoken in 0 debates in the House of Lords in the last year. Has asked 4 written questions and only voted in 27.17% of votes.

http://www.theyworkf
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According to 'They work for you' He has spoken in 0 debates in the House of Lords in the last year. Has asked 4 written questions and only voted in 27.17% of votes. http://www.theyworkf oryou.com/peer/13139 /lord_hanningfield Ed Woods

7:29pm Tue 17 Dec 13

Nowthatsworthknowing says...

Six Grand in a month for just attending, who#s the fool???
Six Grand in a month for just attending, who#s the fool??? Nowthatsworthknowing

8:37pm Tue 17 Dec 13

Spyglass says...

Discouraged wrote:
Angela smith is also making thousands a month from the House of Lords.
Is there any proof of this?
[quote][p][bold]Discouraged[/bold] wrote: Angela smith is also making thousands a month from the House of Lords.[/p][/quote]Is there any proof of this? Spyglass

8:40pm Tue 17 Dec 13

beaulocks says...

Catchedicam wrote:
beaulocks wrote:
Catchedicam wrote:
Benefits scrounger.. GET A JOB!!
Why would he get a job?

Would you pay him a salary higher than he's getting for an hour day?

Thought not, personally I think the guy is a legend. Possibly the best actor I have seen, he should be commended for his performance as A man that's being harrased.
Because I am sick of paying for scum like him out of my taxes, whilst those of his ilk are destroying the lives and dignity of ordinary people with measures like the bedroom tax.

If he had to get a job, pay his way, and understand what the ordinary working man/woman has to do to make ends meet, then maybe, just maybe he would not present his, frankly odious, views that he is 'entitled' to claim £6000 per month plus travelling and lunch expenses to do nothing whatsoever. If you wish to pay his benefits then please feel free to do so, just don't expect me to help.
No I wouldn't give him a job let alone the salary and expenses the old slippery skank gets.

Exactly, he's a legend.

Be honest, have you ever met anyone so brazen and thick skinned as our Paul.

He has done niche for anyone all his life but been paid very handsomely by the taxpayer.

An absolute legend in the world of frauds and slippery skanks.
[quote][p][bold]Catchedicam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]beaulocks[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Catchedicam[/bold] wrote: Benefits scrounger.. GET A JOB!![/p][/quote]Why would he get a job? Would you pay him a salary higher than he's getting for an hour day? Thought not, personally I think the guy is a legend. Possibly the best actor I have seen, he should be commended for his performance as A man that's being harrased.[/p][/quote]Because I am sick of paying for scum like him out of my taxes, whilst those of his ilk are destroying the lives and dignity of ordinary people with measures like the bedroom tax. If he had to get a job, pay his way, and understand what the ordinary working man/woman has to do to make ends meet, then maybe, just maybe he would not present his, frankly odious, views that he is 'entitled' to claim £6000 per month plus travelling and lunch expenses to do nothing whatsoever. If you wish to pay his benefits then please feel free to do so, just don't expect me to help.[/p][/quote]No I wouldn't give him a job let alone the salary and expenses the old slippery skank gets. Exactly, he's a legend. Be honest, have you ever met anyone so brazen and thick skinned as our Paul. He has done niche for anyone all his life but been paid very handsomely by the taxpayer. An absolute legend in the world of frauds and slippery skanks. beaulocks

9:00pm Tue 17 Dec 13

robb789 says...

One disgusting greedy little man who thinks he deserves this money - an embarrassment to Essex and this country as a whole!! Should have been thrown out of the Lords straight after his conviction.
One disgusting greedy little man who thinks he deserves this money - an embarrassment to Essex and this country as a whole!! Should have been thrown out of the Lords straight after his conviction. robb789

9:46pm Tue 17 Dec 13

Hamiltonandy says...

On the news I heard the House of Lords may change the rules to exclude this "honourable" lord. Clearly he feels no shame and stated "we should be grateful to him".
On the news I heard the House of Lords may change the rules to exclude this "honourable" lord. Clearly he feels no shame and stated "we should be grateful to him". Hamiltonandy

9:54pm Tue 17 Dec 13

Discouraged says...

Any decent MP should be angry at what is going on in the Lords but John Baron was supposed to have claimed £87.000 he wasn't supposed to, and then gave £60.000 to charity How is that right? Amess was claiming a fortune for food and Smith, Amess and Baron claimed for second homes despite London being a reasonable commute, How on earth can anyone have faith in our institutions when we are being robbed, and people like this plus administrators at failing hospitals and chief executives at essex county council are bleeding this country dry.
Any decent MP should be angry at what is going on in the Lords but John Baron was supposed to have claimed £87.000 he wasn't supposed to, and then gave £60.000 to charity How is that right? Amess was claiming a fortune for food and Smith, Amess and Baron claimed for second homes despite London being a reasonable commute, How on earth can anyone have faith in our institutions when we are being robbed, and people like this plus administrators at failing hospitals and chief executives at essex county council are bleeding this country dry. Discouraged

10:24pm Tue 17 Dec 13

There Abouts says...

"There are currently 779 peers, or members of the unelected House of Lords. They serve for life... £300 daily attendance plus travel costs..."

Unelected, serve for life and good dosh, nice work if you can get it.
"There are currently 779 peers, or members of the unelected House of Lords. They serve for life... £300 daily attendance plus travel costs..." Unelected, serve for life and good dosh, nice work if you can get it. There Abouts

10:50pm Tue 17 Dec 13

William George says...

Hamiltonandy wrote:
On the news I heard the House of Lords may change the rules to exclude this "honourable" lord. Clearly he feels no shame and stated "we should be grateful to him".
If government allows cut backs to be made. Then so should the government change the rules that will stop this man being allowed entry into the House of Lords ever again.
That issue to change these rules should have been made earlier when this man was convicted, but can still be changed to avoid some of the continued costs this man is causing.
[quote][p][bold]Hamiltonandy[/bold] wrote: On the news I heard the House of Lords may change the rules to exclude this "honourable" lord. Clearly he feels no shame and stated "we should be grateful to him".[/p][/quote]If government allows cut backs to be made. Then so should the government change the rules that will stop this man being allowed entry into the House of Lords ever again. That issue to change these rules should have been made earlier when this man was convicted, but can still be changed to avoid some of the continued costs this man is causing. William George

12:21pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Discouraged says...

Never Forget that John Baron claimed £87,000 he should not have and after selling a house gave £60.000 to a charity of his choice. How is that OK?
Never forget that Angela Smith claimed her council tax TWICE and £315 for a tv licence . now she gets thousands every month for 15 or so days work at the House of Lords.
Remember the tens of thousands David Amess claimed for food and remember that all three of these "honourable" people claimed for a second house/flat despite Westminster being a reasonable train journey that everyone else seems to be able to make.
Never Forget that John Baron claimed £87,000 he should not have and after selling a house gave £60.000 to a charity of his choice. How is that OK? Never forget that Angela Smith claimed her council tax TWICE and £315 for a tv licence . now she gets thousands every month for 15 or so days work at the House of Lords. Remember the tens of thousands David Amess claimed for food and remember that all three of these "honourable" people claimed for a second house/flat despite Westminster being a reasonable train journey that everyone else seems to be able to make. Discouraged

4:11am Thu 19 Dec 13

Spyglass says...

Discouraged wrote:
Never Forget that John Baron claimed £87,000 he should not have and after selling a house gave £60.000 to a charity of his choice. How is that OK?
Never forget that Angela Smith claimed her council tax TWICE and £315 for a tv licence . now she gets thousands every month for 15 or so days work at the House of Lords.
Remember the tens of thousands David Amess claimed for food and remember that all three of these "honourable" people claimed for a second house/flat despite Westminster being a reasonable train journey that everyone else seems to be able to make.
I seem to remember Rebecca Harris fiddling expense somehow, but for the life of me I can't remember what
[quote][p][bold]Discouraged[/bold] wrote: Never Forget that John Baron claimed £87,000 he should not have and after selling a house gave £60.000 to a charity of his choice. How is that OK? Never forget that Angela Smith claimed her council tax TWICE and £315 for a tv licence . now she gets thousands every month for 15 or so days work at the House of Lords. Remember the tens of thousands David Amess claimed for food and remember that all three of these "honourable" people claimed for a second house/flat despite Westminster being a reasonable train journey that everyone else seems to be able to make.[/p][/quote]I seem to remember Rebecca Harris fiddling expense somehow, but for the life of me I can't remember what Spyglass

11:45am Fri 20 Dec 13

snorters2 says...

15 letters a day? Probably all hate mail.
15 letters a day? Probably all hate mail. snorters2

7:51am Sat 21 Dec 13

Ed Woods says...

Discouraged wrote:
Never Forget that John Baron claimed £87,000 he should not have and after selling a house gave £60.000 to a charity of his choice. How is that OK?
Never forget that Angela Smith claimed her council tax TWICE and £315 for a tv licence . now she gets thousands every month for 15 or so days work at the House of Lords.
Remember the tens of thousands David Amess claimed for food and remember that all three of these "honourable" people claimed for a second house/flat despite Westminster being a reasonable train journey that everyone else seems to be able to make.
She had a joint mortgage on her second home with her husband but instead of just claiming 50% of the mortgage she claimed 100%. The rules also allow he to keep the taxpayer purchased London property and the profit when she sells it - so quids in for Angela Smith. As a reward for being Gordon Browns flunky she was elevated to the House of Lords where the taxpayer funded lifestyle can continue.
[quote][p][bold]Discouraged[/bold] wrote: Never Forget that John Baron claimed £87,000 he should not have and after selling a house gave £60.000 to a charity of his choice. How is that OK? Never forget that Angela Smith claimed her council tax TWICE and £315 for a tv licence . now she gets thousands every month for 15 or so days work at the House of Lords. Remember the tens of thousands David Amess claimed for food and remember that all three of these "honourable" people claimed for a second house/flat despite Westminster being a reasonable train journey that everyone else seems to be able to make.[/p][/quote]She had a joint mortgage on her second home with her husband but instead of just claiming 50% of the mortgage she claimed 100%. The rules also allow he to keep the taxpayer purchased London property and the profit when she sells it - so quids in for Angela Smith. As a reward for being Gordon Browns flunky she was elevated to the House of Lords where the taxpayer funded lifestyle can continue. Ed Woods

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